McCain Contradicts Himself On ‘Spreading The Wealth’: Taxes Should ‘Help Those Who Can’t Help Themselves’
McCain Contradicts Himself On ‘Spreading The Wealth’: Taxes Should ‘Help Those Who Can’t Help Themselves’
On CNN last night, Larry King asked Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) if he really believed that Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL) is a “socialist,” as conservatives have tried to paint him. “No,” replied McCain, before charging that Obama “has stated time after time that he believes in quote, ‘spreading the wealth around.’”
King pressed on, asking, “Isn’t the graduated income tax spreading the wealth?” McCain admitted that it was, but claimed that it was “dramatically different” from what he accuses Obama of supporting:
L. KING: Concerning spreading the wealth, isn’t the graduated income tax spreading the wealth?
MCCAIN: The graduated income tax…
L. KING: If you and I paid more so that Jimmy can get some for him or pay for a welfare recipient, that’s spreading the wealth.
MCCAIN: Well, that’s spreading the wealth in the respect that we do have a graduated income tax. That’s a far cry from taking from one group of Americans and giving to another. I mean, that’s dramatically different.
When King asked if “taxes pay for services,” McCain contradicted his claim that the graduated income tax wasn’t about “taking from one group of Americans and giving to another.” “Taxes pay to keep our government secure, to help those who can’t help themselves and other functions of government,” said McCain. Watch it:
McCain’s contradictory attempt to explain his attacks against Obama echoes the difficulty that his spokesman, Tucker Bounds, had yesterday in explaining Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin’s boast that Alaskans “share in the wealth” of windfall oil taxes. Bounds claimed that Alaska’s sharing of natural resources is “unique” and not at all socialist.
Transcript:
L. KING: Do you — you don’t believe Barack Obama is a socialist, do you?MCCAIN: No. But I do believe — I do believe that he’s been in the far left of American politics. He has stated time after time that he believes in quote, “spreading the wealth around.” He’s talked about courts that would redistribute the wealth.
He has a record of voting against tax cuts and for tax increases. And I don’t think there’s any doubt that he would increase spending and he would — and sooner or later, we would be increasing taxes.
There is no doubt in my mind that that’s what his record — 94 times he voted to cut taxes — against tax cuts and for tax increases. He voted for — and that’s what matters, not rhetoric — to raise taxes on individuals making $42,000 a year.
L. KING: Concerning spreading the wealth, isn’t the graduated income tax spreading the wealth?
MCCAIN: The graduated income tax…
L. KING: If you and I paid more so that Jimmy can get some for him or pay for a welfare recipient, that’s spreading the wealth.
MCCAIN: Well, that’s spreading the wealth in the respect that we do have a graduated income tax. That’s a far cry from taking from one group of Americans and giving to another. I mean, that’s dramatically different.
Senator Obama clearly has talked about, for years, redistributive policies. And that’s not the way we create wealth in America. That’s not the way we grow our economy. That’s not the way we create jobs.
And when small business people see that half of their income — half of the income of small businesses is going to be taxed by Senator Obama, then they’re very upset about it.
L. KING: He says it’s only the personal income tax. If you run a small — if you make $250,000 or more as a personal income, not a business income, that’s where he’s…
MCCAIN: And that’s…
L. KING: …he would increase your taxes.
MCCAIN: And that’s where his folks just reduced it to $200,000. And then Senator Biden yesterday said $150,000. And the fact is that if “Joe the Plumber” is able to buy the business that he works in, the guy that he buys it from is going to see an increase in capital gains taxes. They’re going to see an increase in payroll taxes. They’re going to see — if he reaches a certain level — an increase in his income taxes. And that’s what got people concerned. That’s what’s got “Joe the Plumber” upset.
L. KING: But doesn’t taxing…
MCCAIN: He wants to redistribute the money.
L. KING: Doesn’t taxes pay for services?
MCCAIN: Taxes pay for services…
L. KING: I’ve got taxes.
MCCAIN: But do we want — taxes pay to keep our government secure, to help those who can’t help themselves and other functions of government…
L. KING: Right.
MCCAIN: …which by the way, expanded by some 40 percent in the last eight years and gave us a $10 trillion debt…
L. KING: Under Bush.
MCCAIN: And the last two years under Democrat majorities in the House and Senate. But that’s the job of government.
But it is not the job of government that I believe in that would take a group of Americans who have some money and say, we’re taking your money and we’re giving it to others — this 95 percent tax cut he’s talking about for 95 percent of Americans. Forty percent of Americans pay no income tax. So he’s just going to give them some money. Where is he going to get it?
He’s increasing taxes for other groups of Americans.
L. KING: What are you going to do?
MCCAIN: That’s his plan.
I’m going to keep taxes low. I’m going to…
L. KING: Keep them right where they are?
MCCAIN: Sure. Absolutely.
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This just in, McCain contradicts himself…
Sigh, it isn’t even news when he does this anymore.
