Today, the Washington Post published statements posted on al-Hesbah, an extremist website with ties to al Qaeda, which declared the terrorist group “will have to support McCain in the coming election.” The site said if al Qaeda wants to exhaust the United States militarily and economically, “impetuous” McCain is the better choice because he is more likely to continue the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.
The McCain campaign swiftly disavowed the statements, arranging a conference call with top national security advisers Randy Scheunemann and James Woolsey. Woolsey declared that the post was not an endorsement but was in fact clearly intended to boost McCain’s opponent, by providing a “kiss of death” to McCain’s campaign:
WOOLSEY: This individual knows that the endorsement of people like him is a kiss of death, figuratively and literally. So it seems to me it’s pretty clear that, by making this statement, that he wants — it would be a good thing for McCain to be president, he’s clearly trying to damage John McCain, not speaking from his heart.
However, just minutes earlier in the call, Scheunemann went through a laundry list of “bad guys” who support Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL), cited dubious quotes from Hamas, Iranian President Ahmadinejad, and Muammar al-Gaddafi of Libya. In fact, the McCain campaign pounced on Hamas’s endorsement of Obama in March. “If Senator Obama is favored by Hamas, I think people can make judgments accordingly,” McCain declared ominously.
When a reporter pointed out the contradiction, Woolsey replied that the difference was that McCain’s endorsement came from “simply an individual blogger,” saying that this extremist’s true concern about a McCain presidency “seems very clear to me, frankly.” So when a terrorist supports McCain, it’s a head fake, but when one supports Obama it’s a legitimate issue voters should “make judgments” on?
Babbling lying smearing erratic senile old McCain is the kiss of death for McCain. Palin and her $150,000 wardrobe, thoughtfully donated by the Republican National Committee, are the kisses of death for McCain. RIP, GOP.
October 22nd, 2008 at 3:48 pmal qaeda knows they’re losing their best friend when dummya loses his job. of course they’d want mcsame to take over.
October 22nd, 2008 at 3:50 pmNot to mention that neither Hamas nor Ahmedinajad has endorsed Obama. I’m pretty sure both have gone on record saying that neither major-party candidate would be very good or the Palestinian people.
October 22nd, 2008 at 3:54 pmIt is so apparent that Obama had his terrorist buddies release this message. He is on the ropes because he bombed the Pentagon with Ayers and Oklahoma with the uni-bomber.
October 22nd, 2008 at 3:54 pmAl queda surely would prefer a leader who represents the party who are incompetant, arrogant, and cowards when it comes to fighting against them. If McBush wins, they win 4 more years of freedom.
October 22nd, 2008 at 3:55 pmPalin already delivered the “kiss of death” to the McCain campaign.
October 22nd, 2008 at 3:55 pmDoes Woosely know this guy? He is talking like he has a relationship with him, he knows his motivations “clearly?”
October 22nd, 2008 at 3:56 pmMCain; Air-pirate, war criminal, and friend to terrorists. Just ask G. Gordon Liddy and Osama Been Forgotten.
October 22nd, 2008 at 3:56 pmI suppose we should expect a remark like this from the McCain camp, but expecting it doesn’t diminish the fact that they look pretty stupid for their comments about Obama a few months ago. Then again, it doesn’t take too much to make the McCain camp look stupid these days — and most of it is their own doing. Their lies and mischaracterizations are well known now for the chicanery that they are.
October 22nd, 2008 at 3:57 pmMcCain is no military leader at all. His simplistic views
on what was going to happen in Iraq pre-war were flat
out wrong. Example: JM “Because I know that as successful as I believe we will be, and I believe that the success will be fairly easy, we will still lose some American young men or women.” [CNN, 9/24/02]
Also: On November 29, 2002 on CNN’s Late Edition, Sen. McCain said, “We’re not going to get into house-to-house fighting in Baghdad.
Obama on the otherhand 6 years ago had a far bettr grasp of
October 22nd, 2008 at 4:01 pmwhat would happen.
“But I also know that Saddam poses no imminent and direct threat to the United States, or to his neighbors, that the Iraqi economy is in shambles, that the Iraqi military a fraction of its former strength, and that in concert with the international community he can be contained until, in the way of all petty dictators, he falls away into the dustbin of history. “I know that even a successful war against Iraq will require a U.S. occupation of undetermined length, at undetermined cost, with undetermined consequences. I know that an invasion of Iraq without a clear rationale and without strong international support will only fan the flames of the Middle East, and encourage the worst, rather than best, impulses of the Arab world, and strengthen the recruitment arm of Al-Qaeda.”
