McCain surrogate Joe the Plumber questions Obama’s loyalty to the U.S.
McCain surrogate Joe the Plumber questions Obama’s loyalty to the U.S.
Recently, Joe “the Plumber” Wurzelbacher has been hitting the campaign trail for and with Sen. John McCain (R-AZ). Last week, he was sharply rebuked by Fox News’s Shep Smith for agreeing that a vote for Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL) is a vote for the “death to Israel.” Today, Fox’s Neil Cavuto was taken aback when Joe questioned Obama’s loyalty to the United States:
JOE: McCain has fought and bled for our country, and loves our country. There’s too many questions with Barack Obama and his loyalty to our country. And I question that greatly.
CAVUTO: Well, you’re not doubting that he’s a good American. Or you are?
JOE: Oh you know, his ideology is something that is completely different than what democracy stands for, so I had some question there. In my opinion.
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What a dumbass.
I'm calling the Grammar Police.
November 2nd, 2008 at 6:53 pmYou, sir, are a moron.
November 2nd, 2008 at 6:53 pmCome on Sam Joe, you're just milking this thing now. Have a little dignity dude. Do you really want to end up like the forgotten "where's the beef" old lady or that pothead kid from the Dell commercials?
November 2nd, 2008 at 6:55 pmThe McCain campaign appears to have embraced this guy as being representative of the "typical American" they are aiming for. But the guy's an obvious LIV. He's bad at math, he's deluded himself into thinking that he could buy a business that will net him a quarter million dollars a year (the only thing keeping him from this dream is Obama's plan to move the upper tax bracket up 3 points), he has bought into every paranoid idea fed to him by the wingnuts, and he's an apparent idiot.
So why does the McCain campaign think that parading a moron as their spokesperson is a good idea? Do they think the moron vote is that large a segment?
November 2nd, 2008 at 6:57 pmThat is all he has left dbadass.
November 2nd, 2008 at 6:57 pmAt least the "Where's the Beef" lady could arrive on time to deliver her lines. . . the only thing Joe the Plumber is plumbing is his I wanna be a writer motif. . . ugh
November 2nd, 2008 at 6:57 pmThe grammar police inside of my head?
November 2nd, 2008 at 6:59 pmMy prediction:
A ticket that includes Sara Palin and Joe the Plumber for President/VP in 2012.
What a campaign....
November 2nd, 2008 at 7:03 pmIs Samjoe the only person in the country who doesn't realize he's been discredited? Other than Chippy and Flippy, of course.
November 2nd, 2008 at 7:04 pmJoe is not a plumber and is breaking the law because he owes back taxes. Only a reich-wing GOPig would give this loser any credence. McGrampa pals around with frauds.
November 2nd, 2008 at 7:05 pmIn the song, "Where have you gone Joe", change it to, "When will you go Joe".
November 2nd, 2008 at 7:09 pmWith all respect sluggo I am prepared to put all of what little I have left on both of them disappearing into the woodwork. Ms Palin will hang in a bit longer but the novelty thing has already way left so she will ride just on the reality that the national party will have to give her some props for a little while. If she is smart she'll try to cop a highly paid position within the party apparatus as community organizer
November 2nd, 2008 at 7:09 pmI question Joe the Plumber's intelligence.
November 2nd, 2008 at 7:10 pmwow...the sheer stupidity of this is ludacris...
the guy would be taxed LESS under obamas plan? did they mention that? (i suppose the irony would be lost on a crowd who thinks we needed to invade iraq because he'd had those nasty WMD's we sold him...)
oh wait, doesnt matter, this guy doesnt pay his taxes anyway!
could some decent person at the IRS please investigate joe the plumber, I have a strong feeling he's guilty of tax evasion.
id love nothing more than, after the election, to see this fraud on tv in handcuffs.. also, isnt there some statute against plumbing without a liscense?
is the mcccain campaign deliberately trying to get the skinhead vote by having some spokesman who both looks AND sounds like one of them?
November 2nd, 2008 at 7:12 pmMcCain surrogate Joe the Plumber questions Obama’s loyalty to the U.S.»
- - The William Hung of politics thankfully disappears into oblivion next Wednesday.
November 2nd, 2008 at 7:14 pmI’m curious to know why the hell I should give a shit what Joe Schmoe the Plumber thinks or says, the guys a frigging moron. If the wingnuts are praying for a dream 2012 Palin/Wurzelbacher ticket, they better also pray that their dream candidates avoid jail time between now and then.
November 2nd, 2008 at 7:16 pmReich-wingers are predicting...yes...get ready...a McCain landslide!!!
http://patriotroom.com/?p=3739
November 2nd, 2008 at 7:18 pmJoe Weaselwacker's 15 minutes of fame have expired. Go home before we tar and feather you.
November 2nd, 2008 at 7:19 pmJoe, Steve Austin called, he wants his soul back.
November 2nd, 2008 at 7:20 pmI would pay admission to watch Hannity, Kristol, and those other clowns at FOX swallow hard and try to prop up a "2012 Palin/Wurzelbacher" GOP ticket. What joyous folly!
