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Bush and Obama to meet tomorrow.

By Faiz Shakir on Nov 9th, 2008 at 6:26 pm

Bush and Obama to meet tomorrow.

President-elect Barack Obama and President George W. Bush will meet face-to-face tomorrow at 2 pm in the White House to discuss the upcoming transition. Atrios highlights a previous encounter between the two men:

obamapic.jpg“Obama!” Bush exclaimed, according to Obama’s account of the meeting in his second memoir, “The Audacity of Hope.” “Come here and meet Laura. Laura, you remember Obama. We saw him on TV during election night. Beautiful family. And that wife of yours — that’s one impressive lady.”

The two men shook hands and then, according to Obama, Bush turned to an aide, “who squirted a big dollop of hand sanitizer in the president’s hand.”

Bush then offered some to Obama, who recalled: “Not wanting to seem unhygienic, I took a squirt.”




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210 Responses to “Bush and Obama to meet tomorrow.”

  1. Wayne A. Schneider Says:

    You know, the hand sanitizer thing is something you do discreetly, not right in front of the person. And did Bush think that "Obama" was his first name?


  2. blue state bob Says:

    Can there be a more telling moment to show that on January 20th we will finally have a grown up, not some petualant child with daddy issues, alcohol problems, intellectual laziness, and general stupidity running this country. Thank God or the Flying Spaghetti monster, or whatever!!


  3. LiberalVoter Says:

    20 January, please hurry. Bush/Cheney still have over two months to further their damage of this country the President Barack Obama will have to repair.


  4. spencers mom Says:

    The only advice I have for you, President Elect Obama, is try not to laugh. I know that's what I'd have to keep reminding myself if I were about to engage in a lengthy meeting with Chimpy McFlightsuit.

    Oh, and watch out for whoopie cushions. I'm guessing fart jokes are big with the mental midget.

    PEACE


  5. Badmoodman Says:

    Wayne A. Schneider Says: And did Bush think that “Obama” was his first name?

    - - Count on it.


  6. barfly Says:

    If it gets difficult to keep from laughing, just remember how many people have died at his hands.


  7. spencers mom Says:

    Sobering thought, barfly.

    PEACE


  8. Tim Vaculik Says:

    At least President Bush has more class than to do what President Clinton, his wife and his staff did when it was time for them to leave.

    I'll never forget the extremely poor showing the Clinton's made as they had to give up the White House. Disgusting, really.

    At least they were FORCED to return items that weren't theirs to take.

    You won't see our current President stoop to such low-class tactics.


  9. wiley Says:

    That might have been the time for Obama to don a bullet-proof jacket---discretely, of course, before excusing himself with "I really need a hot shower with some hibiclens."

    What a putz Bush is. Sanctimonious sack of...


  10. katy Says:

    i found this story earlier and posted this on C&L:

    ok - normally i avoid fox links like the plague, but i had to find out about this one... january 20 will not get here soon enough...

    Bush-Obama Meeting: Hard Feelings and Hand Sanitizer

    FOXNews

    First Bush-Obama Meeting: Hard Feelings and Hand Sanitizer
    As President Bush and President-elect Barack Obama prepare for their post-election meeting at the White House on Monday, memories of their first encounter linger.

    [...]


  11. barfly Says:

    Tim Vaculik Says:

    Hey, loser!

    We all remember you pre-election predictions.

    How's the weather, out there, in the political wilderness?

    Have you guys started eating each other yet?


  12. katy Says:

    ohjeez! sorry about the FAUX link... i hadn't read the copy here yet...


  13. blue state bob Says:

    Tim Vaculik Says:

    "At least President Bush has more class than to do what President Clinton, his wife and his staff did when it was time for them to leave."

    Leave the country with a surplus and at peace, how classless of them.

    I see most of the trolls gave up on Nov 4th, but the D list is still out here making themselves look even more dumb.


  14. tanglewood Says:

    Tim Vaculik: How'd Tuesday, November 4, 2008 work out for you and your party? Who's sorry now?


  15. dbadass Says:

    Hi Tim Vaculik!


  16. barfly Says:

    Ow! Oooouuuwww!

    There's a side-trail Tim, maybe you can get the drop on one of the stragglers.

    Kristol seems to be limping...


  17. Anders Says:

    wonder if Bush will crack any jokes about hanging detainees from their thumbs, like he joked with the canadian prime minister.

    The hand washing thing is strange, some psychologist's say that repeatedly cleaning your hand is a sign of homosexuality.


  18. dbadass Says:

    Bill Clinton and Jimmy Carter are so bummed out that they will have to sit with W in the former presidents section at every service for every person of interest who dies until they do...


  19. livelongandprosper Says:

    You won’t see our current President stoop to such low-class tactics.

    Bush has never shown any class. You have to have some social skills and intelligence to show class. For example, Bush keeps reading My Pet Goat as he is informed of a major incident. For example, Bush gives Merkle a neck rub. For example, Bush smirks when talking about war. I could go one but I don't want too. Bush will be history very soon.


  20. Dr. Hussein Matt Says:

    8 years later and the diminished, vile, and pathetic reich-wingers are STILL whining and obsessing over Clinton. Get over it, you lost, the country HATES you filth.


  21. Zooey Says:

    That is just embarrassing.

    I can understand the hand sanitizer thing, since politicians shake a lot of hands, but a little discretion is key.

    What am I saying? This is George W. Bush!

    Nevermind...


  22. Tim Vaculik Says:

    Too bad you folks use the same yardstick on me that you would use on yourselves!

    I shudder to think what would have happened to the mental state of Obama supporters had he lost! Not to mention the massive riots the cities were gearing up for.

    Such is not the case with conservatives. We don't pin our hopes on one man to save us! Our messiah came 2000 years ago.

    Of course, I'm not happy Senator McCain lost, but that's the way elections go, ya know. The principles that conservatives hold dear haven't gone anywhere. It's up to us to keep fighting for what we believe is right.

    You see, my progressive friends, it isn't always about winning or losing one election. It's true that winning gives the victorius party a huge opportunity, but that doesn't mean there aren't opportunities for the other party that happens to be in the minority. In fact, it seems that Republicans seem to do BETTER when they are not in the majority, strange as it seems.

    Bottom line? I'm not worried. There's a lot to be thankful for and a lot to do. Unlike a lot of folks after the last two elections, I'm not going around claiming Obama "stole the election." I'm not putting away my American flags either.


  23. Dr. Hussein Matt Says:

    Tim Vaculik Says:
    at least they were FORCED to return items that weren’t theirs to take.

    Just like OSarah bin Palin and her 200K wardrobe.


  24. Zooey Says:

    I'd ask the Tim troll to provide proof of his allegations, but he's never managed it before now.


  25. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    Tim Vaculik Says:

    I’ll never forget the extremely poor showing the Clinton’s made as they had to give up the White House. Disgusting, really.
    _____________

    Geez, Timmeh... it almost sounds like you were there personally to watch... almost.
    _____________

    At least they were FORCED to return items that weren’t theirs to take.
    _____________

    Uh... Timmeh??? All that nonsense got debunked YEARS ago... try checking it out on the Internets... when Mummy isn't home and you kin use the dial-up.
    _____________

    You won’t see our current President stoop to such low-class tactics.
    _____________

    Riiiiight... he'll just leave office w/ the blood of thousands of dead Iraqis on his hands... class act, that Li'l Georgie...


