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		<title>By: stateofthedivision</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/11/10/obama-bush-popular/comment-page-2/#comment-5335488</link>
		<dc:creator>stateofthedivision</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 00:55:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rahm dodged George Stephanopolis&#039; question on tax increases for people making over $250,000 a year.  He did it not once, but twice Sunday&#039;s &lt;em&gt;This Week&lt;/em&gt;.

A Congressman just said on CNBC that tax increases for high wage earners would likely not come into play until 2010.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rahm dodged George Stephanopolis&#8217; question on tax increases for people making over $250,000 a year.  He did it not once, but twice Sunday&#8217;s <em>This Week</em>.</p>
<p>A Congressman just said on CNBC that tax increases for high wage earners would likely not come into play until 2010.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5335488', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Jackie</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/11/10/obama-bush-popular/comment-page-2/#comment-5335016</link>
		<dc:creator>Jackie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 20:11:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fred #39

Blogging is fun but facts don&#039;t change if you go to the Govenment Website for Bills passed or being reviewed now. As for my statement I posted the information came from the Govement Website which all people can view. I know some find it hard to believe but this happen. Bush knows how to fool Americans just as with the bailout. As Americans read headlines of the bailout, Paulson and Bernanke were busy handing out the money to the chosen few with no accountablity. Just as you missed the War Crimes Detainee Bill we all miss the bailout being robbed. Even AIG got another 40 billion dollars after wasting most of the money they have already been given.  So like President Obama ssid we have to pay more attention to what our Govenment is doing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fred #39</p>
<p>Blogging is fun but facts don&#8217;t change if you go to the Govenment Website for Bills passed or being reviewed now. As for my statement I posted the information came from the Govement Website which all people can view. I know some find it hard to believe but this happen. Bush knows how to fool Americans just as with the bailout. As Americans read headlines of the bailout, Paulson and Bernanke were busy handing out the money to the chosen few with no accountablity. Just as you missed the War Crimes Detainee Bill we all miss the bailout being robbed. Even AIG got another 40 billion dollars after wasting most of the money they have already been given.  So like President Obama ssid we have to pay more attention to what our Govenment is doing.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5335016', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: sacopenapa</title>
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		<dc:creator>sacopenapa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 19:17:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The head line should be &#039;The unelected president meets with the Elected President&#039;!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The head line should be &#8216;The unelected president meets with the Elected President&#8217;!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5334920', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: stateofthedivision</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/11/10/obama-bush-popular/comment-page-2/#comment-5334898</link>
		<dc:creator>stateofthedivision</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 19:06:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maureen&#039;s experience is but a variation of the saying:

&lt;em&gt;Absolute power corrupts absolutely.&lt;/em&gt;

Your vote is for that theory to not hold.  That&#039;s mine as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maureen&#8217;s experience is but a variation of the saying:</p>
<p><em>Absolute power corrupts absolutely.</em></p>
<p>Your vote is for that theory to not hold.  That&#8217;s mine as well.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5334898', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Bilbo Hussein Baggins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bilbo Hussein Baggins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 19:02:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I am hoping is that Obama doesn&#039;t make a deal with Bush.  I can see him telling Bush &quot;if you don&#039;t cause any more trouble before you leave office, I won&#039;t direct my Justice Department to charge you with any crimes&quot;.  

I hope he doesn&#039;t do that.  On the other hand, I&#039;m kind of glad, now, that Congress didn&#039;t push Karl Rove into perjuring himself so he can go to jail.  If they had, Bush just would have pardoned him.  This way we can go after the Bush Crime Family for all the crimes they have committed and there won&#039;t be anyone there to pardon them, meaning THEY WILL GO TO JAIL!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I am hoping is that Obama doesn&#8217;t make a deal with Bush.  I can see him telling Bush &#8220;if you don&#8217;t cause any more trouble before you leave office, I won&#8217;t direct my Justice Department to charge you with any crimes&#8221;.  </p>
<p>I hope he doesn&#8217;t do that.  On the other hand, I&#8217;m kind of glad, now, that Congress didn&#8217;t push Karl Rove into perjuring himself so he can go to jail.  If they had, Bush just would have pardoned him.  This way we can go after the Bush Crime Family for all the crimes they have committed and there won&#8217;t be anyone there to pardon them, meaning THEY WILL GO TO JAIL!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5334884', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: stateofthedivision</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/11/10/obama-bush-popular/comment-page-1/#comment-5334890</link>
		<dc:creator>stateofthedivision</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 19:02:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Liberal Traitor, some of the posters are confusing you with me.  I expressed concerns about Rahm and TP&#039;s reporting.  They&#039;re regurgitating some of my points, even those shared in jest.