November 2nd, 2008 at 7:21 pmJOE: Oh you know, his ideology is something that is completely different than what democracy stands for, so I had some question there. In my opinion.
So give us some examples "Joe Blow". Don't forget your
November 2nd, 2008 at 7:21 pmunpaid tickets ($700) in Arizona.
"I fart in your general direction."
Hey, Wurzelbacher, since when did you become an expert at policial science? Will everyone please stop giving this self-serving putz free air time?
November 2nd, 2008 at 7:26 pmI can't believe Fox is really interviewing him. I mean, he was good for a soundbite, and McCain made his point, but now he's talking as if he's a policy expert. Come to think of it, in the McCain campaign, maybe he is. http://straighttalkonmccain.blogspot.com/
November 2nd, 2008 at 7:29 pmWho cares that this guy thinks.
November 2nd, 2008 at 7:31 pmJoe is a good fit for Sarah Palin -- maybe the Palins can hook up with Joe in Alaska and secede from the union.
November 2nd, 2008 at 7:34 pmThey so cavalierly challenge Obama's patriotism and loyalty to the USA when it is people like him, who espouse McCarthyism of the 21st century, and people like the Palins who agree with him and appoint themselves as sole arbiters and judges of others' loyalty - it is they who are un-American and subversive.
Remind me again why this a$$holes opinion matters. He is a known liar and a tax evader and he questions Obama's loyalty
November 2nd, 2008 at 7:37 pmWhy is this bald-headed fraudulent d-bag being asked his opinion on anything , much less a presidential candidate's patriotism ?
BTW
When did this shitstain also become a historical scholar on democracy ?
November 2nd, 2008 at 7:38 pmUnfortunately Joe seems to think Democracy is one party rule and that our leader should be a unitary executive, a King with advisors which is actually anti-democratic.
Joe needs to spend his time reading while palling around with a guy who wants the peoples power.
November 2nd, 2008 at 7:40 pmJoe is a perfect closer for the repubs. . . not a clue and stilling willing to shoot off his mouth to other clueless stupid people.
November 2nd, 2008 at 7:42 pmJoe Blow is just another sick wingnut bigot spewing his extremist BS of hate and fear.. His fear of anything non-white is obvious. Look how he stupidly attacks Obama, when all he fears is a black man.
Joe Blow is a cowardly racist.
November 2nd, 2008 at 7:45 pmJoe, shut up and plunge.
-GSD
November 2nd, 2008 at 7:47 pmJoe is what republicans think of the working class American.
They think we all do common jobs without a license, non-union, and cheat on our taxes.....oh and have lost our drivers license.
They also think we would all sell our soul for a few farthings as joe the plumbers helper has done.
Mistake on thier part.
November 2nd, 2008 at 7:50 pmpost 33 their not thier.
November 2nd, 2008 at 7:53 pmJoe is also a wife beater....now it makes sense why the GOPigs worship him.
November 2nd, 2008 at 7:57 pmDear God, why is this idiot's 15 minutes not over yet? And why are some people (I'm looking at YOU, Faux Noise) treating him like he's some great political poobah?
Sheesh. This is just nauseating.
November 2nd, 2008 at 7:57 pmJOE: Oh you know, his ideology is something that is completely different than what democracy stands for
What does Joe mean by this? Notice he is not explaining it.
This statement could not be further form the truth. Obama is the one that will bring democracy back to we the People.
November 2nd, 2008 at 7:59 pm"[H]is ideology is something that is completely different than what democracy stands for..."
This is just gibberish.
1. What is Sen. Obama's ideology, "Joe?"
2. What does "democracy stand for?"
3. How would an ignoramus like you, "Joe," know any of the answers to the above?
November 2nd, 2008 at 8:07 pmThe man's a spousal abuser
googel: "Joe The Plumber Wife Abuse"
The First entry are the dockets from the Lucas County, Ohio Court from 1997.
This guy is a racist pig without lipstick.
He's also a pretty adept con artist.
November 2nd, 2008 at 8:08 pm#35
Dr. Hussein Matt Says:
Joe is also a wife beater….now it makes sense why the GOPigs worship him.
another excellent find.... explains all.
November 2nd, 2008 at 8:08 pmWhy doesn't anybody ask about his familial relationship to Charles Keating?????
He's a plant. A fake. An obvious shill.
There's still a lot about the financial deals between Hensleys and Keatings that hasn't been completely aired, but the stench can't be masked.
November 2nd, 2008 at 8:10 pmJoe Wurzelbelcher really knows only two things...
1) Sh*t goes downhill, and
2) Payday is on Friday
November 2nd, 2008 at 8:11 pmIn three days he will be another nobody. Keep screaming into the wind Joe, maybe this time things will be different.
November 2nd, 2008 at 8:13 pmJoe the Plummer is going rogue. Joe the Plummber doesn't know Barack Obama. Not from a 3-minute encounter along a rope line. While freedom of speech allows Joe the Plummber to say these things he has no standing so I don't understand why this is treated as a news item.
