The North Carolina Republican State Executive Committee has sent out homophobic mailers targeting Senate candidate Kay Hagan (D), who is challenging Sen. Elizabeth Dole (R). The mailings warn that Hagan seeks to advance a “radical homosexual agenda” that includes legalizing gay marriage, removing “Under God” from the Pledge of Allegiance, and forcing the Boy Scouts to accept gay and atheist troop leaders.

Yglesias wonders how these priorities represent a “radical homosexual agenda”: “What, exactly, is the gay interest in removing ‘under God’ from the Pledge of Allegiance?”
Slander worthy of a lawsuit?
October 23rd, 2008 at 1:38 pmThere is no “gay” interest in removing “under God” from the Pledge of Allegience.
It was the conservative’s that altered the original Pledge to INJECT religion into patriotism.
Marriage equality is pro-American.
October 23rd, 2008 at 1:39 pmBecause we all know that when your job is in danger, your house in foreclosure and the country is flat broke from giving the candy store to Bush cronies the biggest issue on every voter’s mind is to keep a couple of dudes from kissing. Jeebus, the Republican Party truly is dead from the neck up.
October 23rd, 2008 at 1:40 pmOld lady Dole is in big trouble and will say anything now. To bad Bob Dole is busy looking for Britney to help his wife.
October 23rd, 2008 at 1:41 pmBlame it on Bob’s viaga pills for not helping Lizzie.
I’ve said this before and, regretfully, I’ll probably say this again. I married my high school sweetheart in 1978. If gay marriage had been legal in 1978, I’d have married my high school sweetheart. If I hadn’t married her and gay marriage was legal now, I’d probably seek her out and marry her again. Marrriage is supposed to be about love and, as the song says, the heart calls and the mind obeys.
October 23rd, 2008 at 1:43 pmNorth Carolina Republicans send out homophobic mailings against Democratic Senate candidate Kay Hagan.»
– – Two homes in my LA neighborhood have “Yes On Prop 8″ signs near the curb. On my way to the gym at 4:45 this morning I brought my large black permanent marker and magically transformed the “Yes” to a “NO.”
I’m SO ashamed. No, really.
October 23rd, 2008 at 1:44 pm“What, exactly, is the gay interest in removing ‘under God’ from the Pledge of Allegiance?”
Could it be breaking the stranglehold that many theocrats have on our government? So-called “religious” conservatives have stood in the way of every movement for social progress in the history of this country.
Quite frankly, adorning our currency and public buildings with “In God We Trust” is blasphemy. No self-respecting monotheist would ever have done such a thing. Besides, if it were really important then it would have been on our currency from the beginning; it wasn’t. If it were really important, it would have been in the Pledge from the beginning, but it wasn’t.
The addition of the words “In God We Trust” was part of the Cold War hysteria that gripped Americans for generations. It should be removed from all US currency and from any public building, anywhere that it appears.
I don’t need for the government to believe in God nor to try to carry out “God’s will” on my behalf. Jesus himself said to “render unto Caesar what is Caesar’s, and unto God what is God’s.” Seems pretty clear to me.
October 23rd, 2008 at 1:45 pmGO OBAMA!!!
October 23rd, 2008 at 1:45 pmThe scent of desperation. Dole has nothing left but smears and fear to throw into the campaign. I hope it backfires on her.
October 23rd, 2008 at 1:46 pmKeep up the gay bashing, anti-American, divise crap, repukes.
It shows your desperate sweat.
October 23rd, 2008 at 1:46 pmLT ~ I do wish Darlyy would show up, I need a piece of red meat to shred this morning..!
October 23rd, 2008 at 1:46 pmcue Daryll/RaptureReady/Tracy_5 in 3…2…1…
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again:
As long as there are no children or animals involved I couldn’t care less what two consenting adults do in the privacy of their bedroom, and no one else should either.
And the supplement to that:
Why shouldn’t gays be allowed to marry? Seriously, if they want it that bad let them be as miserable as the rest of the married world.
October 23rd, 2008 at 1:47 pmYglesias wonders how these priorities represent a “radical homosexual agenda”: “What, exactly, is the gay interest in removing ‘under God’ from the Pledge of Allegiance?”
Ummm, because the God-fearing Boy Scouts don’t let homos in and they also won’t let in atheists, who demand that “Under God” be removed from the Pledge of Allegiance that all good Cris’shuns who don’t know their Second Commandment (but do know their Second Amendment) should give to the flag of the Yoo Ess of Aye. And the friend of my enemy is also my enemy (never mind that “turn the other cheek” nonsense, that’s just lib’tard agit-prop), so they’re all the same: Godless Commies trying to put fluoride in our water and pollute our Preshuss Bodily Fluids. Or something like that; whatever works for simple minds….