October 30th, 2008 at 1:42 pmThat’s whats best about John McCain , he says something that appeals to just about everybody .
October 30th, 2008 at 1:43 pmMan, even the trolls are just starting to mail it in now….
October 30th, 2008 at 1:43 pm#2 Darryll,
October 30th, 2008 at 1:44 pmFlagged for OT TROLLING!!!
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It sure is enlightening to know that Johnny agrees with Obama…
… Even if Johnny doesn’t agree with McDoubleTalk.
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October 30th, 2008 at 1:44 pmThanks RR, I needed a chuckle.
October 30th, 2008 at 1:47 pmYes, indeed, the “Double Talk Express” in which McLame “is for it and against it at the same time.”
October 30th, 2008 at 1:47 pmSince the Earned Income Tax Credit was enacted with the support of Ronald Reagan, I assume today’s repubs would call Reagan a “socialist.”
October 30th, 2008 at 1:48 pmYo what up Rapture Ready? Still nude waiting for the party that never happens?
October 30th, 2008 at 1:49 pmDaryll, why do you keep obsessing about “Hussein”?
If it’s Obama you’re referring to so childishly, then given this map, it would seem that most of the free world is “leftist”. And China supports McCain because he’s a closet communist, right?
I mean, if your logic is going to be consistent.
October 30th, 2008 at 1:50 pmThe “Wassup” guys 8 years later. first is the original, then the new one… Great message. 3 minutes and worth it.
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=wassup&emb=0&aq=f#
see it before it gets pulled- but it seems to be copies all over.
October 30th, 2008 at 1:51 pmraynman, they’ve been mailing it in (when they’ve even bothered to show up for work) for about six weeks now…
October 30th, 2008 at 1:51 pmcan’t wait for Nov. 5th…
October 30th, 2008 at 1:52 pmHows that share the wealth state of Iraq going that Bush purchased RR?
Hows that 700 billion exclusionary socialist bailout for Wall Street going RR?
If Alaska in one of the fifty states that constitute America why arent we getting some of that ’spread the wealth’ from Palins Alaska RR?
October 30th, 2008 at 1:56 pm49erDem Says:
Since the Earned Income Tax Credit was enacted with the support of Ronald Reagan, I assume today’s repubs would call Reagan a “socialist.”
And the cap on SSI earnings’ deductions enacted during his term, also has government chosing winners and losers, and rewarding them accordingly.
October 30th, 2008 at 1:56 pmhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qq8Uc5BFogE
October 30th, 2008 at 1:56 pmBible-thumper: “I will tell you one thing, I will not allow Hussein to redistribute my wealth.”
The great thing is that it doesn’t matter how stupid or ignorant you are. You’ll get your tax cut anyway! But, just for the sake of argument, how exactly would you “not allow” the government to take your tax money? Through prayer? Firepower? What?
October 30th, 2008 at 1:57 pmWe interrupt this BS topic to talk about whats truly important…… “the future”, something which the Repuppetcans could care less about.
Check out these kids:
http://www.undispatch.com/archives/2008/10/you_can_vote_ho.php
RIP
October 30th, 2008 at 1:57 pmSGT Stephen R. Sherman
C CO 1-5 IN (STRYKER)
KIA 3 Feb 2005
Mosul, Iraq
October 30th, 2008 at 1:58 pm
I think that RaptureReady’s middle name is ‘Che’, that’s why he fixates on Hussein
October 30th, 2008 at 2:00 pmWow. Talk about a “non-denial denial”.
Daryll, you claimed that “leftist” countries supported Obama because he “wants to convert America into Cuba”. Yet almost all of Europe supports Obama, according to Gallup, as does Australia, Canada and Japan. Meanwhile, China goes for McCain.
Using what bits of logic one can discern from your post, it would seem that most of the industrialized world is “leftist” and McCain, by virtue of his Chinese support, is a communist.
If you’re consistent, that is.
October 30th, 2008 at 2:01 pmMcCain sounded like a Dem this morning in his stump speech from Defiance, Ohio. I was waiting for him to attack Obama from the Left, calling his a goddamn right conservative Republican or something.
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October 30th, 2008 at 2:01 pmSpread the wealth Sarah
Wheres my check Sarah??
October 30th, 2008 at 2:01 pmRupture already ,
October 30th, 2008 at 2:02 pmyou make over 250 000 a year as your personal salary ? It’s a good thing someone is looking out for the big guy ? Millions and billions aren’t enough ? It would keep him up at night just thinking about how the numbers on his bank statements , representing moneys he will never need or use anyway ,are going down by a fraction ?
Poor little rich people .
#15 Daryll said:
Like, Marry a rich heiress to finance your campaign?
Please Daryll, Hussein is inflammatory, otherwise you wouldn’t use it. Your intentional use of it(but, but, but it’s his middle mane…B.S.) is manipulative of RACIAL BIAS toward Muslim and Middle Eastern fear mongering.
