Kristol Floats Revived ‘Project For A New American Century’ To Support Neocons In The Wilderness
Kristol Floats Revived ‘Project For A New American Century’ To Support Neocons In The Wilderness
In 1997, Bill Kristol and Robert Kagan co-founded the Project for a New American Century, a neoconservative organization meant “to promote American global leadership” through “military strength and moral clarity.” The organization, whose statement of principles was signed by right-wing luminaries such as Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld and Paul Wolfowitz, is largely credited with putting America on the path to a preventative invasion of Iraq.
In an interview with Hugh Hewitt yesterday, Kristol said that he would like to set up a similar organization to operate during an Obama presidency:
HH: And I think he will be very concerned with the two issues I’m going to raise with you – national security and immigration. Now I believe the Committee On the Present Danger filled a need in the 70s which we need to reorganize an equivalent now. But what do you think, Bill Kristol?
BK: Oh, I agree, and we did a little of that in the 90s with the Project For the New American Century. And I actually think there are people talking about this. And there’s a lot of good foreign policy and defense thinking on our side, the Fred Kagans and Bob Kagans and Reuel Gerechts of the world, Victor Davis Hanson, et cetera. But a little bit of a political organization for them wouldn’t be bad. And I think we should support Obama, incidentally, if he does the right thing.
Listen here:
Not surprisingly, two of the conservative foreign policy thinkers mentioned by Kristol, Bob Kagan and Reuel Gerecht, were employed by the original PNAC. Fred Kagan and Victor Davis Hanson are currently at the American Enterprise Institute and the Hoover Institution, respectively.
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“military strength and moral clarity”
Looks like we’re a quart low on those two items thanks to George Bush and friends.
November 6th, 2008 at 5:04 pmAnd I think we should support Obama, incidentally, if he does the right thing.
big clue there… that’s how it is with these wingers…
“let’s work together – on the Right side”…
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oh, and by the way:
November 6th, 2008 at 5:05 pmNY Prosecutors Will Not Charge Eliot Spitzer
Washington Post – 1 hour ago
By Carrie Johnson Former New York Gov. Eliot M. Spitzer (D) will not face criminal charges for his role in the prostitution scandal that drove him from office this year, prosecutors announced this afternoon.
“Neocons in the Wilderness” has such a fantastic ring to it.
November 6th, 2008 at 5:06 pmCan Kristol be named an enemy combatant and have him locked up for awhile?
November 6th, 2008 at 5:07 pmHow much death and ruin is enough for a neocon failure? I guess we’ll find out.
November 6th, 2008 at 5:11 pmMaybe Flippy McSpin can redeem himself, a tiny bit, by strangling Bloody Bill for advancing Bible Spice as VP?
November 6th, 2008 at 5:12 pm“to promote American global leadership” through “military strength and moral clarity.”
translation: We are going to invade and occupy any lands that have resources we want. And by the way, we are very moral when we do it!
November 6th, 2008 at 5:15 pmWhat’s the need? Pathological liars to promote military adventurism?
November 6th, 2008 at 5:17 pmApparently, part of the neocon recuperation involved paying their webhosting bill. For months all that came up was a notice that PNAC hadn’t paid their invoice.
November 6th, 2008 at 5:17 pmI love it. The Republicans lose because they went so far right. So their answer is to go farther right. They really are incapable of taking responsibility and learning from their mistakes, aren’t they.
November 6th, 2008 at 5:19 pmRowdy; I’ll go for that, with the proviso that water sports and gymnastics are included.
November 6th, 2008 at 5:19 pmCall it Kagan Kagan and Kristol?
November 6th, 2008 at 5:22 pmWhat is that quote?
Those that do not learn the lessons of history,are doomed to repeat it.
Welcome PNAC 2.0
November 6th, 2008 at 5:24 pmVictor Davis Hanson is an intellectual fraud of the first order, and a screaming warmonger. Just the sort of “expert” we don’t need nipping at Obama’s heels. Send him off to advise Putin.
November 6th, 2008 at 5:26 pmBack to your think tank floater.
November 6th, 2008 at 5:28 pmWith the end of anti-intellectualism, every one of the people he named would fade into obscurity from being proven wrong time and again.
Welcome the Age of Reason, come on in to the 21st century and beyond.
November 6th, 2008 at 5:30 pmNeoCons in the wilderness? They’ll sell their souls to the Devil for a chance to get back in power, to control the reigns of government. Let’s hope Satan lets them wander for a very long time…
November 6th, 2008 at 5:31 pmPNAC is the reason behind the madness of the last fooking 8 years.
This guy is nucking futz or he thinks the people who listen to his drivel are.