The speech:http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Barack_Obama’s_Iraq_Speech
To keep the Bush/Cheney policy going McCain will do anything to keep the Republicans in office. Look we have seen how far the Bush Adminstration has taken us since 2000 and McCain/Palin want to continue. Obama will win because all people are tired of the lies that are being told. McCain allowed Bush to rip his Family apart and choose Republicans over his daughter. What Father wouldn’t fight like hell for their child. Now McCain is using the same people to attack Obama. All this as we see the Stock Market with Americans life savings going fast and people don’t want to hear about this tick for tack we want to know how you will get us out of this mess.
October 22nd, 2008 at 4:01 pmanyone who wants a perpetuation of uneccesary violence and death should support john mccain and sarah “end times” palin.
ps. bin laden agrees with john mccain that taxes are too high in this country…
October 22nd, 2008 at 4:02 pmSick to death watching the terrorist card being played, when in reality it is US who are viewed as the real terrorists of the world.
October 22nd, 2008 at 4:04 pmWaitaminnit — “when a reporter pointed out the contradiction”???
You mean there are reporters out there who are pointing out obvious absurdities instead of just mindlessly sucking up whatever they’re told and reporting it?
There’s hope.
October 22nd, 2008 at 4:06 pmA couple of key differences:
1) the people that Woolsey referred to are actually leaders of countries/areas that are legitimate “targets” for improved diplomatic relationships; the endorsement of McCain comes from pure terrorists interested in damaging the U.S.
2) the “endorsements” of Obama have been made in an open fashion through media; the al Qaeda support for McCain was found written in Arabic on a password-protected website (hardly directed at an American audience as a “head fake”).
McNumbNuts and Woolsey aren’t fooling anyone with their desperate press conference. Any American who has watched the folly of the past eight years knows that the terrorists are very interested in seeing to it that GDumbya is replaced with an unstable, erratic, senile old fool like McNumbNuts.
October 22nd, 2008 at 4:07 pmElect McIIIrd Head Fake. Seems fitting.
Obama for President!
October 22nd, 2008 at 4:08 pmMy latest human intel alerts me to the fact that Bill Ayers hasn’t endorsed Obama. Hmmm. Lying? Senile? Both?
October 22nd, 2008 at 4:12 pmWhat are al Qaedas main selling points and arguments to fight Americans? American meddling in Middle East affairs, military presence in particular. First American bases in Saudi Arabia now Iraq. So naturally they want hothead McCain to become President who they’ve fooled to think Iraq is the main front in “the war”
October 22nd, 2008 at 4:16 pmSo AlQuaeda wants McDrain to win…does that makes McCain a terrorist sympathizer?????
October 22nd, 2008 at 4:22 pmlimited hangout
October 22nd, 2008 at 4:30 pmI have to disagree here.
Historically speaking AlQ has endorsed democratic candidates and this election isn’t really any different except they finally realize that when they attempt to ‘endorse’ a candidate, it looks extremely bad. I mean, duh, right?
It sounds silly to say that they’d be playing head games but its probably true. The spokesmen for the group are well aware of the ‘terrorist’ bullshit charges that are being tossed in Obama’s direction and this is an attempt to walk that back a little and yet still do their best to think of themselves as politically relevant in the US.
Their interests, either way, are tough to understand but if the base motive (minus the violence) is “West out of the Mid-East”, which is also the Leftist view, and my own, then sure, a Democrat is a better idea.
In my view this is clearly a fake-out, strange as it might seem.
October 22nd, 2008 at 4:35 pmRick?
You’re an idiot. Spare us the crap, please. We don’t drink the kool-aid here.
And – we also know damn good and well which candidate would be MUCH better for Al Qaeda; after all, GeeDumbya has been OBL’s wet, wet dream when it came to recruiting new members, right?
Why shouldn’t they want McBUSH?
October 22nd, 2008 at 4:41 pmI knew they’d instantly be pulling out the “it’s reverse psychology!!” argument the second I heard about the original comment.
If they are playing head games, you can’t claim it only for one party and not the other.
October 22nd, 2008 at 4:45 pmExcuse me, but the so-called endorsement of Obama by Hamas was just one guy who was not speaking for Hamas. So, how is this different again?
October 22nd, 2008 at 4:49 pmOK I get it now. If the whole organisation endorses you then it is important. But if just certain members are endorsing it doesn’t count. So it really wouldn’t count if say just Osama Bin Laden, and not all of Al-Qaeda, came out and endorsed John McCain right?