Is anyone and everyone who is named Hussein a risk to America? If so, the every Timothy, Theodore and Eric Robert is one too!
Bigots are so shallow minded…
Why don’t you call John, Sydney?
Could it be that it sounds too… SISSY?
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October 30th, 2008 at 2:02 pmRender unto Ceasar….
October 30th, 2008 at 2:05 pmOctober 30th, 2008 at 2:05 pm
Oops. My bad. I just noticed that i had read the map wrong. China doesn’t actually support McCain. Only six nations in the world do, led by Georgia at +8. China is in the “Top Ten McCain Countries” because it’s ONLY at -7 in McCain support.
October 30th, 2008 at 2:05 pmI think the more people out there really start to think about these things the more they will realize that we have had socialism in this country for a really long time. 1913 was the year that started it all. But, I think Teddy Roosevelt was one of John McCain’s heros.
October 30th, 2008 at 2:06 pm
So you don’t believe in god at all, you are just a greedy pig.
October 30th, 2008 at 2:07 pmPoint one: if your income comes largely from being a DoD contractor, as you’ve stated many times on these boards, then you are living off TAX MONEY. The government is taking from others to support your lifestyle.
Point two: You say “I will not allow a rogue terrorist to take more of my money to help those who are lazy or refuse to strive to be successful.” My question to you is: Whatcha gonna do about it?
October 30th, 2008 at 2:07 pmWnen I do it, it is saintly.
When Obama does it, it is a african-american muslim terrorist marxist communist pinko liberal plot.
How many times do I have to explain this to you ?
October 30th, 2008 at 2:07 pmThe Obama infomercial said that taxes would not be raised on families who’s income was lower than $200,000. So which is it? Individuals who make under $250k or families with incomes under $200k?
October 30th, 2008 at 2:08 pmRR:
I am a billable DoD contractor and I own a small system administative business on the side. I dictate my success. I will not allow a rogue terrorist to take more of my money to help those who are lazy or refuse to strive to be successful.
So you get paid with taxpayer money then. Must be nice to be living off the state, huh?
Please explain how Obama is a ‘rogue terrorist.’ Actually, scratch that, I already know all of your bullsh!t reasons for saying it. Better if you just explain how the FBI would allow someone who is a ‘rogue terrorist’ to run for President of the United States.
This should be priceless…
October 30th, 2008 at 2:08 pmAlejandro,
And don’t forget the Republican savior Ronny RayGun’s institution of Earned Income Tax Credits… Spreading THAT wealth.
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October 30th, 2008 at 2:08 pmYour wealth has already been redistributed by (?)Dubya while you sat idly by and did nothing to stop it.
October 30th, 2008 at 2:09 pmRaptureReady Says:
Why should we vote for mccain. He is a sinner.
October 30th, 2008 at 2:09 pmI don’t believe it.
In post 35, I declined to use an offensive 3 letter word for homosexual, beginning with the letter f.
Then I see in the previous news article that Senator Bond is accusing Obama of spreading the gay.
Guess I should have used it.
October 30th, 2008 at 2:11 pmBible-thumper: “I will not allow a rogue terrorist to take more of my money to help those who are lazy or refuse to strive to be successful.”
Right. You’re repeating yourself. My question is how will you “not allow” the government to take your tax money? Will you simply not pay your taxes? Will you shoot the Sheriff when he comes to your door with a summons to appear in court? Will you declare yourself a soverign country? What exactly are you planning, bibleboy?
October 30th, 2008 at 2:11 pm#28 Darryll says:
So, you’re a pro-lifer who profits from being employed in an industry based on killing…
… There’s a killing to be had from making war?
Or are you just greasing up to pass through that eye of the needle?
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October 30th, 2008 at 2:13 pmI am a billable DoD contractor and I own a small system administative business on the side. I dictate my success. I will not allow a rogue terrorist to take more of my money to help those who are lazy or refuse to strive to be successful.
YOU don’t dictate your success, as a DoD contractor, and you know it.
If Obama wins, he’ll be cutting the waste at DoD, that has built up during the era of cost-plus, no-bid contracting, and that probably means you.
October 30th, 2008 at 2:13 pmYour allowing a rogue terrorist named Bin Laden to waste your wealth in Iraq for 5 years now.
October 30th, 2008 at 2:13 pmSorry for the OT and doubly sorry for our RaptureReady troll but prominent New hampshire republican and member of McCain’s Leadership Committee just jumped ship and endorsed Hussein:
http://news.bostonherald.com/news/2008/view.bg?articleid=1128871&srvc=2008campnews&position=13
Het Rapture, The Economist endorses Obama. I guess they are hoping for some of that Socialism you and your loony friends on the far right keep yammering on about!
October 30th, 2008 at 2:14 pmRaptureReady Says
October 30th, 2008 at 1:43 pm
Hussein wants to convert America into Cuba. Why do you think leftist countries (Venezuela, Cuba, etc.) support him?