  26. Tim Vaculik Says:

    Zooey,

    Unless you were born after President Clinton was elected, you should remember the huge fiasco when he moved out! Do you not keep up with important events?

    Do you not recall the Clintons taking many items that had been presented to the American people and that were in the White House?

    You don't remember the Clinton staffers TRASHING their White House offices?


  27. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    Tim Vaculik Says:

    Too bad you folks use the same yardstick on me that you would use on yourselves!
    ____________

    Oh puke... your entire post is just too idiotic to waste time refuting.

    One utterly dishonest, inane comment after another. What a dismal state of mind you exist in.


  28. impact4u Says:

    The real question is this: did Bush washing his hands BEFORE he shook Obama's hand? Who cares what he did afterward!


  29. dbadass Says:

    Tim Vaculik:
    Are you next going to claim they took the W's off the keyboards? That shit is so bunk...


  30. Tim Vaculik Says:

    The Republic of Stupidity,

    Nice try. The news items about the Clintons having to RETURN our property were in regular daily newspapers.

    You can't re-write history.


  31. Dr. Hussein Matt Says:

    Timmeeeee, adolf dubyah has destroyed our country, our economy, and the American way of life and you're obsessing over the way the Clinton's exited the WH. You're desperate and pathetic.


  32. Zooey Says:

    Tim Vaculik Says:

    You don’t remember the Clinton staffers TRASHING their White House offices?
    November 9th, 2008 at 7:12 pm

    I remember the Republican trash machine SAYING the Clintons had done those things, but I also remember that those allegations were debunked.

    Apparently you don't keep up with truth.


  33. Dr. Hussein Matt Says:

    Tim Vaculik Says:
    You can’t re-write history.

    We know, herr dubyah is a complete and utter failure. Fact.


  34. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    Tim Vaculik Says:

    You can’t re-write history.
    ___________

    Anymore than you get to make it up for your own purposes, you pathetic, self-deluded twit.

    Google it, fool. It was a bunch of LIES.


  35. Tim Vaculik Says:

    How's that veto-proof majority coming in the Senate, folks? heh, heh, heh...


  36. weeza Says:

    Tim Vaculik Says:
    You won’t see our current President stoop to such low-class tactics.

    What country have you been living in for the past 8 years.

    King Bush is an illiterate, uncouth, uneducated, classless human being. He has treated us to low class tactics from the day he took office.

    Wonder how many shredding machines he & Darth Raider will need to get rid of the stench they have amassed during their reign


  37. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    Wait... wait... it's coming...

    Any minute now Timmeh will chime in w/ the "Obama's an Islamo-Marxist!" meme.


  38. Dr. Hussein Matt Says:

    How’s that GOPig permanent majority status coming, timmeee? heh, heh, heh…


  39. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    Tim Vaculik Says:

    How’s that veto-proof majority coming in the Senate, folks? heh, heh, heh…
    ___________

    How's that lead paint chip-based diet working out for ya?


  40. Tim Vaculik Says:

    weeza,

    Where I live, patriotism isn't a fad that comes and goes. Where I live, ALL presidents are our Presidents.
    Where I live, we don't need refreshers courses in flag etiquette.

    Where I live, if we disagree with our President we don't make it personal.


  41. dbadass Says:

    Tim Vaculik:
    Is it just me or are you hopping all over the place?


  42. Dr. Hussein Matt Says:

    Clinton left office with an approval rating at 65%, the highest end of office rating of any President since World War II. Herr dubyah is leaving the office the most hated president in US history.


  43. dbadass Says:

    Where I live, patriotism isn’t a fad that comes and goes. Where I live, ALL presidents are our Presidents.
    Where I live, we don’t need refreshers courses in flag etiquette.

    Where I live, if we disagree with our President we don’t make it personal.

    -----
    This shit is priceless...


  44. Tim Vaculik Says:

    Dr. Hussein Matt,

    Yeah, right. And many progressives thought the days of high gas prices were here to stay also! hahahahaha


  45. Tim Vaculik Says:

    dbadass,

    Hey, it ain't me! It's you guys that keep me hopping...


  46. Dr. Hussein Matt Says:

    Tim Vaculik Says:
    Where I live, patriotism isn’t a fad that comes and goes. Where I live, ALL presidents are our Presidents.
    Where I live, we don’t need refreshers courses in flag etiquette.

    Where I live, if we disagree with our President we don’t make it personal.

    Your fellow reich-wingers do not agree with you. YOUR fellow reich-wingers are hoping and praying that Obama fails and many our claiming Obama is NOT their president. Ooooooops, timeeeeee is debunked....again.


  47. Tim Vaculik Says:

    Dr. Hussein Matt,

    You are confused. Don't equate low approval ratings with "hate." I'm sure people of you ilk hate the President, but do not think for a minute that your sentiment is shared by anyone other than a small minority.

    This blind hatred hurts you and others like you, not him or even his supporters for that matter.


  48. Dr. Hussein Matt Says:

    Timmeeeee,

    And many reich-wing GOPigs thought the days of a permanent GOPig majority status was here to stay also! hahahahaha

    BTW, timmmeeeee, gas prices are still 90% higher now then under Clinton. Ooopppppsssssss. timeeeee....debunked.....again.


  49. dbadass Says:

    Tim Vaculik:
    Might you comment on the fact thet the drill drill drill lobby's predictions ala gas prices haven't held up? Thanks...


  50. Dr. Hussein Matt Says:

    timmeeeee, don't let your blind stupidity to the GOPig brand confuse the reality that America hates you, the GOPigs, and the president. THis election proves that fact....you subhuman GOPig scum are despised. "hahahahahahahaahh"


  51. Zooey Says:

    Where's that proof, Tim?

    Your word isn't worth shit around here.


  52. Perry logan Says:

    Dontchya wish Obama would just smack the little twit upside the head?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aypMFARJW84


  53. jb Says:

    The whole country is going for a large squirt of sanitizer come Jan. 20. Good-bye and good riddance to bad rubbish.


  54. Tim Vaculik Says:

    Let's get one thing straight.

    I am hoping our new President succeeds, not fails because this is MY COUNTRY, get it?

    Of course, I do not want him to do certain things he's talked about because I believe they are wrong for our Country. Overall, though I'm hoping he DOESN'T screw it up as I want to be free from the threat of terrorism here as well as prosper economically.


  55. blue state bob Says:

    And where do you live Tim?

    in one of those red states that take a lot more from the federal government than they pay in taxes, unlike blue states who pay a lot more in taxes than we get because we have to support you welfare queens?

    in one of those states that is represented by someone who claims to be a patriot, but who avoided service and is probably banging his baby sitter or pool boy?

    One of those states who have much higher crime rates, teenage pregnancy rates, and divorce rates than those supposed godless liberal states?

    one of those states where grown men cower under their beds and wet their pants over the terrorists when no terrorist has struck within 1,500 miles of their trailer park??

    So which state is it you big, fat (forgot to mention the obesity rates in red states) lazy welfare receiving, like Joe the Plumber, coward???? Seriously, which state, so I can laugh at you even more.


  56. Tim Vaculik Says:

    Zooey,

    I'm not doing homework for those too lazy to find out things they already should know.


