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		<title>By: ElBruce</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/25/mccain-hoax/comment-page-2/#comment-5306798</link>
		<dc:creator>ElBruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2008 04:30:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lee-stranahan/i-was-attacked-by-a-well_b_137709.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Backlash is Starting&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lee-stranahan/i-was-attacked-by-a-well_b_137709.html" rel="nofollow">The Backlash is Starting</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5306798', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: EugeneDebs</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/25/mccain-hoax/comment-page-2/#comment-5306768</link>
		<dc:creator>EugeneDebs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2008 03:34:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another Chris Says: 

The media is not ever covering McCain’s campign with the same energy it is Obama. How could they steer them towards anything. Keith Olberman himself said there would be a vaccum once Obama went to Hawaii. I guess he forgot their are TWO canidates running. The media has put all their efforts behind Obama from day one. I don’t think there is any denying that.
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Oh yes there is denying it. I am in fact denying it. I think its delusional. We hear all about his reverand but Hagee? Nots so much its Ayers 24/7 for a couple of weeks Liddy? Not so much.  McCain has not been subjected to NEAR the scrutiny Obama has. Your complaint is a warmed over delusion about a liberal media. It exists mostly in your mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another Chris Says: </p>
<p>The media is not ever covering McCain’s campign with the same energy it is Obama. How could they steer them towards anything. Keith Olberman himself said there would be a vaccum once Obama went to Hawaii. I guess he forgot their are TWO canidates running. The media has put all their efforts behind Obama from day one. I don’t think there is any denying that.<br />
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<p>Oh yes there is denying it. I am in fact denying it. I think its delusional. We hear all about his reverand but Hagee? Nots so much its Ayers 24/7 for a couple of weeks Liddy? Not so much.  McCain has not been subjected to NEAR the scrutiny Obama has. Your complaint is a warmed over delusion about a liberal media. It exists mostly in your mind.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5306768', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: ElBruce</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/25/mccain-hoax/comment-page-2/#comment-5306746</link>
		<dc:creator>ElBruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2008 02:56:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This wouldn&#039;t have hit the MSM if the McCain campaign didn&#039;t push it by releasing a press release containing the most incendiary possible version of rumored events before they&#039;d been checked out by the police.  If it had showed up and then been proven false without McCain &quot;putting it on the table,&quot; then the MSM wouldn&#039;t have a handle - no reason to call it newsworthy on a national scale.  Huge mistake, McCainiacs.  Huge mistake.

So now she&#039;s angry at the press for reporting on it?  Yes, I completely believe that she wanted to avoid attention.  That must be why she lied to the police about being attacked by a giant extra-black face-mutilating Obama supporter.  I also believe that JtP wanted to avoid attention while he was giving lengthy press conferences and interviews on his lawn and dressing up to go on talk shows.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This wouldn&#8217;t have hit the MSM if the McCain campaign didn&#8217;t push it by releasing a press release containing the most incendiary possible version of rumored events before they&#8217;d been checked out by the police.  If it had showed up and then been proven false without McCain &#8220;putting it on the table,&#8221; then the MSM wouldn&#8217;t have a handle &#8211; no reason to call it newsworthy on a national scale.  Huge mistake, McCainiacs.  Huge mistake.</p>
<p>So now she&#8217;s angry at the press for reporting on it?  Yes, I completely believe that she wanted to avoid attention.  That must be why she lied to the police about being attacked by a giant extra-black face-mutilating Obama supporter.  I also believe that JtP wanted to avoid attention while he was giving lengthy press conferences and interviews on his lawn and dressing up to go on talk shows.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5306746', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: The Republic of Stupidity</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/25/mccain-hoax/comment-page-2/#comment-5306614</link>
		<dc:creator>The Republic of Stupidity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 23:41:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jahzilla Says:

