Comments on: Hitting Back At Obama Team, Perino Insists Bush Did Not Ban Stem Cell Research

By: upnorth

upnorth — Tue, 11 Nov 2008 12:52:59 +0000

Ms. Perino. Some people will sell their soul, morals, ethics and religious beliefs to make a buck and gain power.

You M’am are the poster child for those fundamentally unintellectual people.

How does it feel to get paid to bullshit the public and your fellow Americans everyday!

There is a special place in hell, right beside bush and cheney, for folks like you! Good luck with your eternity!

By: the Lone Voice of Reason

the Lone Voice of Reason — Tue, 11 Nov 2008 11:59:16 +0000

Why are they not promoting the fact that you can get stem cells from umbilical cords? I am certain that is true. I know, I know, LINK, I’m working on it.

We passed Proposal 2 here in Michigan-that was stem cell research and I am all for it.

By: the Lone Voice of Reason

the Lone Voice of Reason — Tue, 11 Nov 2008 11:54:07 +0000

“The President made a very important choice after a lot of careful deliberation”

Yeah, right. That would be a first.

By: beowolf

beowolf — Tue, 11 Nov 2008 09:08:22 +0000

I’m sure this defense will work in any court in America. I didn’t starve my children.
They each got a half a slice of toast a day.

By: Jess Wonderin

Jess Wonderin — Tue, 11 Nov 2008 03:35:01 +0000

Gonna miss the Bush headling rush into the Middle Ages . . .

By: marlow

marlow — Tue, 11 Nov 2008 02:05:27 +0000

Christ, I’m not gonna miss that little twit. It’ll be good to have a president who actually embraces knowledge rather than trying to bury it. George, you were born eight hundred years too late.

By: shoeless

shoeless — Mon, 10 Nov 2008 21:56:03 +0000

Walt,
That is what separates us from the wingnuts. We like to learn stuff.

By: WaltTheMan

WaltTheMan — Mon, 10 Nov 2008 21:53:31 +0000

shoeless,
I actually had it right in my post. Stem cells are derived from the cell mass in the blastocyst. I still learned something about the stage between the fertilized egg and the blastocyst.
At the blastocyst stage of development, the potential human is equivalent to a colony of cells in an ancient body of water containing disolved amino acids.

By: WaltTheMan

WaltTheMan — Mon, 10 Nov 2008 21:25:19 +0000

shoeless,
Thanks, I learned something today.

By: xenon

xenon — Mon, 10 Nov 2008 21:11:18 +0000

“Perhaps if Bush got his ideas from scientists rather than science-fiction novels…”

…or the religious right for that matter.

By: draftedin68

draftedin68 — Mon, 10 Nov 2008 20:57:24 +0000

Say What??

I watched this briefing this morning and it’s worth noting that (beginning at 1:10 in the clip) Perino shocked me (if not the scientific world) by announcing that there has been embryonic stem cell research that doesn’t destroy embryos.

I must have missed the news of this Nobel-worthy breakthrough.

Either that, or, like so often, Perino is pulling facts from the far end of her digestive system.

By: shoeless

shoeless — Mon, 10 Nov 2008 20:44:09 +0000

Actually, they are called blastomeres. A blastocyst is a blastomere which has become attached to the wall of the uterus.

Too bad the religious wingnuts were able to popularize the inaccurate term “embryonic” stem cell research, even amongst doctors who should know better. A lot fewer people would be against blastomere research.

By: WaltTheMan

WaltTheMan — Mon, 10 Nov 2008 20:36:45 +0000

ictb,
You are correct about the contaminated lines. All of these lines were derived from human blastocysts. Most of the uncontaminated lines have developed genetic abnormalities over time that place their value for research in doubt.

By: Bozo The Neoclown

Bozo The Neoclown — Mon, 10 Nov 2008 20:36:38 +0000

Technically, dumbya didn’t ban stem cell research, he just refused to fund it.

By: Leftside Annie

Leftside Annie — Mon, 10 Nov 2008 20:25:01 +0000

And we’re supposed to believe Bimbo Purina …why?

By: shoeless

shoeless — Mon, 10 Nov 2008 20:13:29 +0000

Sorry, I meant a distinction without a difference.

By: impeachcheneythenbush

impeachcheneythenbush — Mon, 10 Nov 2008 19:56:38 +0000

First of all, even those “21 cell lines” were actually only 11. The rest were all contaminated, by mouse DNA I think. Secondly, by refusing to allow federal funding for this research, they also discouraged or prevented ethical guidelines for development of the science to be enacted. And thirdly, of course, they preferred viable embryos to be washed down the drain in fertility clinics, rather than utilized to help this and future generations of people. Typical of their definition of “Sanctity of life” and “compassionate conservative.”

By: Buckie Boy

Buckie Boy — Mon, 10 Nov 2008 19:32:29 +0000

It’s all in the “Wording” with Bush, it’s not “Torture” it’s “Enhanced Interrogation”.

Can’t Bush and Cheney just leave and let the adults take over?

By: CheeseFlap

CheeseFlap — Mon, 10 Nov 2008 19:27:56 +0000

The amoeba swims
Around aimlessly unless
Deliberating

By: tom

tom — Mon, 10 Nov 2008 19:23:40 +0000

Once stem-cell research is reinstituted, certain precautions should be taken to avoid use of fertilized eggs from Bimborino, anyone with the last name of Bush or Cheney, Failin’ Palin or Bimbo Bachmann.