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Oh, please. Obama’s proposals aren’t anywhere near as socialist as Franklin Roosevelt’s were when he came to office during the Great Depression. Did you think FDR “converted America into Cuba”? Most historians regard Roosevelt as one of our greatest presidents.
Oh, and if it’s not too much trouble, could you please provide links to these official endorsements for Obama from Venezuela and Cuba?
October 30th, 2008 at 2:15 pmFred: “Why should we vote for mccain. He is a sinner.”
This is a good question for bibleboy. According to the same book you use to condemn abortion, those who commit adultery should be put to death. Should John McCain be put to death for being an admitted adulterer? And, if Leviticus is wrong to call for the death of adulterers, what else is he wrong about? Did Leviticus even READ Genesis? It’s right there. Life began for Adam with his first breath. Why did Leviticus reject God’s word and insist that life begins in the womb?
October 30th, 2008 at 2:15 pm#47 Daryll,
WHAT’S THA AIP?
WASN’T PALIN SLEEPING WITH THAT ENEMY?
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October 30th, 2008 at 2:17 pmAlso, alot people believe that Hussein received campaign funding from foreigners.
A lot of people believe Elvis still lives.
Proof?
October 30th, 2008 at 2:18 pmRaptureReady Says:
Do some research on William Ayers and Rashid Khalidi. Also, alot people believe that Hussein received campaign funding from foreigners. Who are these foreigners? Why want he release his recent campaign funds records?
If you did some research on Khalidi, you’d know he was a respected and moderate scholar, not a terrorist at all. Scary name! Scary name!
A lot of people believe the earth is 6000 years old, too, Daryll, but that doesn’t make it right.
He has released all the campaign funds information he is required by law. All of it, Daryll. He doesn’t release the millions and millions of records of small contributions because, well, because there are millions and millions.
Go back to hiding under the bed.
October 30th, 2008 at 2:18 pmI have grown bored with this whole wealth redistribution canard. Let’s talk about Rapture Ready’s fun times rehabing whores and chitchatting with god. That stupid shit never grows old. Even better let’s “shake the devil off”
October 30th, 2008 at 2:18 pmPlease folks, you have it wrong.
When mcinsane talks about “spreading the wealth” he is referring to his habit of spending money with prostitutes, often paying huge sums of money for “services” that no one is willing to give him or that cindy is too stoned/drunk to provide.
He has always been for socialism for the wealthy, that is why he dumped his first wife in her most basic hours of need after an unfortunate accident and grabbed the “gold” with an heiress from a budweiser distributor.
October 30th, 2008 at 2:19 pmbibleboy: “Do some research on William Ayers and Rashid Khalidi.”
Maybe if you followed your own advice, you would find out that William Ayers was on an advisory committee and not on the Annenberg board. William Ayers was hired by the wife of Walter Annenberg, a republican and long-time friend of Ronald Reagan. He did not “sit on a board” with Obama.
And, you might find out that Rashid Khalidi’s group received almost a half a million dollars from a republican group chaired by John McCain.
Come on, bibleboy. Do facts mean anything at all to you?
October 30th, 2008 at 2:19 pmJohn McCain has been hollowed out, leaving us with the empty shell called Flippy McSpin. Once we get past the election I’m going to feel bad about that, even though it’s self-inflicted.
And Daryll. It’s not too late to save yourself but, you have to stop lying.
October 30th, 2008 at 2:21 pmSeems Socialist Sen Stevens liked to spread the wealth to his friends oh and take lots of gifts for his socialist troubles. 7 felonies worth.
October 30th, 2008 at 2:22 pmI am financially savy.
Then perhaps we should choose you to lead us out of this conservative-created morass.
You remember the way in, right?
October 30th, 2008 at 2:23 pmlies make baby Jesus cry
October 30th, 2008 at 2:24 pmdang, daryll is falling down. It’s kinda sad to see.
Where is your energy and strength daryll. You need to gird yourself against the upcoming onslaught.
October 30th, 2008 at 2:24 pmIf Daryll, the liar, did some research he would realize that Mr. Ayers has renounced violence and become a pillar of the community while Prof. Kalidi has never endorsed violence.
Stupid and dishonest. That’s the GOP base.
October 30th, 2008 at 2:24 pmI did some research on Ayers and Khalidi like you said, Rapture. It seems that the charity which Obama and Ayers worked on was organized by a Reagan Republican buddy and the board was heavy on Republicans so scratch that one. Khalidi, interesting. Did you know Rapture that McCain appropriated about half a million dollars for Khalidi and has spoken highly of the respected scholar. So Obama sat at a table with him and McCain has praised him, known him for years and raised money for him. My question to you is about McCain’s long associations with the likes of Ahmed Chalabi and Gordon Liddy. An admitted felon/domestic terrorist and a double agent for Iran! Sheesh, McCain has some dangerous friends, Rapture, no?
