On his radio show yesterday, far right talker Bill Cunningham — who Sean Hannity considers a “great American” — claimed that people who are poor in America are not poor “because they lack money.” “They’re poor because they lack values, morals, and ethics,” said Cunningham. Listen here:
This is the second day in a row that Cunningham has verbally attacked the poor. On his Monday show, he declared, “Among the so-called noble poor in America…[b]irth control is not used so illegitimate children can be brought into the world, so the mom can get more checks in the mail from the government.”
Yeah sure that must be it.
October 29th, 2008 at 8:03 pmNo class warfare here folks. Nothing to see. Just move on…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OiBWkNFtrEg
October 29th, 2008 at 8:08 pmCunningham: ‘People are poor in America…because they lack values, morals, and ethics.’»
– - Jesus was poor. Ergo….
October 29th, 2008 at 8:10 pmBy Cunningham’s logic, he is nowhere near as moral or ethical as Bill Gates, Warren Buffet, and George Soros.
October 29th, 2008 at 8:12 pmThey got more cash. Therefore they are better people.
republicans hate facts:
October 29th, 2008 at 8:15 pmThe people in my life that I have learned the most from and that I have the most respect for have been people who have had the least. I trust the same is true for you. This man is both a fool and a jackass
Best-
OT but a must see , bush is attempting to pass a pardon for himself for war crimes .
October 29th, 2008 at 8:18 pmhttp://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article21113.htm
*Groan* Why even bother commenting on nonsense like this. Ok, back to watching Obama’s 30-minute ad…
October 29th, 2008 at 8:21 pmPlease e mail or write your representatives NOW and tell them not to pass this bill and to investigate the allegations of war crimes by the Bush admonistration !!!!
October 29th, 2008 at 8:22 pmLet me get this straight — lack of morals, values and ethics is cause of poverty – righ? I guess I’m missing something because there sure seem to be a whole lot of wealthy Republicans who are nothing short of the collective embodiment of those three traits.
Just saying . . .
October 29th, 2008 at 8:24 pmThe vote in the senate is tommorrow !The house has already passed this bill !
October 29th, 2008 at 8:28 pmConsidering the Republican induced free fall of the middle class, Cunningham has a lot Americans to criticize.
October 29th, 2008 at 8:29 pmGOT JUSTICE ?
October 29th, 2008 at 8:29 pmDON’T LET BUSH PARDON HIMSELF TOMMORROW WITHOUT A FIGHT !!!
October 29th, 2008 at 8:30 pmhttp://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article21113.htm
F uck you, Cunningham.
October 29th, 2008 at 8:37 pmweren’t you doing some sort of O thing?
October 29th, 2008 at 8:41 pmho-hum, will this assclown please explain why people like stevens got the money but and now convicts due to immoral, unethical and illegal actions?
October 29th, 2008 at 8:41 pmAs for being poor… the Palins must be poverty-stricken considering that other people have to build their houses and buy their clothes and pay transportation costs.
And the Palins keep producing illegitimate children for the $3200 check each and every one of them gets from the federal government.
Poor? Or redneck trash?
No education, so all the girls can do is make babies and collect their checks. Sarah was preggers when she eloped with Todd. 17 year-old Bristol is on arguably her second child, by unknown father. The other kids aren’t in school… pressed into service as baby-sitters.
If*I* was a Health or Social Worker, I’d be steaming mad at the way those children are treated. And Sarah would have those kids taken away and put into proper homes where they’d get attention, love, and schooling… a chance to learn something other than diaper duty.
And this is the Republican Role Model and Shrine to Motherhood?
When they clean up their own moral failings, they can instruct us. Not until.
October 29th, 2008 at 8:44 pm“They’re poor because they lack values, morals, and ethics.”
Explain republicans and corporate executives, then.
October 29th, 2008 at 8:44 pmanYBODY HOME ?
