You’re a HOOT at #132.

Sure is interesting that Salman Pak would be a facility used for counter-terrorism when the people using it were NON-IRAQI’s (read terrorists) training to take over aircraft with box cutters! The facility was top-secret and staffed by Iraqis, but the Iraqis WERE NOT training there.

You make me laugh.

As far as Mohammed Atta’s meeting in Prague is concerned, the Czechs stand by their intelligence and assert that the meeting did indeed take place. If memory serves me, the 9-11 commission language didn’t deny it, just said there wasn’t enough evidence to say it happened with 100% certainty.

Again, I get a lot of chuckles reading your posts.

At what point in history have the progressives ever oppressed the conservatives in the way that conservatives and reactionaries are more than willing to oppress everyone else?

How oxymoronic of them.

Why did they try to hide everything?

If, as most of you contend, the President lied then had to have known that pre-war intelligence was completely false and unreliable. This was simply not the case and no amount of saying it was doesn’t make it so!
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Um hey a$$hat, Senator Dick Durbin who was part of the intelligence commitee who were brought into the Whitehouse and shown the “intelligence” reports by the Bushites and said a couple of years later that everyone in the meeting that day knew the evidence was weak and cherry picked but Durbin went on to say that he nor any of the other senators in the meeting could say anything publically under the threat of prison due to the meeting being classified and a National Security risk. Your defense of our countries worst president and war criminal shows just how blind and ignorant you really are.

Most people do not realize the 911 Comission was never tasked to find out who did it. They were tasked to come-up with ways to fix the system from ever letting it happen again.

I should have said it is time to finally investigate the biggest crime in U.S. history.

The reason why half this country does not believe 19 arab young men learned how to fly airliners, took over 4 aircraft with nothing but box cutters, successfully attacked 3 out of 4 targets in the most heavily defended airspace on the face of the earth with no help from the ground defeating the FBI, CIA, Law Enforcement, Norad and the US Air Force is that the story is unbelievable.

Further, 3 steel frame buildings completely collapsing into their own footprints at free fall speeds due to fire goes against fundamental laws of physics. Fire has never done this to a steel framed building ever yet we are to believe it happened three times on 911. Hell, one of the buildings, tower 7 was never hit by an aircraft.

When the government releases the extensive tape of the so called airliner hitting the Pentagon then maybe I will start believing the Bush administration. Go to the video and pictures that day and ask yourself where is the wreckage? Where are the engines, bodies and why was the hole in the side of the building so small?

We now know the Anthrax sent to the Liberal Senators and liberal news stations came from a US lab and not Al Queda.

Me thinks it is time to investigate this war criminal administration and their involvement in the most horriffic crime in the history of this country.

We alrady know the lied about Iraq, yellow cake, and outing a US spy.

Bush supporters or so called trolls or Dittoheads have been hypnotised by hate radio and need to be de-programmed by exposing to them the real truth.

Re-Investigate 911!

thank you! you do us all a great service by opening the forum to these discussions.

NOT yelling at you, here, but the implication is either as
misshusseinmolly said above (the buildings were pre-set with demolitions to take them down): which is pretty insane, and in itself would be a HUGE security flaw. Or you propose that in a very, very short time after the first strike that demolitions were brought into each building and set. The problem with the second scenerio is that to properly calculate and set demolitions to bring down such buildings it takes considerable time to plan and to properly set such demolitions. Up to weeks to plan such an event, and at least days to set the charges.

Now, full-blown “inside job” or complicit ignorance (ala Pearl Harbor), one or the other must be true. Far too many things had to go WRONG for this to have happened as it did.

To claim that the series of events that allowed this were “just an unfortunate series of coincidences” is actually much more difficult to believe than that there was some measure of inside complicity to the atacks which aided them in succeeding. And it is certainly NO MORE a stretch of the imagination to believe that these events were orchestrated than to believe that such a ludicrous series of coincidental failures occurred at PRECISELY the right moment to allow these attacks to succeed. Really.

OK, this is an interesting theory, and one I haven’t heard before — that the WTC was preset for controlled demolition just in case something like this would happen.

