Today on CNN’s Late Edition, Sen. Jon Kyl (R-AZ) claimed President Bush’s economic agenda had nothing to do with the current financial crisis, insisting defiantly that Bush “doesn’t run the economy”:
KYL: George Bush doesn’t run the economy. He didn’t create this problem. His tax rates being lower actually helped for six years create the second largest economic growth that we’ve had in the history of the country in recent years. … The President doesn’t run the economy.
Watch it:
The current financial crisis is a direct result of Bush running the economy. Bush’s massive tax cuts for the wealthy have contributed to record inequality and historic deficits and debt. The administration gutted several “specific regulations” of the financial system, helping plunge Wall Street into the mess it is facing today.
Embracing a common conservative talking point, Kyl tried to lay all the blame for the crisis on the lack of regulation of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. As Alan Greenspan, SEC Chairman Chris Cox, and former Treasury Secretary John Snow — along with the Wonk Room — have stated, this is false.
CAP’s Scott Lilly noted that for the past eight years “we have papered over the fact that American consumers do not have the purchasing power to sustain economic expansion.” Why? Bush’s policies have done nothing for the majority of Americans.
If Bush or any president doesn’t run the economy, then who does, Sen. Kyl?
“George Bush doesn’t run the economy. He didn’t create this problem. His tax rates being lower actually helped for six years create the second largest economic growth that we’ve had in the history of the country in recent years.”
Does this make any sense to anyone?
Either the president’s policies affect the economy or they don’t.
If Bush didn’t create the problem because “the president doesn’t run the economy” then Bush’s tax cuts had nothing to do with the economic growth over the last six years, such as it was.
If his tax cuts had an impact on the economy, then the argument that he has no blame due him is absurd.
Which is it, Senator?
October 26th, 2008 at 4:03 pmGeorge Bush doesn’t run the economy. His tax rates being lower actually helped for six years create the second largest economic growth….
If this guy had any cognitive ability, this logical paradox would have blown his tiny brain apart.
October 26th, 2008 at 4:04 pmA big problem is middle class wages have dropped since Dubya came in (when adjusted for inflation). The first time this has happened since The Great Depression. Spending came from the middle class dipping into their home equity. The housing bubble burst ended that. With gas, food, and healthcare going up, now the middle class has nothing to spend.
October 26th, 2008 at 4:05 pmDamn, Ralph beat me to it. Great minds and all that.
October 26th, 2008 at 4:06 pmThen why does the job growth rate improve every time a Democratic president follows a Republican—and worsen every time a Republican follows a Democrat? I mean as long as records have been kept—the 1920s. Why were 22 million jobs created under Clinton and only 4 million under Dubya? And don’t tell me the dotcoms.
October 26th, 2008 at 4:09 pmDo you think there’s any chance that these last months of the Outrageous Lie-o-Meter pegging off the scale will prove to more people how sorry their tv ‘news’ is ?
October 26th, 2008 at 4:16 pmPolitical extinction would be too good for clowns like Kyl.
Typical Republican, always trying to have it both ways. If the economy was good they would be heaping praise on Bush for the tax cuts and deregulation.
Come Nov. 4, let’s put them in a permanent minority.
¶ AIO
October 26th, 2008 at 4:16 pm@ ralph the wonder llama
Teh logic! It burns! It burns!
October 26th, 2008 at 4:18 pmThis from the “personal responsibility” crowd.
Sure, yup, I see, your right… Dur chimpfurher is just an innocent bystander just like all the repugs and neocons.
October 26th, 2008 at 4:18 pmKyl is right, everything runs through Dick, so the Vice President runs the economy.
October 26th, 2008 at 4:19 pmThese are the same folks that claim “value voters” in NV turn out in overwhelming/impossible numbers and elected the chimp in 2004.
And these same “value voters” supported a referendum to legalize prostitution. Guess daddy has to have something to do when mommy is being a “soccer mom.”