November 2nd, 2008 at 8:15 pmJoe the Fraud. Joe the Wife Beater. Joe the…
1) Joe is a registered Republican (his name is mistyped in the Lucas County voter file). Here’s the listing, excerpted:
WORZELBACHER, SAMUEL, JOSEPH, ,1973,08/08/2006,R,355 SHREWSBURY ST , ,HOLLAND,OH,43528? Source (download Lucas County voter file, then search for ‘355 Shrewsbury”): http://www2.sos.state.oh.us/cf_ftp/voter_ftp_home?agree_flag=Y#L1481)
2) Joe the Plumber (Samuel Joseph Wurzelbacher) was once, apparently, also a wife-beater:
http://apps.co.lucas.oh.us/onlinedockets/DocketDR.aspx?STYPE=1&PAR=DR19970476&STARTDATE=01/01/1900&ENDDATE=01/01/2100&PARTY=D,1
3) Also, bought his home in August 2008, or at least became the sole owner (another divorce?), assessed at $117,100. Source: http://apps.co.lucas.oh.us/areissummary/report.aspx?Parcel=6562411
November 2nd, 2008 at 8:17 pmhad enough Says:
another excellent find…. explains all.
November 2nd, 2008 at 8:08 pm
Sorry, but as a former clerk of court, I see nothing on that docket sheet that says Joe the Plumber is a wife beater. He got divorced. That's it.
November 2nd, 2008 at 8:18 pmIt says a lot about the current republican braintrust that they're still trotting this idiot out at every opportunity.
November 2nd, 2008 at 8:21 pmThis is merely the breakdown of where the filing fees go. Nothing more.
There's enough to go after this guy for. Let's not start making shit up.
November 2nd, 2008 at 8:21 pmJoesam Wirlitzer is missing a few records.
November 2nd, 2008 at 8:22 pmFox News Alert Says:
Joe Wurzelbelcher really knows only two things…
1) Sh*t goes downhill, and
2) Payday is on Friday
You left off:
November 2nd, 2008 at 8:22 pm3) Don't bite your nails.
4) Hot is on the left and cold is on the right.
OBAL 3/28/1997 COST APPLIED TO : BATTERED WOMEN (3%) - COUNTY (10000230) 10.0
Zooey, what does that mean?
November 2nd, 2008 at 8:23 pmWas Obama actaully on SHREWSBURY ST where he met Joesam, or did Joesam "happen" to appear out of thin air by being planted on the street the Obama was on?
Inquiring minds want to know.
November 2nd, 2008 at 8:23 pmAh. Thanks, Z
November 2nd, 2008 at 8:25 pmDr. Hussein Matt Says:
OBAL 3/28/1997 COST APPLIED TO : BATTERED WOMEN (3%) - COUNTY (10000230) 10.0
Zooey, what does that mean?
November 2nd, 2008 at 8:23 pm
That means as part of the filing fee everyone pays when they get divorced, $10 goes to the County Battered Women's fund (likely the shelter).
That's all it means.
November 2nd, 2008 at 8:26 pmThe Group of Perverts (GOP) says that Obama happened upon JOesam Wirlitzer while Obama walked down his street. Did Obama REALLY walk down SHREWSBURY ST?
November 2nd, 2008 at 8:26 pmHe and Jeff Gannon would make a cute couple.
November 2nd, 2008 at 8:33 pmWho's pauing jow/sam and is he going to file it on taxes?
joe has been watching and listening to palin too much. Just last week she claimed obama's ideology was different. Same words, different people = passed around memos to different heads.
November 2nd, 2008 at 8:35 pmSam Joe may be a tool im so many ways but I would be really hesitant to accuse anyone of spousal abuse.
November 2nd, 2008 at 8:38 pmZooey Says:
Ha ha, Zooey had to defend Joe the plumbers helper.
But seriously,
November 2nd, 2008 at 8:41 pmGood for you Zooey, that takes integrity and class.
>COST APPLIED TO :
>SPECIAL INVESTIGATION (10000190) 50.00
How about this Zo? im still awaiting my law liscense so the actual nitty gritty isnt something i've actually been exposed to yet..
and what about this?
>GEN 3/28/1997 RULE 18, INJUNCTION GRANTED
> SEE JE. 005/513
Injunction granted? What do you think this might be? Possibly a restraining order? I agree Zo that the filings dont prove domestic abuse but I think the subject of this injuction is a possible red flag.. Arent divorce proceedings public? Is there any way someone can do a little more research to see exactly what this injunction is about?.. any Ohio lawyers know what a "Rule 18 injunction" is?
November 2nd, 2008 at 8:41 pmLook at the upside. The more FOX trots out these mental pygmies, the lower their credibility sinks. The man is a national joke that everyone but FOX and a handful of home schooled shut-ins seems to get.
November 2nd, 2008 at 8:43 pmSo has Faux News just flat run out of wingnut pundits willing to say crap like "There’s too many questions with Barack Obama and his loyalty to our country" on camera?