October 30th, 2008 at 2:25 pmTherefore, I didn’t lose money because of the market crash. I monitored the market. I am financially savy. -RR
I think the word is savvy. So your whining about what exactly then?
October 30th, 2008 at 2:25 pmWrong, I had a European account (Everbank) for 2 years (Closed in May), which I received a profit from the conversion rate -RR
So your supporting european socialism?
October 30th, 2008 at 2:26 pm#56 Darryll,
Fat pockets make for a tight squeeze…
… This is why a camel will fit and you will not.
Gold and riches are not the grease that you need to pass that eye of the needle test Christ spoke of. Because, a fat camel has only itself, no other baggage to trap it, whereas that rich man who burdens that camel, carries much baggage and deposits it upon all, trapping his soul. The camel will pass, none the less. The rich man’s baggage will always be “left behind”…
… And so will that rich man’s soul.
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October 30th, 2008 at 2:27 pmNot only is McCain making less and less sense, but now he’s just making up sh!t as he goes along. I’m glad that Larry King at least tried to call him on some of the more absurd stuff, like a graduated income tax having nothing to do with “spreading the wealth”, and how half of small business income would be taxed under Obama (as opposed to how it is now, where all profit is taxed?).
McCain is just limping to the finish line, now.
October 30th, 2008 at 2:27 pmSo your supporting european socialism?
While profitting off American misfortune.
October 30th, 2008 at 2:28 pmGet this, RR is whining about spreading the wealth while taking advantage of conversion rate of a left leaning country.
October 30th, 2008 at 2:28 pmRaptureReady Says:
Wrong, I had a European account (Everbank) for 2 years (Closed in May), which I received a profit from the conversion rate. I also kept Gold bullion coins and had investments in commodities for 3 years (Lucrative profit). I also recently bought numerous shares of Fannie and Freddie stock at it’s lowest point, right before Government take over (prices rose after the Government take over until the market crash), and sold my towards the middle of September. Therefore, I didn’t lose money because of the market crash. I monitored the market. I am financially savy.
What Daryll means to say is that he did every thing he could to avoid losing money because of the Administration’s mishandling of the economy. Invest overseas, buy gold . . . don’t trust Bush and his policies.
Oh, and don’t invest in America. Draw your salary from the public teat and never invest in American industry. Smart, Daryll. Really smart.
October 30th, 2008 at 2:28 pmbibleboy: “I had a European account (Everbank) for 2 years (Closed in May), which I received a profit from the conversion rate. I also kept Gold bullion coins and had investments in commodities for 3 years (Lucrative profit).
Hey bibleboy, do you recall the commandment about “bearing false witness?” Because nobody has made “lucrative” profits off of gold bullion coins during the last few years.
October 30th, 2008 at 2:29 pmSo Rapture ain’t gonna let no Hussein redistribute his wealth, eh? So if McCain wins, are you going to stop paying taxes?
I mean, you DO realize that taxes ARE government revenue, correct? And those DO go to pay for services for you AND everyone else, yes?
Do you ACTUALLY breathe and eat for yourself or are you directly connected to the GOP simple talk express as a lifeline?
October 30th, 2008 at 2:30 pmRR probably also invested in those trillions of dark derivatives [unregulated garbage] betting the market would crash.
October 30th, 2008 at 2:31 pmGet this, RR is whining about spreading the wealth while taking advantage of conversion rate of a left leaning country.
Taking advantage of the crappy economic climate, created by low taxes, and high government spending.
Bush really has been good for Daryll’s bank account, although not in a way he’ll ever admit.
October 30th, 2008 at 2:31 pmbullshit, the smartest fella’s in the room didn’t see the events unfolding as they did. What makes you think we believe you are any smarter than they are….
hindsight used to create a lie is still a sin.
October 30th, 2008 at 2:31 pmRuptureReady Have you done this yet?
October 30th, 2008 at 2:32 pmMatthew 19:21
Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me.
RR’s logic is whats wrong with America today. Greed.
Trading stocks isnt real work, its usury and its definitely something Jesus would never taken part in.
You dont fit the definition of a Christian RR.
October 30th, 2008 at 2:33 pmDaryll –
Let me get this straight. You brag about your European bank account, your gold bullion, and your financial “savy”. And you refuse to help out anyone less fortunate than you because they are “lazy” and they refuse to “strive to be successful”.
I wonder how proud Jesus is of your attitude?
October 30th, 2008 at 2:34 pmHey liar (Daryll) how did Jesus treat the money-changers like you? As I recall they didn’t fare well in the end.
October 30th, 2008 at 2:35 pmOf course not. Daryll is a mammonist in christian clothing just like the robber barons he pom poms for.
October 30th, 2008 at 2:35 pmbibleboy: “I purchase gold a 386.00per ounce. Gold is now worth 841.00 (It was worth 950.00)”
You’re a liar. You claimed you had gold bullion coins, not commodities. You’re stating the commodity price, not the coin prices which fluctuate wildly. The average profit from gold coins over the last five years is less than 10%. That’s assuming you’re a “trader.” Besides, gold even as a commodity hasn’t been $386 in a long time. If you bought it at that rate and held it, you’re not a trader.