Cheers,
October 23rd, 2008 at 1:49 pmDole is losing and Repugs are desperate.
They ran out of ideas decades ago. But they’ll never run out of sleaze…
October 23rd, 2008 at 1:50 pmPathetic….those darn “Anti-American” Republicans.
I guess they don’t want Republicans marrying other Republicans.
October 23rd, 2008 at 1:51 pmhttp://www.ncgop.org/contact.jsp
Here is where you can send an email to the disgusting republican party in NC.
October 23rd, 2008 at 1:53 pmDo it now!!!
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WHY DO REPUBLICANS HATE AMERICANS?
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October 23rd, 2008 at 1:55 pmLooks like Libby is getting thrown to the curb by all those ‘anti-amerrikan libruls’ that have moved into NC.
Couldn’t happen to a better person.
October 23rd, 2008 at 1:56 pmJust another example of what FDR said conservatives are. Men/women with two perfectly good legs that refuse to walk forward.
They are trying again to take us back in time, back to the fifties when racism and gay bashing was a sport.
We don’t want to go backwards anymore……!!!!
India just sent a spaceship to the moon for gods sake. This used to be our agenda….exploration and technological advances….it made us strong.
October 23rd, 2008 at 1:56 pmOK, why was I not cc’d on the amendment to the Radical Gay Agenda? Clearly, I have an outdated copy as mine contains no reference to removing “under God” from the Pledge of Allegiance – although the proposed ban on pleated pants is still firmly in place.
Seriously? This is their A-game? Most of teh gays I know consider themselves Christian – and not the contemporary bastardized, televangelizing, hypocritical flavor – but christian: leading good lives, holding down jobs, paying bills, contributing to the community, worshipping and building lives with the families they’ve chosen. Under God.
October 23rd, 2008 at 2:00 pmI think a lot of the Rethugs are purposely conflating and confusing ‘anti-American’ with ‘anti-Bush’.
¶ AIO
October 23rd, 2008 at 2:02 pmThis is strange. If i received this mailing, I would have the exact opposite reaction to what was intended.
I remember getting a call from then LT. Gov Healy when I lived in Massachusetts. It went on for 30 seconds about how the lies of her opponent were scandalous and how dare they make such insinuations! Then her robo-voice said, “The truth is, I’m against gay marriage.” I couldn’t believe how upset she had gotten because someone had the audacity to suggest that she was in favor of civil rights.
October 23rd, 2008 at 2:03 pmpaleolib Says:
Because we all know that when your job is in danger, your house in foreclosure and the country is flat broke from giving the candy store to Bush cronies the biggest issue on every voter’s mind is to keep a couple of dudes from kissing
Actually, according to the always entertaining Pat Robertson and CBN:
We can’t base our votes on the war, economy, etc. – we need to base our vote on God’s issues, like abortion.
October 23rd, 2008 at 2:03 pm
And, dude – it’s the Boy Scouts. Take a troop of boys and send them out into the woods for a week or two. Tell me there’s no experimentation.
As a former Boy Scout myself, I can tell you they weren’t doing such a good job of keeping out teh gays…
October 23rd, 2008 at 2:06 pmThe greatest danger facing someone when they’re are trying to rescue a drowning swimmer is that the drowning swimmer will panic and then push the rescuer under the water to try and save themselves, thus dooming them both.
Swimming = Politics
October 23rd, 2008 at 2:07 pm#20 – barracks9 Says:
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OK, why was I not cc’d on the amendment to the Radical Gay Agenda? Clearly, I have an outdated copy as mine contains no reference to removing “under God” from the Pledge of Allegiance – although the proposed ban on pleated pants is still firmly in place.
Seriously? This is their A-game? Most of teh gays I know consider themselves Christian – and not the contemporary bastardized, televangelizing, hypocritical flavor – but christian: leading good lives, holding down jobs, paying bills, contributing to the community, worshipping and building lives with the families they’ve chosen. Under God.
October 23rd, 2008 at 2:00 pm
The right-whiners are trying to mask the TRUE gay agenda: equal rights for all Americans!
How pernicious. ;-)
October 23rd, 2008 at 2:08 pmStupid Git Says:
I love the 700 Club. It’s almost as funny as the Daily Show.
Sure, but I find I have to drink a whole lot more to find the 700 Club funny that way.
October 23rd, 2008 at 2:08 pmI live in NC and this ad was sent to me. I laughed when I saw it. It was funny. Libby Dole is NOW trying to campaign. The race is tight and we will see how it plays out. I already voted!
Obama/Biden/Purdue/Hagan ‘08
October 23rd, 2008 at 2:14 pmSo that’s where the gay agenda can be found. I’ll have to let my son know.