October 29th, 2008 at 8:46 pmhauksdottir Says:
“When they clean up their own moral failings, they can instruct us. ”
coming from the party of moral relativism wouldn’t hold your breath
October 29th, 2008 at 8:47 pmI’m glad Bill cleared that up I thought he was talking about the Republican and Democrat Law Makers with their record of stealing, lying, molestion, looking for sex in the men’s room, values, morals and ethics. Now the Queen of lack of Ethics is Sarah Palin. History was made when the White House had to have a class for all staff to learn Ethics. Now most Americans learn that lesson as children as our parents taught us that. I guess Law Makers either forgot or weren’t taught that lesson at home.
October 29th, 2008 at 8:49 pmThose that feel the need to discuss their values, morals, and ethics rarely have any…
October 29th, 2008 at 8:49 pmIf that’s so, then why are there so many people with no ethics, morals, or values who are filthy rich??
Really. Why? How?
October 29th, 2008 at 8:52 pmWill we never be rid of these degenerate blightwing connedserfaturds?
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October 29th, 2008 at 8:53 pmThis moron is the reason that the people of Cincinnatti are boycotting every business, every product that is advertized on Clear Channel stations until Rush the pill popping drug addict, and the senile old fart Bill is off the air with this garbage
October 29th, 2008 at 9:04 pmhttp://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article21113.htm
October 29th, 2008 at 9:06 pmplease help stop thib bill NOW !!!!!!!!!!!
Jesus was poor.
October 29th, 2008 at 9:08 pmBill Cunningham – another damn fool on the airwaves! Take away a person’s job and make it more difficult for them to find work and then acuse them of lacking values, morals and ethics.
This is so typical of these right-wing, extremist, immoral, con artists!
October 29th, 2008 at 9:12 pmPerhaps the cunning linguist should check his facts, people get poor because our education system fails us, they drop out of school and work minimum wage jobs, then get laid off while we spend 12 bil a month in a fruitless, illegal occupation.
October 29th, 2008 at 9:14 pmXisithrus Says:
Jesus was poor.
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And Cunningham is a flaming Nazi gasbag…
October 29th, 2008 at 9:19 pmI don’t know if it is an actual quote or one of those made up myths but Reagan said when asked if the war on poverty was over “yeah….the poor lost”
October 29th, 2008 at 9:19 pmIts apparent to me this person Cunningham is pro-robber baronism.
October 29th, 2008 at 9:20 pmXisithrus Says:
Jesus was poor.
October 29th, 2008 at 9:08 pm
Cunningham wouldn’t know anything about Jesus.
October 29th, 2008 at 9:21 pmMcCain needs 409,239 votes in seven states to win the election, whereas John Kerry needed 118,599 votes in Ohio:
http://voteforamerica.net/editorials/Comments.aspx?ArticleId=130&ArticleName=A+McCain+Victory+Requires...
Debunking the Bradley Effect, Again
http://voteforamerica.net/editorials/Comments.aspx?ArticleId=118&ArticleName=Debunking+the+Bradley+Effect%2c+Again
The Ultimate Guide To Senate Coattails
http://voteforamerica.net/editorials/Comments.aspx?ArticleId=128&ArticleName=Senate+Coattail+Coefficients+Continued
Obama 359, McCain 179
October 29th, 2008 at 9:28 pmhttp://voteforamerica.net/electoral.aspx
Even if he’s right, you just don’t say those sorts of things.
October 29th, 2008 at 9:31 pmMcCain knows how to pick em, huh? First Sarah and now Bill Cunningham. I’d say there is a serious lack of information on the part of one candidate–one candidate who truly hates America.
If you saw Obama tonight you know what a fraud McCain/Bush truly is. Only 6 days to go for the future of America. Unless they have the fix in already and too many aren’t paying attention. Shouldn’t there be laws about defrauding voters with false information? Election day is Nov. 4th everywhere. Class action suits need to be initiated immediately for anyone who is a citizen, a registered voter, and who is denied the right to vote.
October 29th, 2008 at 9:35 pmarco Says:
Even if he’s right, you just don’t say those sorts of things.