Other websites dedicated a whole webpage with multiple stories on Obama&#039;s new Chief of Staff.  TP published one sentence? 

I quit sharing my concerns about &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/023863.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Rahm Rahm Rahm Rahm Rahm Iran &lt;/a&gt;on this progressive website.   

I do know leaders like Rahm drive in fear, which distorts any organization.  It causes lying and cheating to give the boss what they want.  It remains to be seen how Obama and Emanuel will mix.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Liberal Traitor, some of the posters are confusing you with me.  I expressed concerns about Rahm and TP&#8217;s reporting.  They&#8217;re regurgitating some of my points, even those shared in jest.</p>
<p>Other websites dedicated a whole webpage with multiple stories on Obama&#8217;s new Chief of Staff.  TP published one sentence? </p>
<p>I quit sharing my concerns about <a href="http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/023863.html" rel="nofollow">Rahm Rahm Rahm Rahm Rahm Iran </a>on this progressive website.   </p>
<p>I do know leaders like Rahm drive in fear, which distorts any organization.  It causes lying and cheating to give the boss what they want.  It remains to be seen how Obama and Emanuel will mix.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5334890', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Wayne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 18:55:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>liberal traitor Says: 

Actually I  have  concerns   also,  but  not  about Emmanuel  as  chief  of  staff.  As  Chief  of  Staff  he  will  have  to follow  Obama&#039;s  agenda,  not  Emanuel&#039;s. 

My  concern  was and  still  is the  flip-flop   Obama  did  on the  FISA/Telco Immunity  bill,  and  that  still  concerns  me.  My  hopes  are  that  the  Constitution  and  Bill  of  Rights  will  be   preserved  and  the  erosion  of  our  rights  will  be  reversed.

Despite  my  concerns  over  that,  I  donated  to  Obama,  supported  him  and  voted  for  him,  because  we  needed  to  get  the  Republicans  out.

I  will  be  watching  the  new  president  also, and  I  have  no  expectations  that  I  will  like  everything  he will  do,  just  as I  did  not  like  everything  Clinton  did.  But lets  let  him  get  sworn  in  before we  get  too  critical. He  is  not  the  President  yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>liberal traitor Says: </p>
<p>Actually I  have  concerns   also,  but  not  about Emmanuel  as  chief  of  staff.  As  Chief  of  Staff  he  will  have  to follow  Obama&#8217;s  agenda,  not  Emanuel&#8217;s. </p>
<p>My  concern  was and  still  is the  flip-flop   Obama  did  on the  FISA/Telco Immunity  bill,  and  that  still  concerns  me.  My  hopes  are  that  the  Constitution  and  Bill  of  Rights  will  be   preserved  and  the  erosion  of  our  rights  will  be  reversed.</p>
<p>Despite  my  concerns  over  that,  I  donated  to  Obama,  supported  him  and  voted  for  him,  because  we  needed  to  get  the  Republicans  out.</p>
<p>I  will  be  watching  the  new  president  also, and  I  have  no  expectations  that  I  will  like  everything  he will  do,  just  as I  did  not  like  everything  Clinton  did.  But lets  let  him  get  sworn  in  before we  get  too  critical. He  is  not  the  President  yet.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5334874', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Game of Life</title>
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		<dc:creator>Game of Life</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 18:29:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Dumb_Hussein_Fox Says:

The New York Times notes that the visit will be both &quot;historic&quot; and &quot;perhaps awkward,&quot; since Obama consistently criticized Bush on the campaign trail.