I guess it really doesn’t matter that HAMAS attacks Israel but Al-Qaeda attacks America! Which group is the real threat to America. I mean besides neocons!
October 22nd, 2008 at 4:53 pm#wearechange Says:
limited hangout
Interesting link. It’s also interesting that the US has never charged Osama with any crime relating to 911. He is on the most wanted list, I think, because of his involvement in the Cole bombing.
Wouldn’t it be amazing to find out that the boogey man wasn’t really the boogey man after all?
October 22nd, 2008 at 4:58 pmI personally don’t give a DAMN what al Qaeda says, but it’s no secret that they want to break us the same way they broke the Soviets (with our help) in Afghanistan.
That’s why they attacked us on 9/11. The wanted to provoke a stupid response.
Unfortunately, we had a cowboy/chimp in the White House who swallowed the bait hook, line and sinker. Not only did the morons in the Chimp administration do al Qaeda’s bidding by taking out their old enemy, Saddam, but they also wanted to expand the war to take on al Qaeda’s other enemy in the region: Shia Iran. Double plus good for al Qaeda, not so good for us.
Now, thanks to Smirky the Chimp’s brilliant “war on terra,” the US is broke and our economy is in the toilet, our armed forces are over-stretched, and al Qaeda (via the Taliban) is once again breaking bad in Afghanistan. It looks like we’ve got them right where they want us.
Let al Qaeda endorse McSame because he will continue Smirky the Chimp’s disastrous policies in Iraq. Screw them!! Who cares? We need to elect a president who’s too smart to play their game.
October 22nd, 2008 at 5:06 pmrickregen Says:
“In my view this is clearly a fake-out, strange as it might seem.”
Do you also think that was the case for the Hamas endorsement of Obama? Why do you think Hamas would bother endorsing any American politician given their long history of terrorist attacks on Israel? Do you think there is a difference between an endorsement from an anti American group as opposed to an anti Isreali group with regards to the US Presidential elections?
October 22nd, 2008 at 5:24 pmI am a white, heterosexual, married with 3 kids, roman catholic, conservative and I endorse Barack Obama.
Any Republicans want to venture a guess why I do? Remember I am NOT Republican, so I cannot be RINO, although I am conservative. Due to that conservatism, I cannot possibly be a liberal or a Democrat.
So those answers are already taken!
October 22nd, 2008 at 5:42 pmWhy are conservatives even arguing about this? Our own CIA reported that it was clear that Bin Laden’s taped message 1 week before the 2004 election was designed to help Bush win reelection.
His policies (and, by extension, McCain’s) have led to an unprecidented surge in al Qaeda recruitment and a complete destablization of the Middle East. Both our CIA and our State Department have reported that there are more terrorists and terrorist attacks today than before the 9-11 attack so Bush/McCain style foreign policy is, by definition, better for terrorists.
October 22nd, 2008 at 6:15 pmThis should be very easy for everyone. You ignore what terrorists have to say on these matters, always. Screw them. They are terrorists.
October 22nd, 2008 at 6:32 pmThis is not the first time we heard this. The bankruptcy thing was supposedly said back in 2004 too. And of course, AQ cannot win USA militarily so they need to make sure “the great satan” (or whatever they call USA) uses massive amounts of resources and thus bleed sort of to death in this way. Nothing suprising about this nor about blowbacks. With operation cyclone Zbig + Carter made sure that the Soviets had their own ‘Nam in Afghanistan in the late 70’s and also during the 80’s. It contributed to the downfall of the Soviet Union. So of course AQ would want to use the same tactic. They need US presence in the middle-east so that a “holy war” is an easier sell.
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A new study from the RAND Corporation examined how 648 terror groups around the world ended between 1968 and 2006. It found that by far the most common way for them to disappear was to be absorbed by the political process. The second most common way was to be defeated by police work. In contrast, in only 7 percent of cases did military force destroy the terrorist group.
“There is no battlefield solution to terrorism,” the report declares. “Military force usually has the opposite effect from what is intended.”
October 22nd, 2008 at 8:11 pmhttp://crooksandliars.com/2008/08/11/make-diplomacy-not-war/
I rebuke ALL of McCain’s, Palin’s, and ALL of their supporters evil actions against Obama-Biden ticket in the name and blood of Jesus. I send all of them back to the pit of hell where they come from, and I cover Obama-Biden in the blood of Jesus – Sen. Obama’s Lord and Savior.
