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Bolton Decries ‘Reverse Intimidation’: GOP Poll Watchers, Not Minorities, Are The Ones Actually Being Harassed

Today on Fox News, host Megyn Kelly continued to rail against voting rights laws meant to protect Americans’ voting rights. Her guest, former U.N. ambassador and key 2000 Florida recount player John Bolton, was angry at the fact that there weren’t more criminal prosecutors at polling places. In fact, according to Bolton, GOP poll watchers, not minorities, are the ones who need protection:

BOLTON: There’s kind of a reverse intimidation going on. People who go and try to be poll watchers and keep fraudulently registered people from voting. They’re being told they’re intimidating minorities; it’s a form of political incorrectness.

Really, voting is an act of civic responsibility and making sure that only legitimate people votes is a very important aspect of this. Yet many Republican poll watchers, we’ve already heard, are being intimidated in their own right.

Watch it:

The right wing is heavily pushing this meme today. In particular, they’re pointing to GOP poll watchers in Philadelphia being asked to leave a polling place, allegedly because they were “in the minority” party in a heavily Democratic area. But even a reporter from Kelly’s own network debunked this myth today, saying they were asked to leave simply because it was crowded. Watch it:

Both Democrats and Republicans have deployed thousands of lawyers around the country today to watch for voting shenanigans. However, stationing Justice Department prosecutors at polls does more harm than good — despite Kelly’s claims — as the agency concluded in September when it rolled back John Ashcroft’s policy of doing so. These prosecutors are often untrained in voter protection and may discourage people from voting out of fear of harassment. The Progress Report has more on the myth of voter fraud. LCCR has put together resources here if you have any concerns or questions about voting.

Transcript:

KELLY: You know and I know, having practiced law, that if you want to find a way to challenge something, you can do it as a lawyer. There’s always — When it comes to voting, there’s always something you can complain about. So, will today’s result come down to the margin of victory? In other words, we only get the lawyers heavily involved if its tight. That’s what happened in Florida with you.

BOLTON: Right. Well, you’ve already seen some signs of that today. There’s kind of a reverse intimidation going on. People who go and try to be poll watchers and keep fraudulently registered people from voting. They’re being told they’re intimidating minorities; it’s a form of political incorrectness.

Really, voting is an act of civic responsibility and making sure that only legitimate people votes is a very important aspect of this. Yet many Republican poll watchers, we’ve already heard, are being intimidated in their own right.

KELLY What is so wrong with provisional ballots? If you show up at your polling station and there’s a discrepancy between you name and your address and so on, they no longer turn you away. They give you a provisional ballot, it goes off to the side, and if the election is tight and those ballots are needed, they’ll count them. And if they’re legitimate, they’ll count. So what is the fundamental objection to them?

BOLTON: Because I think it adds another root to the potential casting of many thousands of fraudulent ballots state-by state. If you don’t care enough to make sure your voting information is correct, I think that says something about the nature of your involvement in the process. I do think states could go a lot further in requiring positive identification, picture IDs, that kinds of thing, which we know is constitutional. That way people can be decided right there. You don’t have to go the provisional ballot route.



110 Responses to “Bolton Decries ‘Reverse Intimidation’: GOP Poll Watchers, Not Minorities, Are The Ones Actually Being Harassed”

  1. Witch1 says:

    Yike’s!…Some one turn on the light’s so the walrus will go back in hiding…Blessings


  2. pablito says:

    Yuck.. John Bolton. For all his history of screaming and ranting you wouldn’t think that when it came down to it he is just deathly afraid of an ethnic/racial minority person intimidating him. That’s what this nonsense is all about, same old thing as the likening of Obama to anything dangerous or angry.

    Can’t come quickly enough… this election is going to say a permanent buh-bye to the wingnuts.



  3. Max-1 says:

    .

    So it’s the GOP that’s being harassed…?

    As Rover said, “Blame your opposition of what you do.”

    … Nuff said!!!

    Got ACORN?

    .


  4. DidHeJustSayThat says:

    If your party is at the polls trying to suppress the vote in an election like, it may be intimidating.

    Oh, the travesty.


  5. pablito says:

    tom, Thanks for that link. I just read it. So right. I have been hoping for so long that my children won’t have to grow up under the long shadow of the republican nightmare that we’ve all been experiencing for the past 8 years.


  6. impeachcheneythenbush says:

    First of all, it’s NOT the poll watchers’ job to prevent fraudulently registered voters from voting. That’s the job of the registrar and the poll workers. Poll watchers are there to ensure that votes aren’t suppressed, switched electronically, or help those who may run into problems at the polls. In other words, they are there to guard the right to vote, not prevent it.


  7. shoeless says:

    Isn’t it amazing how quickly bullies begin to cry when someone finally stands up to the thugs?


  8. Nevar says:

    BOLTON: “Right. Well, you’ve already seen some signs of that today. There’s kind of a reverse intimidation going on.”