November 2nd, 2008 at 8:48 pmPalin / Joe Plummer 2012
November 2nd, 2008 at 8:49 pm-Cause Merica Don't Need All That Fancy Readin' and Ritin'
Joe the Plumber is insignificant and we should just ignore him. He doesn't deserve any of our attention. When a McCain supporter mentions his name, we should respond "Who?"
November 2nd, 2008 at 8:52 pmThat anyone outside of Bumblephuck, Ohio wants to hear anything from this guy is beyond me, but then again, before August 29th, I probably would have said the same about Princess Wasilla if I'd had the slightest clue who she was before she appeared as McStain's #2 (tee hee, McStain's #2... potty humor runs wild with a young child at home!)
Can't help thinking of Gannon/Guckert when I see this guy.
Sarah and Joe 2012
"Dumb and Plumber"
PEACE
November 2nd, 2008 at 8:53 pmThanks, Fred. :-)
CJ,
If it says "Cost Applied" in front of it, that's part of the filing fee distribution, not part of the divorce case.
Regarding the "Injunction Granted," who knows? I'm in Idaho, and usually an injunction is in regard to something like not allowing the parties to hide or sell assets. OH could be completely different.
It would be best to look at the divorce file. You're right, it would be public, assuming it is closed. However, if there was a protection order, that would be sealed.
November 2nd, 2008 at 8:55 pmJoe's worried about paying taxes but hires a publicist before he has any product like a movie or a song to sell. Publicists work for fees not commissions. What an idiot.
November 2nd, 2008 at 9:01 pmAs Bill Maher says, "Traitors don't get to question my patriotism."
November 2nd, 2008 at 9:06 pmCavuto has gotten pretty desperate here. It is time we flushed this idiot back into the cess he calls his life. With frauds like this telling us what it means to be an American, where is the change?
November 2nd, 2008 at 9:09 pmWhy is this a news story 2 days before one of the most important elections in US history? Why is this POS being given any space in the media? WHY THE F AM I WRITING THIS?!
JTP: As we say in Jersey, "AMF" (that's Spanish dontcha' know...)
November 2nd, 2008 at 9:09 pmYou know, it actually does take some brains to be a plumber. Joe here won't go very far, I'm afraid. You SQUAT about how a democracy really works, either.
November 2nd, 2008 at 9:10 pmOk, that really got mangled. "You don't know SQUAT about how a democracy really works, either.
November 2nd, 2008 at 9:12 pm.
Can we all just agree that Joe should NOT give up his day job?
.
November 2nd, 2008 at 9:13 pm.
Joe needs to pull his head out his plumbers crack.
.
November 2nd, 2008 at 9:14 pm.
As Joe "the" Biden said:
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November 2nd, 2008 at 9:17 pmUnless his boss is an idiot who enjoys being sued, Samjoe the unplumber has already lost his day job, Max. It's hard to find the time for unplumbing when one has become the centerpiece of the worst campaign in history.
November 2nd, 2008 at 9:22 pm.
Plunging deep into retrospective thought, Joe forgot to name just what it is that makes Obama, in his "OPINION", disloyal to America. Forgetting to dislodge that obstruction of his chicken neck, Joe confused "OPINIONS" with "FACTS". Like crappers, everybody has one, just like Joe's "OPINIONS". Fine then, where are his "FACTS"!!!
.
November 2nd, 2008 at 9:26 pmc'mon people, are you really surprised? he is a moron that has exceeded his 15 minutes of fame and is living the high life by exposing his wingnuttery.
November 2nd, 2008 at 9:27 pmWHO CARES?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!
November 2nd, 2008 at 9:28 pmPete,
Joe's really not a plumber. Got a plumbers license?
But that's splitting hairs to the GOP parsing him into some super-duper average America. We all know that he's NOT a plumber, he just wand's to own a plumbing business...
W A N T S - TO - O W N!!!
Or has he already paid those back taxes...
November 2nd, 2008 at 9:29 pmWho cares, but who is this guy really? How much has he been paid by the McCain to show up at the perfect time to insert himself in the campaigns? I'm sure he came cheap. I'm also sure he is a neo-Nazi who hates everyone but white guys like himself.
November 2nd, 2008 at 9:31 pmHow mcchimpy chooses his friends and his running mate says more than the Rev. Wright could ever say.
Two idiots choices in less than two months. I'm not counting his campaign staff which is disastrous.
Please don't give mcchimpy a chance to choose any more.
joe blow is a fake, that's mcchimpy plant.
November 2nd, 2008 at 9:33 pm"His ideology is something that is completely different than what democracy stands for..." Whiskey Tango Foxtrot? I can't even parse that. The guy's running in an election, and is for more democracy than his opposition. Huh?
November 2nd, 2008 at 9:44 pmExactly, Max.
Perhaps his boss will keep him on as a janitor, it appears that he's not competent enough with numbers to do the paperwork, but I don't see how he would be allowed to turn a valve now that everyone in the country knows he's not licensed.
November 2nd, 2008 at 9:57 pmElBruce Says:
"His ideology is something that is completely different than what democracy stands for…" Whiskey Tango Foxtrot? I can't even parse that. The guy's running in an election, and is for more democracy than his opposition. Huh?