Were they really back eyes or did Max Factor have a hand in this?
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The McMaverick Campaign has been spending an INSANE amount on make up of late... hmmm...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jahzilla Says:</p>
<p>Were they really back eyes or did Max Factor have a hand in this?<br />
__________</p>
<p>The McMaverick Campaign has been spending an INSANE amount on make up of late&#8230; hmmm&#8230;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5306614', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: pete</title>
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		<dc:creator>pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 23:38:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know what is more disturbing. The slimy nature of the GOP campaign or, how incredibly bad they have become at smearing. I bet Herr Karl is getting drunk and bemoaning the sad fate of the smear and fear machine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know what is more disturbing. The slimy nature of the GOP campaign or, how incredibly bad they have become at smearing. I bet Herr Karl is getting drunk and bemoaning the sad fate of the smear and fear machine.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5306612', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: abarts</title>
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		<dc:creator>abarts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 22:02:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;UpdateThinkProgress spoke with a representative from the McCain campaign who confirmed that they have not yet put out a statement about the Todd hoax.&lt;/em&gt;

I want to know why they have not issued any statement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>UpdateThinkProgress spoke with a representative from the McCain campaign who confirmed that they have not yet put out a statement about the Todd hoax.</em></p>
<p>I want to know why they have not issued any statement.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5306526', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Chocolate Jesus</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/25/mccain-hoax/comment-page-2/#comment-5306460</link>
		<dc:creator>Chocolate Jesus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 20:59:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;I hope this girl gets the proper 
&gt;treatment she needs for her 
&gt;obvious mental issues. 

That treatment being jail for as long as possible, on as many 
different charges as could legally be brought against her for this charade she pulled. Then an exile to the trailer part where someone of her mental and ethical shortcomings will undoubtedly spend the rest of thier miserable, worthless lives.

My sympathy for the mental shortcomings of others ends where the harm they cause others begins. Irregardless of the implications on the presidential race, this white trash 
hillybilly from one of the most rancid, backward, cowf#cking, biblehumping cities in texas (and thats saying ALOT) could have cause ALOT of innocent blacks and/or obama supporters to be brutally attacked in retribution for this alleged attack on a white woman...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;I hope this girl gets the proper<br />
&gt;treatment she needs for her<br />
&gt;obvious mental issues. </p>
<p>That treatment being jail for as long as possible, on as many<br />
different charges as could legally be brought against her for this charade she pulled. Then an exile to the trailer part where someone of her mental and ethical shortcomings will undoubtedly spend the rest of thier miserable, worthless lives.</p>
<p>My sympathy for the mental shortcomings of others ends where the harm they cause others begins. Irregardless of the implications on the presidential race, this white trash<br />
hillybilly from one of the most rancid, backward, cowf#cking, biblehumping cities in texas (and thats saying ALOT) could have cause ALOT of innocent blacks and/or obama supporters to be brutally attacked in retribution for this alleged attack on a white woman&#8230;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5306460', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Badger</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/25/mccain-hoax/comment-page-2/#comment-5306434</link>
		<dc:creator>Badger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 20:20:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Satirev,

I think it has to be the latter....no wisdom and lurching.

If anyone at the McCain Campaign set this Public Relations Nightmare up on purpose, then they are More Dangerously Incompetent than I could believe.

Ms. Todd got the letter B Backwards!  She recanted her story almost immediately.  Sen. McCain is not good at vetting people, but this would be ridiculous.

This episode seems like Desperation mixed with Wishfull thinking and sloppy Homework.

I hope those in the McCain Campaign and the media who Ran with this story without  exercising  Due dillegence will be held Accountable.  This is social dynamite that could have ended Very Badly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Satirev,</p>
<p>I think it has to be the latter&#8230;.no wisdom and lurching.</p>
<p>If anyone at the McCain Campaign set this Public Relations Nightmare up on purpose, then they are More Dangerously Incompetent than I could believe.</p>
<p>Ms. Todd got the letter B Backwards!  She recanted her story almost immediately.  Sen. McCain is not good at vetting people, but this would be ridiculous.</p>
<p>This episode seems like Desperation mixed with Wishfull thinking and sloppy Homework.</p>
<p>I hope those in the McCain Campaign and the media who Ran with this story without  exercising  Due dillegence will be held Accountable.  This is social dynamite that could have ended Very Badly.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5306434', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: 5th Estate</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/25/mccain-hoax/comment-page-2/#comment-5306366</link>
		<dc:creator>5th Estate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 19:11:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jahzilla Says: &lt;em&gt;Were they really back eyes or did Max Factor have a hand in this? &lt;/em&gt;

I&#039;m no expert but Ms Todd&#039;s &#039;black eye&quot; looked a helluva lot like a reprise of the &lt;em&gt;Tareyton&lt;/em&gt; cigarette ads of the 70s (tag line: &quot;I&#039;d rather fight, than switch!&quot; [to another cigarette brand]).