October 29th, 2008 at 9:31 pm
He’s not right, f uckwit.
October 29th, 2008 at 9:39 pmNow let’s see, Nikolai Tesla, who invented many of the things Edison took credit for, was a devout vegetarian who was taken for a ride by the less talented Edison and businessmen. He died in a hotel room in New York, taking care of sick pigeons, and was a loving man. One of the interesting conversations was he and Einstein. Tesla said the strongest force was in between atoms, and Einstein said it was inside the atom.
Look at MySpace some time, and see all of the incredibly talented, creative musicians that are unsigned and see how many boobs and idiots are making millions of dollars.
Another example would be the bank robbers that Obama, McCain, Republicans, and Democrats is giving our money to for the purpose of paying dividends to stock holders in said banks, as well as bonuses to executives. These are rich people with no morals whatsoever.
Conclusion:
There is ZERO corollary between money and morality. There are poor bums and there are rich bums. There are compassionate poor and compassionate rich.
October 29th, 2008 at 9:42 pmzooey are you there !I need some help finding the number on the senate bill supposedly to be voted on in the morning on the detention of detainees which would grant bush a pardon for war crimes … help
October 29th, 2008 at 9:43 pmANybody ?
Brain do you have any info on this bill ?
October 29th, 2008 at 9:44 pmhttp://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article21113.htm
October 29th, 2008 at 9:44 pmThis is beginning to seem like a twilight zone episode !
October 29th, 2008 at 9:46 pmanybody ?
So then that means that rich people have great values, morals, and ethics, right?
Excuse me while I laugh so hard I just might puke.
October 29th, 2008 at 9:47 pmWho ever refers to the “noble poor”, anyway? Typical wingnut, making up the argument to knock it down.
October 29th, 2008 at 9:48 pmtesting testing anybody out there ?
October 29th, 2008 at 9:49 pmfreeman Says:
OT but a must see , bush is attempting to pass a pardon for himself for war crimes .
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article21113.htm
Freeman, you’re two years to late. That bill passed in 2006, just prior to the Nov. 2006 elections. Look at the info scrolling underneath the screen.
October 29th, 2008 at 9:49 pmWhat ? its from an e mail dated today .
October 29th, 2008 at 9:50 pm“They’re poor because they lack values, morals, and ethics,” said Cunningham.
If this were true every big mouth Wingnut and Republican would be poor. These extremists are also sadly lacking ‘common sense’.
October 29th, 2008 at 9:50 pmFreeman, it was the Military Detainee Act of 2006. Abominable legislation. But the only hope now is to get it reversed.
October 29th, 2008 at 9:55 pmNow I’m sure this is the twilight zone .
October 29th, 2008 at 9:55 pmSorry — it’s actually called the Military Commissions Act (2006). Here’s info on it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_Commissions_Act_of_2006
October 29th, 2008 at 9:59 pmfreeman Says:
zooey are you there !I need some help finding the number on the senate bill supposedly to be voted on in the morning on the detention of detainees which would grant bush a pardon for war crimes … help
ANybody ?
October 29th, 2008 at 9:43 pm
All I’m finding is stuff two years old. The Senate is not in session right now, is it?
Sorry, I couldn’t find anything…
October 29th, 2008 at 9:59 pm“Among the so-called noble poor in America…[b]irth control is not used so illegitimate children can be brought into the world, so the mom can get more checks in the mail from the government.”
Sounds just like the republican base.
Too bad this idiot doesn’t realize he’s attacking a sizeable conservative demographic.
October 29th, 2008 at 9:59 pmdr. who where are you .
October 29th, 2008 at 10:00 pmI love Doctor Who. :-)
October 29th, 2008 at 10:01 pmzooey Thanx . I feel like an idiot as i also couldn’t find any stats on the bill, or mention of it in the blogosphere .
October 29th, 2008 at 10:02 pmI’m going to eat my cold dinner now .Uhhhggggg.