October 30th, 2008 at 2:38 pmSo Daryll suckles at the government teat, while profitting off the crappy economy his preferred economic policies created, by investing overseas.
Where does one go, to get a moral lobotomy?
Church?
October 30th, 2008 at 2:38 pmThat’s the thing Xisithrus. Modern American Psychochristians proclaim themselves “righteous” then act like savage beasts, greedily taking their neighbors bread. Sick puppies if you ask me.
October 30th, 2008 at 2:39 pm#78 Darryll,
October 30th, 2008 at 2:39 pmHow much gold fits through an eye of a needle?
RuptureReady Your not going to heven.
October 30th, 2008 at 2:40 pmMatthew 19:24
And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.
# 56 – RaptureReady – not losing money in the market is not quite the same as not having your wealth redistributed via taxes. As a contractor, you pay federal and probably state income taxes, and your full share of FICA taxes. When you sell and receive gains in the market, you pay capital gain taxes. Unless you are a tax evader, which would make you a criminal under U.S. law.
October 30th, 2008 at 2:43 pmJeepers Daryll. No wonder you worship the Bimbo Borealis. A corrupt freak like Bible Spice must give you a stiffy. After all, she’s managed to defraud the State of Alaska out of tens of thousands, not to mention her house. And she’s managed to defraud the RNC out of $150,000 of fancy clothes and baubles.
October 30th, 2008 at 2:44 pmLurker,
October 30th, 2008 at 2:44 pmDarryll refuses to answer because he knows it is far easier to turn away from acknowledging one’s own sins that it is to confront them…
… I wonder what his defense will be before God, “No Sir, I earned that money…”
lurker Says:
RuptureReady Your not going to heven.
Matthew 19:24
And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.
Save your keystokes. Daryll’s an evangelical. They believe in something totally different: abundance theology, which states it’s ok to be rich, as long as you send boat-loads of money to them, for their “special works.”
October 30th, 2008 at 2:45 pmOK, Ruptured Already –
I am a billable DoD contractor and I own a small system administative business on the side. I dictate my success.
No, actually as far as DoD goes, your ability (or inablity) to obtain and retain contracts dictates a small measure of your success. I sure hope your side business doesn’t represent a conflict of interest – but I am sure you’ve thought of all the ways around that right?
I will not allow a rogue terrorist to take more of my money to help those who are lazy or refuse to strive to be successful.
Um…that sounds not only judgmental but like the kind of threat a terrorist might make.
Wrong, I had a European account
Certainly not one into which your DoD payments could have been deposited directly – that would be in violation of your contract. Also, you make it sound like you already aren’t paying your taxes.
All of this adds up to a couple options: you are either lying and therefore a sinner…OR you are stealing from the US Government and therefore a sinner…OR you are just a poorly informed troll, trying to stir the pot on TP to distract us from real issues – which means you are bearing false witness and therefore a sinner.
Which is it?
Or, more succintly, do you still “shake off the devil”?
October 30th, 2008 at 2:46 pmRupture Ready sez:
“I am a billable DoD contractor and I own a small system administative business on the side. I dictate my success. I will not allow a rogue terrorist to take more of my money to help those who are lazy or refuse to strive to be successful.”
Hey, Daryll, don’t mess with the IRS – they don’t care about you and your wacky economic-religious ideas.
October 30th, 2008 at 2:47 pmCome on Daryll tall us about those whores in Rio. That shit is dope!
October 30th, 2008 at 2:47 pmdaryll, is adultry a sin?
October 30th, 2008 at 2:47 pmRaptureReady Says:
Ahh, so Dayll ran away to this thread.
Why are you supporting McCain/Palin, Daryll?
Don’t you know both are adulterers? Both cheated on their spouses.
Why do you support sinners, Daryll?
October 30th, 2008 at 2:47 pmRR has proven, thru greed and usury, that he is no christian.
I suppose RR wants to see himself as a christian to make him feel better about the paradox capitalism and spiritualism creates within his mind. RR’s want to believe in Jesus and his teachings but our materialist/consumerist society confuses them, causing the hypocrisy I read so often from the greedy RR’s of this world. So I agree with your post Pete.
October 30th, 2008 at 2:48 pm
#78 – RR – gold is now worth $737; you’re a little high. Oh yeah, it also went over $1,000 a couple of months ago, but has lost that edge now.
October 30th, 2008 at 2:49 pmI forget. What part of the Gospel has Jesus saying “greed is good, blessed are the chiselers, cheats and thieves”? Is that the “Book of Rapacious Greed”?
October 30th, 2008 at 2:49 pmRaptureReady You don’t answer my posts. Why is that?
October 30th, 2008 at 2:50 pmI thought you were a bible person?
RR is actually, though he will deny it, a social darwinist.
