ThinkFast: October 29, 2008
ThinkFast: October 29, 2008
Politico reports: “Two days after next week’s election, top conservatives will gather at the Virginia weekend home of one of the movement’s most prominent members to begin a conversation about their role in the GOP and how best to revive” the party. The meeting will include a “who’s who of conservative leaders.”
Recently convicted Sen. Ted Stevens (R-AK) “is asking the Justice Department to investigate the conduct of federal prosecutors” who prosecuted him. Stevens’s attorney has requested an investigation into “numerous, serious constitutional violations” by government prosecutors, alleging that his trial was “irretrievably tainted by the prosecution team’s zeal to convict a high-profile but innocent defendant.”
“After years of flooding Americans with credit card offers and sky-high credit lines, lenders are sharply curtailing both, just as an eroding economy squeezes consumers.” The move “threatens an already beleaguered banking industry with another wave of heavy losses after an era in which it reaped near record gains from the business of easy credit that it helped create.”
President Bush has transformed America’s federal appeals courts, “advancing a conservative legal revolution that began nearly three decades ago under President Ronald Reagan.” By Inauguration day, “Republican-appointed judges, most of them conservatives, are projected to make up about 62 percent of the bench” while controlling 10 of the 13 circuit courts.
Six days to go: John McCain will campaign with “Joe the Plumber” today in Miami, while Sarah Palin will be holding rallies in Bowling Green and Chillicothe, OH, as well as Jeffersonville, IN. Palin will also be giving a policy speech on energy in Toledo, OH. Barack Obama will be holding a rally in Raleigh, NC and another one with President Bill Clinton in Kissimmee, FL. He and Joe Biden will appear at a joint rally in Sunrise, FL, and Biden will also be in Jupiter, FL.
Sen. Ted Kennedy (D-MA) returned to his Washington residence yesterday, after spending the last six months at his home on Cape Cod battling brain cancer. Kennedy’s spokesperson “declined to speculate on when Kennedy might return to his full duties in the Senate,” but his return is “a sign that his treatments have been progressing well.”
U.S. commanders in Afghanistan now believe they need about 20,000 more troops to battle a growing Taliban insurgency, the Washington Post reports today. The recent troop requests reflect the struggles that the military is facing in the country, where overall attacks “are up about 25 percent from January to October this year, compared with the same period last year.”
Afghans are increasingly pessimistic about their country, according to a new Asia Foundation poll. Only 36 percent believe they are “more prosperous today than under the 1996-2001 Taliban government,” down from 54 percent in 2006.
A U.S. military judge “barred the Pentagon Tuesday from using a Guantanamo prisoner’s confession to Afghan authorities as trial evidence, saying it was obtained through torture.” The detainee’s defense attorney, Air Force Maj. David Frakt, told the AP that the ruling removes “the lynchpin of the government’s case.”
“In a study conducted in Florida, researchers found that drugstores in the poorest areas charge more, on average, for four widely used prescription medications than do pharmacies in wealthier neighborhoods.”
And finally: Happy Halloween from the White House, with special greetings from Barney, Miss Beazley, and Willie the cat.
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Politico reports: “Two days after next week’s election, top conservatives will gather at the Virginia weekend home of one of the movement’s most prominent members to begin a conversation about their role in the GOP and how best to make sure a disaster like this election never happens again.
October 29th, 2008 at 9:04 amOT: Do the Obama’s have any pets?
October 29th, 2008 at 9:11 amjoe the plumber? ROFLMAO
mcsame still using the shill huh. joe not the plumber, not named joe, has no idea abot anything politicial is the mcsame spokesman?
Lordy, it’s bad when a tax evader is a better spokesman for a party than the VP pick.
October 29th, 2008 at 9:14 amKay Says:
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OT: Do the Obama’s have any pets?
**I remember the interview the kids participated in and Mom and Dad told the girls they could get a dog if he won.
October 29th, 2008 at 9:21 amKay Says:
Nope, but they’re “expected” to adopt one upon moving into the WH.