Crow .
October 29th, 2008 at 10:05 pmNo worries, freeman. Notice that none of us were all that surprised Bush might actually pull something like this. :)
October 29th, 2008 at 10:08 pmI’m going to repeat this one last time. It is actually the the Military Commissions Act (2006). Here’s info on it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/ wiki/ Military_Commissions_Act_of_2006
Freeman, the email you received was from someone who obviously misunderstand that simply because the clip was posted on You Tube today, it represented today’s events. The clip is two years old.
October 29th, 2008 at 10:20 pmWilly Cunningham is an idiot and always has been. He never changes.
October 29th, 2008 at 10:24 pmsome of the most unethical folks I know are not of the poor… just the opposite. One has to wonder how many people were stepped on to buy that too large home or car.
Bill Cunningham is the #1 worst… rates down there lower than Rush, savage or billo. Can not listen to him for more than 3 minutes.
October 29th, 2008 at 10:29 pmDo like we in Cincy do when it comes to the dwarf Willie Cunningham, ignore him. He’s our version of Pat Buchanan. Neither are right about anything, ever.
October 29th, 2008 at 10:32 pmSo that period of time when Rush Limbaugh was on unemployment, it was because he lacked values, morals, and ethics? Other than no longer being poor today, in what way has Rush Limbaugh changed?
October 29th, 2008 at 10:41 pmOT – wanted to post this before i forget… heard about on randi:
There’s only one place this vote should be decided:
ON THE DANCE FLOOR!
kinda funny… lighten up a bit…
October 29th, 2008 at 10:47 pmEveryone in America is poorer for having people like Cunningham in it.
October 29th, 2008 at 10:48 pmDid he just call Bible Spice’s unfortunate daughter the “noble poor”? Is he implying that said daughter got knocked up so she can collect welfare? I think we should send the GOP’s VP candidate a note about the vile things Mr. Cunningham is saying about her daughter.
October 29th, 2008 at 10:52 pmWhat goes on in the heads of these right wingers? Is it something they eat or drink? Absorb?
October 29th, 2008 at 10:54 pmHow do they manage to say things like this with a straight face — worse, why do they still have listeners?
they are SOOOOOOO afraid of change….
October 29th, 2008 at 11:04 pmOld saying:
Steal a little and you will go to jail,
Steal a lot and you will be a king.
And of course not every can be rich. Someone has to do clean the toilets.
October 29th, 2008 at 11:04 pmJust got here, and I was all in a panic there for a minute. Thanks Impeach for clearing that up. I feel like imitating Colbert and screaming “Military Commissions Act!” with my fist shaking in the air in anger. Oh I hope the days of letter writing about unconstitutional laws are over.
October 29th, 2008 at 11:05 pmHey what happened? I had no idea that overnight it had become 1843.
October 29th, 2008 at 11:07 pmhey my phone booth’s gone , i was sure i had parked it somewhere in this neighborhood .
October 29th, 2008 at 11:10 pmYou can work two jobs and still not be able to afford a house or send your kids to college.
October 29th, 2008 at 11:15 pmWhat’s wrong with that picture?
The haves exploit the have nots. Always have, always will.
Is that the moral, ethical and values this creep is talking about? Like Scrooge in Dickens’ Christmas Carol?
The repubics are a danger to America and her freedom.
October 29th, 2008 at 11:26 pmTonight, Obama had his 30 minute ad on 7 television stations nationwide. And right now, he’s holding a rally outside of Orlando, FL. It’s well past 11:00pm and there are 35,000 people at that rally!! Bill Clinton spoke, and he did a great job.
The idiots like Bill Cunningham and all those crazy people on the far right are fighting a losing battle. The thing they simply don’t understand and don’t accept is that their particular branch of our species is coming to an end, and another branch has evolved away from them and their kind. They are the people of the past. We are the people of the future.
October 29th, 2008 at 11:46 pmGuys…
The point here is, he’s saying that poor people have a choice to become rich. Thanks to this extreme capitalism, that is impossible.