  57. Wayne A. Schneider Says:

    Tim Vaculik Says:

    You won’t see our current President stoop to such low-class tactics.

    First of all, he hasn't left yet, so I wouldn't be so quick to point out that he won't be taking anything. Is he going to take Saddma's pistol? That doesn't belong to him.

    Second, what kind of "low-class tactics" of his do you support? You think it showed class when, as he steps off Marine One and waves to the crowd, he hocks a loogey off to the side? Do you think it showed class when he wipes his glasses on the jacket of Letterman's producer? Do you think it showed class when he told the Sheriff of Americus, GA, (a town struck by a devastating tornado) that he would like to see Habitat for Humanity get down there, apparently unaware that Habitat for Humanity is based is Americus, GA? You think it showed class when he gave German Chancellor Angela Merkel an unsolicited back rub? And do you think it showed class when Bush ridiculed a White House reporter for wearing sunglasses at a presser, when the reporter was, in fact,suffering from a degenerative eye condition that made his eyes very sensitive to light?

    I could go on, but I think I made my point. George W. Bush has no class. So, please, do not come here and try to tell us he does.


  58. Tim Vaculik Says:

    bsb,

    Morons don't usually get responses from me.


  59. Zooey Says:

    Tim Vaculik Says:

    Zooey,

    I’m not doing homework for those too lazy to find out things they already should know.
    November 9th, 2008 at 7:34 pm

    You made the allegations, you lazy dimwit. It's your homework.

    We already KNOW the truth. I understand that you're afraid to find out that you've been led around by the nose like a useless sheep, but the first step to solving the problem is to admit that you're an idiot.


  60. dbadass Says:

    Hi LushInterior


  61. dbadass Says:

    Ya know what Tim Vaculik?


  62. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    Tim Vaculik Says:

    Where I live, ALL presidents are our Presidents.
    __________

    Geez, Timmeh... then we can trust you'll respect PRESIDENT OBAMA come 1/20/09, huh?
    ___________

    Where I live, we don’t need refreshers courses in flag etiquette.
    ___________

    Oh Good Dog... not this inane gibberish again. I personally cannot remember the last time I saw a flag burned. Talk about irrelevant...
    ___________

    Where I live, if we disagree with our President we don’t make it personal.
    ___________

    Then again, Timmeh... I guess you'll be respectful towards Obama, huh? Can we trust you'll condemn folks like John Derbyshire when he compared Obama's comments about volunteerism to Nazi work camps, or Focus on the Family saying Obama's victory was the equivalent the Nazis bombing London?

    Well... Timmeh?


  63. Tim Vaculik Says:

    LushInterior,

    Well spoken. I know this to be true, but I come to learn, not just make a few comments here and there.

    One thing is clear: Obama's victory hasn't provided the release of endorphins that accompany peace of mind some of these folks desperately need.


  64. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    Tim Vaculik Says:

    Morons don’t usually get responses from me.
    _________

    I take this to mean that when Timmeh talks to himself, no one answers...


  65. jb Says:

    Over one million innocents killed for a chosen war of aggression. Yes, I truly do hate the current president. And so does much of the rest of the world.


  66. Zooey Says:

    The Tim troll lives in the state of perpetual denial.

    The poor thing...


  67. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    LushInterior Says:

    Tim….you are much to nice a person to be here, please leave.
    ________

    Oh, give it up, you pathetic assh*t. You've been outted here.

    Gee... you're sooooooooo cleaver.


  68. blue state bob Says:

    Tim Vaculik Says:

    bsb,

    Morons don’t usually get responses from me.

    You mention terrorists, where do you live you piece of fecal matter? I live in NYC, work blocks from the WTC. Why did NYC go 80% for Obama, because we know terror and know that the GOP used 3,000 of our dead friends and neighbors for their political gain after failing to protect them. So please STFU you scum sucking COWARD


  69. dbadass Says:

    Damn this charade is weak...


  70. Tim Vaculik Says:

    The Republic of Stupidity,

    You didn't read the Seattle Post Intelligenser story the other day? It was really quite good as they interviewed people who are now purchasing flags after eight long years! The folks they interviewed had strange feelings they weren't accustomed to as they held the flags in their hands!

    Fair weather patriots, indeed.


  71. Zooey Says:

    blue state bob Says:

    So please STFU you scum sucking COWARD
    November 9th, 2008 at 7:41 pm

    Well spoken, blue state bob. We love a guy who speaks truth with such clarity and precision.


  72. Wayne A. Schneider Says:

    Tim Vaculik Says:

    Where I live, we don’t need refreshers courses in flag etiquette.

    Well, you must live where Bush does. See here and here.

    Bush only knows how to demand respect, not show it.


  73. superid Says:

    Carter Liles where are you?


  74. Tim Vaculik Says:

    The Republic of Stupidity,

    I will be respectful of our new President. This doesn't mean that I have to agree with him or the policies, etc., he may try to enact.

    I'm not responsible for what others say.


  75. jb Says:

    The flag was hijacked by right wing extremists. It will be nice to see it returned to all the people of the USA.


  76. dbadass Says:

    Tim Vaculik:
    How many of those flags were being bought up for potential burning? See there is this weird thing about expressive thought in my country...


  77. ralph the wonder llama Says:

    Tim Vaculik Says:
    Zooey,

    I’m not doing homework for those too lazy to find out things they already should know.

    Translation: "I can't back up anything I say, so I will pretend that it's your fault that I don't provide any links."

    Thanks, Tim. Got it.


  78. Zooey Says:

    Bingo, ralph.


  79. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    Telling story.

    I have an acquaintance who's grown adult daughter was in Tanzania w/ her mother on Nov 4. In the middle of the night, they were wondering how they would find out about the election. Then, they started hearing cheering and people shouting in the dark, all over the place. The locals had found out Obama had won and were celebrating... in the middle of the night, in Tanzania.

    The next morning, they went out wearing their Obama buttons and were mobbing by happy locals. The president of the country declared the day after a national holiday, because no one was coming to work anyways.

    The ENTRIE world is relieved Botch is almost gone, and McCain just ISN'T, period. And even conservative publishers aren't interested in Botch's memoirs.


  80. Zooey Says:

    That is a fantastic story, TRoS. Thanks! :-)


  81. Tim Vaculik Says:

    I think it's quite telling that the "world" wanted Obama to win...

    Say more than I can about who and what he really is.


  82. Tim Vaculik Says:

    jb,

    You wouldn't know an "extremist" (left or right-wing) if he hit you upside the head with a rolled up newspaper...


  83. Wayne A. Schneider Says:

    Tim Vaculik Says:

    jb,

    You wouldn’t know an “extremist” (left or right-wing) if he hit you upside the head with a rolled up newspaper…

    Sure we would, they're on Fox News Channel all the time.


  84. Zooey Says:

    Ohhhhhhh, who and what are President-Elect Obama, Tim troll?

    Do tell!


  85. Tim Vaculik Says:

    Dr. Hussein Matt,

    Have you been reading Bill Ayers, Saul Alinsky, and Karl Marx again?

    You bad boy...


  86. MCMetal Says:

    Tim Vaculik Says:
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    I think it’s quite telling that the “world” wanted Obama to win…

    Say more than I can about who and what he really is.

    November 9th, 2008 at 7:48 pm

    Because we realize you aren't cpapable of recognizing an educated , worldly individual...........