There’s even some online polls to help suggest a pet to the Obamas!
October 29th, 2008 at 9:22 amWell, I think a “weekend home” just might be part of the problem guys. Ya think?
October 29th, 2008 at 9:23 amWhat do you mean “if” they win! (hehe)
October 29th, 2008 at 9:24 amPolitico reports: “Two days after next week’s election, top conservatives will gather at the Virginia weekend home of one of the movement’s most prominent members to begin a conversation about their role in the GOP and how best to revive” the party. The meeting will include a “who’s who of conservative leaders.”
And, if they are smart they will be giving the neoCON Evangelicals their walking papers. If they don’t, they will become the permanent minority party.
October 29th, 2008 at 9:29 amHow best to revive the GOP?
Guys–stay the hell out of power!
Obviously, it was getting into power that destroyed the Republicans. This might be a good time for them to think of some fresh ideas…
…but what am I saying?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OiBWkNFtrEg
October 29th, 2008 at 9:30 amThe move “threatens an already beleaguered banking industry with another wave of heavy losses after an era in which it reaped near record gains from the business of easy credit that it helped create.”
One thing I hope comes out of our financial meltdown is that people will learn to live within their means, rather than going back to their “keeping up with the Joneses” mentality. When I got divorced four years ago I found myself in a financial position where I could pay off all my debts and ever since then I have worked hard to remain debt free other than my mortgage. This means I don’t always buy what I want, mostly just what I need. The peace of mind I have far outweighs the lack of goodies I would like to have.
October 29th, 2008 at 9:34 amPalin will also be giving a policy speech on energy in Toledo, OH.
That should provide a few laughs.
October 29th, 2008 at 9:37 am“In a study conducted in Florida, researchers found that drugstores in the poorest areas charge more, on average, for four widely used prescription medications than do pharmacies in wealthier neighborhoods.”
I find this reprehensible. Back when I was in college, my Sociology class did a study of grocery prices at Safeways in San Jose. We found that the prices were much higher in areas where the poor and elderly lived. These were places where most people didn’t own a car and had no choice other than to shop at the Safeway in their neighborhood.
October 29th, 2008 at 9:40 am“After years of flooding Americans with credit card offers and sky-high credit lines, lenders are sharply curtailing both, just as an eroding economy squeezes consumers.”
and here i thought they quit coming to me because i would send everything back to them – along with a bold red “IMPEACH BUSHCO”, or the like, printed on the app – in the postage paid envelope…
i rather miss doing that…
October 29th, 2008 at 9:40 amfound at C&L – pass it on:
Crossing the finish line — at full steam
Don’t Let Up
October 29th, 2008 at 9:52 amtop conservatives will gather
I followed the link and still can’t tell. Are these “top conservatives” of the Neocon kind or “top conservatives” of the traditional conservative kind ?
Oh, and I see the Joe the Plumber which McCain said to leave alone is now McCain’s political strategist. Right !
October 29th, 2008 at 9:53 am“In a study conducted in Florida, researchers found that drugstores in the poorest areas charge more, on average, for four widely used prescription medications than do pharmacies in wealthier neighborhoods.”
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I have heard that the situation is much the same for groceries. Poorer neighborhoods generally have fewer grocery stores and pharmacies, and the residents are often less mobile.
A poor person without a car ends up buying his medications at the one place he can walk to (or perhaps take the bus to). He doesn’t have that many choices, because the big drug and grocery chains prefer to build out in the lucrative suburbs instead of poorer neighborhoods (there’s also the perception that a poor neighborhood is a dangerous neighborhood). Therefore, the businesses in the poor neighborhoods tend to be more of the independent variety (which usually have higher prices than the big guns) and they have less competition.
It’s a sucky system, but that appears to be how it works.