October 29th, 2008 at 11:55 pmI hope Obama puts people like Cunningham and Limpballs in jail. We must silence the Right and destroy that movement. Only Democrats should be allowed to run.
October 30th, 2008 at 12:02 amNo, it’s because they lack hope, the same opportunities and resources, and they know they are playing by a different set of rules – rules that do not seem to apply to them. It’s not a level playing field. That’s the reality. They have to learn to survive one way or another. They know nobody is going to do anything to help them. They are on their own.
That doesn’t apply to absolutely everyone – some break through – but it certainly starts most people in the ‘poor’ category out behind the 8 ball..
How do you feel hope if you are invisible? How do you get help, believe in the possibility to ‘achieve the American Dream’, or be taken seriously when you have nothing?
Values, morals and ethics are not measured by how much money you have accumulated. They are measured by the choices you have made and how you have lived your life. Just look at George W. Bush and Dick Cheney.
October 30th, 2008 at 12:12 amThe argument is twisted. I would say extreme capitalism is the main reason why so many americans (rich or poor) are ’spiritually ill’. The rich are way too greedy (a sign of spiritual illness).
October 30th, 2008 at 12:15 amThe Elections almost OVER thank god
October 30th, 2008 at 12:38 amWow, how ugly can you get. These people need to be sent out to pasture. It’s time we become a giving caring nation once again.
October 30th, 2008 at 12:42 amI think someone on the traditional values right hasn’t been reading their bible. Cunningham might be interested in what Jesus had to say about the poor. http://straighttalkonmccain.blogspot.com/
October 30th, 2008 at 12:47 amIt’s typical for rich people to hate the poor. They often express hatred and contempt for the poor in their private gatherings. If poor people could hear what the rich say about them, they would hang them all.
October 30th, 2008 at 1:39 amPeople like this should just have heart attacks and die. Humanity no longer wants them. They are scum and don’t deserve the air that they breath.
October 30th, 2008 at 2:04 amI always wonder when the dumbass redneck poor white people in this country will finally get a goddamn clue, and rise up against the right-wing Republican elitists to whom they have sold their souls for the past 28+ years.
Oh yeah! I don’t have to wait any longer. Now, I can vote to save the poor slobs!
I’ll be there Tuesday!
October 30th, 2008 at 3:02 amrepublicanSScareme Says:
It’s typical for rich people to hate the poor. They often express hatred and contempt for the poor in their private gatherings. If poor people could hear what the rich say about them, they would hang them all.
I don’t know any rich people. I know a lot of middle class people.
Th middle class people I know fall into two basic groups on this issue:
Liberal Democratic middle class people tend to lump themselves with the poor on issues as far as wanting good jobs, health care, ect.
Right-wing Republican middle class people tend to hate the poor, detest themselves, and worship the elite uber-wealthy.
October 30th, 2008 at 3:11 am“You know, people are poor in America, Steve, not because they lack money; they’re poor because they lack values, morals, and ethics. And if government can’t teach and instill that, we’re wasting our time simply giving poor people money.”
October 30th, 2008 at 5:08 amCunningham is making his case for big government. Republicans denounce big government but secretly embrace the tenet that ordinary citizens require government micromanagement to assure national economic security.
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freeman,
Re: CODE ORANGE on posts #9, #11, #13, #16, #30, #33, #45, etc…
… Was the Crow pie good?
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October 30th, 2008 at 6:12 amThese blockheads cause shyte because their pockets count on it.
Being financial poor is caused by the greedy rich (what is it 1%?) a hierarchy. repugs tax, make deals, start self-serving wars, truck in tons of money to far away places to give away, decimate, loot a country blind and all with our tax dollars (well these assh keep the spoils as souvenirs.)
That’s a big problem with repugs, they believe our money is their play money.
These asshls repugs believe liberals are tax and spenders. Both parties tax but one party spends on making mankind better and the other spends to make mankind bitter.