No.
he's a flop and an uneducated lying poser which makes him perfect for the repugs. mcchimpy, mooseyak and joeblows need to just stfu if they don't have positive shyte to say about Sen. Obama.
November 2nd, 2008 at 9:58 pmYa know, I supported McCain in 2000. Really thought he would be a good Pres. Who the hell is that man and who are these sub-human morons with which he has surrounded himself? My GOD. Who would let someone this utterly stupid be a surroge?
The only thing that keeps it from being a surprise is that he DID choose Palin.
November 2nd, 2008 at 10:00 pmOh look, now the docket link isnt working. Did we hit a nerve somewhere? someones got that page mirrored already i hope!
Keep digging people, the files should be open!
I wonder what that injunction was about... the word injunction is a very ambigious term, especially in family law..it could be anythign from an order not to sell assets, to a restraining order, to a an order for one party not to enter the property the other party is currently live in..
somethign stinks..keep digging folks.. i'll bet anything the
divorce was not "no fault", I wonder what grounds the wife alleged....that should be a matter of public record..
this guy is a scumbag and a criminal, i really do feel it in my gut..
someone write his ex-wife a letter.. i bet she would LOVE to tell her story...
November 2nd, 2008 at 10:10 pmsince that court link seems to have my mysteriously shut down, here is the info on the link, so you guys can keep digging! by the way, it looks like this case took almost half a year to resolve, so it definitely WASNT amicable or uncontested....
LUCAS COUNTY COURT OF COMMON PLEAS
DOMESTIC RELATION DIVISION
J. BERNIE QUILTER, CLERK
429 N. MICHIGAN STREET
TOLEDO, OHIO
Appearance Docket
DR19970476
Appearance Docket
DR19970476 TIME: 10:18:12 PM
DATE: 10/16/2008
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Case No: DR19970476 WURZELBACHER/JENNIFER/P vs WURZELBACHER/SAMUEL/J
Filing Date: 3/28/1997
Type: DIVORCE
Judge: LEWANDOWSKI/DAVID/
Status: POST DECREE
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Party Counsel
Plaintiff:
WURZELBACHER JENNIFER P
7671 EAST TANG VE VERDE'
APT 429
TUSCON AZ 857150000 RUST JOHN G
4628 LEWIS AVENUE
TOLEDO AZ 857150000
Defendant:
WURZELBACHER SAMUEL J
7671 EAST TANG VE VERDE'
APT 429
TUCSON AZ 857150000
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Docket Code Date
Description
Amount
OBAL 3/28/1997 COST APPLIED TO : CLRS (10000140) 3.00
OBAL 3/28/1997 COST APPLIED TO : LEGAL NEWS (10000130) 10.00
OBAL 3/28/1997 COST APPLIED TO : SHELTER (10000260) 32.00
OBAL 3/28/1997 COST APPLIED TO : COURT COSTS (10000100) 30.00
OBAL 3/28/1997 COST APPLIED TO : BATTERED WOMEN (3%) - COUNTY (10000230) 10.00
OBAL 3/28/1997 COST APPLIED TO : COMPUTERIZATION (10000250) 10.00
OBAL 3/28/1997 COST APPLIED TO : SPECIAL INVESTIGATION (10000190) 50.00
OBAL 3/28/1997 COST APPLIED TO : MICROFILM (10000210) 10.00
GEN 3/28/1997 COMPLAINT FOR DIVORCE FILED
GEN 3/28/1997 RULE 18, INJUNCTION GRANTED SEE JE. 005/513
GEN 3/28/1997 SUMMONS & COPY OF COMP. SENT CERT. MAIL #P169-051-664 TO: SAMUEL WURZELBACHER, 30 DERBYSHIRE RD. TOLEDO, OH. 43615.
GEN 3/28/1997 SCHEDULES I,II,III & IV FILED & SENT WITH COMPLT
GEN 4/3/1997 RETURN RECEIVED FROM SHERIFF AS FOLLOWS: SERVED SAMUEL WURZELBACHER 04-02-97. FEES $4.50.
GEN 4/4/1997 COMPLAINT RETURN RECEIPT CERTIFIED MAIL #P169-051-664 SIGNED BY "ILLEGIBLE" 04-03-97.
GEN 5/27/1997 ****CASE DISMISSED W/O PREJ. [PL] TO PAY. SEE JE 5-27-97 V-229 P-359 1-PG
OBAL 7/23/2001 COST APPLIED TO : REFUND (10000220) 55.00
OBAL 7/23/2001 COST APPLIED TO : COURT COSTS (10000100) 12.00
Disclaimer : The public record information available here reflects the docket entries and journals required by Ohio law to be kept by the Lucas County Clerk of the Court of Common Pleas. This information reflects the actual documents filed and kept at the Clerk of Courts Legal Division, located in the Lucas County Courthouse, at Adams and Erie Streets in Toledo, Ohio, 43624. The data entry, though generally deemed reliable, cannot be guaranteed. The information may appear on the Internet Docket before the entry is actually signed and journalized. Of course the proposed action is official only when signed and journalized. In no event shall the Lucas County Clerk of the Court of Common Pleas, or any other Lucas County department, agency, or official be held liable for damage of any nature, direct or indirect, arising from the use of this Internet product; including loss of profits, loss of savings, or other incidental or consequential damages.