October 29th, 2008 at 9:53 amRegulators Failed in Assessing BPA Risk, Panel Says (Update1)
October 29th, 2008 at 9:54 amBloomberg – 27 minutes ago
By David Olmos Oct. 29 (Bloomberg) — Health regulators failed to properly assess the potential safety risks posed by the chemical bisphenol A, according to a report by a panel of US independent scientific advisers.
FDA must act to limit exposure to chemical Milwaukee Journal Sentinel
Panel Calls FDA Ruling on BPA “Inadequate” eFluxMedia
Daily Green – dBTechno – Washington Post – The Associated Press
all 336 news articles »
http://news.google.com/?ncl=1263741900&hl=en&topic=m
Re: #4
“Win or lose…a dog.” His words not mine. Sorry I “misquoted.”
October 29th, 2008 at 9:57 amMapleStreet Says:
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top conservatives will gather
I followed the link and still can’t tell. Are these “top conservatives” of the Neocon kind or “top conservatives” of the traditional conservative kind ?
Obviously, they are neocons. These days, most “traditional conservatives” call themselves Democrats.
October 29th, 2008 at 9:57 amThe meeting will include a “who’s who of conservative leaders.”
Is Joe the Plumber invited?
October 29th, 2008 at 9:58 ami would send everything back to them – along with a bold red “IMPEACH BUSHCO”, or the like, printed on the app – in the postage paid envelope…
Katy, my guilty pleasure this year has been signing up on McNumbNuts’ website and receiving oodles of fundraising and other BS emails from them (using my anonymous email address).
I take great amusement in reading them and then replying with smart-alec commentary about their campaign and zero prospects for their success. It is really great fun and I will miss it next week.
October 29th, 2008 at 10:01 amJohn McCain will campaign with “Joe the Plumber” today in Miami,
Why isn’t Joe at work, making money to buy his plumbing business?
October 29th, 2008 at 10:01 amTed Stevens says, “Those poopy-pants prosecutors perpetuated a purely partizan politicalization of the justice process and perjury while prosecuting possible purloining of presumably improperly procured or pilfered proceeds.”
I am stunned. The verdict is unanimously “guilty”, and therefore this was obviously wrong. I guess that’s because according to republicans, no republican is guilty of any crimes. The republicans are perfect, and any apparent failings are only because those lefties interfered with the perfect plan.
Well, chimpy will just add Stevens to the list of people to be pardoned before he leaves office. The list includes Cheney, Rummy, Condi, and even the chimperator himself. In a unique signing statement of great pomposity, the Chimperator will issue a law that says that no republican who did anything during the chimperator’s tenure can be prosecuted for anything: blanket presidential pardons for all republicans who have been accused, or may be accused in the future, of any sort of wrongdoing.
October 29th, 2008 at 10:04 amWhy isn’t Joe at work, making money to buy his plumbing business?
Joe/Sam isn’t really into the Unstable/Unable ticket. He’s just playing along for the “clothing allowance”.
October 29th, 2008 at 10:04 amWhy isn’t Joe at work, making money to buy his plumbing business?
Why work when you can suck off the wingnut welfare teat.
October 29th, 2008 at 10:07 amJoe doesn’t need to work right now. He’s getting a room and meals running around with McCain. Then he’ll have a job for life plumbing at McCain’s seven homes. He should be a really busy guy, since the McCains are so full of sh*t!
October 29th, 2008 at 10:08 amWhy isn’t Joe at work
I’ll bet that he IS working: I’m sure that he’s not palling around with the McCain campaign for the free sandwiches on the bus. There’s some sort of cash compensation. Bet Joe (Sam I am) will be able to pay those back taxes (much as it will burn him to actually ’support the troops’), and possibly get a plumber’s license (without that annoying training thing). Ah, the joys of joining the political corruption machine.
October 29th, 2008 at 10:12 amWeren’t we just hearing about how we’re going to negotiate with the Taliban now? Is there a strategy at ALL?
I can’t imagine why.