  87. wiley Says:

    It works for me, Tim. When more than one thing is "clear" to you, let us know.


  88. dbadass Says:

    I really hope my e-waste is not hurting others...


  89. Wayne A. Schneider Says:

    Tim Vaculik Says:

    Zooey,

    I’m not doing homework for those too lazy to find out things they already should know.

    Ah, the famous "Joe the Plumber Defense" for outrageous statements.


  90. Zooey Says:

    Tim Vaculik Says:

    Dr. Hussein Matt,

    Have you been reading Bill Ayers, Saul Alinsky, and Karl Marx again?

    You bad boy…
    November 9th, 2008 at 7:52 pm

    I was reading Marx just this morning. It's called getting an education -- you can look it up.

    We don't only learn from things with which we are in total agreement, dumbass.


  91. gummitch Says:

    Tim Vaculik Says:

    I think it’s quite telling that the “world” wanted Obama to win…

    Say more than I can about who and what he really is.

    Indeed. It's telling that Bush has so thoroughly bespoiled the named of the American presidency that pretty much everyone on the planet is disgusted.


  92. superid Says:

    Tim Vaculik,

    Do you like be hit upside the head with cylindrical objects?


  93. dbadass Says:

    Pig Pile on Tim Vaculik!!!!


  94. stewarjt Says:

    Photo Caption:

    For the first time, Mr. Bush meets the type of man that is supposed to be president.


  95. ralph the wonder llama Says:

    Here's some backup for Timmeh regarding the "damage to the White House" urban legend:

    May 18, 2001 the General Accounting Office issued a three-page letter that said that it was unable confirm the damage largely to a lack of records from the White House. The letter also said that the condition of the White House offices was "...consistent with what we would expect to encounter when tenants vacate office space after an extended occupancy."

    The false story about keyboards with missing "W" keys, apparently started the whole thing.



  96. Keltoi at Night Says:

    I wonder if W will fill in O on how he pulled off 9-11...


  97. Tim Vaculik Says:

    Zooey,

    It is for you to find out, should you ever awaken...

    Here's a little story. Early on I recognized the powerful speaking ability Obama has developed and refined to an extraordinarily high degree.

    When this election season started I purposefully chose to never listen to him, watch him on TV, etc.. Why? I found out how important this was when I finally did during the debates. Even I was mesmerized by his speech and his ability to evoke emotions. Of course, I was listening to what he was ACTUALLY saying during this time, but I was still amazed by my own emotional reaction afterwards.

    Quite a substantial number of his supporters who attended his rallies likely have no idea what he really said. They only know how they FEEL!

    He's one for the history books all right.


  98. ralph the wonder llama Says:

    superid Says:
    Tim Vaculik,

    Do you like be hit upside the head with cylindrical objects?

    Like a Swingmaster 5000 Professional Troller's Mallet with precision balance, leather grips and graphite handle, perhaps?


  99. Tim Vaculik Says:

    ralph the wonder llama,

    Next thing you know, you'll be saying the Clintons never had to return a thing they took from the White House...


  100. Zooey Says:

    Tim Vaculik Says:

    Quite a substantial number of his supporters who attended his rallies likely have no idea what he really said. They only know how they FEEL!

    He’s one for the history books all right.
    November 9th, 2008 at 8:02 pm

    Gosh, I hit it right on the head when I said you were a useless sheep being led around by the nose. That's for that validation.

    Wow.


  101. dbadass Says:

    Hello Tim Vaculik...
    Are you dodging?


  102. ralph the wonder llama Says:

    Yeah, Timmeh, you gotta be suspicious of people who talk real good.

    The only ones you can really trust are folks who don't talk good. Like Dubya.

    After all, fool me once, shame on -- shame on you. Fool me... uh, can't get fooled again.


  103. Tim Vaculik Says:

    gummitch,

    It might be something else entirely. Put down that kool-aid and do some research, will ya?

    I just have to say that I find it VERY troubling that so many terrorists and heads of state in Marxist countries wanted to see Obama win.

    If this doesn't tell you something, then you aren't reachable.


  104. ralph the wonder llama Says:

    Tim Vaculik Says:
    ralph the wonder llama,

    Next thing you know, you’ll be saying the Clintons never had to return a thing they took from the White House…

    Well, Timmeh, of the two of us, I'm the only one who has offered any links to back up what I've said.


  105. superid Says:

    You run the government at a surplus while creating 22 million jobs you can have anything you want out of the White House.


  106. Tim Vaculik Says:

    Zooey,

    You gotta be like 18 years old or something. Do you even read?


  107. gummitch Says:

    Tim Vaculik Says:

    Here’s a little story. Early on I recognized the powerful speaking ability Obama has developed and refined to an extraordinarily high degree.

    When this election season started I purposefully chose to never listen to him, watch him on TV, etc.. Why? I found out how important this was when I finally did during the debates. Even I was mesmerized by his speech and his ability to evoke emotions. Of course, I was listening to what he was ACTUALLY saying during this time, but I was still amazed by my own emotional reaction afterwards.

    In other words, you personally are so bereft of intellectual ability that you are mesmerized by someone's speech patterns. Interesting. Your mistake (or this particular mistake) is thinking that the rest of us are so weak-minded.


  108. Wayne A. Schneider Says:

    Actually, Tim, appealing to one's emotions is how the Republicans have garnered support for decades. Not reason, emotion. It's been known for some time that reason is the slave to our emotions, and that when people get emotionally riled up about someting, they usually look for ways to justify it afterwards, even if those ways make no sense.

    The Republicans, unable to put out a coherent, reasoned argument why they should be elected, instead deliberately hit on hot-button issues (like gay marriage, or flag-burning) to get their "base" in a fever pitch, usually with anger and hatred.

    Barack Obama's words were inspiring to many of us because he did not call for anyone to hate anyone else. The same cannot be said of the Republicans.

    Did you know, Tim, that the Secret Service reported that Palin's rhetoric on the campaign trail caused a spike in death threats against Sen Obama? It's true.


  109. blue state bob Says:

    Tim:

    Ever going to respond to where you live and why you hide in your basement wearing Depends cowering from those big bad terrorists and defending Bush on whose watch 3,000 Americans died?? Or are you just a pathetic coward??? Maybe that's it, but you do know proper flag etiquette. That's so much more important, proves your patriotism.


  110. shoeless Says:

    Did Bush's hand sanitizer take the black off Barack's hand too?


  111. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    Tim Vaculik Says:

    I’m not responsible for what others say.
    ____________

    A choice sampling of Timmeh's comments...

    ****

    Tim Vaculik Says:

    It’s fascinating to finally come here and see for myself what a vicious pack of dogs you “progressives” really are!!!

    Actually, I know that last statement isn’t true because I know for a fact the type of vicious bile spewed her represents a small minority of folks, who simply have small minds (and a few small other parts as well if you get my drift)
    ____________

    No, Timmeh... I don't get it... what is your drift here?
    ____________

    Tim Vaculik Says:

    Want more, you pussies?

    _____________

    Wow.. that sure is civil of you, Timmeh... and sexist...
    _____________

    Tim Vaculik Says:

    It’s simply amazing to watch you rabid Bush haters in action. You’ll make great little Brown Shirts for Obama’s coming revolution.
    _____________

    My fave, Timmeh... you manage to denigrate everyone here AND compare Obama to Hitler in one sentence. Nice.