November 6th, 2008 at 5:32 pmPhoto caption contest:
And then the proctologist…
November 6th, 2008 at 5:33 pmThese morons have had their feet kicked out from under them.
I like it.
November 6th, 2008 at 5:33 pmIt’s funny how these groups pop up for Democratic Presidents and go away just before Republican Presidents.
Without a Bully-in-Chief heading their party, the neo-cons feel compelled to form their own lil’ saber rattling club. Again.
**Yawn**
-AF
November 6th, 2008 at 5:33 pmAndrew Sullivan Is A Fraud
New AMERICAN Century
In addition to being Delusional and ARROGANT, it’s a phrase Not Likely to win us many Friends in the World.
November 6th, 2008 at 5:33 pmAs I recall Clinton pretty much ignored the eternal war for moral clarity mongers.
November 6th, 2008 at 5:38 pmVictor Davis Hanson is a joke in the intellectual community. It is said he tries to explain all of history through The Peloponnesian War. He would not exist if not for the Hoover Institute, funded by major corporations such as Exxon-Mobil. About two years back he had an editorial proving how much greater the economy was under Dubya than it had been under Clinton.
November 6th, 2008 at 5:39 pm“to promote American global leadership” through “military strength and moral clarity.”
This “moral clarity” includes torture, bombing innocent civilians and unprovoked military aggression and illegal wiretapping.
November 6th, 2008 at 5:47 pmYes, he’ll only support Obama “if he does the right thing.” These are the same people who insisted that we should fall in step behind Bush no matter what because he was the President and it was the patriotic thing to do. If you belive that, then it’s no less patriotic to support your president on January 20th 2009 than it was in 2001. Not that hypocrisy is even a speed bump for the likes of Kristol.
The “neoCon” agenda has produced the most liberal Presidency since Johnson, in that it seeks to use political and government power to rapidly and radically transform America and the world. Which is the definition of “liberal.”
Sounds to me like Kristol has just now realized that he’s been a laughingstock for years, and is now trying to go back to square one in the hopes of recapturing a facade of legitimacy.
Stick a fork in him, he’s done.
November 6th, 2008 at 5:50 pmLet’s see. The last PNAC got us back to the 19th century.
Is Kristol proposing a new PNAC plan that will transport us to the 18th century?
November 6th, 2008 at 5:54 pmElBruce Says:
Yes, he’ll only support Obama “if he does the right thing.” These are the same people who insisted that we should fall in step behind Bush no matter what because he was the President and it was the patriotic thing to do. If you belive that, then it’s no less patriotic to support your president on January 20th 2009 than it was in 2001. …
reminds me – i need to find and present to my ditto-head in-law a new bumper sticker to replace his old one…
only need to change the name:
“I stand behind President Barack Hussein Obama”
i can’t wait.
November 6th, 2008 at 5:57 pm“Committee On the Present Danger”
That would be COPD. In the medical world, chronic obstructive pulmonary disease….
Cheers,
November 6th, 2008 at 6:01 pmDidn’t you mean to say “right-wing lunatics such as Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld and Paul Wolfowitz” rather than “right-wing luminaries?”
November 6th, 2008 at 6:03 pmPersonally, I’m heartened by this development.
I think the nation would be well served if Republicans kept taking their advice from Bill Kristol.
November 6th, 2008 at 6:05 pmThese people have been trying to resurrect their new version of the Third Reich for some time now. They are fascists, no more and no less. And they won’t be satisfied until they’ve destroyed the American form of government, based on the U.S. Constitution, and replaced it with their vision of America as a totalitarian Empire. They are traitors.
November 6th, 2008 at 6:10 pmPNAC founders slogan:
WE PLAN & START WARS….But YOUR KIDS WILL DIE
November 6th, 2008 at 6:11 pmHmmm, sounds like homeland security should investigate this organization as possible a terrorist group. Wiretaps for all.
November 6th, 2008 at 6:16 pm#3. But putting neocons in the wilderness means for certain that the wilderness will be logged, its wetlands drained, its minerals mined and its oil extracted.
November 6th, 2008 at 6:35 pmKristol has made an entire career out of being spectacularly wrong, so it’s no surprise that he would want to double down on “epic fail”ism. In fact, I think the phrase “epic fail” was coined in his honor…
November 6th, 2008 at 6:37 pmKristol still doesn’t get it. You’ve had your day…Americans aren’t interested in your so called insights into anything much less national security and immigration. How about looking at what just happened on Tuesday. Americans are looking for help with the economy, jobs, education, affordable health care, restraining out-of-control financial institutions and improving our standing in the world. Kristol is not a leader nor will anyone look to him for answers…must be tough realizing your time is past.
November 6th, 2008 at 6:39 pmHey Joe, I got yer Project for a new America hangin’ right here…Also.