BTW–One poster posted that MSNBC joe made her/him upset. I feel the same way. BBC is much much better, it’s like the realness of Sen. Obama.
Obama\Biden
October 30th, 2008 at 6:39 amWell, I’m poor because I just felt forced to quit my lousy job. Why? Long story, short because of a final racism straw that broke the camels back—watermelon pictures and How To Catch Obama, secretly shown to all the white folks. P.S. I’m white.
Couldn’t take it anymore.
October 30th, 2008 at 8:24 amDangerous. What is it with Xavier grads . . . he joins Boner and Bunning in his lack of tolerance.
October 30th, 2008 at 9:02 amCunningham is also ignorant. The Welfare Reform Act passed under Clinton limits the amount of time a woman and her children can be receiving welfare–about two years. If the woman becomes pregnant while receiving welfare, the new baby is NOT eligible.
hauksdottir
As a social worker, I am appalled as how the Palin children are being raised. Why are they not in school?!! Trig should be in an early intervention program which will stimulate him. I have worked with folks with Down Syndrome. Intervention makes all the different. They tote him around like some doll.
October 30th, 2008 at 9:19 amQuick — get Joe the Plumber for his reaction.
October 30th, 2008 at 10:17 amI would like to kick the ugly out of Cunningham but I would probably break my foot first.
October 30th, 2008 at 10:32 amyeah, and I am poor because my spouse’s job shipped to Mexico and China and they closed the factory, someone in Indiana WorkOne won’t get off their duffs and fork out the benefits we’ve paid for from the 15 plus years worked there and jumped through hoops to file for, we’re going to college and trying to send our oldest, too, and I have to work at a corporate restaurant just to make groceries and utilities because there are no jobs in our area that pay a living wage and we are competing with the 10,000 plus people also laid off from their jobs in the neighboring counties. And I have a degree and certificate. What an a$$hole.
October 30th, 2008 at 10:41 amCan someone explain why republicans hate poor people, and especially poor women?
October 30th, 2008 at 10:51 amone can’t really lack “ethics,” can one?
October 30th, 2008 at 12:28 pmor morals for that matter, either.
October 30th, 2008 at 12:28 pm‘People are poor in America…because they lack values, morals, and ethics.’
Certainly this lack describes some of the people in the U.S., and some of those people are poor and some are not.
Are TPers, those posting previous to bit’s post, saying that there are no consequences when some people lack values, morals, and ethics.
bit believes that Cunningham’s statement is accurate; however, bit doesn’t think all poor people who lack values, morals, and ethics are bad people. Though some are, bit’s experience is that most are just ignorant about values, morals, and ethics. No one taught them, and what they were taught, in many cases, was that behavior was without consequences and that belief was unimportant.
Many of the current generation receive their character development from http://www.charactercounts.com.
If people aren’t taught that they are accountable to God, then they’re simply not accountable to anyone or anything. It’s bit’s opinion that this is one of the unintended consequences of removing God from the public schools.
OTOH, there are those who do have values, morals, and ethics, and they chose to ignore them or they chose to use them against others.
Manipulating someone with their beliefs is reprehensible behavior.
October 30th, 2008 at 1:01 pmBit-a-stupid thinks Cunninghams statement is accurate because Bit-of-a-MORON is a soulless cretin without a shred of decency. When talking about any large groups some of them will lack morals that includes Christians, Rich people, Conservatives, Poor People, Muslims, and Liberals. No group is without its jerks. Though few are as meanspirited hatefilled and arrogant as Bit-o-idiocy. If you are trying to sell that Calvinist Crapola that poor people are being punished by God then you are several rungs lower than pondscum on the evolutionary ladder. Cunningham didnt say SOME poor people lack morals he said people are poor BECAUSE they lack morals which would mean all of them. So tell me did your soul just up and leave saying it was so out of here the first time you tortured a small animal to death about age four or did it slowly atrophy until it was mumified due to lack of use?
November 1st, 2008 at 4:46 am