October 23rd, 2008 at 2:14 pmThis may change a few votes — although I’m sure the vast majority of the homophobes here in this state have already decided to vote a straight GOP ticket.
But I don’t expect it to have a widespread impact. The undecided voters here are far more concerned about the economy, the shipping of manufacturing jobs overseas (many textile and furniture manufacturing plants hhere in NC have closed), and the safety of their loved ones overseas fighting our wars (did I mention that Ft. Bragg and Camp Lejeune are in our state, and we have a lot of military families?).
It’s a bit tough to get all worked up about a couple of guys getting married when one is worried about their own livelihood.
I predict the biggest ripple this will cause is the backlash against Dole and the GOP.
October 23rd, 2008 at 2:20 pmJesus said no such thing and you and your ignorant ilk seem not to understand the basics of human nature. Homosexuality has been around since the dawn of time and god made it so if you believe in god.
The terrorists are the gop and their ant-American bashing of democrats who disagree with them.
You might as well admit it daryll, America is moving forward without you. You will soon be the one in the closet. Bigotry and hatred of others will soon be seen(as it should) as bad if not illegal behavior.
sucks to be you.
October 23rd, 2008 at 2:44 pmRaptureReady Says:
Do you want your Boy Scout to believe that homosexual acts are normal?
Yes.
I know that Jesus’ word says that it is abnormal and an abomination to anything spiritual.
Bullshit. He said no such thing.
Therefore, it is imperative that Senator Dole retains her seat or North Carolina is completely gone.
I’m pretty sure that the state of North Carolina will continue to exist no matter who they have in the Senate.
They are already beginning to support someone who interacts with terrorists (Hussein).
October 23rd, 2008 at 2:36 pm
I’ll assume you’re referring to Senator Barack Hussein Obama here, and you’re lying. He does not interact with terrorists.
If you’re trying to fault him for interacting with someone who previously engaged in acts of terror, I’ll have to assume that you feel the same way about General Petraeus interacting with the former terrorists who are now part of the Sunni Awakening.
October 23rd, 2008 at 2:46 pmIt amazes me that some people would look at the picture of two people holding hands and get angry. If I saw that picture anywhere else I would assume it was a happy picture. That should be a happy moment for any two people.
I just feel bad for the people out there who make mailings like this. It’s simply pathetic.
October 23rd, 2008 at 2:49 pmI might be moving to North Carolina in January. Should I expect an even crazier GOP than the one here in Virginia?
I’ll try to answer my own question: I don’t know about Hagan – she’s certainly picking up steam – but Beverly Purdue looks to be a lock for Governor. Is she a full-fledged democrat or does she lean dixiecrat?
If you’re still here missmolly, I’d love to read a response from you.
October 23rd, 2008 at 2:52 pm“Do you want your Boy Scout to believe that homosexual acts are normal? I know that Jesus’ word says that it is abnormal and an abomination to anything spiritual. Therefore, it is imperative that Senator Dole retains her seat or North Carolina is completely gone. They are already beginning to support someone who interacts with terrorists (Hussein).”
You are sick!
October 23rd, 2008 at 2:53 pmSend a note to Keith Obierman on Countdown recommending the republican party of NC for “worst person of the world award!”
letters@msnbc.com
October 23rd, 2008 at 2:56 pmmisshusseinmolly Says:
This may change a few votes — although I’m sure the vast majority of the homophobes here in this state have already decided to vote a straight GOP ticket.
But I don’t expect it to have a widespread impact…
October 23rd, 2008 at 2:20 pm
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Will the “gay thing” have an actual widespread impact? No.
You should expect it to be part of the narrative, however, that explains why Obama was leading in the polls but so many NC voters decided, at the last minute, to change their minds and vote McCain.
Part of it will be explained away by the Bradley Effect, part of it will be explained away by “values voters,” and of course it will have nothing whatsoever to do with Republican operatives like Mike Connell hacking electronic machines or tampering with ballots or any other sort of election fraud.
Mark my words. This is exactly what will happen when McCain pulls off an unbelievable upset in two weeks.
October 23rd, 2008 at 2:56 pmWhat hurts American families more? Lets compare:
1. Good paying jobs shipped overseas so CEO’s can gorge themselves with more money. Hurts families.
October 23rd, 2008 at 2:59 pm2. Stock market manipulated by speculators so oil companies can gorge themselves with more money. Hurts families.
3. Iraq war started so Cheney/Bush and PNAC cabal could steal Iraq’s oil resources for themselves and their allies so they could monopolize the oil revenue and gorge themselves with more money. Hurts families (especially those whose family members died as a result, Iraqi and American).