    By virtue of Bolton labeling poll watching as reverse intimidation , he is apparently acknowledging the voter intimidation of previous elections.


  9. shoeless says:

    impeachcheneythenbush Says:
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    In other words, they are there to guard the right to vote, not prevent it.

    You must not know any Republicans.


  10. gummitch says:

    Nevar Says:

    BOLTON: “Right. Well, you’ve already seen some signs of that today. There’s kind of a reverse intimidation going on.”

    By virtue of Bolton labeling poll watching as reverse intimidation , he is apparently acknowledging the voter intimidation of previous elections.

    Indeed. GOPers don’t like it when they’re on the wrong end, and they start whining like little babies. Victims!


  11. impeachcheneythenbush says:

    shoeless Says:

    impeachcheneythenbush Says:
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    In other words, they are there to guard the right to vote, not prevent it.

    You must not know any Republicans.

    I’m speaking of the traditional roll of a poll watcher…not the kind the Republicans like to call “poll watchers,” which operate only to suppress the vote. I live in Southwest Florida….I, unfortunately, am surrounded by far too many Republicans!!


  12. Shinning Light says:

    Yes, #8, shoeless, this is a preview of the next 8 years. The Repigs are going to become experts in victim hood, whining, and foot stomping.


  13. shoeless says:

    I was talking to a Republican this morning, and told him how good it was for our democracy that we would have record turn out for the election. He replied to the effect that he thinks way too many people vote, and we should really do something about it.


  14. misshusseinmolly says:

    I suspect that Kelly, Bolton, and others are just getting their excuses lined up for when Obama wins the election.

    We will hear bleating and whining from this crowd for some time to come, as in — “we would have been able to stop millions of non-voters from voting fraudulently if only the poll workers hadn’t been intimidated (or if there had been more criminal prosecutors, or whatever sillyass excuse we can come up with).”

    When Obama wins, you can count on the wingnuts to make claims of widespread voter fraud, with absolutely no evidence to back it up.

    Speaking of which, it’s almost quarter to one here on the east coast, and the polls have been open for a few hours now. How many people have been hauled away for attempting to vote fraudulently so far?


  15. Gregor Samsa says:

    You know you are a conservative Bushbot when facts and evidence are optional in discussing the events of the day.


  16. LividLib says:

    Blah, blah, blah…

    What is this? The Lt. Hotlips Hoolahan and Maj Frank Burns Show?

    Jeebus! Just shut the fukc up!


  17. LibertyLover says:

    Well, Bolton would certainly know about intimidation, since he was among the group of door pounders that stormed the elections office in Florida in 2000 while they were trying to count the hanging chads. He is very recognizable in the videos.
    Sent by KKKArl Rove, he certainly made his presence known.


  18. impeachcheneythenbush says:

    Shoeless, it sounds like the Republican you spoke to would like to take the U.S. back to it’s very earliest incarnation.

    U.S. Voting Rights

    When the Constitution was written, only white male property owners (about 10 to 16 percent of the nation’s population) had the vote. Over the past two centuries, though, the term “government by the people” has become a reality. During the early 1800s, states gradually dropped property requirements for voting. Later, groups that had been excluded previously gained the right to vote. Other reforms made the process fairer and easier.
    1790
    1790 Only white male adult property-owners have the right to vote.

    http://www.infoplease.com/timelines/voting.html


  19. mary says:

    Enjoy your last few hours of delusion Darryl.


  20. shoeless says:

    A guy called Bill Press this morning to tell about his run in with a Republican thug. He and his wife, working for the campign of Dan Seals in the suburbs north of Chicago, were placing campaign signs outside a polling place. The Rethug said they couldn’t put their signs there, and tore them up. Rather than beat the crap out of the a-hole, this guy called the cops, who came to the poll and took the Rethug away in handcuffs.

    I guess getting arrested counts as intimidation.


  21. Uncle Ho says:

    Can we change Obama’s inaugeration to Nov 5, 2008?


  22. misshusseinmolly says:

    shoeless Says
    November 4th, 2008 at 12:33 pm

    I was talking to a Republican this morning, and told him how good it was for our democracy that we would have record turn out for the election. He replied to the effect that he thinks way too many people vote, and we should really do something about it.
    ___________________________________________________________

    What does he suggest? Repealing the 15th, 19th, 24th, and 26th amendments?

    It wouldn’t surprise me. There are a lot of people who want to return to “the good old days” — I just didn’t know that meant the antebellum days.


  23. gummitch says:

    RaptureReady Says:

    Actually, I skeptical about you Dems. In correlation with ACORN, I believe that a lot of voting fraud is being conducted right now. No worries, we have lawyers in each state that are prepared to appeal once the locations close.

    Hey, it’s Daryll! ACORN registered voters, dopey. If some of those people registered a fraudulent name, they’ll be caught at the polling place — or never show up at all.

    The only real voting fraud in this country is voter suppression, which is something only Republicans do.