November 6th, 2008 at 6:44 pmAre these Neo-Nitwits arrogant or what? They have a proven failure of a philosophy, but their dreams of “World Domination” built on the bodies and blood of America’s youth, seems never to die.
I wish we could find these folks a desolate island on which we could drop the bunch of them and let them fight among them selves for food and water for they all believe only the strongest should survive.
A suggestion for the name for the new Neo-Nitwit club. How about “The Pinky and the Brain Neo-Nitwit Club for World Domination”, or PATBNNCFWD for short.
Say PATBNNCFWD three times fast.
November 6th, 2008 at 7:02 pmHey Bill, how about working to restore America’s credibility worldwide and rebuilding our industrial might and innovative spirit. We once did these things with pride:
Made the most and best steel
November 6th, 2008 at 7:12 pmMade the most and best cars
Made the most and best televisions
Made the most and best textiles
Made the most and best airplanes
And so many other things that made us the envy of the world once. Now all we’re good at is making overpaid, do nothing CEO’s.
And I think we should support Obama, incidentally, if he does the right thing.
November 6th, 2008 at 7:14 pm………..
The right thing would be to either ignore you completely or have you arrested ! I’m still hoping that Rebuilding America’s Defenses is the bible and primary evidence at Bush’s war crimes trial in the Hague !
ps . i do however want to thank you for vetting Sarah Palin , in that you have done your country a great service .
Bill Kristol is a traitor to the United States and an enemy to the American Constitution !His ideology is directly responsible for the deaths of more than a million people !
November 6th, 2008 at 7:21 pmNEO CONSERVATIVISM IS DEAD !
Bill Kristol is a very smart man. Republicans should follow his advice to the letter.
They will be very happy if they follow his advice.
Pleeeeeease follow his advice, Republicans!
November 6th, 2008 at 7:24 pmGOODBYE NEOCONS!! GOOD RIDDANCE.
November 6th, 2008 at 7:30 pmGive Bill a break. He’s easily confused.
-AF
November 6th, 2008 at 8:06 pmAndrew Sullivan Is A Fraud
Since 2005 I have tirelessly spoken against the imperial hubris that PNAC stands for because its entirely unrealistic. They essentially act like there are no costs with and no possible blowbacks.
November 6th, 2008 at 9:24 pmDeja vu all over again. Incidentally there’s a very good article in the academic journal Security Studies from MIT about how these characters functioned in the 90s on Iraq.
November 6th, 2008 at 11:49 pm.
I wonder what other “CATALYZING EVENTS” these ‘Cons lost in the wilderness, can think up…
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November 7th, 2008 at 12:54 amOrigial PNAC signatories from 1997 who are or have been part of the Bush Administrations policy team:
Don Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz, Norman Pohoretz, Dick Cheney, William Bennett, Jeb Bush, Scooter Libby, Donald Kagan, Elliot Abrams, Steve Forbes, Aaron Friedberg, Francis Fukuyama, Frank Gaffney, Zalmay Khalilzad.
Newer members of PNAC who are part of the Bush Administration include Richard Perle, John (I am the walrus) Bolton, Richard Armitage, Doug Feith, James Woolsey.
All traitors to America and our freedoms. These neo-conartists are a large part of what’s wrong in this Country and particularly in the GOP. Bill Kristol, history has shown, should not be in a position to create policies for America. He has, much like Bush, been wrong on practically every front. How someone who is so patently off kilter with what Americans need to progress as a nation came to such power behind the scenes is startling. This pack of war hungry, corporate greed masters sat down and came up with a clear, albeit deeply flawed vision for going forward in America. It is an eerily warped plan involving military domination and the securing of other nation’s natural resources for America. If you are still not convinced that we went into Iraq for their large oil reserves do a little research on this group. IMHO everything they have done is in violation of the RICO Act along with being patently treasonous to our safety and freedom in this country. Their master plan got us into an illegal war, has hobbled our military’s readiness, caused the deaths of well over 4,000 American soldiers and indebted us to China for generations to come. Somebody please answer me as to just how Kristol is still relevant in promoting US policy??? ALL of these thugs deserve long prison sentences at the very least, death by hanging would be legally appropriate for what they have done to our Country.
November 7th, 2008 at 9:04 amActually, after the last eight years of neocon f-ups in foreign policy, I’m hoping President Obama will revive the art of diplomacy, instead of endless threats and saber rattling (aka, BushCo). There’s a lot of damage repair in foreign policy after the past eight years.
November 7th, 2008 at 9:43 amOh great – the fascists who planned and carry out 911 are getting together again. Just great. What is gonna blow up now?
November 7th, 2008 at 12:54 pm