October 26th, 2008 at 4:20 pmKyl Says Bush Is Blame-Free In Financial Mess: ‘The President Doesn’t Run The Economy’»
– - I’m sure Sen. Kyl would have exactly the same opinion if the economy was just rosy and unemployment was at an all-time low.
October 26th, 2008 at 4:21 pmralph the wonder llama,
Dont’ch know…
When things go south, IDKIYR.
When things fo well, IOKIYR.
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October 26th, 2008 at 4:22 pmI may have beaten you to it by a whisker, cavjam, but you said it so much more efficiently.
October 26th, 2008 at 4:25 pm“the second largest economic growth that we’ve had in the history of the country in recent years.” has to be right up there in the history of weasel phrases with “weapons of mass destruction related program activities” and Hirohito’s “not necessarily to our advantage”.
actually a bit clumsy as “in the nation’s history” directly contradicts “in recent years” unless you are so old that the founding of the nation was a recent event.
Let’s put it this way, the Bush expansion was the second strongest since a Bush was voted out of office. Or since the policies Bush reversed were enacted.
Defending Bush’s economic record is just a lie too far for Karl Rove. He can’t help contradicting himself. This is unusual.
October 26th, 2008 at 4:27 pmSounds like Arizona needs to get rid of both of their idiot Senators.
All of these Republicans sound like the Hoover defenders when Roosevelt was making his run for the White House.
Funny how history repeats itself, eh?
Too bad most people do not learn from it, or (trickle)Tinkle-down economics would have never been experienced again, and we wouldn’t be headed for the worst recession since the Great Depression now.
I give it 8-12 more years and the dumbass American voters will be forgetting their history lessons again and vote these “fiscally responsible” Republicans clowns back in again and the crap will start all over.
October 26th, 2008 at 4:28 pmSomeone please prove me wrong.
Over at electoral-vote.com, it’s Obama-375 McCain-157!
October 26th, 2008 at 4:28 pmAnd in other news, the US just attacked Syria!
Do you think there’s any chance that these last months of the Outrageous Lie-o-Meter pegging off the scale will prove to more people how sorry their tv ‘news’ is ?
Don’t think so – there is no real competition, so they can continue to “catapult the propaganda” and create an echo-chamber.
Sure, many will “tune out”, but the repug/neocon bias is structural. In many ways, this bias is even more effective when we think we see through it.
The real answer is to organize peaceful economic boycotts of the corpocracy that underwrites the entire sham. The owners of the MSM decided a long time ago that their media assets were more valuable as tools for propaganda instead of competing for viewers and advertisers with a free market.
5 global corporations control 80+ percent of the media. Do you think they care if we tune out?
October 26th, 2008 at 4:29 pmFirst Palin doesn’t know what the VP does, not Kyl doesn’t know what POTUS does??? I mean, other than control the Treasury Dept, have a significant say in the running of the Fed (I know it’s not official, but who are we f*ing kidding here?), control of the largest single consumer in the world, the U.S. military, and POTUS doesn’t run the economy???
Is he F*ING KIDDING ME???
October 26th, 2008 at 4:31 pmRepublican economic traitors: Greenspan, Bush, McCain and Gramm. They all have been happily deregulating our financial system. Heck of a job, morons…
October 26th, 2008 at 4:32 pmLet’s see if he continues to say that after 4 years of an Obama administration. If the economy gets better, the Market Works. If it gets worse, it’s President Obama’s fault.
October 26th, 2008 at 4:33 pmrobert.waldmann, that sounded contradictory to me too at first but he meant:
In recent years, we have had the second largest economic growth in the history of the country.
I don’t know if that is true. But I do know that the benefits have not gone to the vast majority of Americans—only the largest corporations and the richest people. And it was done by increasing the debt by 5 TRILLION dollars.