4. Lobbyists gorge themselves with more money from large corporate and private interests that buy politicians so as to facilitate said interests ability through continuous deregulation to gorge themselves with more money. Hurts families (deregulation promotes get-rich-quick schemes which circumvents legitimate stock trading and when stocks tank jobs and money are lost).
5. Unscrupulous lenders flim-flam people into ARM’s then sell them quickly to gorge themselves with money. Hurts families (when rate is increased and income is stagnant they can’t pay and lose their home to foreclosure).
6. Insurance companies deny coverage to a suffering patient with life threatening malady so they can continue to gorge themselves with more money. Hurts families (how a human being can deny coverage for treatment that may save the patient’s life is reprehensible).
7. Infrastructure not properly maintained and/or upgraded on a timely basis because republicans want continuous war so their personal war-profiteers can continue to gorge themselves with more money. Hurts families (This could not only provide thousands of jobs but, also helps provide better safety for all during their travels).
8. Pharmaceutical companies don’t want to offer cures because once a recipiant is cured they no longer need pharmaceutical companies products. Big Pharma only wants managed care to treat the ailment so the recipiant has to pay for life so the pharmaceutical companies can gorge themselves with more money. Hurts families (What would you rather see, a cured father that can work and function with his children or one that has to swallow 10-20 pills a day just to stay alive?).
9. Two gay people want to show their devotion to each other for life. Hurts whom?
raynman Says:
Swimming = Politics
You meant Drowning = Politics right?
The only thing threatening my marriage is infidelity and divorce.
October 23rd, 2008 at 2:59 pmsomeone who interacts with terrorists (Hussein).
OK, now correct me if I am wrong, but isn’t Mr. Ayers’ the perfect example of christian redemption? I would love to see this ad – Sen. Obama consorting with reformed William Ayers? After all, aren’t christian teachings all about forgiveness, redemption, and the opportunity to make something anew of one’s life?
Mr. Ayers’ life – currently – would appear to be a text book case. And a fine example at that…
(At least this would be the spin the Republican party would put on it if the association was McCain/Ayers…)
October 23rd, 2008 at 2:59 pmI think they’re going to steal NC and Virginia but only to make Obama’s victory margin enough so that they can claim that he stole the election. Then they have their scapegoat to blame the aftermath of the Bush administration and they can spend 4 years trying to de-legitimize him.
Daryll, why are you not on the bandwagon for a constitutional amendment to BAN DIVORCE? After all, DIVORCE is the destruction of a marriage and since you are a defender of “traditional marriage,” why do you not start a campaign for a constitutional amendment? I’m sure those crying loudest about gay marriage would join you.
October 23rd, 2008 at 3:00 pmDo you want your Boy Scout to believe that DIVORCES are normal, Daryll?
October 23rd, 2008 at 3:04 pmCan someone please tell me what gay marriage has to do with anything? Why is this even an issue?
October 23rd, 2008 at 3:05 pmI think the forces behind these mailers are counting on a “Gasp! Oh no! TEH GAY!” reaction from the recipients — enough to blind them to the reality that U.S. Senators (the job that Hagan and Dole are competing for) do NOT have anything to do with North Carolina state constitutional amendments.
As far as removing the words “under God” from the Pledge of Allegiance — this has nothing to do with homosexuality, and the Pledge got along just fine without those words up until 1954, when they were added. Although there are many Americans who believe that the “founding fathers” wrote it that way — including one of our candidates for VP.
And last — about the Boy Scouts. Last I heard, they are a private organization, and as such can determine who gets to be a Scoutmaster and who doesn’t. It’s only if they receive federal money that it becomes important that they don’t violate the civil rights of others by discriminating against them. Oh, and as a side note — almost every time I read about a child molester in the paper, it’s a heterosexual church-going man. There appears to be less to fear with gays and atheists.
This mailing just appears to be a collection of warmed over leftover wedge issues that are already past their expiration date. Just more desperate flailing by someone who’s drowning.
October 23rd, 2008 at 3:05 pmMcWars,
Elizabeth Dole has been running the most hateful BS ads against Kay Hagan since the campaigning began. I’m defn voting for Hagan. In fact, I’d vote for a shriveled up piece of turd before I voted for Dole. (If one could tell them apart…)
I had voted for Bev Purdue’s challenger in the Dem primary.
Anyway, even if I had no idea who Hagan or Dole were, I’d vote against Dole just based on her ads.
October 23rd, 2008 at 3:05 pmbarracks9 Says:
After all, aren’t christian teachings all about forgiveness, redemption, and the opportunity to make something anew of one’s life?