It doesn&#039;t take even a pre-med student to know that a black-eye isn&#039;t consistently &#039;black&#039; (or dark gray in this case)without any other discoloration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jahzilla Says: <em>Were they really back eyes or did Max Factor have a hand in this? </em></p>
<p>I&#8217;m no expert but Ms Todd&#8217;s &#8216;black eye&#8221; looked a helluva lot like a reprise of the <em>Tareyton</em> cigarette ads of the 70s (tag line: &#8220;I&#8217;d rather fight, than switch!&#8221; [to another cigarette brand]).</p>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t take even a pre-med student to know that a black-eye isn&#8217;t consistently &#8216;black&#8217; (or dark gray in this case)without any other discoloration.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5306366', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Rutabaga</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/25/mccain-hoax/comment-page-2/#comment-5306360</link>
		<dc:creator>Rutabaga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 19:03:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m just grateful for the fact that Ashley Todd turned out to be such an idiot and that this story fell apart so easily, and so quickly.  Otherwise, could you imagine if this had gone so far as to have seen an innocent African-American man arrested, thrown in jail,and completely eviscerated by the media?  Not all that long ago, he might have faced an even worse fate from all the racist loonies out there.

This really should be the final nail in the McCain-Palin campaign&#039;s coffin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m just grateful for the fact that Ashley Todd turned out to be such an idiot and that this story fell apart so easily, and so quickly.  Otherwise, could you imagine if this had gone so far as to have seen an innocent African-American man arrested, thrown in jail,and completely eviscerated by the media?  Not all that long ago, he might have faced an even worse fate from all the racist loonies out there.</p>
<p>This really should be the final nail in the McCain-Palin campaign&#8217;s coffin.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5306360', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: dasm</title>
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		<dc:creator>dasm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 18:56:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The fact that her imagined assailant was a &quot;black man&quot; gave it all away.  More racist lies from the Republicans, trying to incite hatred &amp; division. And McCain &amp; Palin jumped right in immediately-- but now that we know Todd is another Repub liar, note how McCain/Palin have not denounced her-- they aren&#039;t even mentioning it.  It&#039;s disgusting how many times they&#039;ve demanded denunciations (for non-issues) of Obama, yet do nothing to denounce Repub liars &amp; smearers, other than to say &quot;We&#039;re moving on&quot;. Sorry, McCain/Palin, but the majority of us are not &quot;moving on&quot;, we are remembering your hate, racism, lies, &amp; smears.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fact that her imagined assailant was a &#8220;black man&#8221; gave it all away.  More racist lies from the Republicans, trying to incite hatred &amp; division. And McCain &amp; Palin jumped right in immediately&#8211; but now that we know Todd is another Repub liar, note how McCain/Palin have not denounced her&#8211; they aren&#8217;t even mentioning it.  It&#8217;s disgusting how many times they&#8217;ve demanded denunciations (for non-issues) of Obama, yet do nothing to denounce Repub liars &amp; smearers, other than to say &#8220;We&#8217;re moving on&#8221;. Sorry, McCain/Palin, but the majority of us are not &#8220;moving on&#8221;, we are remembering your hate, racism, lies, &amp; smears.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5306352', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Perry logan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Perry logan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 18:32:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I admit to being a little afraid of these republicans, my fellow Americans. They have no honor.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Take heart, my friend.  They are also cowards.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYxqSipov5E</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I admit to being a little afraid of these republicans, my fellow Americans. They have no honor.</p></blockquote>
<p>Take heart, my friend.  They are also cowards.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYxqSipov5E" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYxqSipov5E</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5306308', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: jahzilla</title>
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		<dc:creator>jahzilla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 18:20:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Questions . . .
If she came up with this all by herself, who blackened her eyes?
We get that the backwards &quot;B&quot; was likely self-administered, but if they were real, the ability to self-inflict such damage to one&#039;s own face seems highly suspect.
Were they really back eyes or did Max Factor have a hand in this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Questions . . .<br />
If she came up with this all by herself, who blackened her eyes?<br />
We get that the backwards &#8220;B&#8221; was likely self-administered, but if they were real, the ability to self-inflict such damage to one&#8217;s own face seems highly suspect.<br />
Were they really back eyes or did Max Factor have a hand in this?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5306294', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Bad Eye</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/25/mccain-hoax/comment-page-2/#comment-5306292</link>
		<dc:creator>Bad Eye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 18:18:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Re: ThinkProgress spoke with a representative from the McCain campaign who confirmed that they have not yet put out a statement about the Todd hoax.&lt;/em&gt;

Well, gee, if they were not involved in any way, shape, or form, then it should take all of 5 minutes to formulate a response.  How long has it been now?  24 hours and counting?