Survival of the fittest has been skewed by these folks, they like to see themselves as powerful and fittest thru the magic of fiat [IOU's]
October 30th, 2008 at 2:56 pmFunny how Daryll avoids dealing with apparent hypocrisy of slamming “socialist Europe” while at the same time socking away his taxpayer-funded DoD paycheck in European bank accounts.
October 30th, 2008 at 2:56 pmYou expect too much. lurker. Ol’ Daryll has never read, or comprehended, the Bible. He’s more in tune with the Buy-bull. He’s a perfect representation of a person who misinterprets the words of Jesus to mean, “I got mine, eff you”.
October 30th, 2008 at 2:57 pm3. I will not allow Hussein to increase my taxes to pay for lazy Americans. -RR
You mean those lazy crooks on Wall Street.
October 30th, 2008 at 2:57 pmWhat? There’s some Biblewagger here who wants to “share the good news about Mammon“??
hoooo-weeee!
October 30th, 2008 at 2:58 pmOnce again, I ask; whatchoo gonna do about it if “Sidney” fails to become “President-elect Sidney”?
October 30th, 2008 at 2:59 pm3. I will not allow Hussein to increase my taxes to pay for lazy Americans.
October 30th, 2008 at 2:59 pm——
Not that I am worried about it but for the fun of it let’s say he does. What are you gonna do about it? Not a goddamn thing and you know it. Don’t say stupid shit you don’t mean. As it is you already say plenty of stupid shit. Oh and gay conversion therapy doesn’t work.
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RuptureReady Your not going to heven.
Matthew 19:24
And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.
Daryll doesn’t have to pass through the eye of a needle. Don’t you remember? Daryll and his wife are going to fly through the sky with a bunch of naked illegal immigrants to God’s corporate headquarters, where they will spend eternity shaking off each other’s devils.
October 30th, 2008 at 3:01 pmSo, liar-Daryll, you never gave your opinion about the GOP’s VP candidate abusing her office, bilking the State of Alaska, and accepting illegal gifts of fancy cloths and baubles. How would Jesus feel about that?
October 30th, 2008 at 3:01 pmIndeed, Rapture Ready is not spreading the words of Jesus but the ways of Mammon.
Can you take your wealth with you when you die RR?
Tombs of Kings are filled with gold and material things.
October 30th, 2008 at 3:01 pmRapture Ready
Why the space in your name? Did you think we wouldn’t know
October 30th, 2008 at 3:04 pmwho you are? You still haven’t answered any of my posts.
Rapture Ready Says:
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3. I will not allow Hussein to increase my taxes to pay for lazy Americans.
Careful Daryll. Violence is no way to solve anything. And messing with the IRS is also a bad idea.
October 30th, 2008 at 3:04 pmRuptured somthing,
Please define “lazy Americans.” I think that will help us understand to whom you are so reluctact to provide assistance.
I know I’m curious.
October 30th, 2008 at 3:11 pmWhy isn’t tithing called “socialism”? It’s all about redistributing wealth, usually from hard working parishioners to lazy preachers.
October 30th, 2008 at 3:13 pmRaptureReady Says:
I am a billable DoD contractor and I own a small system administative business on the side. I dictate my success. I will not allow a rogue terrorist to take more of my money to help those who are lazy or refuse to strive to be successful.
Let’s assume this isn’t a lie…which is a strech when dealing with this doofus.
So, you’re a war profiteer? How does it feel to get paid in blood money? Not sure JC would approve of that at all. Secondly, as numerous people here have pointed out, you leech of tax payer’s money and use that money to profit of death and destruction.
Third, what is the name of your company? As far as I can tell, there aren’t any Mom n Pop DoD contractors out there. I guess your unabashed love of death and the Bush cult points to the fact that you’ve participated in the unfair no-bid contract process that has consumed the DoD.
Hey, does anyone here know which circle of Hell RR will be heading to? Isn’t there one specifically for war mongers? Dante anyone?
October 30th, 2008 at 3:18 pmOh oh, Daryll. Flippy McSpin just announced that, if elected, he’s going to redistribute Exxon’s wealth by raising taxes. Your thoughts?
October 30th, 2008 at 3:19 pm.
We all know Darryll’s in it for the money…
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October 30th, 2008 at 3:19 pmshoeless Says:
Rapture Ready Says:
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3. I will not allow Hussein to increase my taxes to pay for lazy Americans.
Careful Daryll. Violence is no way to solve anything. And messing with the IRS is also a bad idea.
Darryl should invoke the 5th amendment here, except he seems to be against the Constitution and America, but he’s making his own case for treason. War profiteering, tax dodging, etc. etc.
October 30th, 2008 at 3:21 pmRapture Ready Says:
3. I will not allow Hussein to increase my taxes to pay for lazy Americans.
Exactly how are you “not going to allow it”?
October 30th, 2008 at 3:21 pmBe specific.