    What was that about not being responsible for what others say?


  112. Tim Vaculik Says:

    Well, it was fun while it lasted, but I have wasted enough time already.

    Adios, mofos!


  113. Zooey Says:

    Have fun with the troll, y'all. I leave him to your tender mercies.

    I wish he were a better and smarter troll, but we play Whack-a-Troll (tm) with the trolls we're given, not the trolls we wish we had.

    Toodles!


  114. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    Tim Vaculik Says:

    ... but I was still amazed by my own emotional reaction afterwards.
    __________

    This no doubt involved Timmeh getting, how shall we say, a FIRM grasp on himself and proceeding to, ah, rub vigorously until...


  115. ralph the wonder llama Says:

    Tim Vaculik Says:
    gummitch,

    It might be something else entirely. Put down that kool-aid and do some research, will ya?

    I just have to say that I find it VERY troubling that so many terrorists and heads of state in Marxist countries wanted to see Obama win.

    If this doesn’t tell you something, then you aren’t reachable.

    Timmeh, do you find it troubling that "terrorists and heads of state in Marxist countries" also like chocolate ice cream?

    If that doesn't tell you something then you aren't reachable.


  116. dbadass Says:

    Tim Vaculik,
    Don't split yet we have so much to talk of and so much for you to avoid when I address you directly. Are you a pussy?


  117. ralph the wonder llama Says:

    Tim Vaculik Says:
    Well, it was fun while it lasted, but I have wasted enough time already.

    Timmeh, I have a difficult time imagining you doing anything that isn't a waste of time.


  118. Wayne A. Schneider Says:

    Tim Vaculik Says:

    I just have to say that I find it VERY troubling that so many terrorists and heads of state in Marxist countries wanted to see Obama win.

    And that is a lie. Care to provide us with a list of names (and evidence) that "so many terrorists" wanted Obama to win? Care to come up with a list of countries that didn't want Obama to win? In fact, how many countries can you name in which the head of state said they were hoping McCain would win? Besides Israel?


  119. blue state bob Says:

    Tim Vaculik Says:

    Well, it was fun while it lasted, but I have wasted enough time already.

    Adios, mofos!

    Translated: Tim's mom needs the computer for her computer sex job.


  120. superid Says:

    Tim, enough with the kool-aid. If you want to be taken seriously, try not to sound like Elizabeth Hasselbeck when she's out of Klonapin. When you bleat about Obama and terrorists and marxists you are insulting Colin Powell.


  121. gummitch Says:

    Tim Vaculik Says:

    gummitch,

    It might be something else entirely. Put down that kool-aid and do some research, will ya?

    It might be, but one would have to be divorced from reality to go looking for answers that aren't necessary.

    I just have to say that I find it VERY troubling that so many terrorists and heads of state in Marxist countries wanted to see Obama win.

    If this doesn’t tell you something, then you aren’t reachable.

    You must have been deeply concerned, then, to learn that bin Laden was rooting for G W Bush in 2004.

    And I assume you're deeply impressed by the "many" heads of state of free countries in Europe, Asia, Australia and Latin America who wanted to see Obama win.


  122. Wayne A. Schneider Says:

    Adios, mofos!

    More projection for ya.


  123. livelongandprosper Says:

    Quite a substantial number of his supporters who attended his rallies likely have no idea what he really said. They only know how they FEEL!

    LOL Sounds more like a Palin rally. Oh wait, she never actually said anything. LOL


  124. shoeless Says:

    Tim Vaculik Says:

    I just have to say that I find it VERY troubling that so many terrorists and heads of state in Marxist countries wanted to see Obama win.

    Marxist countries? There only two remotely "Marxist countries" remaining, Cuba and China. I wasn't aware that either of those countries had chimed in much during this election.

    As far as the terrorists go, al Qaeda endorsed John McCain.

    Al-Qaeda Supporters Endorse McCain</strong

    You're kinda stupid, eh Tim?


  125. ralph the wonder llama Says:

    Wayne A. Schneider Says:
    Tim Vaculik Says:

    I just have to say that I find it VERY troubling that so many terrorists and heads of state in Marxist countries wanted to see Obama win.

    And that is a lie. Care to provide us with a list of names (and evidence) that “so many terrorists” wanted Obama to win?

    Oh, Wayne, that is so quaint -- thinking that our Timmeh troll might deign to provide evidence for his claims (or, as Timmeh chooses to see it, "do our homework for us").

    That's not how Timmeh rolls.


  126. MCMetal Says:

    Tim Vaculik Says:
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Well, it was fun while it lasted, but I have wasted enough time already.

    Adios, mofos!

    November 9th, 2008 at 8:10 pm

    Kind of hard to imagine this d0uchebag actually being productive at any given time ...........What a loser.


  127. dbadass Says:

    For real who says "mofo"? Is this place like some sort of monster truck rally?


  128. dbadass Says:

    Hey McMetal:
    Thanks for reminding me of the appropriate spelling of d0uchebag...


  129. Fred Says:

    The world would have voted overwhelmingly for Obama.

    World Electoral College


  130. Jane E. Schneider Says:

    Go f!ck yourself, Tim Vacuous!


  131. shoeless Says:

    Where is Tracy to tell us he isn't racist because he doesn't disinfect himself every time his "best friend who is black" comes near him?


  132. MCMetal Says:

    dass Says:
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Hey McMetal:
    Thanks for reminding me of the appropriate spelling of d0uchebag…

    November 9th, 2008 at 8:27 pm

    Always glad to help ..........


  133. dbadass Says:

    No shit I am so glad that we all can say/spell d0uchebag now. Now if only we can all agree on the correct spelling of anole eyes....


  134. Wayne Says:

    Tim Vaculik Says:

    You can’t re-write history.

    So says the troll trying to rewrite history......

    **eyes rolling**


  135. shoeless Says:

    Fred Says:

    The world would have voted overwhelmingly for Obama.

    World Electoral College

    See, that is the problem. Right-wing extremist ashholes like Tim aren't happy unless the entire world hates the United States. For some reason, the intense hatred of 6 billion people makes them feel all warm and squishy inside.


  136. Wayne Says:

    MCMetal Says:

    dass Says:
    ——————————————————————————–

    Hey McMetal:
    Thanks for reminding me of the appropriate spelling of d0uchebag…

    November 9th, 2008 at 8:27 pm

    Always glad to help ……….

    Timmy was really, really grateful that you helped him remember how to spell his real name, McMetal. hehe


  137. MCMetal Says:

    Wayne Says:
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    MCMetal Says:

    dass Says:
    ——————————————————————————–

    Hey McMetal:
    Thanks for reminding me of the appropriate spelling of d0uchebag…

    November 9th, 2008 at 8:27 pm

    Always glad to help ……….

    Timmy was really, really grateful that you helped him remember how to spell his real name, McMetal. hehe

    November 9th, 2008 at 8:47 pm

    Wonder who ties his shoelaces for him ..........


  138. JosephP Says:

    Tim Vaculik claims White House vandalism by the outgoing Clinton Administration.

    Here's the GAO report to Congressman Bob Barr, for which we taxpayers paid $200,000:
    http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d02360.pdf

    Page 18:

    "...we were unable to conclude whether the 2001 transition was worse than previous ones."