Are they saying it will be historic - and awkward - because Bush is finally meeting someone who criticized him?

Serious point this, someone getting inside the Bush bubble is pretty rare.&lt;/em&gt;

What bush bubble? mcchimpy dissed him worse and that&#039;s his buddy. 

I hope President-Elect Obama brings his own hand sanitizer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Dumb_Hussein_Fox Says:</p>
<p>The New York Times notes that the visit will be both &#8220;historic&#8221; and &#8220;perhaps awkward,&#8221; since Obama consistently criticized Bush on the campaign trail.</p>
<p>Are they saying it will be historic &#8211; and awkward &#8211; because Bush is finally meeting someone who criticized him?</p>
<p>Serious point this, someone getting inside the Bush bubble is pretty rare.</em></p>
<p>What bush bubble? mcchimpy dissed him worse and that&#8217;s his buddy. </p>
<p>I hope President-Elect Obama brings his own hand sanitizer.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5334822', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: gummitch</title>
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		<dc:creator>gummitch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 18:19:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;stateofthedivision Says:

Maureen Dowd talks about how personal demons are magnified inside the White House. People clearly know Bush’s demons and don’t like them. He turned the White House into a heavy handed CorporaWhorehouse. &lt;/em&gt;

If you start taking Maureen Dowd&#039;s commentary seriously, you need a cold shower and a stiff drink.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>stateofthedivision Says:</p>
<p>Maureen Dowd talks about how personal demons are magnified inside the White House. People clearly know Bush’s demons and don’t like them. He turned the White House into a heavy handed CorporaWhorehouse. </em></p>
<p>If you start taking Maureen Dowd&#8217;s commentary seriously, you need a cold shower and a stiff drink.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5334804', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: liberal traitor</title>
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		<dc:creator>liberal traitor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 18:17:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, glad this is all over.

Work through the system...is there any other way really?

This whole thing started just because I stated my displeasure with the Emmanuel pick.

It worries me, it does not mean I&#039;ve already given up on Obama&#039;s presidency.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, glad this is all over.</p>
<p>Work through the system&#8230;is there any other way really?</p>
<p>This whole thing started just because I stated my displeasure with the Emmanuel pick.</p>
<p>It worries me, it does not mean I&#8217;ve already given up on Obama&#8217;s presidency.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5334800', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: MCMetal</title>
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		<dc:creator>MCMetal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 18:16:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The brilliant Obamas , getting to meet the mindless in the Shrubs ; Barack and Michelle must be all tingly............</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The brilliant Obamas , getting to meet the mindless in the Shrubs ; Barack and Michelle must be all tingly&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5334796', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: liberal traitor</title>
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		<dc:creator>liberal traitor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 18:15:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>belac Says: 
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If we think the new Administration is making a mistake, isn’t it better to warn them ahead of time, rather than “wait and see?”

Certainly, but I think this level of concern is unwarranted and ridiculous… he appointed Emmanuel as chief-of-staff- he didn’t decide to invade another country illegally.
I believe one of those decisions demands intense scrutiny and examination and opposition, I think we can let the other slide for the moment with a ‘wait and see’ attitude.

&lt;strong&gt;I wasn’t comparing LT’s criticism to the invasion of Iraq-&lt;/strong&gt;

Oh really?

&lt;strong&gt;I was comparing LT’s preconceived notions about Emmanuel driving LT’s hysteria with little or no facts to base that hysteria on to the preconceived notions about Iraq driving that hysteria with little or no basis in fact…&lt;/strong&gt;

So, how are you not comparing my criticism...

Ugh, whatever, I give up.

I&#039;m not hysterical.  I&#039;m pi$$ed off rightly that a bunch of so-called fellow Progressives have attacked me today for questioning my President-elect&#039;s decisions.

I have plenty of reasons to dislike Emmanuel and to therefore questions Obama&#039;s decision to pick him.  Of course, those reasons have been ignored.