November 2nd, 2008 at 10:16 pmtesting..
November 2nd, 2008 at 10:29 pmIn the docket history above, it looks like the injunction was granted on the same day as joe first got the summmons, which means the injunction was most likely obtained Ex Parte (i.e. without joe being allowed to appear on his own behalf)..which means it was most likely an emergency order, as usually only emergencey orders allow an ex parte hearing, since a hearing without one side present has a higher likelyhood of being intrinsictly unfair…
November 2nd, 2008 at 10:31 pmthe plot thickens.,.i wonder what joe did to merit having this emergency injunction granted against him…i’m with the original poster on this one, my money is on domestic abuse
November 2nd, 2008 at 10:32 pmemergencey orders in family law usually stem from a party being violent or fraudelently handling community property..
November 2nd, 2008 at 10:32 pmIt's astounding that an absolute nobody, who lied about himself, can be placed on a political pedestal by the McCain/Palin campaign. This goof is now an expert on a presidential candidate's patriotism? Good Lord. MCain/Palin should be denounced forever-- how dare they, through their phony supporters, question the patriotism of others, especially a presidential candidate? McCain, you have belittled & shamed yourself so much, you will never recover.
November 2nd, 2008 at 10:34 pmoopps.. small correction above.. it looks like the injunction was granted BEFORE joe was served with the complaint, so its almost certain this injunction was an emergencey one..
November 2nd, 2008 at 10:35 pmJoe the plumber... he's one of us right? Oh wait, I make the typical American income of $x and he makes 5 times that!
November 2nd, 2008 at 10:37 pmAnd he's saying it's not the American way to tax him more than I get taxed. So he's saying flat tax? Is McCain proposing a flat tax? That a minimum wage earner pays the same percentage as the CEOs making millions per year (I'm a capitalist, but when I of think these CEO salaries I think the fix is in)?
I'm thinkin' he's not talking about Obama's tax plan when he question's Obama's patriotism. I think it's racism, combined with bias triggered by Obama's middle name. And "news" organizations like Fox have so many obscene dog whistles such as this...I am ashamed they are allowed to broadcast.
jesus... i dunno... maybe ought not exert so much energy on such...
i heard an interview with a relative... the ex still lives in michigan? or alaska?
joe has custody of his son, right?
heard another interview on ed schultz, joe's "aunt" called in, she's a truck driver... said joe was mostly harmless...
i'm not so sure about that... but it's obvious the "fame" has gone to his head...
i mean, he had his best Carhart shirt on the other day...
November 2nd, 2008 at 10:42 pmafter sleeping in, no-show at a mcpalin rally...
GrandmaSheila
on 10/17/2008
posted:
Check the public record
November 2nd, 2008 at 11:01 pmhttp://apps.co.lucas.oh.us/onlinedockets/default.a ...
Case No. Name
G-4801-LN-200707076-000 WURZELBACHER SAMUEL Hospital bill
G-4801-LN-200701803-000 WURZELBACHER SAMUEL J Tax lien
DR19970476 WURZELBACHER SAMUEL J 1997 divorce
DM20065458 WURZELBACHER SAMUEL J 2006 dissolution, with domestic violence, dismissed
Apparently the news media has no requirements, no standards for punditry.
They should issue a disclaimer if they're going to push a campaign narrative.
When does Joe get his shopping spree at Neiman Marcus?
November 2nd, 2008 at 11:10 pmWhy are we listening to a bald-headed bozo who's not even registered to vote nor licensed to be a plumber?
November 2nd, 2008 at 11:19 pmJoe the plumber is an idiot. He's a nothing made up by McCain. Why this airhead is even being interviewed is beyond me.
November 2nd, 2008 at 11:20 pm>DM20065458 WURZELBACHER SAMUEL J 2006 dissolution, with >domestic violence, dismissed
There you go, that explains the emergencey exparte injunction.
Almost certainly it was because of domestic violence.
Joe "The Wife Beating Plumber"....a perfect spokesman for McCain..
Hussien, thanks for digging up this link, Zoey, thanks for keeping the critique from being misdirected..
KEEP DIGGING FOLKS!
November 2nd, 2008 at 11:41 pmby the way, the "dismissed" merely means that the divorce was finally "resolved out of court" so to speak..it doesnt in any way mean that the allegations of domestic abuse his wife made were determined to be untrue..in fact, the fact that a judge granted his wifes ex parte injunction probably means he found her claims of physical abuse to have merit
November 2nd, 2008 at 11:46 pmDR19970476 WURZELBACHER SAMUEL J 1997 divorce
DM20065458 WURZELBACHER SAMUEL J 2006 dissolution, with domestic violence, dismissed
wait..look at the dates... this creep was married TWICE! at least.... and wait...ok...wow..i was a little confused..
ok, so one of this wives got an emergency injunction against him, most likely a restraining order, and 9 years later ANOTHER of his wives made allegations of domestic abuse in the divorce proceeding...
whats the correct title for someone who beats thier multiple wives? "wives beater"?