    From the San Francisco Chronicle (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2001/05/19/MN169709.DTL):

    Bernie Ungar, director of physical infrastructure at the agency, said inquiries he made at the request of Rep. Bob Barr, R-Ga., led him to conclude that Clinton officials might have engaged in pranks during the transition, but did not cause major damage.

    "My sense is there probably (were) some phones pulled or whatever; I don't have a way to determine that," Ungar said, referring to accounts that office lines had been cut. "But there wasn't indication of real, significant, widespread damage."


  139. katy Says:

    dbadass Says:
    I really hope my e-waste is not hurting others…

    you watched that too! good 60minutes tonight...

    hard to imagine those people are so desperate...
    and others are so greedy...

    shame...


  140. Jackie Says:

    The real reason for the Meeting so early.
    Bush tried to get the War Crime Detainee Bill passed but failed. Deep in the Bill was a pardon for everyone who committed crimes even Bush and Cheney. It's call HR 6094 Bill. Now Bush will be talking to Obama about a pardon for himself. Remember Nixon got Ford to pardon him for his crimes. Look for Dick Cheney to visit his cousin Obama before Jan. 20th to ask for a pardon.

    This is a rush job because the Bush lawyers don't have time and much of a chance to protect Bush for being charged with War Crimes once all the information comes out..



  141. freeman Says:

    Obama should inform George he doesn't shake hands with war criminals . George bush and dick Cheney are directly responsible for the deaths of 1 1/2 million people through their illegal invasion of another country in order to attempt to control world oil supplies !
    Torture , domestic spying and the shredding of our constitution have done untold damage to our democracy and there must be an accounting ! This is far from over !


  142. wisedup Says:

    Interesting Jackie. The iceing on the cake for me would be for Federal Marshals to handcuff bush and dick right after Obama takes the oath.


  143. Dr. Hussein Matt Says:

    Jackie Says:

    The real reason for the Meeting so early.
    Bush tried to get the War Crime Detainee Bill passed but failed. Deep in the Bill was a pardon for everyone who committed crimes even Bush and Cheney. It’s call HR 6094 Bill.

    Bullsh*t. http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c110:H.R.6094:


  144. freeman Says:

    Why was the Army activated on the American continent as of Oct. 1st for 1 year through a signing statement when Bush is leaving office before February ?
    Signing statements and the loss of posse comitatus are dangerous to our democracy .


  145. freeman Says:

    Why were members of the house of Represenattives told that there would be martial law in the country if they didn't vote for the bailout ?


  146. Wayne A. Schneider Says:

    I read the bill that Dr. Matt linked to, Jackie, and I have to say that you need to check your sources. Where did you hear this? I would like to know what liberal sources are saying that? Or was it some commenter's opinion on some site?


  147. Wayne A. Schneider Says:

    freeman,

    Point us to where you learned of this information, please. Thank you.


  148. freeman Says:

    Democracy now ran a piece on it . Give me a moment I've spent 4 hours in the car today dropping my wife off at an Art show , as well as taking abuse here .
    http://www.democracynow.org/2008/10/7/us_army_denies_unit_will_be



  149. Dr. Hussein Matt Says:

    freeman, you still haven't F**ked yourself yet, you POS arsehole. We're waiting....better yet, find that freeway and go play in the fast land, you loser.


  150. katy Says:

    paraphrasing Ann Landers:

    No one can take advantage of you

    without your permission.



  151. freeman Says:

    Matt perhaps you should check the terms of use for this site , I have a feeling they say something along the lines of no personal attacks and no use of expletives .


  152. freeman Says:

    Heres a little help ...
    You agree to:
    • Respect other Bloggers - please do not threaten, insult, abuse, intimidate or harass other Blog users.


  153. Wayne A. Schneider Says:

    Thank you, freeman. On the second point, it appears that Members of Congress really were threatened into passing a bailout bill quickly. How disgusting of Bush.

    On your first point, if Bush did it with a signing statement, it has no effect of Law. Signing statements by the president are not how laws are passed in this country. Not the ones passed constitutionally, anyway. But if I ever see military troops patrolling my streets, you better believe I will challenge their authority to be there. If they arrest me, I will prove their actions illegal in court. If they kill me, my wife will get a very large settlement from them. Either way, she wins! :)


  154. freeman Says:

    Perhaps you don't value blogging here .


  155. freeman Says:

    Yes I know wayne but while not a law it still has yet to be dragged into the Supreme's and in any case the army is still activated on our soil . Very scary ,but after my experience here today , it may be the lesser of 2 evils .
    I need an aspirin and a nap urgghhh. I grew up in NY but I still never managed to develope a thick skin , which is why I left , move to washington state and pursued the arts .


  156. katy Says:

    does anyone else remember a sometimes interesting and congenial but mostly self-righteous and sanctimonious poster who went by "Humanist"? (or something like that)

    seems like old times...


  157. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    freeman Says:

    I have a feeling they say something along the lines of [...} and no use of expletives.
    _________

    WTF? Why, who in $%#'s name made up THAT stupid $%^#@*&@$*in' rule?

    They can just go *&^*&@#$*&#^$ themselves...


  158. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    katy Says:

    does anyone else remember a sometimes interesting and congenial but mostly self-righteous and sanctimonious poster who went by “Humanist”?
    ________

    Heh... I mebbe guilty of a lotta t'ings, but sancitmony ain't one of 'em...


  159. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    Apparently spelling isn't one of them either... sanctimony... the word is sanctimony.


  160. The Republic of Stupidity Says:

    katy Says:

    No one can take advantage of you without your permission.
    ___________

    Hmmm... does this mean I need my own permission to take advantage of myself?


  161. freeman Says:

    Okay that is funny , Rep of stu .
    Sorry , but this all began with the post above on emmanuel a couple days ago and the fact that I have had several friends tell me independently they no longer read the comments here because of the adolescent behavior and negetivity toward other progressive bloggers .


  162. freeman Says:

    You wand I fics nagetividy now rpe of stew ?


  163. Game of Life Says:

    Jackie@146

    chimpy knows better than to pull a stunt like that. If he needs a pardon, then chimpy is guilty.


  164. katy Says:

    tros - did you think i was referring to YOU?


  165. freeman Says:

    Hey that's a double entendre , seems all that shakespear paid off .


  166. ralph the wonder llama Says:

    freeman Says:

    I have had several friends tell me independently they no longer read the comments here because of the adolescent behavior and negetivity toward other progressive bloggers .

    That's funny; I have had several friends tell me independently that the adolescent behavior and negativity toward other bloggers is exactly the reason they read the comments here MORE OFTEN.


  167. the Lone Voice of Reason Says:

    Darn, you guys ran my favorite troll off already? You're good.

    I heard gun sales went way up around the election. Could it be for the reason of the deployment on our soil or was it the rednecks taking up arms to defend themselves from the scary black people? I've heard it both ways? Ideas anyone?


  168. the Lone Voice of Reason Says:

    Ralph the wonder llama says: That’s funny; I have had several friends tell me independently that the adolescent behavior and negativity toward other bloggers is exactly the reason they read the comments here MORE OFTEN.

    Hey, that's why I come here. You guys seriously crack me up and give me erudite information at the same time. Like Real Time but in real time.


  169. barfly Says:

    Ideas anyone?

    It's irrelevant.