If your theory is true, this means that for years, the WTC was wired with explosives, “just in case”. Presumably, any other building or structure that terrorists may have their eye on is also wired with explosives — the Empire State Building, the Sears Tower, etc. This would create a significant hazard for those who occupy these buildings — surely the fire departments in these areas aren’t happy about this (and it would be hard to keep this a secret from them, since they inspect these buildings regularly). Furthermore, the possibility of having any of these explosives go off accidentally is pretty significant. Can you imagine the PR nightmare as the questions rise about why demolition explosives are detonating in our skyscrapers?

Also, who made the decision to kill 3,000 to save 10,000? Such a decision — especially when our nation is under attack — would be made by the POTUS. And we saw that Bush was staring glassy-eyed in an elementary school classroom holding a copy of “My Pet Goat”.

9/11 WAS AN INSIDE JOB!

Ok this is way off topic but I have had enough of these windbag pyote dreams.

Bullpucky. 9/11 was the direct result of stupidity, lack of common sense, a sense of entitlement, poor judgement, an inability to read, and lack of education.

The Bush administartion was and still is too stupid to have put together something like that. Also if it were true we would have heard something about it by now given all the chickenhawks bailing ship and ratting on GW and his dishonest crew. Just think Scott McClellan for a second.

Want a real possibility for 9/11 try this:

In 1993 Al-Qaeda tried to topple the WTC Tower one over onto Tower two. The tried to blow out the supporting beam structure to make it fall over side ways. They were also hoping to knock over tower two. I don’t think it takes too much intelligence to determine that Al-Qaeda might try this again. It also doesn’t take much intelligence to think we just dodged a bullet and we need to do something about it right now so we are prepared in case they manage to pull this off again. DO YOU REALLY THINK NOONE NOTICED THE KIND OF DAMAGE THAT WOULD HAVE HAPPENED TO DOWNTOWN MANHATTAN IF THE TWO TOWERS FELL OVER SIDEWAYS AND DESTROYED HALF OF DOWNTOWN MANHATTAN. If you do you are as simple as GW was!

So what would be the logical result. The best thing you can do to stop two 110 story towers from falling sideways is to demolish them under control and have them fall in their own footprint. Sound familiar? Watch the CNN tapes. The first tower starts to fall sideways and then the bottom falls out from it.

Take an overhead scale view of downtown Manhattan and superimpose a 110 story building, lying on it’s side across downtown Manhattan. Then do it a second time for the other tower. Now add all the people in the WTC tower and all the NYC citizens in all the streets and buildings across lower Manhattan. And that doesn’t take in to account the lose of businesses and having downtown Manhattan shut down for moths and maybe years! How much of a financial catastrophe would that have caused.

Now do you not think that it makes sense that they set those two buildings up for controlled demolition just based on that information alone. David Ray Griffin, for such an educated person, cannot see the forest for the trees.

It is better to sacrifice 3500 to save 10,000 more. And as bad as that sounds put yourself in the position of having to make that call and see if you would! That is what the government does. Makes hard ugly decisions about who lives or dies. It’s just a shame that that decision came from the stupidity of the turdblossom in chief.

I have plenty more common sense debunks for this crap and the official conspiracy theory. The government doesn’t want to cop to any of this because they think you will hate them for it and they will lose power plain and simple.

Now get over the stupid INSIDE JOB idiot theory. GW and his Admin got caught with their pants down, by Al-Qaeda, plain and simple. Then they did what they had to do to minimize the casualties. Then they lied there asses off about what they did in order to hold power. And that disinformation is why YOU THINK THE US GOVERNMENT ATTACKED ITS OWN COUTRY AND CITIZENS.

Sounds a lot more common sense than the US government planning and perpetrating this whole thing.

Get a grip and think clearly.

Fact #1

In order to lie, a person must know that what they are saying is in fact untrue.

If, as most of you contend, the President lied then had to have known that pre-war intelligence was completely false and unreliable. This was simply not the case and no amount of saying it was doesn’t make it so!

Tim first of all you should stop talking long enough for someone else to say something. Second after 935 assertions that turned out to be not true makes GW Bush look like an uninformed uneducated Turdblossom if his staff could fool him 935 times.

Get a friggin real arguement will ya. All you are doing is shifting the assertion he lied over to an assertion he was an IDIOT> Both of which happen to be true.

Remember which Ahole ignored the GOOD intelligence about Al-Qaeda attacking inside the US. God who woul;d have thunk that would happen.

First off get a memory. Second make a decent arguement.