Reich-wingers also say that about Emanuel. More proof that extremists on both ends should be purged and ignored.

You are simply delusional, Dr. Insane Floor Mat. (Cue “Why don’t you play in traffic”). I would suggest you study a bit more before you open your virtual mouth because you appear more and more as a fool.

Alejandro is correct. Emanuel (Ezekiel) is a dangerous Neocon, and being a Neocon does not have political affiliation.

This has nothing to do with being Right or Left Wing. It is the difference between being We The People against the Corporations. Obama’s votes and his appointments are looking more like he is a corporatist. In six months he may surprise me, and help out the common folk, so we will have to wait and see.

Meanwhile, free-minded independents will observe his every move carefully, and believe me, Right Wingers absolutely want Obama to fail. Indies on the other hand, are skeptical, and frankly, you need people that are not in a drunken stupor as Dr Foot-In-Mouth is. If Obama does surprise indies, then we will admit we were wrong.

Will Leftists admit they are wrong if Obama continues Perpetual War, increases surveillance, and bails out more banks? Or will they say to ignore that Giant Neocon Gorilla in the room, and keep saying he is Progressive?

The history of our addiction to oil is a chronicle of violence, corruption and the worst excesses of frontier capitalism and social Darwinism. It was the case when the Nobel and Rothschild families grappled for control of Caspian Sea oil in the late nineteenth century; it is just as true now in the Gulf of Guinea. Like crack, tobacco or any other addiction enabled by a vast, powerful industry (Is it surprising that Big Tobacco financially supported global warming skeptics for years?), our oil addiction is hugely destructive, defies logic and is nearly impossible to break. But unlike crack and tobacco, we will eventually run out of oil.

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53. uhhhbama Says:

1 or 2 items!

Biden booed at EAGLES Game

The Giants and Eagles played in front of a special guest. Vice President-elect Joe Biden watched the game in a luxury suite with Eagles owner Jeffrey Lurie. Biden was booed when he was showed on the video screen.

See, here’s another example of correlation is not the same thing as causation. Biden’s image going up on the screen correlated with boos but it did not cause the boos. The boos came because of a bad referee call.

http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2008/11/10/eagles-fans-booed-refs-not-joe-biden/

The Drudge Report and a number of political blogs have picked up on the story of Biden getting booed by Philly fans, but there’s just one problem: The fans were booing the officials, not Biden.

Biden was shown both on NBC and on the big screens at Lincoln Financial Field immediately after Giants quarterback Eli Manning had spiked the ball to avoid a sack. Manning should have been called for intentional grounding, but for some reason the referee didn’t throw the flag. So the fans started booing the ref.

Maybe Biden would have been booed if he had been shown during a lull in the action, or maybe he would have been cheered. But it’s doubtful that many Eagles fans cared much who was on the big screen at the time of the booing that the Associated Press describes. When the home team just got screwed by a bad call, football fans aren’t thinking about expressing their political views.

We don’t have the luxury of “time.”

The whole system is collapsing.

Bush should step aside, now, and let the Obamistos take over NOW…The Busheviks/GOPukes won’t forego partisanship for the benefit of the country, if by doing so they validate the Dims’ projects. The GOPukes will let the country implode if it benefits them politically…

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/11/10/obama-hires-progressive-l_n_142648.html

He’s not.

Remember when he visited the Rightard Xian guru, and promised MORE state cooperation with faith-based groups? Back in July, he promised MORE intervention.

Excellent point. Barack isn’t even going to take office until January 20, 2009, over two months from now. Let’s wait to see what he does once he’s in office. When I supported and voted for him, I was well aware that he was not nearly as far to the left as I am. Truth be told, neither is most of the country. But my hope is that a Progressive agenda will begin turning this big ship at sea around and pointing in the right direction for all of us, and for the rest of the citizens of the world. It’s going to take some time and patience is, as is said, a virtue. In the meantime, I’ve adopted the attitude, “trust…but verify.”

no?

still?

maybe if someone else asks for that link…

OT.Sorry..Do you all remember NESTLES make’s the very best, chocolate jingle…Well maybe chocolate but not strawberry…Recieved a recall this morning that nesquik strawberry powder 20.8oz.. Nov 7 date has an interesting addative..FRAGMENT’S OF ALUMINUM……Be careful what you eat and drink…Keep your kid’s safe…..P,B,&J

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This is exactly the kind of thing I was talking about earlier when I talked about the problem of Democrats acting like Democrats. You seem to be confusing LT with a concern troll. Liberal traitor is absolutely right, though – we should not be marching in lockstep with our new leader just because we feel obligated to.

The mandate the new President has received is not a blank check – it’s a contract. We expect to see some of the change we were promised in exchange for our vote. We’re also pragmatists, we know that there will be obstacles and compromises and that this new President is not going to be the progressive of our wildest dreams. But we still reserve the right to comment and criticize when necessary, without being told to “get out of the party.”

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liberal traitor, nice hissy fit. Seriously, I’m laughing my arse off at you. Thanks for the chuckle. Liberals like you are the reason why the term “liberal” is now a pejorative. So, kindly, go f**k off, you pathetic pansy arse wimp. The Democratic Party will be better off WITHOUT you….seriously. Please leave the Party, your type will never be wanted or needed.

Have fun being an ass-kissing fascist then, d0uche-bag.

You just proved what I said about you sounding like the right-wingers who are bleating about those who DARED to call Palin unqualified. They are now “dead” to the party. They are being told to GET OUT. Sounds a lot like what Republicans were saying to Democrats after Bush won, doesn’t it?