    Obama's already leaking some of the regulations he'll roll back, first thing.

    One is the ban on stem-cell research. Another, is permission to drill in sensitve areas of Utah.


  170. the Lone Voice of Reason Says:

    We passed Proposal 2 here-that was stem cell research. I am all for it.

    the gun thing--well, some people were hedging their bets on who would win and I don't think it was the people concerned that our troops would be deployed against us. I think it was the fear mongering that there would be riots from the election and those were the people hoping to take potshots at some minorities if they could. I get that from talking to the general idiots who live around me (kkk land, remember?)


  171. the Lone Voice of Reason Says:

    If you wonder why I am living in the land of idiots, we get a lot of people from Kentucky moving up here. Explains a lot ;)


  172. RUCerious Says:

    Obama will have his list of reversal's ready on day one.
    Crooks, beware, hands in the cookie jar after Jan 20 09, may remain there, sans arm...


  173. Jim Says:

    You don’t remember the Clinton staffers TRASHING their White House offices?

    I don't remember, because it never happened. This is only one example of the mean-spirited lies the Republican Party has promulgated about the Clinton administration. (And, by the way, I wasn't a Clinton supporter then, nor have I ever been.) Republicans, it seems, have to invent these stories to support their deeply-held beliefs about Democrats, since nothing in reality supports their deranged ideas. If they actually had to deal with REAL Democrats in the REAL world, they might discover that they're not such bad people after all. But that, apparently, is just too threatening to their worldview.


  174. Game of Life Says:

    freeman Says:

    Okay that is funny , Rep of stu .
    Sorry , but this all began with the post above on emmanuel a couple days ago and the fact that I have had several friends tell me independently they no longer read the comments here because of the adolescent behavior and negetivity toward other progressive bloggers .

    Stop your lying you have no friends.

    Why do trolls invade blogs with their unverified stupidness and then cry foul when they are hit with a phonebook of truth.

    Go, you trolls bring this blog down with your crazy uneducated trite bs.

    Go with the repugs
    Remember Nov. 4th.


  175. southrnbelle Says:

    EX-PRESIDENT MONK!!!!!!!!!!!!


  176. MCMetal Says:

    freeman Says:
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Yes I know wayne but while not a law it still has yet to be dragged into the Supreme’s and in any case the army is still activated on our soil . Very scary ,but after my experience here today , it may be the lesser of 2 evils .
    I need an aspirin and a nap urgghhh. I grew up in NY but I still never managed to develope a thick skin , which is why I left , move to washington state and pursued the arts .

    November 9th, 2008 at 10:29 pm

    What is the above nonsense supposed to mean ?

    That those who grew up and stayed in the NY/Tri State area and have thick skins are incapable of being artists ?

    You obviously are not in the music business , because if you were , you wouldn't be saying anything even remotely that naive' and foolish .....


  177. Game of Life Says:

    Oh the horror, he will swear on
    "My Pet Goat"


  178. Fred Says:

    freeman Says:

    I have had several friends tell me independently they no longer read the comments here because of the adolescent behavior and negetivity toward other progressive bloggers .

    Funny, TP met national attention in positive ways long before you came alone to tell us how to behave.

    Your "concern" concerns me.

    If you were a progressive you would understand about democracy which is why the bloggers here decide who has to go, not TP.

    Go to redstate and just post a progressive idea, no cursing ect and see how long you last.

    Phony outrage is what the gop uses......sounds like you read the book.


  179. Fred Says:

    LushInterior Says:
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Hummmm…..on what book will the Messiah place his hand at the swearing in?

    At least he doesn't think the constitution is just a god damned piece of paper.

    freeman, sorry if that offends you, it's a quote from george bush. Take it up with him.


  180. Fred Says:

    freeman Says:
    Very scary ,but after my experience here today , it may be the lesser of 2 evils.

    You created your own experience here today. You kept on and on and on about how badly progessives here treat other progressives here(namely you).

    You did it for about 6 hours by my count on at least 3 threads. You single handidly shut down those threads.

    I got to tell ya, most kids don't whine as much as you do. Aduldts use vulgar language, get over it.

    Trolls come here with guns a blazin and then whine when we treat them with such distain........

    You come here telling us how it is reminds me of 1st louies in the nam era coming in country and trying to make grunts who had been in the jungle for months shine their boots. You surely know the rest of the story.

    Grow up and be a man. This aint kindergarden.


  181. Fred Says:

    sorry about the spelling errors......it's late and I didn't take time to spell check.


  182. freeman Says:

    Gee apparently the main reason for posting here is to act in ways that you could never get away with face to face , in real life , in civil society , for entertainment. Your idea of informed commentary is to insult the people whom you disagree with in the most childish of terms , name calling teasing and cursing them out , even other progressives ? Remarkable .
    Here I was thinking the point of blogging on this site was to inform one another and sharpen our arguments , in order to oppose the destruction of the constitution and perhaps in some small way to oppose the deaths of perhaps millions of innocent human beings .
    I have a hard time seeing that as very progressive .Thanx for the education .


  183. freeman Says:

    TP should change their terms of use to keep up with the times .


  184. Fred Says:

    just more phony outrage. Use it constructivly.

    I can only assume that you are busy keeping all the blogs on the internets nice and clean. Please link to where you do this at red state.


  185. the Lone Voice of Reason Says:

    F off, Lushie, go suck your PBR bottle (sorry freeman). My goodness, still haven't figured out that Obama IS a Christian? He certainly upholds the ideals of Christ better than your ilk. The Messiah reference is so lame, but then again, are not the GOP calling Newtie their Moses? Pseudo bible thumpers


  186. MCMetal Says:

    freeman Says:
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Gee apparently the main reason for posting here is to act in ways that you could never get away with face to face , in real life , in civil society , for entertainment. Your idea of informed commentary is to insult the people whom you disagree with in the most childish of terms , name calling teasing and cursing them out , even other progressives ? Remarkable .
    Here I was thinking the point of blogging on this site was to inform one another and sharpen our arguments , in order to oppose the destruction of the constitution and perhaps in some small way to oppose the deaths of perhaps millions of innocent human beings .
    I have a hard time seeing that as very progressive .Thanx for the education .

    November 10th, 2008 at 12:36 am

    And your idea of "informed commentary" is to behave like an arrogant , know-it-all jerkoff , making off-the-wall and incredibly ignorant and naive statements ?

    Good luck with that ............

    BTW

    Do not talk about how some of us here "behave" in a way on this blog that is unlike what we are like in "real life" ; you don't know anyone here , so it would behoove you to stop talking out your ass ...........


  187. freeman Says:

    Oh and Fred , I'm not going anywhere .
    The Dalai Lama said that the best experience you can have for your spiritual growth is an enemy , because it can strengthen your practice of compassion .
    I quess this is a blessing .


  188. Fred Says:

    Guess you think you're being nice and making friends......news flash. You are as offensive as any one who curses.

    See I got a mother in law like you. She is the most evil person on the earth and she does some vile and borderline criminal things but she never curses and she will not tolerate it from anyone else......sound familiar?


  189. Fred Says:

    freeman Says:
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Oh and Fred , I’m not going anywhere .
    The Dalai Lama said that the best experience you can have for your spiritual growth is an enemy , because it can strengthen your practice of compassion .
    I quess this is a blessing .