  24. stormkite says:

    It’s obviously Democracy 2.0, The Rise of The Republicans.

    Poll Watchers prevent voters, the First Amendment protects government from citizens who might call them on stupidity.

    “War is Peace; Freedom is Slavery; Ignorance is Strength, Republicans are Patriots.”


  25. Nevar says:

    The tide is turning folks, not all Republicans are lost!
    http://kob.com/article/stories/S646015.shtml?cat=500


  26. LibertyLover says:

    Her guest, former recess- appointed (because congress wouldn’t confirm him) U.N. ambassador and key 2000 Florida recount player John Bolton…

    There fixed it for you.


  27. Red Pill says:

    This time tomorrow, Bolton and all those who share his bankrupt world view will be completely irrelevant.

    That thought makes me smile.


  28. ralph the wonder llama says:

    RaptureReady Says:

    Actually, I skeptical about you Dems.

    Big surprise there.

    In correlation with ACORN, I believe that a lot of voting fraud is being conducted right now.

    In the absence of real evidence, belief can always be relied upon, eh, Daryll?


  29. mary says:

    Somebody is in denial alright Darryl!

    As Joe would say:

    Good luck.


  30. shoeless says:

    RaptureReady Says:
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    I have a funny feeling that Senator McCain will win. I even had a dream, two weeks ago, that Senator McCain suprisingly one the election.

    Is this like the hilarious feeling you had when God was pulling your leg by telling you that Huckabee would be the next president?

    That God, he sure is funny.


  31. ralph the wonder llama says:

    RaptureReady Says:

    Your notion is funny and sad, at the same time. Somebody is in denial about the results.

    Somebody’s in denial, all right.


  32. Chris LeJeune says:

    RaptureReady Says:

    I have a funny feeling that Senator McCain will win. I even had a dream, two weeks ago, that Senator McCain suprisingly one the election.
    ########

    At least in your dream he never “won” the election. I think he will definitely “one” the election because he will get “one” vote.


  33. shoeless says:

    RaptureReady Says:
    ——————————————————————————–
    Fox News did a report about Democrats…

    Get out! Really? Fox News did a report about Democrats?!?!


  34. Mr. Evil says:

    “One” the election. That’s so damn funny! Keep talking Sarah RaptureReady.


  35. ralph the wonder llama says:

    RaptureReady Says:
    Uncle Ho Says:

    Can we change Obama’s inaugeration to Nov 5, 2008?

    Don’t you mean McCain?

    Don’t you mean President-elect Huckabee?


  36. DRxJ says:

    Bolton’s a PUSS!

    ’nuff said.


  37. mary says:

    Anybody see those scenes of empty McCain campaign offices last night?

    It was almost sad.

    Almost.


  38. gummitch says:

    RaptureReady Says:

    I do not trust those verifying the names of each individual, especially in the larger cities. Fox News did a report about Democrats sending their seeds to do this job.

    That’s your biggest problem, Daryll: you watch Fox News. Try tuning into a real network sometime so you’re not swimming in propaganda.


  39. Chris LeJeune says:

    RaptureReady Says:

    My dreams usually happen in reality.
    #####

    I know a great rehab program for that.


  40. mary says:

    Daryll – here’s your chance for redemption! Come to the light!

    You’ll be glad you did.


  41. Nevar says:

    The religious extremist threat level, as determined by the Department of Irrational Insecurities, is RED.
    Please report any unattended proselytizing materials, or suspicious behavior, to your nearest uniformed goon.

    “May I see your boarding pass and identification sir?”
    “Let’s see, Paradise Errorways, flight 666, and you are Daryll Dillweed… step through the archway please…”
    (Annk-annk-annk-annk-annk)
    “Follow the guards into this cubicle, Mr. Dillwad, and remove your outer clothing… my goodness, that’s a lot of bullion, I’m surprised you can even stand up. You know the rules, Mr. Dipwits, you can’t take it with you when you go. Looks like you are going to be Left Behind.”


  42. LibertyLover says:

    Actually I fear for RapturefearfulReady and the Republican party… they both keep moving in circles that are continually getting smaller.


  43. IgnoranceIsNotBliss says:

    I take everything Bolten has to say the same way I do with Daryll: with less than a grain of salt.


  44. shoeless says:

    RaptureReady Says:
    ——————————————————————————–
    My dreams usually happen in reality.

    My dreams usually happen when I’m asleep. That oxycontin much be some good shit.


  45. stefan says:

    I really saw this AM when I voted how ridiculous the ‘vote fraud’ meme is.

    Where I voted every person who votes is checked against a list, and signs their name. That means only one registered person per vote – and if a second person shows up with the same name/address there’s an obvious problem to be resolved – i.e. they can’t just cast votes willy-nilly. Adding bogus names is stupid – the amount of effort required to get a single bogus name on the list and then have one person show up to vote for that bogus person is ludicrous. Where would they come from? Any scenario that gives you enough valid votes to even slightly shift an election is simply absurd.