From Foreign Policy.com:
&lt;em&gt;The most infamous Rahmbo story of them all is the one that begins with the dinner the night after Bill Clinton was elected in 1992. Among those present at the dinner table was ABC News anchor George Stephanopoulos, who watched while an overwrought and clearly exhausted Emanuel began ranting at a long list of Clinton &quot;enemies.&quot; As he shouted each name, he stabbed the table with his steak knife: &quot;Nat Landow! Dead! Cliff Jackson! Dead!&quot; Apparently, others joined in. &lt;/em&gt;

Table stabbing with a knife.  Great...

That one is trivial, admittedly, so how about this:

1. He lobbied other Democrats to support the Surge
2. He lobbied other Democrats to back off on Cheney Impeachment support
3. He actively worked AGAINST anti-war Democrats in FAVOR of pro-war Democrats in the &#039;06 elections
4. Lips are FIRMLY planted on AIPAC&#039;s pucker
5. Was on Freddie Mac&#039;s board during book cooking...

Anyway...back to your regularly scheduled programming.

I still support Barack Obama, but I do not like the Emmanuel pick.</description>
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<p>If we think the new Administration is making a mistake, isn’t it better to warn them ahead of time, rather than “wait and see?”</p>
<p>Certainly, but I think this level of concern is unwarranted and ridiculous… he appointed Emmanuel as chief-of-staff- he didn’t decide to invade another country illegally.<br />
I believe one of those decisions demands intense scrutiny and examination and opposition, I think we can let the other slide for the moment with a ‘wait and see’ attitude.</p>
<p><strong>I wasn’t comparing LT’s criticism to the invasion of Iraq-</strong></p>
<p>Oh really?</p>
<p><strong>I was comparing LT’s preconceived notions about Emmanuel driving LT’s hysteria with little or no facts to base that hysteria on to the preconceived notions about Iraq driving that hysteria with little or no basis in fact…</strong></p>
<p>So, how are you not comparing my criticism&#8230;</p>
<p>Ugh, whatever, I give up.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not hysterical.  I&#8217;m pi$$ed off rightly that a bunch of so-called fellow Progressives have attacked me today for questioning my President-elect&#8217;s decisions.</p>
<p>I have plenty of reasons to dislike Emmanuel and to therefore questions Obama&#8217;s decision to pick him.  Of course, those reasons have been ignored.</p>
<p>From Foreign Policy.com:<br />
<em>The most infamous Rahmbo story of them all is the one that begins with the dinner the night after Bill Clinton was elected in 1992. Among those present at the dinner table was ABC News anchor George Stephanopoulos, who watched while an overwrought and clearly exhausted Emanuel began ranting at a long list of Clinton &#8220;enemies.&#8221; As he shouted each name, he stabbed the table with his steak knife: &#8220;Nat Landow! Dead! Cliff Jackson! Dead!&#8221; Apparently, others joined in. </em></p>
<p>Table stabbing with a knife.  Great&#8230;</p>
<p>That one is trivial, admittedly, so how about this:</p>
<p>1. He lobbied other Democrats to support the Surge<br />
2. He lobbied other Democrats to back off on Cheney Impeachment support<br />
3. He actively worked AGAINST anti-war Democrats in FAVOR of pro-war Democrats in the &#8216;06 elections<br />
4. Lips are FIRMLY planted on AIPAC&#8217;s pucker<br />
5. Was on Freddie Mac&#8217;s board during book cooking&#8230;</p>
<p>Anyway&#8230;back to your regularly scheduled programming.</p>
<p>I still support Barack Obama, but I do not like the Emmanuel pick.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5334794', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Fred</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 18:13:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>liberal traitor Says: 

I&#039;ve always respected your opinion as expressed in your posts here and I still do. 

I also understand what you want to do and agree that now that we have regained our footing that we should try to keep the boat on an even keel.

This is the perfect place for discussions like this.  

I also think there is still a lot of pent up emotion guiding many liberals actions these days.

We have to remain pragmatic and work within the system that we have.  We can also work to change that system if we deem it ineffective.....

You obviously have very strong feelings about Rahm&#039;s selection.  