    So now we are the enemy. Thinly veiled inuindo is just as bad as slinging slurs in my opinion and are not a civilized way to have a discussion......you are disqualified.

    How's that feel mr self-righteous?


  190. the Lone Voice of Reason Says:

    freeman--the Eastern philosophy approach is just going to have us smashing off your head some more. Perhaps a better approach would be to leave the I-Ching-y references out, spiritual growth not withstanding, and stick more to topic?


  191. freeman Says:

    . Blog Community Rules. We have adopted the “Blog Community Rules” set forth below to create a forum where information and progressive views can be shared in a productive way. While using the Blog, you agree to adhere to the Blog Community Rules below.
    You agree to:
    • Respect other Bloggers - please do not threaten, insult, abuse, intimidate or harass other Blog users.
    .........
    This is th first rule under the terms of use , do you think it is innappropriate ? Do you think it is an accident that it is the first rule tp thought to post ?


  192. freeman Says:

    • Post any content to the Blog that is unlawful, racist, hateful, libelous, defamatory, obscene, or that intentionally discriminates against or harasses particular individuals or groups.


  193. MCMetal Says:

    freeman Says:
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Oh and Fred , I’m not going anywhere .
    The Dalai Lama said that the best experience you can have for your spiritual growth is an enemy , because it can strengthen your practice of compassion .
    I quess this is a blessing .

    November 10th, 2008 at 12:46 am

    At least now I realize where it is you get your remarkably idiotic arrogance from .......Anyone who ridiculously claims to be the reincarnation of all other previous Dalai Lamas needs psychiatric counseling ; not to be preaching nonsense....


  194. Fred Says:

    freeman Says:
    Oh and Fred , I’m not going anywhere.

    I know because you don't have a job and you have dedicated your life to coming here and teaching the old dogs a trick or two.

    Nevermind that you completly shut down any kind of discussion that might be trying to spark....noooooo, we can't have that. So in so called someone a so in so. We must address that before we can talk about anything important.

    Good luck.


  195. MCMetal Says:

    freeman Says:
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    This is th first rule under the terms of use , do you think it is innappropriate ?

    November 10th, 2008 at 12:53 am

    I find your presence here inappropriate....And incredibly unnecessary


  196. Fred Says:

    Well, I honestly hear what you're whining about except I don't see any of it in our threads. You just keep going on and on and on about it but I don't see it.

    All I see are your petty, whiney, simpering attempts to keep our attention.

    Don't have any friends, huh?


  197. the Lone Voice of Reason Says:

    OCD-Obsessive Compulsive Disorder (back to the hand sanitizer thread)
    Diagnostic criteria

    To be diagnosed with OCD, a person must have either obsessions or compulsions alone, or obsessions and compulsions, according to the DSM-IV-TR diagnostic criteria. The Quick Reference to the diagnostic criteria from DSM-IV-TR (2000)[2] states six characteristics of obsessions and compulsions:

    Obsessions

    1. Recurrent and persistent thoughts, impulses, or images that are experienced as intrusive and that cause marked anxiety or distress.
    2. The thoughts, impulses, or images are not simply excessive worries about real-life problems.
    3. The person attempts to ignore or suppress such thoughts, impulses, or images, or to neutralize them with some other thought or action.
    4. The person recognizes that the obsessional thoughts, impulses, or images are a product of his or her own mind, and are not based in reality.

    Compulsions

    1. Repetitive behaviors or mental acts that the person feels driven to perform in response to an obsession, or according to rules that must be applied rigidly.
    2. The behaviors or mental acts are aimed at preventing or reducing distress or preventing some dreaded event or situation; however, these behaviors or mental acts are not actually connected to the issue, or they are excessive.

    In addition to these criteria, at some point during the course of the disorder, the individual must realize that his/her obsessions or compulsions are unreasonable or excessive. Moreover, the obsessions or compulsions must be time-consuming (taking up more than one hour per day), cause distress, or cause impairment in social, occupational, or school functioning.[

    Oh, that explains a lot about our lame duck's state of mind


  198. hussein toasterhead Says:

    LushInterior Says:

    Hummmm…..on what book will the Messiah place his hand at the swearing in?

    The BIBLE! Oh the horror.

    November 10th, 2008 at 12:03 am
    _________

    Or none of the above. It's not a required element of the inauguration.


  199. dhed317 Says:

    I joined the Navy in April of `01....that was unfortunate. Any way I was there the day
    "Chimpy McFlight" suit wore that get up on board the Lincoln. Like all the other sailors on the flight deck I was given the opportunity to shake his hand. He didn't use hand sanitizer but he did have an awful handshake, one of those weak ones like you would expect from a little kid. Could explain or foreign relations problems. It was pathetic and quite disillusioning for a young guy.


  200. dhed317 Says:

    By the way, I'm new to the forum and I don't really know but is
    Tim Vaculik a real person? Is he comic relief or is that guy serious? Geeze!


  201. hussein toasterhead Says:

    dhed317 Says:

    By the way, I’m new to the forum and I don’t really know but is
    Tim Vaculik a real person? Is he comic relief or is that guy serious? Geeze!
    November 10th, 2008 at 6:09 am

    _______

    Welcome! Glad to have you here, and thank you for your service!

    Yes, Tim is indeed a real, live, deluded moron - and yet he's also great comic relief. There are a few trolls like him haunting this place - they try to derail threads by spouting lies and Rovian talking points, but usually just make themselves look foolish. It's quite fun knocking them down to size, and we're all lobbying to make Trollwhacking a competitive sport in the 2012 Olympics.


  202. the Lone Voice of Reason Says:

    Lushie says: The Little Engine That Could! Choice of the agnostics

    Shows your utter stupidity. Agnostic does not equal Atheism. Just more twit twaddle spewing from your mouth again like always.


  203. OleHippieChick Says:

    So what does McDrinky think he's Howard Hughes now? Must he disgust us up until his very last moments? Does he wear tissue boxes on his feet too? K-reist, to see the last of him!


  204. barfly Says:

    freeman Says:

    Gee apparently the main reason for posting here is to act in ways that you could never get away with face to face , in real life , in civil society , for entertainment.

    As well as haranging those who don't agree with you.

    You've got that part down cold.

    You're no better than other posters, no more insightful, nor more accepting. You are what you rail against.


  205. DNFP Says:

    Trolls by definition never post before 7am eastern.

    I'm pointing this directly at you "freeman", concern troll.

    Wake up little baby, momma's got to change that diaper...


  206. upright left Says:

    _____
    spencers mom Says:

    The only advice I have for you, President Elect Obama, is try not to laugh. I know that’s what I’d have to keep reminding myself if I were about to engage in a lengthy meeting with Chimpy McFlightsuit.

    November 9th, 2008 at 6:39 pm
    ______

    I don’t think Obama will have the problem you envision.

    “So Democratic audiences are often surprised when I tell them that I don’t consider George Bush a bad man, and that I assume he and members of his Administration are trying to do what they think is best for the country.”

    “…I find the President and those who surround him to be pretty much like everybody else, possessed of the same mix of virtues and vice, insecurities and long-buried injuries, as the rest of us. No matter how wrong-headed I might consider their policies to be—and no matter how much I might insist that they be held accountable for the results of such policies—I still find it possible, in talking to these men and women, to understand their motives, and to recognize in them values I share. “

    Barack Obama



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