October 26th, 2008 at 4:38 pmright, that’s why the president creates economic policy and has economic advisers. by the way, did that waahhhhpublican actually go on the television and claim bush pushed for more (like he didn’t DE-regulate everything under the sun) regulation? ohhhh, no he didn’
October 26th, 2008 at 4:39 pmBush isn’t to blame for anything. 9/11 was Clinton’s fault. New Orleans was God’s. The depression will be Obama’s.
October 26th, 2008 at 4:42 pmsatirev @ 23: As for dimwit Kyl, when does his term expire?
Kyl is “Class 1″, 2007 – 2013.
October 26th, 2008 at 4:45 pmUsing Republican logic, I have worked out a syllogism proving that the economy is booming. I thought this might make us all feel better:
Tax cuts for the rich and deregulation make the economy boom.
The Republicans got us tax cuts for the rich and deregulation.
Therefore, the economy is booming.
The Mess We’re In:
October 26th, 2008 at 4:50 pmhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OiBWkNFtrEg
Of course if the economy was in great shape,and we have no debt,employment is good, Kyle will be the first to give all the credit to Bush and his Republican Party.
But now things are bad…so bad that the government was asked to rescue the Wall Street giant companies and bankers, at the same time when Bush and McCain were saying that everything is just fine few weeks before the bail out .
It was the largest sum of money this government or any government ever had to pay.
Kyle and Republicans see what’s coming in November 4th,and he is trying to say that the administration has nothing to do with the economy.
If things were better , Kyle who has been a Bush supporter from day one will be now bragging and giving Bush the credit for the good economical picture.
Whom Kyle is trying to fool..?
October 26th, 2008 at 4:51 pmBack to hell, you GOP demon, back to hell!
October 26th, 2008 at 4:56 pmstep up to the plate kyl, admit your tin idol in the white house not only destroyed the economy in this country but, has gone global. incompetent boobs one and all of em.
October 26th, 2008 at 4:58 pmHis tax rates being lower actually helped for six years create the second largest economic growth that we’ve had in the history of the country in recent years.
He calls spending a huge surplus and putting us a trillion dollars in debt “the second larges economic growth”. What is that man smoking?
October 26th, 2008 at 5:15 pmToo bad Kyl isn’t up for re-election. I would love to see him defeated the same as John McCain is going to be defeated.
October 26th, 2008 at 5:18 pmThe latest meme coming from the Republicans is the “danger” of the Democrats controlling Washington by controlling both houses of congress and the Presidency. Let’s just look at the record for a minute:
There was one-party rule by the Republicans for 12 years: 1921 though Jan. of 1933 (Presidents Harding, Coolidge and Hoover). There was one-party rule by the Democrats for 12 years Jan. of 1933 (FDR) through the end of Truman’s first term in 1949. The Great Depression began in 1929 (at the beginning of Hoover’s presidency), began a recovery after FDR came into office, and didn’t officially end for 10 years in 1939.
There was one-party rule for six years under GW Bush and we began to see the movement toward recession in 2005. And we now have a global meltddown.
Test question: How is one-party rule under Republicans vs. one-party rule under Democrats different? Which is the most dangerous to have concentrated power historically?
October 26th, 2008 at 5:29 pmI’m sure Kyl doesn’t even realize what he said makes no sense.
October 26th, 2008 at 5:31 pmThe Democracy of America Is On It’s Way Home!
by Sharon Jenson
98% of reason is unconscious. The Democratic Party has always been honest enough to believe that if you present the facts, the American public will reasonably, logically see the sense in their ideals. The Republican party does not waste time presenting honest fact to the American public. They instead use simplified sound bytes and verbiage that appeal to and can be easily recognized by simple and sometimes vacant conscience minds. Therefore, the American public must work harder to concentrate on logic and ignore their natural tendency to be somewhat lazy. They must remember reason and logic are unconscious. Corporations have researched this theory for years with the help from psychological professors who have studied the brain and clever advertising. Corporations have invested in various levels of expertise and adjusted their marketing strategies accordingly.
