Rove: People In Pennsylvania ‘Really Do Cling To Their Guns And Their Faith’
Rove: People In Pennsylvania ‘Really Do Cling To Their Guns And Their Faith’
When Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL) made his infamous “bitter” comments this past April, the right-wing pounced. Leading the charge against Obama was Karl Rove, who said that the remark showed that Obama “is an elitist, he does think he’s smarter than other people.” Rove told the NRA in May:
We here have news for Barack Obama. The values of those people you diminished are the values of America. And those people don’t like getting patronized, or viewed as an alien species.
Yesterday on Hannity and Colmes, however, Rove — without a hint of irony — repeated the same line as Obama, describing “coal country” Pennsylvanians as those who “really do” cling to guns and religion:
ROVE: But it’s a conservative part of the state, and then if you take the far southwestern corner over there near Pittsburgh and the suburbs, that’s coal country, and that’s the kind of people who really do cling to their guns and their faith, and took a lot of — you know that was part of the state where Obama might be expected to do well.
Alan Colmes picked up on the gaffe. “I don’t believe you just said that. You didn’t say what Obama said?” Colmes asked. Rove stammered, claiming he forgot to add air quotes:
ROVE: No, no, I’m just trying — I’m quoting Obama and then I want it –
COLMES: That was a quote. I just wanted to be sure.
ROVE: That was a quote. In quotes.
COLMES: I didn’t see the hand quote thing.
Watch it:
After Obama made the remarks in April, Sean Hannity asked whether it was evidence that Obama was “hiding his true beliefs.” But as Newshounds observed, “There wasn’t a peep of protest from Sean Hannity” last night. Is Rove hiding his true beliefs? We await the right wing’s condemnation.
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Won't somebody drop kick Rover in the nuts?
Please?
How tough can it be? To sustain the fabric of lies and corruption he represents, they gotta be at LEAST the size of bowling balls, and so would seem to offer a pretty simple, obvious target.
October 23rd, 2008 at 9:56 amWait a second...
Colmes actually removed his lips from Hannity's posterior long enough to call Rove on his BS??
I guess the tide is truly turning....
October 23rd, 2008 at 9:59 amRove's the real elitist. He thinks the American people are dumb and that's why his tactics work on the citizens. He uses 1984 and The Prince as guidebooks instead of as cautionary tales.
October 23rd, 2008 at 9:59 amI'm so sick of this bloated conman. No wonder folks want Rove to get locked up. Hopefully, he'll do what Michelle Bachman did and put his big foot in his big mouth! Keep talking Rove, soon you'll be falling into that gigantic hole you've dug for yourself!
October 23rd, 2008 at 10:00 ampublic speaking while on anti-anxiety meds isnt a wise idea carl, granted your very justified in using them these days..
October 23rd, 2008 at 10:01 am... really do cling to their guns and their faith, and took a lot of — you know that was part of the state where...
"a lot of" WHAT, kkkarl?
what could he have possibly almost said there?
October 23rd, 2008 at 10:02 amROVE: That was a quote. In quotes.
COLMES: I didn’t see the hand quote thing.
- - Karl knows 'air quotes' like he knows math.
October 23rd, 2008 at 10:06 am*sigh*
Silly me, but I actually WANT someone smarter and better educated than myself running the country. And I would hope that the next POTUS DOES think that they are smarter than I, because if that person does not, GOD HELP US. If that is "elitist", so be it.
October 23rd, 2008 at 10:11 amOnce again we hear "I didn't say what I just said, I didn't mean to say what I just said, You didn't hear what I just said, It's all your fault (or insert another name here), I want my mommy".
October 23rd, 2008 at 10:16 amAny network with the likes of Rove and Ollie North should be called the traitor network. Too bad Timothy McVeigh is dead, his ideas and political leanings would be right at home on Fox. The angry white male voters would have another icon who'd been "unfairly" demonized by the liberal media to get their opinions from.
October 23rd, 2008 at 10:18 amAnd I would hope that the next POTUS DOES think that they are smarter than I, because if that person does not, GOD HELP US. If that is “elitist”, so be it.
[rolls eyes]
We just had a president of that caliber, and you want another?