And last but not least:
GO TEDDY! Glad to have the Lion back in the Senate.
October 29th, 2008 at 10:13 amBilbo Hussein Baggins Says
October 29th, 2008 at 9:29 am
And, if they are smart they will be giving the neoCON Evangelicals their walking papers. If they don’t, they will become the permanent minority party.
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The late Barry Goldwater bemoaned the takeover of the GOP by the religious right, claiming that telling the rest of the country how to live went against the conservative principle of individual freedom that he believed this country was founded upon.
Barry isn’t around anymore to influence the party, but perhaps there are still some conservatives who will echo his thoughts.
I remember “traditional” conservative values, but I don’t even see them in what the Republican Party has become.
Strong defense? This has always been one of the key points. We still have the mightiest military in the world, but our current wars have stretched our fighting forces too thin and broken them down to an alarming degree. If the rest of the world decided to band together and oppose us, we would have a big problem.
Less spending? The national debt has skyrocketed several times more under Reagan and the two Bushes than under all the rest of the presidents (including Clinton) combined.
Less government? It’s true that much has been deregulated under today’s GOP, risking our food safety and the cleanliness of our air and water. But that has been made up for by more government intrusion in our lives in the form of eavesdropping and spying on our phone calls, internet usage, and other activities. And let’s not even get into how today’s GOP wants to get into our bedrooms, our marriages, and our uteruses.
National security? Another key pillar in the GOP ideology. Unfortunately, our relationship with the rest of the world has become more strained than at any other point in my lifetime I can remember. Our activities in the Middle East have been the greatest recruiting tool possible for terrorist groups who wish us harm. Any schoolkid can tell you that angering others and alienating them doesn’t do much to help your own safety, even if you ARE the biggest kid on the playground.
Perhaps this election will serve as a wake-up call. Or perhaps it will just strengthen the resolve of the neocons and they will just flail harder in the same direction. Time will tell.
October 29th, 2008 at 10:17 amhttp://www.electoral-vote.com/
October 29th, 2008 at 10:20 amshoeless Says:
John McCain will campaign with “Joe the Plumber” today in Miami,
Why isn’t Joe at work, making money to buy his plumbing business?
Who does the McCain campaign think will be swayed by “Joe teh Plumber”? Increasingly, their only “strategy” (and this certainly includes the Palin camp) is to appeal more and more to the base. Even if the entire base turns out to vote, it won’t do them any good if they haven’t convinced moderates to vote for McPalin; trotting out this fake plumber with his whining about socialism ain’t gonna do it.
October 29th, 2008 at 10:20 amThat link about the concerned conservatrons includes this:
It’s fascinating to me that the so-called “who’s who” thinks that Palin is a viable candidate and that she’s qualified to be President — of course, these are the exact people that supported Dubya, so perhaps “qualified” simply means “willing to do what we tell her.”
Bush was originally elected in spite of not being particularly bright or qualified, but he also had almost zero baggage going into 2000. Palin? Seriously?
October 29th, 2008 at 10:25 amHappy Halloween from the White House, with special greetings from Barney, Miss Beazley, and Willie the cat.
Not gonna look….I refuse to look….ugh.
October 29th, 2008 at 10:26 amI listened to part of Palin’s “major policy speech” this morning.
She just couldn’t help herself, it was just another campaign speech.
**yawn**
October 29th, 2008 at 10:27 amliberal traitor Says:
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Weren’t we just hearing about how we’re going to negotiate with the Taliban now? Is there a strategy at ALL?
No, you misunderstood. Those were not diplomatic negoiations by the State Dept. They were talks between Bush administration officials and the Taliban. The Bush adminstation officials were obviously seeking advice about how to avoid capture and prosecution when wanted for international crimes. These guys and gals are just thinking ahead to the transition next January.
October 29th, 2008 at 10:27 amRecently convicted Sen. Ted Stevens (R-AK) “is asking the Justice Department to investigate the conduct of federal prosecutors” who prosecuted him.