Seriously, you are attacking me because I’m not marching in lockstep with EVERYTHING our new President is doing.

Believe me, I am happy Obama won. Believe me, I see the political strategy in picking Emmanuel as CoS.

Believe me when I say, I understand all of this.

However, also believe me when I say that I seem to remember a lot of us talking about how we were going to be different than Republicans under Bush who marched in lockstep with him, who never called him out on anything, who never put any pressure on him or spoke up when they saw something they didn’t like.

You seem to have missed the point and went straight for the declarations of exclusion and the demands for me to shut up, just like your typical neocon pundit. As I said, I hope you’re proud of yourself.

The point you missed was this:

I STILL support Obama, I voted for the man, I hope he does well, I’m not calling for him to be dumped like that infowars article someone posted here.

BUT THAT DOESN’T MEAN I HAVE TO ACCEPT WITH BLIND ALLEGIANCE TO “THE PARTY” EVERYTHING HE DECIDES TO DO.

THIS IS AMERICA. I AM ALLOWED TO QUESTION IT. If you don’t like the way America works, if you don’t like the way the Democratic party is SUPPOSED to work, then maybe YOU can get out and it’ll be better off without YOU!

I disagree. US Representative Jan Schakowsky (IL-9) would be the best pick to replace President-elect Obama in the Senate. Jarrett’s resume is best suited for Secretary of Housing and Urban Development.

between beatch and an alyst… finally got it!

Mona Charen

Racial Psychodrama

http://news.yahoo.com/s/uc/20081107/cm_uc_crmchx/op_58006

( About The Author:
Political an alyst Mona Charen is former White House staffer who served as Nancy Reagan’s speechwriter. Her syndicated column, launched in 1987, is featured in more than 200 newspapers.)

my daily is, unfortunately, one of them…

just one of her lines:

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Early in his career, he was listed as a member of the socialist New Party? New Zealand papers picked up on it. Didn’t make it into our major media.
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why do you s’pose that is, mona?

Interestingly, the newspaper on Saturday (I’m sure from one of the wire services) reported that AIG paid back some of the first bailout loan – from memory it was something like paid back 2 billion of the 80 billion.

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Dr. Hussein Matt Says:
Liberal whine and rant that Emanuel is too conservative and reich-wingers whine and rant that Emanuel is too liberal. More proof that extremists on both ends should be ignored.

I know what you mean. I’m getting really sick and tired of people on this site not having the courtesy to allow Obama to make his decisions for himself. If he makes a mistake and you don’t like it, then speak up. But, I mean a mistake, not just hiring someone you think is a mistake. Truth be told, when I heard how the right freaked out over the appointment of Emanuel, I thought “all right”.

I think both of you can take your condescension, your derision, and your ‘holier-than-thou’ advice for us ‘FAR LEFT LIBERAL WIMPS’ (thanks for that, Dr. Hussein Matt, you sound just like Coulter, Limbaugh, et al now. I hope you’re proud of yourself) and shove it up your a$$e$.

I voted for Obama. I am an American citizen. I demand and retain the right to question EVERY decision my President makes, no matter who he is, no matter his party.

I voted for Obama, but within three days of his election he picked an Israel hawk who has a record of attacking anti-war Democrats and was on the board of Freddie Mac when they cooked their books as his chief of staff. Doesn’t sound like the Change I believe in, Barack. He went back on his support of decriminalization of marijuana. Doesn’t sound like the change I believe in, Barack. I could go on.

Do I still support him? Sure. He’s better than McSame would have been.

All in all, this entire post boils down to me attempting to say how disappointed I am in my fellow posters here, but I’m not going to phrase it that way because then I would be just as patronizing as you stupid Fu(ks are being right now.

DON’T TELL ME I CAN’T QUESTION THE POLICY DECISIONS OF THE PRESIDENT I VOTED FOR. YOU ARE NOT FASCISTS, DON’T ACT LIKE IT.

They’re going to need them.

LOL. Yuu understand that he’s not actually the President until January 20, 2009, right?

But then you could say that about anything he supposedly said, since the books were all written anonymously by authors who lived after he had died. Except that most people do not look at it this way. Do you remember I-RIGHT-I? He loved Jesus. It didn’t matter that your interpretation of Jesus is not literal and his was, it matter that he used the bible as a literal interpretation and then used that to hate everyone who wasn’t like him. It’s all about perception.

So it’s perfectly legitimate to follow the nice, kind, and loving things we believe Jesus said, and ignore the nasty and divisive things he’s reported to have said. The concepts of loving thy neighbor, blessing the peacemakers, and caring for the least among us, are still admirable ones, no matter what else the man may or may not have said.

I wish all Christians did. Then I, and those like me, would have no issue with it. Unfortunately, you know that that is not the case and that as long as the terrible stuff stays in the book(s), it will be used to oppress other people, to wage wars, to treat others terribly as the right-wing of your religion does.

And as long as it is used in ths capacity, I will continue to make my argument. Those of you who ignore the terrible stuff should do the same – after all, as long as you all lump yourselves together and defend them, they will continue to make the rest of you who are liberal Christians look bad.

It worked for Europe and Canada. They have equal rights for women, gays and blacks – and they have health care.

Can we talk about health care now. If the liberals here who are upset about Rahm Emanuel would focus on teh health care issue, it would be a better use of all of our time.