October 23rd, 2008 at 2:59 pm
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That’s not the type of “Christian teachings” they do in churches like the Wasilla Assembly of God. Those teachings are all about righteous wars and witch-burnings and snake-handling and speaking in tongues – there’s no time for fluffery like forgiveness and redemption.
October 23rd, 2008 at 3:05 pmWILL JEEBUS RESTORE THE BANKING INDUSTRY TO NC?
Go to church on Sunday to not find out!
October 23rd, 2008 at 3:07 pmRaptureReady Says:
They are already beginning to support someone who interacts with terrorists (Hussein).
If that actually were the case you have the worst intelligence gathering apparatus in the world and DHS works something like FEMA during Katrina. What about ATF and FBI as well. They are so inept, according to you, that they would let a celebrity terrorist sympathyzer run loose in the US let alone run for President. So nothing has changed in the US since 2001 except that the Republicans have made the government bigger with a useless DHS department.
You my friend are a F*&^&%G moron.
October 23rd, 2008 at 3:07 pmupnorth Says:
The only thing threatening my marriage is infidelity and divorce.
Something these family values Republicans seem to know very well…
October 23rd, 2008 at 3:08 pmmisshusseinmolly Says:
This may change a few votes — although I’m sure the vast majority of the homophobes here in this state have already decided to vote a straight GOP ticket.
As opposed to a gay ticket? LOL. Sorry, couldn’t resist!
October 23rd, 2008 at 3:08 pmDo you want your Boy Scout to believe that homosexual acts are normal?
My future boy scout will figure that out for himself, around puberty. His Mom and I are heteros but would let him be what he is, gay or straight.
I know that Jesus’ word says that it is abnormal and an abomination to anything spiritual.
You perhaps are forgetting stuff like the sermon on the mount, and the FACT that Jesus said NOTHING about homosexuality in any Bible I ever read.
Therefore, it is imperative that Senator Dole retains her seat or North Carolina is completely gone.
Senator Dole can take a hike with the rest of her republican nation destroyers.
They are already beginning to support someone who interacts with terrorists (Hussein).
October 23rd, 2008 at 3:11 pmGet lucid Darlyy, who is the THEY boogieman you refer to?
Vote for Sidney and get over it.
Let’s hope Obama gets defense spending under control and you get kicked out of your cushy DOD contracts and have to get a real job.
ScaryBrownHusseinChick (ThinkOutsideTheBush) Says:
As opposed to a gay ticket? LOL. Sorry, couldn’t resist!
October 23rd, 2008 at 3:08 pm
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GOod point – it’s only a matter of time before one of them North Carolina “Straight GOP’ers” is caught foot-tapping in an airport restroom.
October 23rd, 2008 at 3:11 pmPro God
Pro America
Pro Choice
Pro Equality
Pro Obama/Biden
That says it all.
October 23rd, 2008 at 3:12 pmhussein toasterhead Says:
That’s not the type of “Christian teachings” they do in churches like the Wasilla Assembly of God.
Hence my use of the lower case “c” in christian – more an adjective than a noun.
October 23rd, 2008 at 3:14 pmSeriously, Darlyy, do you actually think your Oral Roberts CIS degree is going to help you get your next job at Burger King?
October 23rd, 2008 at 3:14 pmthings that make a thinking person go “hmmmmm”
why on earth why gays want gay marriage (when marriage is essentially a religious thing) but want God taken out of the pledge of alligence?
October 23rd, 2008 at 3:16 pmFred Says:
Just another example of what FDR said conservatives are. Men/women with two perfectly good legs that refuse to walk forward.
They are trying again to take us back in time, back to the fifties when racism and gay bashing was a sport.
Wouldn’t that be forward in time to the 50s after they have taken us all the way back to 1929?
October 23rd, 2008 at 3:18 pmAbsolutly right Wayne, I forgot there is more involved than just gay bashing and racist bigotry……they deregulation of the 20’s and tax cuts for the wealthy of the same era mirrors where we are today.
October 23rd, 2008 at 3:24 pmhussein toasterhead Says:
GOod point – it’s only a matter of time before one of them North Carolina “Straight GOP’ers” is caught foot-tapping in an airport restroom.
Yet those guys would consider it okay to have gay sex as long as they are married to a woman.
October 23rd, 2008 at 3:25 pmScaryBrownHusseinChick (ThinkOutsideTheBush) Says:
Yet those guys would consider it okay to have gay sex as long as they are married to a woman.
Right, because then they can use of their excuses (entrapment) or euphemisms (just messin’ around…or hunting).
October 23rd, 2008 at 3:38 pmRaptureReady Says:
Your normal idiocy
Do you want your Boy Scout to believe that homosexual acts are normal?
Sure, they are normal, and MOST importantly I want them to think gay people are PEOPLE. That they arent lepers and shouldnt be treated as if they were.
