Ingraham Rails Against Schwarzenegger, Tells California: ‘Just Secede Already’
Ingraham Rails Against Schwarzenegger, Tells California: ‘Just Secede Already’
Sunday on CNN Late Edition, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger (R-CA) encouraged his party to “not to get stuck in ideology, in the ideological corners” and instead offer broader solutions to America’s most pressing problems, especially climate change and the health care crisis. “Let’s clean our ocean, let’s clean our water, let’s clean our air, let’s create health care reform, let’s pass the budget, let’s fix the budget deficit and the structural deficit.”
The comments infuriated right-wing radio host Laura Ingraham, who railed against Schwarzenegger yesterday. She said she had “never, never, ever gotten the whole Schwarzenegger thing,” finally declaring California should “secede” from the United States:
INGRAHAM: Arnold Schwarzenegger is embarrassing on so many levels. … Every time we look to moderate to liberal Republicans for answers, we’re disappointed. Not only are we disappointed, we end up getting shafted. [...]
I read this and my blood boils. Left coast? I mean, just secede already, at this point. Okay. Secede already. I can’t take it anymore from California.
Listen here:
The fact that Schwarzenegger also repeated his opposition to the anti-gay amendment, Proposition 8, certainly did him no favors with Ingraham either. In fact, he said the law “falls into the same category” of anti-miscegenation laws from the early 20th century that banned blacks and whites from marrying.
The Schwarzenegger-Ingraham debate reflects the larger struggle within the Republican party. While National Republican Senatorial Committee Chairman John Ensign (R-NV) said last week that the party shouldn’t focus on abortion or anti-gay marriage amendments, Rep. Mike Pence (R-IN) insisted the party should double down on the issues, focusing on “a belief in the sanctity of life and the sanctity of marriage.”
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Laura’s not too crazy about the whole democracy thing. Why isn’t she moving in with Putin?
November 11th, 2008 at 12:47 pmExit Strategy, Iraq, for you Laura? (I love Real Time)
November 11th, 2008 at 12:48 pmLaura is a bigot…who would have known.
And maybe Laura and the repukes like her should Secede already…if you don’t like America, then move somewhere else, BIGOT.
Wow, that felt good, if you don’t like America then move…hehe.
November 11th, 2008 at 12:51 pmMove to Alaska bi tch…
November 11th, 2008 at 12:52 pmAre there reasonable Republican voices in the media nowadays? It seems to get on the radio/TV/Internet you need to totally froth at the mouth: Ingraham, O’Reilly, Limbaugh, Drudge, Schlesinger, Prager, &c.–They’re all loons. The most reasonable conservative voices I’ve heard on the radio are Howard Stern (!) and the more-Libertarian-than-not Adam Carolla.
I know there’s some middle-of-the-road folks–not everyone is Bill Kristol, but where are they? Am I stuck reading Friedman? Why is a reasoned conservative voice so hard to find?
November 11th, 2008 at 12:53 pmShe can’t take it any more!
Music to my ears!
No one could have predicted this much WHINING and KVETCHING from neocons! We were always told how strong, how manly, how stiff their upper lips were in times of crisis!
ha ha
I love it!
November 11th, 2008 at 12:54 pmI thought the only secessionists were in Alaska these days. Have Sarah and Todd Palin opened up a new office of the Alaska Independence Party in California?
November 11th, 2008 at 12:54 pmCaption: Have you seen the size of Ann Coulter’s cock?
November 11th, 2008 at 12:55 pmAh yes, a photo of Witch Ingraham in the middle of casting an evil spell.
November 11th, 2008 at 12:55 pmjeblucas wrote:
Why is a reasoned conservative voice so hard to find?
Ironic, ain’t it?
If there were one, they’d have put up a much stronger fight against Obama.
If there were one running (or talking on the tee vee and radio), I might listen, and I might even vote for them.
November 11th, 2008 at 12:56 pmWhat a vile woman.
November 11th, 2008 at 12:58 pmI know there’s some middle-of-the-road folks–not everyone is Bill Kristol, but where are they? Am I stuck reading Friedman? Why is a reasoned conservative voice so hard to find?
I listen occasionally to a guy named Jimbo Bohannan. He’s a conservative, but pretty moderate (at least most of the time).
November 11th, 2008 at 12:58 pmThe Republicans have a real problem on their hands with the likes of Ingraham, Rush, and Billo. The spittle-flecked hatred spewed by these freaks has started to hurt the GOP more than help it, but reigning them in won’t be easy.
November 11th, 2008 at 12:59 pmMy God, I don’t know who’s more ‘manly’, Coulter or this gasbag.