We all know the things you mention.  This is not new to most of us.  However Obama has a challenge ahead of him and we selected him because we trust his judgement over all others that we could have picked from.

We will also have to allow him some mistakes, it seems inevitable that there will be some.

Personally, I&#039;m taking a longer view of events.  You or I cannot micromanage this new administration.

Let&#039;s see how he handles a few things before we throw in the towel.  

As with any leader, everyone is not going to like everything that they do, ever.....remember JFK&#039;s quote?

I personally like the selection of Rahm, it shows that Obama plans to take a firm hold on events that he can control.  Rahm is included in that catagory of what Obama must control.

Just my thoughts.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>liberal traitor Says: </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve always respected your opinion as expressed in your posts here and I still do. </p>
<p>I also understand what you want to do and agree that now that we have regained our footing that we should try to keep the boat on an even keel.</p>
<p>This is the perfect place for discussions like this.  </p>
<p>I also think there is still a lot of pent up emotion guiding many liberals actions these days.</p>
<p>We have to remain pragmatic and work within the system that we have.  We can also work to change that system if we deem it ineffective&#8230;..</p>
<p>You obviously have very strong feelings about Rahm&#8217;s selection.  </p>
<p>We all know the things you mention.  This is not new to most of us.  However Obama has a challenge ahead of him and we selected him because we trust his judgement over all others that we could have picked from.</p>
<p>We will also have to allow him some mistakes, it seems inevitable that there will be some.</p>
<p>Personally, I&#8217;m taking a longer view of events.  You or I cannot micromanage this new administration.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s see how he handles a few things before we throw in the towel.  </p>
<p>As with any leader, everyone is not going to like everything that they do, ever&#8230;..remember JFK&#8217;s quote?</p>
<p>I personally like the selection of Rahm, it shows that Obama plans to take a firm hold on events that he can control.  Rahm is included in that catagory of what Obama must control.</p>
<p>Just my thoughts.</p>
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		<title>By: hussein toasterhead</title>
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		<dc:creator>hussein toasterhead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 18:12:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;belac Says: 

I wasn’t comparing LT’s criticism to the invasion of Iraq- I was comparing LT’s preconceived notions about Emmanuel driving LT’s hysteria with little or no facts to base that hysteria on to the preconceived notions about Iraq driving that hysteria with little or no basis in fact…

November 10th, 2008 at 1:00 pm &lt;/i&gt;
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Fair enough, but I don&#039;t think the concerns about Rahm Emmanuel are all that farfetched.  There has been a bit of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.democracynow.org/2008/11/6/president_elect_obama_and_the_future&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;concern raised among Middle Eastern scholars and peace activists over the selection of one of the most pro-Israel members of Congress&lt;/a&gt; as Chief of Staff.  That&#039;s legitimate.  There&#039;s also concern that Emanuel&#039;s connections to the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.democracynow.org/2008/11/7/can_grassroots_movement_that_propelled_obama&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;hedge fund and securities industry&lt;/a&gt; may influence who he allows to have access to the new President.

That having been said, I&#039;m also optimistic - the plain fact is that Emanuel will work for Obama, not the other way around.  This President will set the policy, and if his aim is to surround himself with people who don&#039;t necessarily agree with him on every issue, I salute the decision.  We&#039;ve had too much administration by Yes-men.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>belac Says: </p>
<p>I wasn’t comparing LT’s criticism to the invasion of Iraq- I was comparing LT’s preconceived notions about Emmanuel driving LT’s hysteria with little or no facts to base that hysteria on to the preconceived notions about Iraq driving that hysteria with little or no basis in fact…</p>
<p>November 10th, 2008 at 1:00 pm </i><br />
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<p>Fair enough, but I don&#8217;t think the concerns about Rahm Emmanuel are all that farfetched.  There has been a bit of <a href="http://www.democracynow.org/2008/11/6/president_elect_obama_and_the_future" rel="nofollow">concern raised among Middle Eastern scholars and peace activists over the selection of one of the most pro-Israel members of Congress</a> as Chief of Staff.  That&#8217;s legitimate.  There&#8217;s also concern that Emanuel&#8217;s connections to the <a href="http://www.democracynow.org/2008/11/7/can_grassroots_movement_that_propelled_obama" rel="nofollow">hedge fund and securities industry</a> may influence who he allows to have access to the new President.</p>
<p>That having been said, I&#8217;m also optimistic &#8211; the plain fact is that Emanuel will work for Obama, not the other way around.  This President will set the policy, and if his aim is to surround himself with people who don&#8217;t necessarily agree with him on every issue, I salute the decision.  We&#8217;ve had too much administration by Yes-men.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5334780', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: belac</title>
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		<dc:creator>belac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 18:07:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;LiberalVoter Says: &lt;/em&gt;