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Nice touch… and novel, too, as far as I can tell. Most freshly convicted folks just appeal their convictions. Ted is going us all one better one better here. Having sen just how F-in’ duplicitous BotchCo is, I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised if W obliges Ted and orders the DoJ to actually do this.
October 29th, 2008 at 10:28 amRepublican Party will be a history in two decades and will vanish as an influential political party,if the party does not clean its image of being a white religious movement that takes its ideologies from Right wingers and extreme religious movements,with no tolerance to other faiths and dogmas,and without sensing the true average American feelings.
Instead of increasing the base of the party, the party is shrinking its base as a result of pleasing and appeasing religious groups and their leaders.
The party should also look after the average American instead of the interests of wealthy individuals and wealthy corporate CEOs.
Republicans need to talk more about issues concerning Americans and not just using tax schemes to sell themselves as the saviors of the average American.
Time is running out for Republican Party, and as a result other new parties might rise to fill the GOP big vacuum.
October 29th, 2008 at 10:34 am“Two days after next week’s election, top conservatives will gather at the Virginia weekend home of one of the movement’s most prominent members to begin a conversation about their role in the GOP and how best to revive” the party.”
An artist’s rendering of this event:
October 29th, 2008 at 10:35 amhttp://www.ibiblio.org/wm/paint/auth/bruegel/death.jpg
Betrayus’s surge method is being implemented in Afganistan now. that means we will soon be paying them to not fight. Actually one of the smartest things they have done so far….at least it works as long as you keep paying.
October 29th, 2008 at 10:37 amJoe the plumber nows even less than Palin. Palin knows less than McCain. McCain knows less than nearly every democratic voter. They all know more than republican supporters.
October 29th, 2008 at 10:38 amZooey Says
October 29th, 2008 at 10:26 am
Happy Halloween from the White House, with special greetings from Barney, Miss Beazley, and Willie the cat.
Not gonna look….I refuse to look….ugh.
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Oh, I looked. It wasn’t so bad. But the “cuteness” of it might send you into a diabetic coma if you have a low threshold for that sort of thing.
I’ve seen worse from forwarded e-mails featuring cute kitty and cute puppy pictures acquaintances insist on sending me.
October 29th, 2008 at 10:39 amThis is the lasting legacy of the republicans. Sadly they have been very sucessful in thier push to move the courts to the right.
Just like all the other things they have done to our country, it is not a good thing for Americans.
October 29th, 2008 at 10:43 amThe “Honorable” Senator will next demand an investigation of the Judge and all Jury members. They had to all be in on it. . . after all, they all wanted to convict a high-profile crook, ops, defendant.
October 29th, 2008 at 10:46 amAn artist’s rendering of this event:
http://www.ibiblio.org/ wm/ paint/ auth/ bruegel/ death.jpg
I ffuukkiinn LOVE Breughels…
There’s virtually a whole floor in the Kunst-Historiches Musee in Vienna devoted to him and his paintings. There must be 20 or more. I spent almost a whole morning there one day. He was soooo brilliant…
October 29th, 2008 at 10:46 amI listened to Sarah Palin so called ‘Energy Speech’ she gave. She repeatedly accused countries that we are buying oil from are giving our money to terrosits.
This is a big lie, in fact the opposite is happening.
Deputy Secretary of US Treaury Robert Kimmitt is now visiting many Arab States soliciting money to help in our financial crisis.
These Arab coutries have trillions invested in US companies.
In this crisis we have, they lost billions of dollars as a result due to our banking,housing and credit crisis.
Sarah Palin simply needs to educate herself.
October 29th, 2008 at 10:50 amStevens’s attorney has requested an investigation into “numerous, serious constitutional violations” by government prosecutors, alleging that his trial was “irretrievably tainted by the prosecution team’s zeal to convict a high-profile but innocent defendant.”
Ah, the old ‘they’re zealous’ defense works nevery time.