    Also we used paper ballots with marking pens. I realized that with electronic voting you MUST use a working machine to vote. No machine, no vote until it’s free (and working of course). But with paper and pen all you need is a spare table – at my polling site there must have been twenty five or more people all ‘voting’ at the same time, scattered through an auditorium. There was only a quick line through the scanner machine and I was done.

    What that implies is that simply using electronic voting machines – even fully functional and honest – limits the number of people who can vote and makes for longer lines, decreasing participation.


  46. misshusseinmolly says:

    RaptureReady Says
    November 4th, 2008 at 12:41 pm

    “Actually, I skeptical about you Dems.”
    – I skeptical about you, too. So we’re even.

    “In correlation with ACORN…”
    – Huh? What does that mean?

    “…I believe that a lot of voting fraud is being conducted right now.”
    – It’s your right to believe as you wish, but merely believing something doesn’t make it so. You could also “believe” that the moon is shrinking, but that doesn’t make it a fact. Do you have any convincing evidence?

    “No worries, we have lawyers in each state that are prepared to appeal once the locations close.”
    – Huh? Don’t lawyers generally file an appeal only after they have lost a case?

    Daryll, do you even KNOW what you’re talking about today? Your post appears to be mostly gibberish.


  47. ralph the wonder llama says:

    RaptureReady Says:

    My dreams usually happen in reality. I’m not stating that is accurate, but there is a great chance that Sen. McCain will win.

    Daryll, I got to tell you this, since none of your family or close friends will — that’s NOT “reality”. Dreams don’t “happen” in reality. They happen when your mind is in a sleep state known as REM sleep.

    True, some people have difficulty distinguishing one state from the other, and apparently you are one of those. Hence your durable insistence on “President-elect Huckabee” in the face of overwhelming evidence that he would not win even the Republican primary.

    But we’re here to help, Daryll, if you want it.


  48. stateofthedivision says:

    The question is who is telling these “poll watchers” they’re interferring with citizen’s voting? Is it poll workers, actual voters, or other poll watchers?

    The brownshirts, I mean blue shirted-Khaki clad enforcers of Republican rule are back.

    Bolton doesn’t care about all citizen’s right to vote. He wants his blue shirts to intimidate voters, causing incredibly long lines in areas not likely to vote for his side.


  49. Uncle Ho says:

    Daryll; delusional to the bitter end.


  50. ralph the wonder llama says:

    RaptureReady Says:

    mary Says:

    Anybody see those scenes of empty McCain campaign offices last night?

    It was almost sad.

    Almost.

    This is Hussein’s fault for breaking a promise. Hussein gave a verbal agreement that he would only accept public finacing. Hussein broke his promise and received record funds from left wing lunnies, terrorists and foreigners. By breaking his promise, this put him completely ahead of Sen. McCain on campaign funds. Do you really trust Hussein?

    Just curious, Daryll; why do you refer to Obama by his middle name, but not McCain? If you were being consistent, shouldn’t you call McCain “Sidney”?

    And how is it Obama’s fault that McCain’s campaign offices were dark and empty on the night before the election?

    And one more thing; what’s a “lunnie”?


  51. Max-1 says:

    .

    … I’m sorry,
    Did Darryyl say something?

    .


  52. Gregor Samsa says:

    RaptureReady babbles:
    [news like MSNBC] constantly create false claims.

    Pot. Meet kettle.


  53. Fred says:

    RaptureReady Says:
    I do not trust those verifying the names of each individual, especially in the larger cities. Fox News did a report about Democrats sending their seeds to do this job.

    Double belly laugh. faux news….report. ha. thanks you’re funny..


  54. shoeless says:

    misshusseinmolly Says:
    ——————————————————————————–

    shoeless Says
    November 4th, 2008 at 12:33 pm

    I was talking to a Republican this morning, and told him how good it was for our democracy that we would have record turn out for the election. He replied to the effect that he thinks way too many people vote, and we should really do something about it.
    ___________________________________________________________

    What does he suggest? Repealing the 15th, 19th, 24th, and 26th amendments?

    No, he didn’t go that far, although most Republicans are against any rights which don’t relate to guns. He just thinks that voting is way too easy, and he relates endless rumors about voter fraud everywhere. He would like to make voting so difficult and intimidating that very few people would participate.


  55. misshusseinmolly says:

    RaptureReady Says
    November 4th, 2008 at 12:57 pm

    This is Hussein’s fault for breaking a promise. Hussein gave a verbal agreement that he would only accept public finacing. Hussein broke his promise and received record funds from left wing lunnies, terrorists and foreigners. By breaking his promise, this put him completely ahead of Sen. McCain on campaign funds. Do you really trust Hussein?
    __________________________________________________________

    Waitaminnit — Sidney’s campaign offices were empty last night because his opponent changed his mind about public financing? Like Sidney McFlippetyflop has never changed his mind on anything?