I wholeheartedly agree... peace!

and I apologize to you Liberal Traitor, I never meant to imply that you were contemplating the invasion of a sovereign nation, you&#039;re welcome in the party as far as I&#039;m concerned-- just please stop telling me not to dance.</description>
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<p>I wholeheartedly agree&#8230; peace!</p>
<p>and I apologize to you Liberal Traitor, I never meant to imply that you were contemplating the invasion of a sovereign nation, you&#8217;re welcome in the party as far as I&#8217;m concerned&#8211; just please stop telling me not to dance.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5334764', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Max-1</title>
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		<dc:creator>Max-1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 18:07:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>.

For some, the honeymoon is not over. Telling these people that there is laundry to have to face, clean and air is not welcome. 

For others, the hangover is killing them and need fresh air and a cold shower.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>.</p>
<p>For some, the honeymoon is not over. Telling these people that there is laundry to have to face, clean and air is not welcome. </p>
<p>For others, the hangover is killing them and need fresh air and a cold shower.</p>
<p>.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5334762', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Fred</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 18:04:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jackie Says: 

You have been debunked for this misinformation on another thread.  The bill you mentioned does no such thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jackie Says: </p>
<p>You have been debunked for this misinformation on another thread.  The bill you mentioned does no such thing.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5334746', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: LiberalVoter</title>
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		<dc:creator>LiberalVoter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 18:04:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Folks, time to take a breath. I believe we all have the same goals but are still wound up around the election. The RedState types are eating their own, let&#039;s not follow their lead. It has been proven to be the wrong path.

PAX</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Folks, time to take a breath. I believe we all have the same goals but are still wound up around the election. The RedState types are eating their own, let&#8217;s not follow their lead. It has been proven to be the wrong path.</p>
<p>PAX<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5334750', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: liberal traitor</title>
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		<dc:creator>liberal traitor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 18:02:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fred, my response to you in two parts:

I am not, as you call it, &quot;horrified&quot; by anything Obama has done thus far (other than his vote for the FISA bill.  That was horrifying.  I still voted for the man).

I am worried, and I will not be quiet when he does something I don&#039;t like.

Rahm Emmanuel is a bad CoS choice for many reasons.  The only good reason to pick him is he is aggressive and placates the Blue Dogs in the Democratic party...and the Israel Whores...and the Corporate Whores...see where I&#039;m going with this?

Obama already went back on his supposed support for decriminalization of marijuana.

He removed his support of Net Neutrality from his web page...then when he was criticized for it BY HIS SUPPORTERS it was put back up on change.gov.  Hooray!  Questioning your leaders works!

The all caps statements were written in anger.  Because so far today I have been called names, told to leave the party I have always belonged to, and told to keep quiet, and been compared to the preemptive invasion of Iraq for simply questioning a few things about Obama.

And my statement about &quot;Obama is better than Bush, doesn&#039;t say much&quot; was clarified later.  I understand it warranted clarification.

I was saying Obama would not have to do anything at all in 8 years and he&#039;d still be better than Bush.  My focus is on &lt;em&gt;how much better&lt;/em&gt; he can be.  He can be a GREAT President, and criticism, debate, questioning, and pressure from his supporters will help make that happen.

I was just as patient, just as much against my will, as any of you these last 8 years.

No, Obama will not treat Congress like a whipped dog or declare martial law to get his way.  I am glad of that.