October 29th, 2008 at 10:50 amThis is the lasting legacy of the republicans. Sadly they have been very sucessful in thier push to move the courts to the right.
Just like all the other things they have done to our country, it is not a good thing for Americans.
October 29th, 2008 at 10:43 am
It’ll be 40 years before all the damage done by the Busheviks these last 8 years passes through the civic cloaca and is finally deposited in the shit-pile of history.
Obama, if/when, may get to nominate 3 SCOTUS appointments, but they won’t turn the tide. First, he’s no “progressive.” Shit, he’s not even a “liberal,” so he’ll NEVER nominate any REAL liberals to counteract the appalling fascistic tendencies of the Opus Dei court (the mackerel-snapper contingent: Roberts, Scalito, Unca Thomas and mini-Meese). We’ll never see the likes of Brennan, or Douglas, Black, or Marshall in the High COurt again, ever…
October 29th, 2008 at 10:54 amAnd, even if he did, they’d never get Senate approval. Even with a 59 or 60 vote Dim senate, there are at least 10 doubtful (”impossible”) DINO votes: the Nelsons, Carper, Baucus, Landrieu, Salazar, Rockefeller, Byrd, and (of course) “Loserman.”
There’s virtually a whole floor in the Kunst-Historiches Musee in Vienna devoted to him and his paintings. There must be 20 or more. I spent almost a whole morning there one day.
Yes, yes, me too’s. The morning I spent in that space, an instructor was giving a painting-by-painting lecture. Fabulous.
October 29th, 2008 at 11:01 ammisshusseinmolly Says:
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I’ve seen worse from forwarded e-mails featuring cute kitty and cute puppy pictures acquaintances insist on sending me.
Yeah, but who wants to see “cute” from a mass murderer?
October 29th, 2008 at 11:05 amIt baffles me that McIIIrd would still be pallin around with the thoroughly debunked Sam the laborer who pretends to be a plumber, owes back taxes, had his driver’s license revoked in AZ, …http://suzieqq.wordpress.com/2008/10/18/joe-the-plumber-arizona-driver-license-suspended/
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Wurzelbacher, who lived in Mesa in 2000 and had an Arizona driver’s license, had his driver’s license suspended by the Arizona Department of Transportation Motor Vehicle Division on May 4, 2000, following a nonpayment of a court-imposed fine for civil traffic violations, according to court records.
America’s new political icon, who owes nearly $1,200 in back taxes, according to public records, still owes more than $700 to the Mesa court system.
Records show he was cited for failure to stop at a red light and for failure to provide proof of insurance on Feb. 9, 2000, in a black Dodge truck at the intersection of Dobson and Baseline roads in Mesa.
After failing to pay his original fine of $627.50 issued in March 2000, his license was suspended and the fine was handed over to a collection agency along with a 16 percent surcharge. The now-resident of Holland, Ohio, still owes $727.90 to the Mesa Municipal Court, according to court records.
Nevertheless, Wurzelbacher’s driver’s license is still valid in Ohio, according to the Ohio Bureau of Motor Vehicles, and was renewed as recently as May 2005. Ohio law requires a license to be renewed every four years, meaning Wurzelbacher likely obtained an Ohio license in 2001, one year after having his Arizona license suspended.
With a suspended license in one state, it should not be possible to get a new license in another, said Cydney DeModica, spokeswoman for the Arizona MVD.
The only way “Joe the Plumber” could have slipped through the cracks is a clerical error in which his driving records were not entered into the Problem Driver Pointer System, the national database of information about people with a checkered driving past, said Ohio Bureau of Motor Vehicles spokeswoman Lindsay Komlanc.
Komlanc added if the Ohio BMV were to receive the information, appropriate action could be taken, including suspension of his Ohio license.
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Why does McIIIrd hate the AZ Motor Vehicle Department?