    That’s as silly as Sidney’s explaining that the reason his campaign is so vicious and negative is because his opponent didn’t agree to town meetings with him.

    Did you get enought eat for breakfast this morning, Daryll? Your brain seems to be a a bit disjointed, and you’re not making much sense.


  56. ralph the wonder llama says:

    Uncle Ho Says:
    Daryll; delusional to the bitter end.

    Let’s hope so… he’s the only troll who bothers showing up these days.


  57. kdilkington says:

    In Indiana, where I am a pollwatcher for Obama’s voter protection program, the election laws allow for a limited number of partisan representatives inside the polls. I am happy to say that turnout has been good and so far no republicans have come to challenge votes. The election workers are friendly, and besides one or two voter error issues, things are going smoothly. Obama’s campaign has set up a multi-tiered system for his volunteers to resolve issues as they occur. At 5:30 this morning there were already about 70 or so STUDENTS(who probably usually sleep until ten)lined up and excited to vote.

    As to the role of a pollwatcher. It is to protect voter rights and encourage people to stand up for their rights rather than giving in to frustration and leaving. It is the role of a challenger to challenge voter’s registrations or general voting rights.

    I would be curious to know the electioneering statutes of the states in which this ‘reverse discrimination’ is alleged to have occurred.


  58. Nevar says:

    Daryll, umm, I mean Rapture Ready, don’t forget to vote today.
    Just in case.


  59. Max-1 says:

    .

    Dear Darryyl,
    Just how many cases against ACORN exist?
    … 1000? 100? 10?

    And then you speak of proportionality.
    ROFLMAO!!!

    So, what was this about bearing false witness?

    .


  60. misshusseinmolly says:

    shoeless Says
    November 4th, 2008 at 1:04 pm

    He just thinks that voting is way too easy, and he relates endless rumors about voter fraud everywhere.
    __________________________________________________________

    Is it asking too much of these clowns to actually provide some evidence of this allegedly wide-spread “voter fraud”? So far the best they’ve been able to do is come up with examples of phony voter registrations (a far cry from actual “voter fraud”) through ACORN, which ACORN separated out as suspect, and submitted as required by law.

    If Mickey Mouse or Donald Duck had actually showed up to vote, THAT would be voter fraud.

    I would think that if a great deal of voter fraud was actually going on, there would be a lot of arrests today.


  61. ralph the wonder llama says:

    RaptureReady Says:

    Pollwatchers just want to ensure that each vote is properly accounted for. No intimidation, it’s all in the liberal mind.

    Uh… Daryll?

    In this particular case, the intimidation is all in John Bolton’s mind.

    He’s hardly a liberal.


  62. stateofthedivision says:

    Pollwatchers just want to ensure that each vote is properly accounted for. No intimidation, it’s all in the liberal mind.

    So you’re able to be present at hundreds of thousands of polling places simultaneously? In other words, you can’t possibly know.

    I’ll wait to hear from election officials as to the behavior of “poll watchers”. I have a friend, a lawyer, who is poll watching in New Mexico. I look forward to hearing his stories.


  63. Nevar says:

    Daryll: “…No intimidation, it’s all in the liberal mind.”
    Bolton: “Yet many Republican poll watchers, we’ve already heard, are being intimidated in their own right.”

    Ooopsie daisy, Daryll…


  64. Max-1 says:

    #68 Darryyl said:

    Pollwatchers just want to ensure that each vote is properly accounted for. No intimidation, it’s all in the liberal mind.

    Are you saying John Bolton is a Liberal?

    .


  65. kdilkington says:

    Rapture Ready (your name kind of spells out your lack of logical thinking)- you could not be more wrong about the role of pollwatchers as deployed by republicans. One party wants people to vote- the other does not, and that is very telling. The ACORN crap is a myth. No one is actually saying they are Mickey Mouse of whatever and actually voting. Talk to the 2000 election Bush lawyers(and SCOTUS) if you want to learn about the most sophisticated voter fraud ever perpetrated on the American people.
    You are deluded if you don’t think that this sort of tactic has the practical and intentional effect of a filibuster. It’s not too far removed from having a police car with it’s lights on near the polling station to intimidate minorities and poor people from voting. I still can’t get over your dumb handle.


  66. 5th Estate says:

    I voted about an hour ago. Man, it felt sooo good to press the Obama/Biden button.
    As I was going in to vote a woman leaving had a very sour face and was saying “they can’t even speak English, but they can vote?”
    She was referring to a couple of “Desi” inside whose Emglish was in fact better than a lot of “real Americans” I’ve met (I’ve been all over this country). I have no dooubt her mood isn’t going to improve at all today–or for the next 4 years.


  67. 5th Estate says:

    uh-oh, so much for my written English!


  68. Nevar says:

    Daryll: “I voted absentee for the McCain/Palin ticket.”

    Afraid to go out in public? Or are you on some mission from Gop?