Donald Rumsfeld, former Bush Administration Secretary of State, spent time making agreements with Iraq in the 1980’s and he did so on Reagan’s behalf. He, and the white house, had information from Iran about Iraq’s chemical warfare. But in the years leading up to Rumsfeld’s meeting with Saddam Hussein, Reagan ignored Iran’s plea for help. Although it was against the Geneva laws to use chemical warfare, the U.S. chose not to assist Iran with this issue. Instead, other countries did provide help to Iran, recognizing the Geneva laws. The U.S. chose instead, to recognize the financial benefit of protecting Iraq, due to their massive oil capability. This not only contributed to personal wealth for the Bush Administration, but gave them insight they would later utilize while plotting to invade Iraq after 9/11. Prior knowledge of Iraq’s unlawful use of chemical warfare and massive oil holdings clearly shows a transparent motive for the Bush Administration’s persistent and persuasive invasion of Iraq after 9/11.
This, combined with both Bush and Cheney being in the business of oil themselves, was all the reason they needed to invade a country having absolutely nothing to do with 9/11 or Osama Bin Laden. Despite their unruly use of chemical warfare, the Reagan Administration essentially supported Saddam by ignoring Iran’s need for help. Time and again, under a Republican Administration so closely tied to one another and to oil, the U.S. smells of greed and a clear desire to keep the oil pumping. Reagan instead increased military protection in Iraq; not for it’s people but for its oil assets. Iraq praised Rumsfeld during Reagan’s time in office. Little did they know that Rumsfeld would later support an invasion of their country to take their only natural resource from them.
This would not be easy. But post 9/11, America wanted revenge and the well-informed and very greedy Bush Administration acted swiftly. They seized the opportunity to invade Iraq by building a convincing case. They produced false evidence and used Colin Powell to present it to and sell it to America. Rumsfeld immediately started a media campaign that would include radio, internet, print, and network news. He would plant seeds in the minds of shocked and vulnerable Americans that Iraq was the new enemy and that Saddam Hussein was the new target.
There was a young Governor, later a Senator, who strongly opposed the Iraq war when it was unpopular to do so. Barack Obama voted against the war. Sorry Obama, it didn’t matter anyway because Bush didn’t follow the Constitution of the United States; nor did he listen to anyone who told him the inspections were not yet complete. He, and his staff, acted quickly when they saw the opportunity. This is the worst abuse of power, example of greed, and destructive capitalism that only the Republican Party could commit.
For any “undecided” voters out there, Barack Obama has studied constitutional law, respects it, and is not interested in abusing a position of power for financial gain. In addition, those who surround him have no ties or interest in Iraq’s oil either. It is safe to assume that his Democratic belief that the United States of America needs some immediate attention, is shared by many. Please vote. Get a receipt. If any county or state voting procedures even attempt to flip votes, turn voters away, or ignore every American’s right to vote, Obama will be ready. He knows the law. He already has 9,000 attorneys in places that are expected to have trouble. There will be no more stolen elections, hacked Diebold and ES&S voting machines, or greedy politicians who will stop at nothing to remain in power. This is widely known among key players in Washington. This has directly contributed to the decline of the stock market. The higher Obama’s numbers get in the polls, the lower the numbers get on Wall Street.
That said, our financial crisis goes far deeper than Republicans selling stock because they know the Administration is about to change. There is a mortgage crisis, and a housing crisis, and we are still paying too much for oil. Our troops are still losing their lives in Iraq for protecting oil. However, we have reason to be hopeful. No longer will the wealthy be getting wealthier from the majority of American needs (ie: gas, soap from Wal-Mart, prescriptions, and health care). There is nothing wrong with capitalism. Never do I suggest a strict socialist society should only be allowed to exist. Make your money corporate America, please! But not from our basic needs. America is more informed and if you attempt to, for example, privatize clean, safe drinking water, we will rise and revolt! Don’t GO there.