I know that Jesus’ word says that it is abnormal and an abomination to anything spiritual.
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No he didnt. You CLAIM to be a Christian and yet you obviously dont know the bible. Jesus never said a single word about homosexuality. There have ALWAYS been homosexuals but clearly Jesus didnt think it was a big enough issue to rail against, that is clear by the fact HE NEVER SAID A WORD ABOUT IT.
Therefore, it is imperative that Senator Dole retains her seat or North Carolina is completely gone.
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You are a liar and a fool. Calling Obama by his middle name outs you as a moronic hivemind punk. A ridiculous parody of an actual human being who doesnt even KNOW what he thinks until the Limborg TELL you. You are an embarassment to all Americans. It is a shame that morons like you are allowed to vote
October 23rd, 2008 at 3:40 pm#barracks9 Says:
someone who interacts with terrorists (Hussein).
OK, now correct me if I am wrong, but isn’t Mr. Ayers’ the perfect example of christian redemption? I would love to see this ad – Sen. Obama consorting with reformed William Ayers? After all, aren’t christian teachings all about forgiveness, redemption, and the opportunity to make something anew of one’s life?
Unfortunately to Republicans redemption is only available to them. If you are a Democrat, no redemption is allowed.
October 23rd, 2008 at 3:40 pmThe “suggestive” cake toppers were a nice touch. Perverts. Looks like Ms. Hagen needs our support.
Obama/Biden 08
October 23rd, 2008 at 3:45 pm#65 – libmama Says:
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“The “suggestive” cake toppers were a nice touch. Perverts. Looks like Ms. Hagen needs our support.
Obama/Biden 08″
October 23rd, 2008 at 3:45 pm
Looks like they got the “theme” from the Sen. Craig “this is how you do it” step-by-step manual! LOL
October 23rd, 2008 at 3:52 pmThanks, you ScaryBrownHusseinChick!
October 23rd, 2008 at 4:04 pmbarracks9 Says:
someone who interacts with terrorists (Hussein).
OK, now correct me if I am wrong, but isn’t Mr. Ayers’ the perfect example of christian redemption? I would love to see this ad – Sen. Obama consorting with reformed William Ayers? After all, aren’t christian teachings all about forgiveness, redemption, and the opportunity to make something anew of one’s life?
Mr. Ayers’ life – currently – would appear to be a text book case. And a fine example at that…
(At least this would be the spin the Republican party would put on it if the association was McCain/Ayers…)
October 23rd, 2008 at 2:59 pm
If bit’s understanding is accurate, Christian redemption requires repentance on the part of the sinner.
Did you forget repentance?
October 23rd, 2008 at 4:08 pmThe argument that these numbskulls make might as well say:
“Don’t vote for Kay, because it rhymes with Gay!!”
October 23rd, 2008 at 4:12 pmRaptureReady: wrong again!
I know that Jesus doesn’t hate. Period.
Your hateful and bigoted comments indicate that you don’t know very much about Jesus.
What’s more, you don’t seem to know very much about North Carolina either. The people who live in NC haven’t had any representation in the US Senate since Johnny Edwards left. Liddy Dole was never anything more than a reliable rubberstamp for the chimp administration, and as such, she’s part of the problem.
With any luck, the people of North Carolina will pull the chain on Dole and regain partial representation in the US Senate by electing Kay Hagen on Nov. 4th.
October 23rd, 2008 at 4:12 pmbitblt Says:
Using the words bit and understand in the same sentence is a clear oxymoron. You couldnt understand a game of tic-tac-toe
October 23rd, 2008 at 4:17 pmRUCerious Says:
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You perhaps are forgetting stuff like the sermon on the mount, and the FACT that Jesus said NOTHING about homosexuality in any Bible I ever read.
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October 23rd, 2008 at 3:11 pm
Thanks for being accurate in this statement. It is true that the Bible does not record that Jesus said anything directly about homosexuality.
The Bible does mention that not everything Jesus did or said was recorded, and the Bible does say, in Matthew 19, that the Creator intended that a man and a woman would be “one flesh” in marriage.
October 23rd, 2008 at 4:19 pmThe Bible does mention that not everything Jesus did or said was recorded, and the Bible does say, in Matthew 19, that the Creator intended that a man and a woman would be “one flesh” in marriage.
Jesus makes endorses this union in Matthew 19.
October 23rd, 2008 at 4:20 pmbitblt Says:
Yeah he said that in the context of talking about DIVORCE not any condemnation of homesexuality. You cannot read minds. You cant read OUR minds much less Jesus dead about 2,000 years. You never know what you are talking about you are an idiot
October 23rd, 2008 at 4:22 pmNo it doesn’t….damn you are ignorant.