  69. Fred says:

    Question: I voted and requested to see the results of my vote. I was told that they could not verify my vote. It was a paper ballot fed to a machine.

    I live in a red state so its mostly a gesture but still, you should be able to verify that your vote was registered the way you voted.

    Anyone have any input on this issue?


  70. misshusseinmolly says:

    RaptureReady Says
    November 4th, 2008 at 12:48 pm

    Fox News did a report about Democrats sending their seeds to do this job.
    _________________________________________________________

    Ah — THERE’S a credible news source! Care to provide a link?


  71. Anonymouse says:

    Bolton (and all of his buddies) are bullies. And like all bullies, they get louder when they are insecure.

    The only good thing about bullies is that they almost always fold when faced with a real challenge.


  72. Klem Kiddilehopper says:

    Neal Boortz Atlanta’s top crybaby, says the more money you have, the more votes you should have!


  73. bonzo 1958 says:

    bolton——GO AWAY AND STAY GONE.


  74. Fred says:

    lets celebrate the day by flagging rr off of our board today.


  75. stefan says:

    I don’t get this ‘dishonest poll workers’ charge. There’s a pretty basic process to go through, to vote. A dishonest worker would do – what, exactly? Let the same person through a hundred times? Exchange a secret wink and let someone on their side vote in place of someone else? How would that work?

    Every scenario I can think of is ridiculous. OK, let’s say the entire team of poll-workers is corrupt (irregardless of which side they are on). Then – what?

    When I voted I signed my name against my address – only one person can do that. I filled out my ballot and ran it through a machine. Where in that process can a dishonest person alter the vote?

    The only practical scenarios I can imagine are: 1) discard paper votes before they are counted. 2) manipulate electronic equipment. 3) keep “certain” people away from the polls.

    EVERY ONE of those scenarios involved taking away someone’s vote, and is a favored Rovian strategy. Not a single one (and I’m trying hard to think of one) involves devious voters, or collusion between voters and staff. Please, how could it work?


  76. ralph the wonder llama says:

    RaptureReady Says:
    ralph the wonder llama Says:

    Just curious, Daryll; why do you refer to Obama by his middle name, but not McCain? If you were being consistent, shouldn’t you call McCain “Sidney”?

    And how is it Obama’s fault that McCain’s campaign offices were dark and empty on the night before the election?

    And one more thing; what’s a “lunnie”?

    I apologize, it should be loonies. If Sen. McCain decided not to accept public financing, the office would have been open for business, as usual. This is Hussein’s fault for breaking his promise. This shows his true judgement and character. This shows that he is lying about lowering taxes.

    So, let’s review: you apologize for a silly spelling error, and paly the victim card with Sidney.

    Yet you completely ignore my question about your insistence on calling barack Obama “Hussein”, almost as if I hadn’t asked it.

    You obviously read my comment, since you responded to it. But you pretend that there’s no inconsistency in your habit of calling Obama “Hussein” yet still referring to the Republican candidate by his proper last name. Even more, you pretend that I didn’t even ask you about this inconsistency.

    Y’know, Daryll, I’m beginning to suspect that you’re not really interested in spirited, honest debate.

    (By the way, McCain was forced to take public money for his campaign, since he had used that potential as collateral in obtaining a bridge loan to keep his campaign afloat back when he had NO money. Obama never had such a restriction, and never made a formal agreement to take public money. When it became clear that his fundraising powers far outstripped the limitations that such an agreement would place on him, he decided to go it alone and fund his campaign entirely on the small contributions of Americans like me.)


  77. Shayne says:

    mary Says:

    Anybody see those scenes of empty McCain campaign offices last night?

    It was almost sad.

    Almost.

    Sad in that I laughed my a$$ off until my eyes watered way. Sort of like when I read Daryll’s pathetic comments and realize what a joke Republicans are.


  78. shoeless says:

    RaptureReady Says:
    ——————————————————————————–
    If Sen. McCain decided not to accept public financing, the office would have been open for business, as usual. This is Hussein’s fault for breaking his promise. This shows his true judgement and character.

    OOPS!

    McCain is embroiled in controversy over his attempt to withdraw from the primary public financing system. He entered the program last year when his campaign was strapped for cash, and took a loan using future fundraising — or the matching funds from the public financing system — as collateral.

    But after his primary victories on Super Tuesday, McCain wrote to the Federal Elections Commission announcing his intent to withdraw from the program.

    http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/06/19/obama.public.financing/index.html


  79. Max-1 says:

    #80 Darryyl said:

    voted absentee for the McCain/Palin ticket.

    You do know that Sarah didn’t just pal around with separatists, she slept with one!

    .


  80. ralph the wonder llama says:

    RaptureReady Says:

    Fred Says:

    Question: I voted and requested to see the results of my vote. I was told that they could not verify my vote. It was a paper ballot fed to a machine.

    I live in a red state so its mostly a gesture but still, you should be able to verify that your vote was registered the way you voted.

    Anyone have any input on this issue?