Soory pete,
October 30th, 2008 at 3:22 pmI think I just saw him go by my window naked. It wasn’t a pretty sight. Can you believe you aren’t even allowed to take a sandwich or even a few of those baby carrots? Screw that. I am staying right here on the ground.
Now how is it, on my day off, I come across a TP thread with >100 posts, and automatically know it’s a Parodyll thread?
With contradictory posts regarding the Bible?
And investments?
Folks, he’s playing ya! As usual.
I’ve never understood the mental masturbation of internet recognition.
October 30th, 2008 at 3:26 pmAnd believe you me, Parodyll is the king. Hands down (pun definitely intended).
Of course but it is still sort of amusing. Does anyone know if D is still torturing the wannabe Latin King over at his rarely visited hellhole?
October 30th, 2008 at 3:31 pmralph the wonder llama Says:
Funny how Daryll avoids dealing with apparent hypocrisy of slamming “socialist Europe” while at the same time socking away his taxpayer-funded DoD paycheck in European bank accounts.
He must be one of those elitists the Republican drones are always talking about, hehe
October 30th, 2008 at 3:31 pmTweedster @ 119:
Hey, does anyone here know which circle of Hell RR will be heading to? Isn’t there one specifically for war mongers? Dante anyone?
OK, for a start:
Circle 8, Pit iv – Fortune Tellers & Diviners (Pres-Elect Huckster)
Circle 8, Pit vi – Hypocrites (no ’splainin’ needed)
Circle 8, Pit x – Liars & Bearers of False Witness (loc cit)
That’s just what I could get to on short notice.
October 30th, 2008 at 3:40 pmHey Rapture Boy, is your home in the privileged neighborhood still worth the $400,000 you paid for it? Or will you be lucky to get 250,000 for in your next lifetime?
October 30th, 2008 at 3:57 pmAnd how’s Tiffany and the kid? You’ve never talked much about them after you were going to “plant the seed” down there in Brazil…
Glad you now have a side venture, your system administrative business… is that what you call the income you get for posting your dufousness here on the net?
St. Peter:
October 30th, 2008 at 4:59 pm“Daryll? hmmm, let’s see, yes, you’re registered…
Take your shoes off, put them in the tote along with any metal objects you may have in your pockets…
oh my, that’s quite a coin collection you have there…
ahem, yes, well, just get in line there behind that camel with the needle…”
The fact the economy is a worry on everyones mind should we really trust what the canidates are telling us about their tax policies. Hanlon has been bashing McCain for the last couple weeks but now he starts an attack on Obama’s tax plan. It also has links to a tax caluclator that would show you how much your family would be effected. Interesting read.
http://www.greenfaucet.com/blogs/hanlons-pub
October 30th, 2008 at 5:03 pmDOD contractor?!
October 30th, 2008 at 5:37 pmnah, he’s not on the Gov’t dole at all….like McCain hasn’t been on the Gov’t/DOD dole his ENTIRE life.
Two, I had a combination of both coins and commodities through Monex.
You’re stupidity belies your complete fabrication of reality.
If you bought gold, you didn’t own “coins” stupid fcuk!
If I wasn’t so amused by you, I be embarrassed FOR you.
October 30th, 2008 at 5:44 pm“From he to whom much has been given, much will be required…”
That Jesus was such a Marxist!
October 30th, 2008 at 5:51 pmThis poor old man doesn’t even know what he believes anymore.
October 30th, 2008 at 6:38 pmking: “so you wanna keep the tax rates just as they are?”
mccain: “sure!”
and there we have it: the primary reason why mccain represents another four years of bush……
October 30th, 2008 at 7:29 pm>I am a billable DoD contractor
>and I own a
>small system administative
> business on the side.
Wow, and yet somehow you still find time to post here. I’m going to go out on a limb and guess you make over 250,000 net profit a year, so you’re going to be one of the ones to feel comrade obamas pinch in your pocket. its amazing the amount of incredibly wealthy trolls we find on this board…did you know there are two veteran/millionaires who share your views who also post on this board ?(snicker)..
daryl, you seem incredibly amazing at 20/20 hindsight..you care to offer any investment tips to us for “THE FUTURE” instead of “the past”? If you giving us some winning investment advice, i will promise to dedicate 10 percent of my profits to the charity of your choice! Care to share your wisdom?
Jews for Jesus good for you?
October 30th, 2008 at 7:45 pm.
Dear Daryll,
Pray to your god…
http://wonkette.com/403979/more-photos-videos-from-yesterdays-sacrilege-wall-street-bull-prayer
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October 31st, 2008 at 1:38 am-McCain has been recieving $52 thousand per year since he returned from vietnam as a POW.
It came from those taxes.
-McCain recieves his Senators salary and health benefits form taxes redistributed to him.
Redistributed to McCain from people that have NO health care at all and DO NOT make the salary Senator McCain enjoys.
Nor do they have the opportunity to sell out Americans representation for lobbyist money to pad their accounts.
October 31st, 2008 at 4:01 am