No, Obama would torture or destroy our economy like Bush did.  I am glad of that.

He won’t be ignighting the flames of hate and bigotry as palen and mccain did via his actions.  Just by being who he is he inflames the bigotry of the already bigoted.  This is not his fault of course.  This is one thing we all should be vigilant against.  I am extremely happy that America finally elected a non-white President.  It&#039;s about damn time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fred, my response to you in two parts:</p>
<p>I am not, as you call it, &#8220;horrified&#8221; by anything Obama has done thus far (other than his vote for the FISA bill.  That was horrifying.  I still voted for the man).</p>
<p>I am worried, and I will not be quiet when he does something I don&#8217;t like.</p>
<p>Rahm Emmanuel is a bad CoS choice for many reasons.  The only good reason to pick him is he is aggressive and placates the Blue Dogs in the Democratic party&#8230;and the Israel Whores&#8230;and the Corporate Whores&#8230;see where I&#8217;m going with this?</p>
<p>Obama already went back on his supposed support for decriminalization of marijuana.</p>
<p>He removed his support of Net Neutrality from his web page&#8230;then when he was criticized for it BY HIS SUPPORTERS it was put back up on change.gov.  Hooray!  Questioning your leaders works!</p>
<p>The all caps statements were written in anger.  Because so far today I have been called names, told to leave the party I have always belonged to, and told to keep quiet, and been compared to the preemptive invasion of Iraq for simply questioning a few things about Obama.</p>
<p>And my statement about &#8220;Obama is better than Bush, doesn&#8217;t say much&#8221; was clarified later.  I understand it warranted clarification.</p>
<p>I was saying Obama would not have to do anything at all in 8 years and he&#8217;d still be better than Bush.  My focus is on <em>how much better</em> he can be.  He can be a GREAT President, and criticism, debate, questioning, and pressure from his supporters will help make that happen.</p>
<p>I was just as patient, just as much against my will, as any of you these last 8 years.</p>
<p>No, Obama will not treat Congress like a whipped dog or declare martial law to get his way.  I am glad of that.</p>
<p>No, Obama would torture or destroy our economy like Bush did.  I am glad of that.</p>
<p>He won’t be ignighting the flames of hate and bigotry as palen and mccain did via his actions.  Just by being who he is he inflames the bigotry of the already bigoted.  This is not his fault of course.  This is one thing we all should be vigilant against.  I am extremely happy that America finally elected a non-white President.  It&#8217;s about damn time.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5334744', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: belac</title>
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		<dc:creator>belac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 18:00:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;If we think the new Administration is making a mistake, isn’t it better to warn them ahead of time, rather than “wait and see?”&lt;/em&gt;

Certainly, but I think this level of concern is unwarranted and ridiculous... he appointed Emmanuel as chief-of-staff- he didn&#039;t decide to invade another country illegally.
I believe one of those decisions demands intense scrutiny and examination and opposition, I think we can let the other slide for the moment with a &#039;wait and see&#039; attitude.

I wasn&#039;t comparing LT&#039;s criticism to the invasion of Iraq- I was comparing LT&#039;s preconceived notions about Emmanuel driving LT&#039;s hysteria with little or no facts to base that hysteria on to the preconceived notions about Iraq driving that hysteria with little or no basis in fact...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>If we think the new Administration is making a mistake, isn’t it better to warn them ahead of time, rather than “wait and see?”</em></p>
<p>Certainly, but I think this level of concern is unwarranted and ridiculous&#8230; he appointed Emmanuel as chief-of-staff- he didn&#8217;t decide to invade another country illegally.<br />
I believe one of those decisions demands intense scrutiny and examination and opposition, I think we can let the other slide for the moment with a &#8216;wait and see&#8217; attitude.</p>
<p>I wasn&#8217;t comparing LT&#8217;s criticism to the invasion of Iraq- I was comparing LT&#8217;s preconceived notions about Emmanuel driving LT&#8217;s hysteria with little or no facts to base that hysteria on to the preconceived notions about Iraq driving that hysteria with little or no basis in fact&#8230;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5334740', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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