Concentrate instead on investing in industry that would be beneficial to not only our country but our planet, like clean, renewable energy. Think outside the box and be resourceful. Go back to the drawing board because Obama is coming whether you like it or not. Regulation is necessary just as laws are. No one should be allowed to walk into a bank with a gun and shoot those inside for the purpose of stealing money that does not belong to them. That, like many other crimes, is clearly against the law and for good reasons. So too should regulations and yes, laws exist to prevent America from hurting itself.
We the people will seek to balance our country and restore what we have. We will work hard, pay our taxes, and never again allow those in power to lie to us and take advantage of our busy middle-class lifestyles. We are watching now, tapping in to reason and logic, seeking alternatives to corporate-owned media, and keeping the faith.
sources:
October 26th, 2008 at 5:33 pmcspan.com “America and the Courts”
“Murder, Spies & Voting Lies”
http://www.StealingAmerica.org
http://www.BradBlog.com
“The Corporation”
http://www.Linktv.org
http://www.BlackBoxVoting.org
http://www.usdoj.gov
We must forgive Kyl, he forgot the Republican mantra: “it’s Clinton’s fault”. He’ll be summarily drummed out of the GOP if he doesn’t shape up and quickly.
October 26th, 2008 at 5:33 pm@ impeachcheneythenbush
I’m sorry but your analysis makes too much sense … please try again.
October 26th, 2008 at 5:33 pmAs for the U.S. raid on Syria, more can be found at the Jerusalem Post:
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1225036811746&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull
October 26th, 2008 at 5:34 pmIf Bush, as president, had promoted the retention of jobs in the U.S. (instead of tax breaks for those who shipped them offshore), had not meddled in the Middle East (instead of starting at least two (2) wars and disrupting the economies of the area), had observed honest diplomacy throughout the world instead of the cowboy variety, had appointed legitimate, competent cabinet heads that had freedom and ability to oversee their responsibilities, then and only then would we not be in this god-awful mess.
October 26th, 2008 at 5:34 pmClinton’s fault.
Democratic Congress.
etc.
BTW – besides Fannie Mae, don’t forget Mission (Nothing) accomplished. Gas prices that doubled. ect.
October 26th, 2008 at 5:36 pmBefore the last election (in October 2006), Bush said:
Government has got to be careful about the regulations it passes. We’ve got to be careful about the number of lawsuits that threaten these young companies. Government can do well at helping to team up with private corporations to enhance capital flows. But the strength of this economy depends upon the strength of the small business sector.
We’ve added a lot of jobs since August of 2003, 6.6 million new jobs. And that’s a result of small businesses growing and expanding. I was just talking to Tim. He’s got 30 employees. That’s up from zero five years ago. It’s really enlightening and encouraging for me to talk to these hard-working people.
One of the interesting things about our economy that’s also important is that as the economy has grown, the real wages for American workers has increased. Last year it increased by 2.2 percent. That’s the largest increase in recent years. And that’s important, because not only does it mean the small businesses are doing well, it means our working families are doing well.
Bush was talking with billionaire Bob Johnson. That’s what he considers a small business owner.
October 26th, 2008 at 5:42 pmSharon Jenson: The higher Obama’s numbers get in the polls, the lower the numbers get on Wall Street.
Wrong. The collapse of financial institutions caused the stock market to crash and Obama’s numbers to go up. This makes a hell of a lot more sense than your explanation.
October 26th, 2008 at 5:49 pmMcCain’s retiring in 2010 (however crotchety he may be, the GOP will “suggest he step aside”) and will hopefully be replaced by Raul Grijalva or Gabrielle Giffords. When 2012 rolls around, Arizona should send Ann Kirkpatrick (also known as the Dem in the race to succeed the corrupt assclown Rick Renzi).