Sen. Obama will be vindicated- his National numbers will increase. As a result Sen. Obama’s State-to-State votes will increase. As a result Sen. Obama’s fundraising numbers will increase. As a result Sen. Obama will be elected president on Nov. 4, 2008. As a result Sen. Obama will be blessed in every area of his life.
I [God ] will bless those who bless you [ Barack Obama], and whoever curses you [ Barack Obama], I [God] will curse; and all peoples on earth will be blessed through you [ Barack Obama].” – Genesis 12:3
Additionally, not any of McCain-Palin’s WEAK campaign and personal attacks of lies, hatred, fear, racism, and division WILL NEVER PREVAIL against Sen. Obama – this nation’s next Commander-in-Chief !!!
You [ Barack Obama], are from God and have overcome them [the enemy's attacks, schemes, and plots ] , because the one [God] who is in you [ Barack Obama] is greater than the one [the enemy ] who is in the world. – 1 John 4:4
No weapon forged against you [ Barack Obama] will prevail, and you [ Barack Obama] will refute every tongue that accuses you [ Barack Obama] . This is the heritage of the servants [ Barack Obama] of the LORD, and this is their [ Barack Obama] vindication from me,” declares the LORD. – Isaiah 54:17
” I [ God ] will send my terror ahead of you [ Barack Obama] and throw into confusion every nation you [ Barack Obama] encounter. I [ God ] will make all your [ Barack Obama] enemies turn their backs and run.” – Exodus 23:27
The Lord will rescue me [ Barack Obama] from every evil attack and will bring me [ Barack Obama] safely to his heavenly kingdom. – 2 Timothy 4:18
11 For he will command his angels concerning you [ Barack Obama] to guard you [ Barack Obama ] in all your ways; 12 they will lift you [ Barack Obama ] up in their hands, so that you [ Barack Obama ] will not strike your [his] foot against a stone. 13 You [ Barack Obama ] will tread upon the lion and the cobra; you [ Barack Obama ] will trample the great lion and the serpent. – Psalm 91:11-13
I have given you [ Barack Obama ] authority to trample on snakes and scorpions and to overcome all the power of the enemy; nothing will harm you [ Barack Obama ]. – Luke 10:19
It’s time for the American people to get it right and NOT vote for McCain-Palin, instead vote for change. It’s time for this country to turn the page and seek a new and better future for ourselves and our children.It’s time for REAL change in Washington, it’s time to elect Barack Obama for president !
Obama-Biden are the wiser and stronger team to solve the crucial challenges we have in this nation and abroad !
Amen.
October 22nd, 2008 at 9:05 pmrickregen,
Good for you. A very astute observation. Pay no attention to the mindless droids here.
You and I are likely not on the same page politically, but I give credit where it’s due.
A lot of the posts I read here indicate to me that the people who
October 22nd, 2008 at 9:10 pm#44
You will make a GREAT brown-shirt in Obama’s new army!
October 22nd, 2008 at 9:15 pmCorrection – #34
October 22nd, 2008 at 9:16 pm.
Dear GOP,
What does it mean when al-CIA-duh endorses your candidate?
America
XoXo
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October 23rd, 2008 at 1:10 am.
Dear TimTroll,
Got incoherent sentence structures?
Aren’t the Malkinites missing a member?
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October 23rd, 2008 at 1:17 amWoolsey: another whore for the Messopotamia
October 23rd, 2008 at 2:22 am>You will make a GREAT brown-shirt in Obama’s new army!
wow, having your nutbag friends make false flag posts and then blame us. clever, idjit…
lets see…the occupation of iraq, pictures from abu gharib, pictures of dead muslim women and children all over the television killed by american bombs (which you’d see if you ever watched any news which doesnt originate outside our borders)…these are all terrible recruiting tools for al-queeda, right fella?
also,
October 23rd, 2008 at 8:15 amdo you agree with bin laden that taxes are too high in this country?
I haven’t read every comment yet, so forgive me if the obvious question has already been asked.
How, exactly, are these terrorists going to support McCain?
Donations? Letters to the editor? McCain T-shirts? Blowing up something? Maybe they’ll make phone calls to get out the vote. Or maybe they’ll hijack a plane or take some hostages. Think maybe they’ll buy some TV advertizing time?
I don’t get it.
October 23rd, 2008 at 5:41 pmYou will make a GREAT brown-shirt in Obama’s new army!
October 23rd, 2008 at 11:58 pm-Tim Vaculik
You’re sounding a little shrill and very much panties wrapped around the sack-ish. Great projection, though; the chosen defense mechanism of the psychopath and the paranoid.