November 2nd, 2008 at 11:50 pmor
PERFECT..REPUBLICAN..SPOKESMAN..
By the way, Joe....F$ck you.
November 2nd, 2008 at 11:58 pmAre Joe and his agent still working on that deal for him to read a book?
November 3rd, 2008 at 12:05 amI question the loyalty of someone who refuses to pay his income tax.
November 3rd, 2008 at 12:26 amJoe the Plumber, meet Chauncey the gardener.
November 3rd, 2008 at 12:32 amJoe the Plumber, an Archie Bunker for the 21st century.
November 3rd, 2008 at 12:33 amJoe, could you please give our televiewing audience your opinion of Stephen Hawking's latest description of black holes? Joe, Joe! Less Filling? Tastes Great? Boxers? or Briefs? Tell me Joe, what do you want to make sure is included in your hero sandwich? Just ham and cheese? A lot of ham and cheese. Ok Joe. A cuppa Joe. No Joebama! Can I call you Uncle Sam?
Chocolate Jesus, you're jumping to some wrong conclusions.
As Zooey explained above, the fees breakdown is statutory and has nothing to do with the divorce per se. In Ohio, a portion of all divorce filing fees goes to all those various government agencies. That's all that means.
Next, an injunction at that stage of the proceedings looks more perfunctory than anything else. When one files for a divorce, there is an automatic injunction against the disposal of assets.
And, if you look at the title of the action, only one woman is named. It's not two separate divorces. The court can maintain jurisdiction for years after a divorce, to see to it that assets, such as pensions, for example, are distributed according to the divorce decree.
Joe the Plumber is enough of a schmuck without having to jump to any conclusions based on an incomplete knowledge of the facts. I mean, look what happened when McCain put the B girl into the media spotlight. It turned out to be bogus. From the looks of it, Joe got a divorce, or, more appropriately, his wife filed for and got the divorce. I guess that makes him the perfect spokesperson for Republican Family Values, right?
November 3rd, 2008 at 12:39 amSomeone who refuses to pay taxes to their country is in no position to impugn anyone else's patriotism.
Someone who claims to be what they aren't is in no position to question anybody else's integrity.
This man is an idiot, a fraud, and a hypocrite.
November 3rd, 2008 at 12:44 amI question Sam-Joe the Almost-Plumber's qualification to have a public venue for his opinion on anything of import.
He seems easily disoriented. I think maybe he's inhaled the vapors of one too many urinal cookie.
Heck, I'm not sure I'd trust his professional opinion on which side of the water closet to locate the flush handle for a left-hander. The complexity of the problem would exceed the limits of his cerebral capabilities.
November 3rd, 2008 at 12:55 amThis fool is Bo Dietl with no hair. And, he clearly knows about as much about his 'area of expertise' as that clown of a former New York City Police detective does about this issues he pontificates cluelessly about.
Why does FOX News elevate such characters—and caricatures—to the national stage?
November 3rd, 2008 at 1:03 amNixon's "plumbers" were not really plumbers either but, that doesn't mean Samjoe is a burglar. I think before one can jump to a conclusion of spousal abuse one would need, at least, a formal charge or a sworn statement from the ex. And even then it would be best to wait for a conviction before leveling such a serious charge. Let's just hope that we never have to hear from Samjoe the unplumber after Tuesday.
November 3rd, 2008 at 1:08 amJoe the Plumber, report to 333 Broad St. to break up a floater with your plunger.
-Dispatch
November 3rd, 2008 at 1:12 amWhile we are questioning peoples Patriotism. What has J.T.P.
do for his country?
What selfish need does Joe the Plumber serve John McCain?
JTP is using his platorm McCain gives him to bash Obama so John the Maverick can try to be the positive soothsayer?
Ans JTP trades his slop mouth to try to gain his own stardome to profit monetarily. Their America?
Not Mine,
November 3rd, 2008 at 3:34 amRobt the commentor
Come November 5, Joe the (so called) Plumber will be on the ash heap of history.
¶ AIO
November 3rd, 2008 at 4:15 amI too have opinions but they are no more or less than any other person's in the country who is not directly working in the government at some level. This "Joe the plumber" is not worth any of the time given to him. What are his qualifications? Same as mine or mine might be better since I am educated somewhat as an historian and have been elected a library trustee. That is still not a qualification for commentary let alone nationwide exposure.
November 3rd, 2008 at 6:14 amWhy is Joe the Plumber on Cuvato show anyway? What can be learned for this so called The Plumber?
Joe's story does not add up starting with him being an invester to later attacking Obama over Israel's survival,and now he has doubts about Obama's loyalty....
Who is this guy that Fox and the McCain campaign giving him so much attention?