Flying spagetti monster, save us!
October 23rd, 2008 at 10:18 amactually, people would be better off clinging to thier bibles than they would clinging to karls "the maths" calculators..
October 23rd, 2008 at 10:20 amSilly me, but I actually WANT someone smarter and better educated than myself running the country. And I would hope that the next POTUS DOES think that they are smarter than I, because if that person does not, GOD HELP US. If that is “elitist”, so be it.
Average Murkins aren't smarter than anybody.
Mostly, they successfully intuit that fact from their inability to decode anything more challenging than TV Guide.
But EVERYBODY wants to feel smart, at least smarter than somebody else. Murkins choose "leaders" on the basis that they do not seem as smart as the average voter...
We get what we pay for...
October 23rd, 2008 at 10:20 amOn a side note: Anyone else think poor Alan Colmes may be in need of some serious PTSD treatment after all these years of being across from Hannity's shouting and rage?
Maybe we should start a "Save Alan" campaign?
October 23rd, 2008 at 10:23 am>“a lot of” WHAT, kkkarl?
my guess is "alot of positions that wern't in thier own best interest"
October 23rd, 2008 at 10:24 amBush's brain? More like Bush's ass!
October 23rd, 2008 at 10:25 amSorry Barfly, let me rephrase -
And I would hope that the next POTUS IS smarter than I and DOESN'T just THINK SO, because if that person isn't, GOD HELP US.
October 23rd, 2008 at 10:27 amAMacPill Says:
Silly me, but I actually WANT someone smarter and better educated than myself running the country.
October 23rd, 2008 at 10:11 am
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Abso-friggin-lutely. As Jon Stewart so brilliantly pointed out - the job Obama and McCain and McKinney and the others are running for is the kind of job that, if they do it really really well, could end with their heads being carved into the side of a mountain someday. That's not a job for just anybody. You want the best of the best, not the averagest of the averagest.
October 23rd, 2008 at 10:29 amI ask yet again is there really anyone out their that gives a rat's ass about the yesman ClusterTim and the dumbass Privacy Center? Why does TP continue to allow this. Can the rest of us all hawk whatever crap we have to hawk?
October 23rd, 2008 at 10:30 amBushHater Says:
Bush’s brain? More like Bush’s ass!
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When you take into account just how far Botch seems to have his head up his Cheney, associating Botch's brain w/ his ass is actually rather appropriate, no?
October 23rd, 2008 at 10:31 amAlso - Rove and Obama are wrong if they think that all rural Pennsylvanians cling to are guns and God. I've been to that part of the state a few times, and can testify that they also cling to cheap drafts of Rolling Rock during happy hour. That's pretty much the bedrock of civilization right there.
October 23rd, 2008 at 10:32 amYes because the more people running around with guns we have the better off we'll be...idiot.
Glad to see Colmes grow a spine for a few seconds, with this following Matthews ripping both Bachmann and Pfotenhauer recently perhaps some in the Media are waking up? I'm not going to hold my breath.
October 23rd, 2008 at 10:34 amColmes didn't grow a spine or a pair or anything -- what happened was that he had a momentary functioning of his brain, and he realized that Rove was quoting Obama and was HELPING Rove cover over his blunder. This was NOT anything resembling journalism, it was trying to cover Roves big fat a^^.
October 23rd, 2008 at 10:42 amSpeaking of Jon Stewart, he absolutely NAILED the Palin Clan last night, calling 'em "grifters."
Which is exactly right:
October 23rd, 2008 at 10:44 am
CageyCretin Says:
This was NOT anything resembling journalism, it was trying to cover Roves big fat a^^.
October 23rd, 2008 at 10:42 am
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And that's no small task. Perhaps if Colmes stitched a few tarps together...
October 23rd, 2008 at 10:45 amActually, tokin', I don't think Murkans are all that stupid. The quickest way that I, a relatively smart guy, can act like an idiot is if I'm not paying attention. And they are being told constantly not to pay attention.
October 23rd, 2008 at 11:03 amI have programmer friends who are blazingly intelligent, and yet when I talk to them about politics, they respond with some half-baked libertarian cowpie clearly marked 'Don't Bother Me'.