    Don’t worry about it. Your liberal vote was counted. Be at ease.

    Daryll, simple question; you have no idea where Fred lives or in what district he votes.

    You have already expressed deep suspicion about the integrity of poll workers, yet when Fred raises an issue, you dismiss his concerns out-of-hand, presumably because he identified himself as living in a “red” state.

    It’s almost as if you have prejudice against traditionally blue states and FOR traditionally red states, based entirely on patterns of presidential voting every four years.

    That sounds like your process of assessment is sloppy and unconcerned with fact.

    I’m just sayin’.


  81. Max-1 says:

    #90 Darryyll said:

    Those who have a current address that does not match their address on their voter registration card should be excluded from voting.

    So, you support the disenfranchisement of voters? You DO know that in Michigan, the GOP lost that argument… NO? Yet, you blindly still support unamerican Principles and Values. And you dare call us unamerican? HAhahahahahaha,,,,


  82. Max-1 says:

    ralph,
    Darryyl hates all things American while loving all things Christofascist!

    .


  83. shoeless says:

    Nevar Says:
    ——————————————————————————–

    Daryll: “I voted absentee for the McCain/Palin ticket.”

    Afraid to go out in public? Or are you on some mission from Gop?

    Daryll may just have increased light sensitivity. Daryll, don’t take ibuprofen when you are all hopped up on oxycontin.

    Ibuprofen and oxycodone side effects

    fever, headache, neck stiffness, chills, increased sensitivity to light,

    http://www.drugs.com/mtm/ibuprofen-and-oxycodone.html


  84. mary says:

    ralph – I love you man!


  85. Shayne says:

    It is not the poll watchers job to make sure that voters are legitimate that’s what the workers are there for. Funny that I’ve never seen one Republican poll watcher in my mostly Republican suburb making sure every voter is legitimate. And they’ve never asked for my drivers license either. I guess that’s how you people stole the last two elections huh Daryll.


  86. stefan says:

    Ralph said in an aside:

    By the way, McCain was forced to take public money for his campaign, since he had used that potential as collateral in obtaining a bridge loan to keep his campaign afloat back when he had NO money. Obama never had such a restriction, and never made a formal agreement to take public money. When it became clear that his fundraising powers far outstripped the limitations that such an agreement would place on him, he decided to go it alone and fund his campaign entirely on the small contributions of Americans like me.

    This is true. I remember the back-and-forth on it. There was no sense of an agreement other than saying he’d ‘consider’ it if it made sense. Obviously, he had a better alternative. Do you think Sydney would have taken public funding if he didn’t have to? It’s purely campaign rhetoric on his part. Regarding the donations, I also donated a small amount – more than once – and so did most of my friends and family. And so did *their* friends and family. The reason it worked, pure and simple, is that Obama is vastly superior to Sydney as a candidate, and had a better fund-raising organization to support him.


  87. LibertyLover says:

    Shayne Says:
    mary Says:
    Anybody see those scenes of empty McCain campaign offices last night?
    It was almost sad.
    Almost.

    Sad in that I laughed my a$$ off until my eyes watered way. Sort of like when I read Daryll’s pathetic comments and realize what a joke Republicans are.

    Not all Republicans are jokes. There are many, many Republicans that are fine and decent people. My spouse is a Republican. But my spouse hasn’t voted for a republican since the Religious Right got ahold of the Republican party and ruined it.


  88. xenon says:

    I quote Mr. Bolton: “Americans are a practical people.” Yes they are, John…and some of them are practically insane.

    Your padded room is ready…


  89. sacopenapa says:

    Bolton is a War Criminal! When he opens his mouth, nobody takes it seriously.
    Bolton do us a favor, climb the Empire States building and JUMP!


  90. Loonie says:

    Yes, the poor GOP are suffering harassment by not being able to successfully intimidate people. It’s so unfair!


  91. ucsbclassics53 says:

    Daryll, I wonder where Homer Simpson and Mickey Mouse voted…I’m sure as they are cartoons, they would have been caught rather easily by the poll workers…


  92. shoeless says:

    Why are Republicans so worried about Mickey Mouse voting. With all the money he has made over the years he is surely a Republican.


  93. jb says:

    Just wait, Mr. Bolton, if you think that is intimidation, wait till you’re in the big house. ….And ACORN’s only crime is helping poor people vote. That’s the one thing the GOP can not abide.


  94. rachelfirm says:

    There is a report of Voter Suppression in Iowa.

    From the grassroots Election Day blog, Community Values Votes:

    Sounds like a team of Republican Lawyers is challenging student registrations. This is something we are monitoring now. One of our staffers is a recent graduate from Grinnell College, so we got some word of this last night. It is also in one of our targeted areas, so we want to learn more about what is going on on the ground — but just wanted to give you a heads up.

    http://iowaindependent.com/8068/students-face-ballot-challenges-in-battleground-district

    In response, the students have re-registered (same day registered) students who were challenged at their dorm room address, and there are quite a few questions in with county officials.