October 23rd, 2008 at 4:31 pmEugeneDebs Says:
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October 23rd, 2008 at 4:22 pm
He, Christ, gave an answer to the divorce question that was bigger than the question. He reasoned from the most general view to a specific question. He answered the question with reference to what the Creator intended.
bit doesn’t have to read Jesus’ mind. His words are in the Bible.
bit doesn’t care to read your mind.
According to the Bible, Jesus died about 2000 years ago. Also according to the Bible three days after His death, He was raised from the dead and continues to live. The importance of the event is expressed in John 3:16.
October 23rd, 2008 at 4:36 pmWhy don’t the many idiot schizophrenic personages of Daryl (RaptureReady,Tracy_?,bitblt etc..) ever let the true Daryl (Teh Gay one) come out?
October 23rd, 2008 at 4:36 pmThose sick bastards are really grasping at straws aren’t they? This 2000, 2004 KKKarl Rovian crap just isn’t getting traction in 2008. Bring it on Repignicans. Keep wasting your money on non-issues. Please.
October 23rd, 2008 at 4:45 pmOctober 23rd, 2008 at 4:47 pm
Hey bitblt:
October 23rd, 2008 at 4:52 pmHow you been? I still have little use for your favorite book but I figure your infatuation for it well equal things out for us
dbadass Says:
Hey bitblt:
How you been? I still have little use for your favorite book but I figure your infatuation for it well equal things out for us
October 23rd, 2008 at 4:52 pm
Hey yourself, dbadass!
You drop by to give TPers a timely, precisely measured, precisely timed injection of hormonal juice?
If so bit’ll probably be dropping the usual – APA official statement on the cause of said malady.
A book like the Bible is invaluable. Without it, people will called such odd, far-out stuff as two(or more) same-same gender people can marry.
October 23rd, 2008 at 5:09 pmFred Says:
bitblt Says:
If bit’s understanding is accurate, Christian forgiveness/redemption requires repentance on the part of the sinner.
Did you forget repentance?
No it doesn’t….damn you are ignorant.
October 23rd, 2008 at 4:31 pm
bit’s understanding includes this:
Acts 2 verses 37 and 38
http://bibleresources.bible.com/passagesearchresults.php?passage1=Acts+2&version=49
That word “Repent,” that’s repentance.
What’s your understanding include?
October 23rd, 2008 at 5:13 pmForty years ago, these same morons would be the ones calling a candidate “n*gger lover”.
October 23rd, 2008 at 5:14 pmI have yet to come across any religious text that doesn’t have some nice made up stories asking people to act nicely. I don’t find any more convincing than any other. Yes I know you don’t like to consider anything biochemical so carry on. Still I don’t have a clue what the hell that last sentence means but then again there is no evidence to support a hell so I don’t give a damn about that either. You forgot to suggest that without that big old book of quaint stories people might end up wanted to marry hampsters…
October 23rd, 2008 at 5:15 pmOh and bitblt. You know those jackass pharmacists that think they can use their religion as an excuse for not doing their jobs? Do you think I should employ the same bullshit theory. Very shortly I have to ship a lot of shellfish and I was thinnking I might just refuse for shits and giggles. What do you think or is that another one of those parts you folks all ignore?
October 23rd, 2008 at 5:18 pmI just contributed to Kay Hagen’s campaign so that she can defeat the bigoted Elizabeth Dole. I encourage all fair-minded people to do the same.
GO KAY!!!!!!
October 23rd, 2008 at 5:21 pmDr., they then have the gall to claim that the government is meddling in their business by collecting taxes…
October 23rd, 2008 at 5:29 pmThat ad makes me want to make another donation to Kay Hagan!
October 23rd, 2008 at 5:43 pmMy partner and I are impressed by the fact that Obama/Biden yard signs have been springing up like mushrooms in our Durham neighborhood over the past 2 weeks.
bitblt Says:
October 23rd, 2008 at 4:22 pm
He, Christ, gave an answer to the divorce question that was bigger than the question. He reasoned from the most general view to a specific question. He answered the question with reference to what the Creator intended.
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Exactly MORON his words are in the bible and NONE OF THEM are about homosexuality. His answer about marriage had NOTHING to do with homsexuality as much as you WISH your spin made sense. You CANT read his mind therefore YOU putting YOUR spin and interpretation on what he said means NOTHING. You keep SAYING that everything Jesus said is not in the bible that is fine but unless you can read his mind that doesnt mean YOU get to tell us what he MEANT that he didnt SAY in the bible. This is really pretty simple.