October 29th, 2008 at 11:18 am“Politico reports: “Two days after next week’s election, top conservatives will gather at the Virginia weekend home of one of the movement’s most prominent members to begin a conversation about their role in the GOP and how best to revive” the party.”
May an asteroid the size of a full grown African elephant crash their little party. I will believe in a supreme being if it happens.
October 29th, 2008 at 11:28 amA U.S. military judge “barred the Pentagon Tuesday from using a Guantanamo prisoner’s confession to Afghan authorities as trial evidence, saying it was obtained through torture.” The detainee’s defense attorney, Air Force Maj. David Frakt, told the AP that the ruling removes “the lynchpin of the government’s case.”
Nice work, Bushie.
October 29th, 2008 at 11:37 amLooks like Joe the Plumber is trying to parlay his 15 minutes of fame into a political apointment job someplace.
October 29th, 2008 at 11:40 amGood Morning youngster’s, Happy hump day and thank’s for the great reading in you submitted post’s…Kudo’s to RUCerious for the post on the not Joe or plummer article…Just one more fraud in the mcnut’s circus tent..
Noticed Senator Steven’s is attempting to act like a deposed king, foot stomping and demand’s of retrabution on the legal team that brought up the charge’s..Wonder if he will go after the juror’s next…More sad display’s of a felonious, evil old man….Blessing’s as you all go about your day…
October 29th, 2008 at 11:47 amtokin librul Says:
“It’ll be 40 years before all the damage done by the Busheviks these last 8 years passes through the civic cloaca and is finally deposited in the shit-pile of history.”
Beautiful! So true and perfectly stated! Zappa comes to mind. Mind if I quote you? ;>)
October 29th, 2008 at 11:56 amMarie Says:
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Looks like Joe the Plumber is trying to parlay his 15 minutes of fame into a political apointment job someplace.
Hmmm, seems to me that a previous Republican administration employed plumbers.
October 29th, 2008 at 12:09 pmAnd we should all pay attention to this Joe-the-faux-plumber because……….?
*rolling eyes*
October 29th, 2008 at 12:18 pmLividLib Says:
May an asteroid the size of a full grown African elephant crash their little party. I will believe in a supreme being if it happens.
October 29th, 2008 at 11:28 am
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Actually, an asteroid the size of an African elephant (3.6 meters in diameter) would break up into fragments at about 135,000 feet, with most smaller fragments failing to reach the Earth’s surface and none of the larger fragments enough impact velocity to form a crater.
In order to have any real meaningful effect on the future of the Republican party, you’d need an iron-based asteroid about the size of a blue whale (33.5 meters in diameter). This, assuming a 45-degree angle of impact, would produce an earthquake equivalent to 4.9 on the Richter scale, create an air blast that would collapse most structures in a two-mile radius, and leave an impact crater 619 feet deep and 2,900 feet across.
Check out http://www.lpl.arizona.edu/impacteffects/ for more ways a celestial object could affect the conservative political landscape. :)
October 29th, 2008 at 12:40 pmhuseein toasterhead,
Whatev!
Let’s go with a sink hole instead and no collateral damage, thank you very much!
October 29th, 2008 at 1:22 pm16 MissHusseinMolly said:
I have heard that the situation is much the same for groceries. Poorer neighborhoods generally have fewer grocery stores and pharmacies,
The situation is worse. Inner city “stores” are unlikely to carry fresh produce but instead stock the non-perishable items of chips and soda (and beer), Even semi-healthy canned vegetables are much, much likely to be available.
So if you don’t have a car, no way can you get a health meal at any price.
October 29th, 2008 at 1:58 pmLividLib, the sinkhole sounds great, have the earth just open up and swallow them up into a septic tank gone awry!
October 29th, 2008 at 2:10 pmYeah, the Republicans need to move more to the right, learn to goose-step, and pick off progressives from a helicopter.
October 30th, 2008 at 1:33 amPresident Palin could appoint Huckabee as Minister of Morality and he could modify the Constitution.