The Republicans know all about 'Don't bother Me." that's why they had no new taxes, no drat, hid homecoming coffins, and minimized war coverage in general, wanting Americans' channel to the war to be Ari Fleischer saying 'We're winning.' We're winning; it's ugly, but you don't have to look. We're winning. It's OK to say Don't bother me. Go shopping. And that's all it takes to turn smart people into stupid people.
(Gurdjieff could tell you that.)
Unfortunately for the Republicans, They've done all these things that people have to pay attention to, because they're driving spikes into their way of life. And it will kill them.
Hmmm, guns AND bibles... Scary combination.
October 23rd, 2008 at 11:06 amKarl is really not doing too well out in the real world.
Back in his years with Bush, people would look at Rove and G.W. and think, "Well Bush managed to win an election. So, one of those two guys must be a genius."
But despite the fact that Karl has been in the proximity of winning campaigns, I'm not seeing many signs of genius. All he has is a smug attitude, which may seem more appropriate when you win something.
But now that his "permanent Republican majority" is crumbling around him, and he can't even float his muddled rhetoric on Fox News, the smugness seems kind of sad and desperate.
October 23rd, 2008 at 11:11 amWay to help Rove cover his ass Colmes.
October 23rd, 2008 at 11:19 amliberal traitor Says:
Glad to see Colmes grow a spine for a few seconds, with this following Matthews ripping both Bachmann and Pfotenhauer recently perhaps some in the Media are waking up? I’m not going to hold my breath.
I'm not so sure that Matthews's apparent turn around is heart-felt though. He is talking about running for political office and I think he is leaning left now because he sees being perceived as a moderate-liberal is his best chance of winning.
But, remember, it wasn't long ago when Matthews had his lips firmly on GW's butt.
October 23rd, 2008 at 11:31 amAs we know from Chimpy's former director of faith-based initiatives, KKKarl's pet name for these people is "the nuts". It is therefore appropriate that KKKarl now appears on Fox "News" whose president, one Roger Ailes was quoted in "The Selling of the Presidency, 1968" as referring to the kinds of folk populating central Pennsylvania and other blue collar states as "Yahoos". Republican contempt for its own voter base is nothing new. Just look at McCain's veep choice if you need proof.
October 23rd, 2008 at 11:35 amKarl Rove is what the Germans would describe as a schweinhund.
The sick thing is this bastard looks forward to a practically guaranteed pardon from any harm by his pal Chimpy. After that, he's immune from prosecution for the crimes he's committed. Absolutely sickening.
I wish the person assigned to put Rove in handcuffs the other night was not a woman, but a big, huge, burly, strong m-f'er, who when Rove began to resist, could slam his whining, flailing a** to the ground to complete the arrest!
October 23rd, 2008 at 11:46 amBut it sounded so much better when Rove said it.
/SNARK /NARF!
October 23rd, 2008 at 12:00 pmRemind me why KKKarl Rove is not in prison.
October 23rd, 2008 at 12:57 pmWell, as for McCain campaign's latest strategic masterstroke, I'll just point out that the last guy to try to win by pouring everything into Pennsylvania was Robert E. Lee.
October 23rd, 2008 at 1:04 pmLee at least got out with his honor intact. History will not be so kind to McCain.
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Oh,
So it IS about guns and faith?
ROVE = HYPOCRITE
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October 23rd, 2008 at 1:53 pmRove and his ilk are a bunch of lying hypocrites.
October 23rd, 2008 at 5:35 pmWhy is Karl Rove still on the news?
October 23rd, 2008 at 7:23 pmHopefully these people will see that those Republican operatives using them are at least as cynical about rural culture as the people they've been voting against.
October 23rd, 2008 at 11:40 pmkarl rove will be "news" when hes "arrested and jailed"
October 24th, 2008 at 9:32 amKarl Rove takes back what he said about the people in Pennsylvania and claims he was quoting Barack Obama. A political storm is brewing over Sen. Barack Obama's recent statements. Last Sunday, Obama was explaining his difficulty with winning over working-class voters in Pennsylvania and the Midwest, saying they have become frustrated with economic conditions.
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