Thus the answer should be obvious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Re: ThinkProgress spoke with a representative from the McCain campaign who confirmed that they have not yet put out a statement about the Todd hoax.</em></p>
<p>Well, gee, if they were not involved in any way, shape, or form, then it should take all of 5 minutes to formulate a response.  How long has it been now?  24 hours and counting?</p>
<p>Thus the answer should be obvious.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5306292', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: 5th Estate</title>
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		<dc:creator>5th Estate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 18:07:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;tokin librul&lt;/strong&gt;... 

Sorry tokin, I appreciate the feedback but it&#039;s not helping much. 

It &lt;em&gt;is &lt;/em&gt;&lt;em&gt;Saturday &lt;/em&gt;after all so don&#039;t see why I should justify my expressed &quot;knowledge&quot; with anything more than fuzzy recollections about something just because you have &#039;facts&#039; and &#039;reading&#039; at your disposal, and really what&#039;s the point knowing historical type stuff? John McCain is historical and how relevant is he? HAH!

&lt;strong&gt;:)&lt;/strong&gt;

P.S. I&#039;m guessing John Stuart Mill might be the chap I was thinking of. But it&#039;s the weekend so I&#039;m just going to wallow in ignorance and beer instead taking any personal responsibility or whatnot. Cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>tokin librul</strong>&#8230; </p>
<p>Sorry tokin, I appreciate the feedback but it&#8217;s not helping much. </p>
<p>It <em>is </em><em>Saturday </em>after all so don&#8217;t see why I should justify my expressed &#8220;knowledge&#8221; with anything more than fuzzy recollections about something just because you have &#8216;facts&#8217; and &#8216;reading&#8217; at your disposal, and really what&#8217;s the point knowing historical type stuff? John McCain is historical and how relevant is he? HAH!</p>
<p><strong>:)</strong></p>
<p>P.S. I&#8217;m guessing John Stuart Mill might be the chap I was thinking of. But it&#8217;s the weekend so I&#8217;m just going to wallow in ignorance and beer instead taking any personal responsibility or whatnot. Cheers!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5306282', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: McWars</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/25/mccain-hoax/comment-page-2/#comment-5306272</link>
		<dc:creator>McWars</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 17:52:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;ThinkProgress spoke with a representative from the McCain campaign who confirmed that they have not yet put out a statement about the Todd hoax.&lt;/em&gt;

They&#039;re too busy planning the next longshot Obama trap to put out a statement. The fact that this plan failed will be of no deterrence to this pests. It&#039;s time to call the Orkin man on the McCain campaign.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>ThinkProgress spoke with a representative from the McCain campaign who confirmed that they have not yet put out a statement about the Todd hoax.</em></p>
<p>They&#8217;re too busy planning the next longshot Obama trap to put out a statement. The fact that this plan failed will be of no deterrence to this pests. It&#8217;s time to call the Orkin man on the McCain campaign.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5306272', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: 5th Estate</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/25/mccain-hoax/comment-page-2/#comment-5306268</link>
		<dc:creator>5th Estate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 17:45:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;DallasNE&lt;/strong&gt; Says: &lt;em&gt;&quot;You know, a simple “now we don’t need that” from McCain and Palin when somebody shouts “kill him” and other such outrages may well have prevented this hoax story from ever being planted by this 20-year old Texas woman. It is a case of you reap what you sow.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

Damn straight! I saw a clip on TV the other day of Obama at some rally and he made a reasonable critical remark about McCain and a &#039;booing&#039; begin to rise from the audience.

The second it started Obama looked over the audience and said firmly &quot;we don&#039;t need that&quot; and said something about expressing disagreement like that wouldn&#039;t be helpful to anyone, and the boos stopped immediately. One second. 