Electoral demographics are changing in the southwest; expect to see many more fiscally conservative-socially progressive Dems getting electing from AZ, NM, NV, CO in the next few years
October 26th, 2008 at 5:55 pmI am sick unto death of nattering nabobs, which seems to be most of the Corporate crony Republican politicians and their multi millionaire corporate propagandists like Rush, O’Really! and Hannity. Are they really hell bent on destroying America down to the last blade of grass and the last child?
October 26th, 2008 at 6:01 pmSharon Jenson,
October 26th, 2008 at 6:12 pmSome evidence that Obama is not a Marxist that financial institutions are afraid of, some the top donors to Obama:
Goldman Sachs &748,000
JPMorgan Chase $493,000
Citigroup $467,000
UBSAIG $423,000
Lehman Brothers $394,000
KYL: George Bush doesn’t run the economy. He didn’t create this problem. His tax rates being lower actually helped for six years create the second largest economic growth that we’ve had in the history of the country in recent years. … The President doesn’t run the economy.
Yeah , okay.
The party of “personal responsibility” does it again ; when everything in their eyes is wonderful , it’s all due to the miracle known as the GOP.
When anything/everything turns to shit , they had nothing to do with it …………….
October 26th, 2008 at 6:13 pm“If his tax cuts had an impact on the economy, then the argument that he has no blame due him is absurd.”
welcome to the world of republican talking points…where cognitive dissonance is just business as usual…
October 26th, 2008 at 6:15 pmrepugs, ugggh!
chimpy wasn’t responsible for the US decline either. Rain isn’t wet.
I heard mcchimpy say, during his speach today, that Sen. Obama either voted for or against tax increases 94% of the time.
I know that’s right.
October 26th, 2008 at 6:16 pmI’d love to see this guy go down with mcinsane. Make our day, mr kyle.
October 26th, 2008 at 6:40 pmThe President doesn’t run the economy.
Presidential candidate John McCain is running from the economy.
October 26th, 2008 at 6:51 pmIt never matters that a Republican talking point might be contradictory. If they say it, and keep repeating it, their base will believe it.
October 26th, 2008 at 6:57 pmof course chimpy doesn’t run the economy 0 he is too drunk and stoned
October 26th, 2008 at 7:06 pmInterestingly, Middull Murkins don’t seem to mind income redistribution UPWARDS. They don’t mind if the rich get richer off their ‘labors.’
They just don’t want any poor, or brown, people to get richer.
Go figger…
October 26th, 2008 at 7:17 pmSo when the economy’s doing well, it’s because of the President’s policies. When the economy tanks, it’s got nothing to do with him. Yeah. That’s kind of like when the economy’s doing well it’s because unrestricted markets “work” and financial plutocrats should get all the benefits, but when the market tanks, let’s not point fingers, bail them out, help we need socialism!
Here’s the problem: the rest of us have been assuming that we live in one world that should consistently follow the same logic in good times and bad. Apparently there are two worlds – one for good times, when the President’s policies get all the credit and the wealthy get showered with the proceeds of the market, and another when the market blows up it’s got nothing to do with the President and the government needs to bail out the plutocrats. Night and day. Black and white. Yin and yang.
We just need to learn how to live in their bipolar world and everything will be just fine.
October 26th, 2008 at 7:30 pmGeorge Bush doesn’t run the economy, he destroys the economy.
George Bush doesn’t run the White House, he destroys the White House.
George Bush doesn’t do anything, he destroys everything.
October 26th, 2008 at 7:42 pm> I’m sure Kyl doesn’t even realize
> what he said makes no sense.
I doubt he realizes much of anything, if he does, he wouldbt be calling himself republican these days…
McPlain ‘08…because this time, two wrongs CAN make a right..