Did anybody check to see if Joe has 2 million dollars to buy a plumbing business?
Is he doing any plumbing lately?
He can't be doing plumbing on Cuvato show and travelling with McCain and Sarah..
It is really sad that McCain made the plumber the core of his campaign. A plumber's story that has no legs.
November 3rd, 2008 at 6:25 amThey may already be a couple in the wink-wink sense. And in reality they are a couple of tax-evading, hypocritical, paid
G(roup)O(f)P(ervert) plants.
motorfingaz Says:
November 3rd, 2008 at 6:34 amHe and Jeff Gannon would make a cute couple.
So now (not)Joe (not)the Plumber is (not)an expert on democratic ideology?
(not)Joe, who owes back taxes, who is (not)going to buy a quarter-million dollar business ia now a spokesperson for the McCain campaign.
(not)Joe knows about as much about the issues as Sarah Palin, so I guess that makes him a perfect spokesperson for what a Palin/McCain, Presidency would amount to.
And we should be calling it like it is; it is not Joe the Plumber, it is Sam the Slacker.
November 3rd, 2008 at 6:59 amA plumber makes a fitting symbol for a party that's gone down the toilet.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBoOqysiLFo
November 3rd, 2008 at 7:19 amI have never felt patriotic paying taxes, but I do believe they are necessary and needed. If you don't want to pay taxes, leave the country. They are used to keep this country rolling. You can't live in a house or apartment for free, why would anyone think they should live in a country like the USA and not have to give something back? Idiot reich-wingers...
November 3rd, 2008 at 7:52 amIs Joe the next Kato Kaelin?
November 3rd, 2008 at 8:27 amIf this troglodyte lived in the past he would have been:
A Tory loyalist during the Revolutionary War.
November 3rd, 2008 at 8:38 amA turncoat traitor during the War of 1812.
A slave trader from the antebellum South.
A Confederate secessionist during the Civil War.
A KKK terrorist during Reconstruction.
A robber baron during the gilded age.
A Pinkerton fink during the labor struggles.
A red-baiting McCarthyist during the fabulous 50s.
A Rethuglican operative now and forever.
The GOP is unable to draw up plans to restore wellness in this country so they draw up cartoon characters like "Joe the Plumber" to create the illusion of giving a damn about this country. I'm sick of the sloganeering. I'm sick of the gimmicks. I'm sick of Mr. Clean when he's anything but. 6AM tomorrow I am casting my ballot for Obama/Biden, Mark Warner (Senate), and Bill Day (House).
In 48 hours the long last gasp of the GOP will finally result in their death as a major party. The next task will be to marginalize people of bad influence in this country (marginalize, because you can't fix stupid) so they never again disturb progressives in their work to make this country shine.
The GOP has one brand of expertise, luring people to vote against their own interests out of fear.
November 3rd, 2008 at 9:05 amMcWars: I had no idea we lived in the same Commonwealth! 6AM tomorrow, I'm casting my ballot (and my wife is casting hers, and my 18-year-old first-time-voting son is casting his) for Obama/Biden, Mark Warner (Senate) and Gerry Connolly (House).
Can't wait to see Virginia be totally blue for the first time in a long time...
November 3rd, 2008 at 9:29 amJOE: Oh you know, his ideology is something that is completely different than what democracy stands for, so I had some question there.
November 3rd, 2008 at 9:34 am....................................
Joe's plumbing the depths of ignorance ! No more than a series of tubes , Joes insticts tell him our democracy is headed for the $hitter .
Mr. Wurzelbacher, acting as an element of his republican affiliates, are approaching an efficacy, that, in the early 20th century defined patterns of pain, scarring, and conflict to this day.
November 3rd, 2008 at 10:36 amfletc3her says: "I question Joe's intelligence"
Joe has intelligence?
You are going to have to PROVE that.
BTE Joe; You said that McPutz bled for his country, implying that Obama would not.
What service did YOU do? *crickets chirping*
Thought so.
November 3rd, 2008 at 11:34 amThe Dogfather Says:
McWars: I had no idea we lived in the same Commonwealth! 6AM tomorrow, I’m casting my ballot (and my wife is casting hers, and my 18-year-old first-time-voting son is casting his) for Obama/Biden, Mark Warner (Senate) and Gerry Connolly (House).
Can’t wait to see Virginia be totally blue for the first time in a long time…
TD, sorry for the late response. Your comment gave me further hope that my vote will be of value. You have the whole family going in to vote for progressive candidates, that collective action is a really good sign. I look forward to tallying the Virginia residents here at TP who've casted their ballots.
I hope your wait isn't too long!
November 3rd, 2008 at 3:13 pmole joe the plumber has as many working brain cells between his ears and he has hair on his head
November 3rd, 2008 at 7:03 pmJoe the (lying) Plumber is making the paycheck for saying these things and the (Liberal?) media puts him on.
Joe last comment on the clip is about Obama's ideology is not democracy.
Can someone get JTP to explain what he thinks is democracy?
Maybe we can get JTP to explain what America is TO HIM...?
November 4th, 2008 at 3:15 am