In all the clips of McCain I&#039;ve seen, he&#039;s lapped it up, he let&#039;s boos and jeers run on whilst he grins and nods in approval, equating approbation of Obama as a corollary endorsement of himself, when all McCain&#039;s actually doing is pandering to them so that they pander to him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>DallasNE</strong> Says: <em>&#8220;You know, a simple “now we don’t need that” from McCain and Palin when somebody shouts “kill him” and other such outrages may well have prevented this hoax story from ever being planted by this 20-year old Texas woman. It is a case of you reap what you sow.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>Damn straight! I saw a clip on TV the other day of Obama at some rally and he made a reasonable critical remark about McCain and a &#8216;booing&#8217; begin to rise from the audience.</p>
<p>The second it started Obama looked over the audience and said firmly &#8220;we don&#8217;t need that&#8221; and said something about expressing disagreement like that wouldn&#8217;t be helpful to anyone, and the boos stopped immediately. One second. </p>
<p>In all the clips of McCain I&#8217;ve seen, he&#8217;s lapped it up, he let&#8217;s boos and jeers run on whilst he grins and nods in approval, equating approbation of Obama as a corollary endorsement of himself, when all McCain&#8217;s actually doing is pandering to them so that they pander to him.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5306268', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: tokin librul</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/25/mccain-hoax/comment-page-2/#comment-5306266</link>
		<dc:creator>tokin librul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 17:41:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;5th Estate Says:
unbelievable # 15…re: work, bennies, productivity and capitalism.&lt;/i&gt;

Adam Smith published &quot;Wealth of Nations&quot; in 1776, same year as the DecOfInd was created. Part, that is, of the same spirit of inquiry which spawned &#039;democracy.&#039; But &#039;democracy&#039; and &#039;capitalism&#039; are fundamentally incompatible, a fact that nobody noticed, apparently, for a long time, the first ones being Marx and Engels.

&quot;Utilitarianism&quot;--the theory that society should be organized so as to supply the &#039;greatest good for the greatest number&quot;-- then emerged as the philosophical justification for capitalism. Utilitarianism was suggested by Bentham, before 1800, and elaborated by John Stuart Mill in the first decades of the 19th Centruy, just in time to rationalize the Industrial Revolution. 

just sayin&#039;...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>5th Estate Says:<br />
unbelievable # 15…re: work, bennies, productivity and capitalism.</i></p>
<p>Adam Smith published &#8220;Wealth of Nations&#8221; in 1776, same year as the DecOfInd was created. Part, that is, of the same spirit of inquiry which spawned &#8216;democracy.&#8217; But &#8216;democracy&#8217; and &#8216;capitalism&#8217; are fundamentally incompatible, a fact that nobody noticed, apparently, for a long time, the first ones being Marx and Engels.</p>
<p>&#8220;Utilitarianism&#8221;&#8211;the theory that society should be organized so as to supply the &#8216;greatest good for the greatest number&#8221;&#8211; then emerged as the philosophical justification for capitalism. Utilitarianism was suggested by Bentham, before 1800, and elaborated by John Stuart Mill in the first decades of the 19th Centruy, just in time to rationalize the Industrial Revolution. </p>
<p>just sayin&#8217;&#8230;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5306266', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Keith H.</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/25/mccain-hoax/comment-page-2/#comment-5306264</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith H.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 17:38:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.pubrecord.org/nationworld/426-bush-orders-to-doj-to-probe-ohio-voter-registrations.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Bush Orders DOJ to Probe Ohio Voter Registrations&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.pubrecord.org/nationworld/426-bush-orders-to-doj-to-probe-ohio-voter-registrations.html" rel="nofollow">Bush Orders DOJ to Probe Ohio Voter Registrations</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5306264', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Another Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Another Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 17:37:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The media is not ever covering McCain&#039;s campign with the same energy it is Obama. How could they steer them towards anything. Keith Olberman himself said there would be a vaccum once Obama went to Hawaii. I guess he forgot their are TWO canidates running. The media has put all their efforts behind Obama from day one. I don&#039;t think there is any denying that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The media is not ever covering McCain&#8217;s campign with the same energy it is Obama. How could they steer them towards anything. Keith Olberman himself said there would be a vaccum once Obama went to Hawaii. I guess he forgot their are TWO canidates running. The media has put all their efforts behind Obama from day one. I don&#8217;t think there is any denying that.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5306262', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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