October 26th, 2008 at 8:07 pmFirst, everything this nitwit says absolutely shoots down his own comments. A true Republican! Second, isn’t it incredible how Repubs fault Dems for any financial mess, because Bush doesn’t control the economy. What? Bush/Cheney, etc. have destroyed the U.S. economy for 8 years, culminating in deregulation that is possibly going to destroy the country. This is Bush/Cheney’s doings. Don’t let them fool you or distract you from the fact they caused all this. And McCain is just another Bush. McCain = tax cuts for the rich, more taxes for the middle class/poor. McCain is fraudulent & keeps misrepresenting Obama’s platform (not his “planks”, as Palin responds, you betcha, wink-wink. And where is my daughter’s designer bag? Palin laments).
October 26th, 2008 at 8:13 pmYes, I may have wandered, but Palin is so bloody annoying & stupid on so many levels.
October 26th, 2008 at 8:14 pm60 MINUTES had a report on this tonight…
chalked it up to the Commodity Futures Modernization Act…
the last hurrah of the 106th Congress, 2000…
guess this pronouncement from kyl absolves clinton…
kinds puts a kink into all the righty excuses lately…
…
oh, and, there’s this new news:
What could lie behind Syria raid?
BBC News – 2 hours ago
By Jonathan Marcus Syria has said American troops carried out a raid inside Syria along the Iraqi border, killing eight people – if the claims are true then this will be the first military incursion by the US into Syrian territory from Iraq.
Syria condemns ‘US aggression’ after cross-border raid Times Online
US Kills Eight in Syria, Syrian News Service Says (Update1) Bloomberg
The Associated Press – Xinhua – Washington Times – Telegraph.co.uk
all 862 news articles »
http://news.google.com/?ncl=1262886339&hl=en&topic=h
great…
October 26th, 2008 at 8:37 pmWHOA!! Considering that I live in AZ…I have always said that neither McCain OR Kyl ever did anything for the state….aren’t I happy now! Don’t touch a thing, and let your time run out, Senator.You’re clueless. Just like the other one from AZ.
October 26th, 2008 at 8:39 pmoh, and Credit Default Swaps…
October 26th, 2008 at 8:40 pmaccording to the 60 minute report…
I thought Bush’s grand policy of cutting taxes for the have mores filthy rich was supposed to create more jobs….
I am not sure what one is to expect when we cut taxes for the rich, start illegal wars, trust the deregulated banking industry and allow corporations to ship jobs over seas while foreign goods come in tariff free.
I would say this is an on purpose crap job to our country and the gangsters in the white house responsible for this have committed treason.
October 26th, 2008 at 8:44 pmIf the economy is good, it’s the GOP’s presisent’s great policies, if the economy sucks, the president?????
Let’s see if Senator Kyl will say the same in an Obama administration.
The senate is filled with such stupid asshatty people.
October 26th, 2008 at 8:59 pmGuido the Loving OBGYN Says:
Republicans don’t create jobs.
___________
Oh, I don’t know about that…
Larry Craig seemed to be giving them in restrooms everywhere.
October 26th, 2008 at 9:32 pmKyl:
October 26th, 2008 at 9:51 pm“It is Joe the Plumber who is in charge,and if you don’t believe me, just ask McCain and Sarah”.
Why on earth is Kyl wasting his breath of George Bush. Bush is responsible for everything bad that has happened to our nation and Kyl is an co-conspirator. He stuck his head in the ground and allowed those who orchestrated his illegitimate ascension to the throne wreak havoc on our nation and the world.
It will be fitting to see Bush and his co-conspirators tried for war crimes. Such prosecution will help rebuild the confidence of the world when they see that we will do the right thing, even if it means sending our president to jail.
October 26th, 2008 at 9:52 pmKyl ~ the man has no shame shilling for the destructor of our American Way of Life.
A tossup which AZ senator is a bigger fool.
October 26th, 2008 at 10:06 pmHe doesn’t run it. He ruins it!
October 26th, 2008 at 10:09 pmanyone who spends trillions on a criminal war ruins the economy
October 26th, 2008 at 10:11 pmI am sure that we will one day learn that the events of the last 8 years were ALL Clinton’s fault!
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