October 23rd, 2008 at 6:40 pmMore evidence of so-called Christians doing the opposite of what Jesus would have done. These faux Christians really don’t understand Jesus at all; they just listen to the hatred spewed by their radical right-wing evangelical “leaders”. Jesus: love, cherish & respect everyone. Right-wing radical evangelicals: no one matters but our church & our “religion”; we want to deny everyone else their human rights; in essence, we hate them.
October 23rd, 2008 at 6:50 pmJust for the record, bitblt is a bit of an idjit.
October 23rd, 2008 at 6:50 pmAnd I am not a jackass pharmacist.
Although, I have been called worse.
Usually in response to not filling OxyContin early!
:-)
GOP supporters are really pigs.
October 23rd, 2008 at 8:16 pmSort of off topic, but Tim Gunn (from Project Runway) has a very good defense of equality of the Proposition 8 in California.
http://www.salon.com/mwt/broadsheet/2008/10/23/gunn_ad/
October 23rd, 2008 at 8:27 pmThis is beyond stupid. Hagan’s strongest challenger in the primary was Jim Neal, an openly gay man. Neal gained quite a bit of grassroots support, especially given that he had no prior political profile in North Carolina. The fact that an openly gay man could run for Dole’s seat shows you just how much traction this issue has. Loser wedge for a loser candidate. We cannot wait to Dump Dole!
October 23rd, 2008 at 10:07 pmClick this link to see what’s coming next:
http://www.theonion.com/content/node/30475
This radical agenda must be stopped. WAKE UP AMERICA!!!1!
October 23rd, 2008 at 10:58 pmDr. Hussein Matt Says:
I added to the ante DR.Matt.
October 24th, 2008 at 1:24 amI thought everyone knew God likes to be on top.
October 24th, 2008 at 1:41 amThe best article about gay marriage, EVER!
http://news.yahoo.com/s/huffpost/20081024/cm_huffpost/137393
Snip: “Marriage takes work and practice, and that is why gays will never get it right. How can they hope to compete with the knowledge earned by doing? With the expertise gained by Rush Limbaugh and his three sacred marriages? Newt Gingrich and his two sacred marriages? Ronald Reagan, John McCain, Prince Charles, Rudy Giuliani, all pillars of society and all married over and over to hone the sanctity and commitment necessary to maintain the bedrock of a society, marriage between a man and several women. Nowhere does the Bible say marriage is between a man and a man trapped in a woman’s body. And as long as the President of the United States is sworn in with his hand on a Bible instead of on the Constitution, then we must make sure the Bible protects the Constitution. Besides, Billy Bob Thornton, Elizabeth Taylor, and Angelina Jolie took up sixteen marriages between them. We don’t have any extra.”
I love Elayne Boosler’s comedy, and this just makes me appreciate her even more!
October 24th, 2008 at 7:30 amDon’t forget the part about eating Christian children and taking their bibles away.
October 24th, 2008 at 8:55 amIn thirty years gay marriage will be normal and we will be talking about whether people can marry their robot or clone bot. Can you marry an Android or a manufactured humanoid?
#102 – beowolf Says:
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“In thirty years gay marriage will be normal and we will be talking about whether people can marry their robot or clone bot. Can you marry an Android or a manufactured humanoid?”
October 24th, 2008 at 8:55 am
I agree. It’s such a non-issue. The only threat to “traditional marriages” are the multi-married “anti-gay-marraige” folks.
When these people can’t keep their first marriage from falling apart, they rush off to marriage number two.
When they can’t keep their second marriage from falling apart, they rush off to marriage number three.
When they can’t keep their third marriage from falling apart, they rush off to marriage number four.
Repeat, repeat, repeat, repeat, repeat. . . . .
Yup, that is the ONLY threat to (supposed) “traditional marriage” available, but these people try to bring up wedge issues because they have nothing else to do with their lives. Except search for the next marriage. . . . . .
October 24th, 2008 at 9:09 amDemocrat Soldier,
I agree it’s a good article. However, to set the record straight (no pun intended): Newt Gingrich is actually on marriage #3. He famously told his first wife he wanted a divorce while she was recuperating in the hospital from a cancer operation. He was cheating on wife #2 with one of his female staffers, while trying to get Bill Clinton impeached for an extramartial blow job. He has since divorced wife #2 and married his staffer/mistress.
I really love Republiscum family values, don’t you?
Democrat Soldier Says:
October 24th, 2008 at 11:45 amThe best article about gay marriage, EVER!
http://news.yahoo.com/ s/ huffpost/ 20081024/ cm_huffpost/ 137393
Snip: “Marriage takes work and practice, and that is why gays will never get it right. How can they hope to compete with the knowledge earned by doing? With the expertise gained by Rush Limbaugh and his three sacred marriages? Newt Gingrich and his two sacred marriages?
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