  95. Max-1 says:

    shoeless,
    They donk wand Donald and his Fascist sympathisers invading America…


  96. Max-1 says:

    o_0

    Spelin suks… no?


  97. pete says:

    Have any of you sane people checked out the site that Daryll claimed his handle from? I wouldn’t be surprised if the strip naked and climb on a roof any time they hear a brass instrument. The whole damn lot of them should be locked up for their protection, and ours.

    http://www.raptureready.com/


  98. 49erDem says:

    Rapture-ready Bible-thumper: “I’m not stating that is accurate, but there is a great chance that Sen. McCain will win.”

    That’s right! Fivethirtyeight has done thousands of computer simulations and they compute his chance of winning the election at a whopping 1.8%! So pray hard, bibleboy. Pray hard!


  99. pete says:

    To paraphrase Bill Maher:

    These are people who Believe that one candidate’s weekly attendance at a Christian church over twenty years proves he’s a Muslim. And the guy who rarely goes to any church, and recently changed denominations, is a “True Christian”.

    If one is a Believer, I humbly suggest one prays these freaks don’t reproduce.


  100. misshusseinmolly says:

    stefan Says
    November 4th, 2008 at 1:27 pm

    The reason it worked, pure and simple, is that Obama is vastly superior to Sydney as a candidate, and had a better fund-raising organization to support him.
    _________________________________________________________

    There was another reason why Obama chose to forgo the public financing — a fairly legitimate one.

    McCain’s limits on what he could accept in contributions would in no way hamper money going to 527 organizations, who were all lined up and ready to Swift-Boat Obama. With public financing restrictions, Obama would have been put under a limitless barrage of 527 attacks without the funds to adequately respond to them. Letting go of the public money and the limits that came with it was his only chance.

    Yes, Obama could have lined up a bunch of 527 advertising of his own. But he really didn’t want to go that route.


  101. ElBruce says:

    Bolton and his friends are intimidating me from exercising my right to intimidate poll workers from exercising their right to intimidate voters trying to exercise their rights. I’m gonna sue!

    RaptureReady Says:

    I believe that a lot of voting fraud is being conducted right now.

    I believe that you are a 12-foot tall talking rutabega with floppy bunny ears. Please produce evidence for such assertions or refrain from making them. Thank you.


  102. Uncle Fester Lurks says:

    And the whining begins by the reich! Not surprised, by the end of the night after an Obama victory the seeds of election fraud and stolen election will already be planted in the ignorant republikkkan supporters heads.


  103. Uncle Fester Lurks says:

    I see the religious zealot rapture ready is bearing false witness again.


  104. Gregor Samsa says:

    Daryll aka RaptureReady is here whining that his candidate was outmaneuvered, out-fundraised, and overall outsmarted?

    Wouldn’t these facts prove that Obama is, indeed, the better candidate?


  105. ElBruce says:

    You know, I think maybe these people actually believe that they have an inalienable right to violate the law in order to amass and retain power. I think they really might believe that.


  106. SkepticRising says:

    He actually said “reverse intimidation”????? He actually said that? Does he have no clue what the implication of that statement is? Stunning. The man is truly a moron.


  107. EugeneDebs says:

    RaptureReady Says:

    Grow up. Just prepare for a shock tonight.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    Grow a BRAIN moron and get your whiny snivelling points ready as McIrrelevant goes down in flames.


  108. EugeneDebs says:

    RaptureReady Says:
    ——————————————————————————–

    ——————————————————————————–

    mary Says:
    ——————————————————————————–

    Anybody see those scenes of empty McCain campaign offices last night?

    It was almost sad.

    Almost.

    November 4th, 2008 at 12:54 pm Recommend (0) | Report Abuse

    ——————————————————————————–
    This is Hussein’s fault for breaking a promise. Hussein gave a verbal agreement that he would only accept public finacing. Hussein broke his promise and received record funds from left wing lunnies, terrorists and foreigners. By breaking his promise, this put him completely ahead of Sen. McCain on campaign funds. Do you really trust Hussein?
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    You are a liar and a fool. He said he would accept them if they could make an accomidation with McCain and they couldnt come to terrms. You are an ignorant brainwashed moron. You LIVE to spout the brainwashed stupidity that you have been programmed with BECAUSE you are too ignorant to think for yourself. You just come in here to parade your ignorance like constantly referring to Obama by his middle name. I dont trust YOU for many reasons mostly because you are so stupid. You are ignorant, you are worthless and you havent got a shred of decency


  109. 666lattes says:

    “This is Hussein’s fault for breaking a promise. Hussein gave a verbal agreement that he would only accept public finacing.”

    Darryll,

    Why do you support McCain’s Socialist-funded campaign? In addition, why are you mad at Obama for not accepting Socialist-funding?

    With this, you can tell that McCain is lying about not having a Socialist agenda! Hypocrite!



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