She’s got a voice like fingernails on a blackboard, her face is as long as a horse, and her politics are nuclear neoconistic.
I think Coulter & Ingraham should get married in California.
November 11th, 2008 at 1:02 pmINGRAHAM: “Every time we look to moderate to liberal Republicans for answers, we’re disappointed…”
LOL
Viable answers are rarely what those at the extreme ends of the teeter-totter want to hear.
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November 11th, 2008 at 1:03 pm“And so there I was, see, trapped in my ideological corner, when from up in the sky came a snowflake!
“It’s a sign from Gawd,” I cried, “Palin 2012!”
bitter repuglicans always bring a smile to my face, and ever since last Tuesday, I’ve seen a lot of bitter repuglicans.
November 11th, 2008 at 1:04 pmThe “New Witches of Eastwick,” Ingraham, Palin and Coulter, what a tiresome threesome.
November 11th, 2008 at 1:07 pmINGRAHAM: “Every time we look to moderate to liberal Republicans for answers, we’re disappointed…”
Who are these “moderate to liberal Republicans” the wingnuts have been looking to for answers?
November 11th, 2008 at 1:08 pmIs it my imagination, or does most female right-wing commentator look like the “Aryan ideal?” Nearly all have blonde hair (or hair that is dyed blonde). Par for the course I suppose, but still, it is one of the oddest examples of homogenization I have ever seen. Then again, it strikes me that many Republicans cannot see past stereotypes anyways, so why not play up the whole “all-American” bullshit angle.
November 11th, 2008 at 1:09 pmit’s only been a week since the election. obama is not even in the white house yet.
and republicans are climbing over one another to scratch each other’s eyes out.
fabulous.
November 11th, 2008 at 1:10 pmINGRAHAM: I read this and my blood boils. Left coast? I mean, just secede already, at this point. Okay. Secede already. I can’t take it anymore from California.
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Just from a practicality standpoint, wouldn’t it make more sense to keep California and get rid of Ingraham? Perhaps there’s a nice remote island out in the middle of the Pacific Ocean somewhere where she won’t be bothered by the voices of progressives who want to improve things.
November 11th, 2008 at 1:10 pmRepubs only know one tactic. . . attack, attack, attack. The rational doesn’t have to make sense, they are simply in love with being mean and discounting everyone who doesn’t share their views.
November 11th, 2008 at 1:12 pmI have often thought that California should secede from the US, but not for the same reason as Ingraham does.
California has the sixth largest economy in the world. California is a fairly progressive state in most respects, the outcome of Prop 8 notwithstanding.
Another reason that Ingraham probably wants California to secede is because it is usually reliably blue and friendly to national Democrats. It also has a huge number of electoral votes. Without California, it becomes a bit harder for a Democrat to win the presidency – ergo Ingraham’s beef with CA.
November 11th, 2008 at 1:13 pmmisshusseinmolly Says:
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…wouldn’t it make more sense to keep California and get rid of Ingraham? Perhaps there’s a nice remote island out in the middle of the Pacific Ocean somewhere
I know the perfect spot. It’s called Little Diomedes Island, and it’s in the Bering Straight, so she really will be able to see Russia from her house.
November 11th, 2008 at 1:14 pmLaura must be so heart broken. Hate and fear mongering took a sound beating last Tuesday.
November 11th, 2008 at 1:15 pmAhnold is, of course, right on the money. As for California, they are much loved. I go to SF every year for business. Awesome people and place.
If any states should seced, start with that huge area in teh middle of the country who voted to continue the failed neocon agenda.
San Francisco passed Proposition U overwhelmingly on election day, which calls for a complete cut-off of funding for the Iraq war except ONLY to bring ALL the troops home.
November 11th, 2008 at 1:15 pmGod, I LOVE that city.
No where in this blog does TP thank Veterans for their sacrifice and service to our country. Today is Veteran’s Day.
Take a moment to thank a veteran for preserving your freedom, your rights, and your privileges, including the freedom of speech which we all assert on this blog (whether we agree or disagree with each others’ posts, we can AGREE on this).
Thank you, veterans of the U.S. military, for protecting and our rights and privileges as U.S. citizens.
November 11th, 2008 at 1:16 pmWe may not be a perfect nation, but we are a perfect nation of ideals for which all other nations strive to achieve.
xenon Says
November 11th, 2008 at 1:09 pm
Is it my imagination, or does most female right-wing commentator look like the “Aryan ideal?” Nearly all have blonde hair (or hair that is dyed blonde).
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Hmmm…Ann Coulter, Laura Ingraham, Gretchen Carlson, Elizabeth Hasslebeck (and even Ainsley Hayes on The West Wing — played by Emily Proctor) — all blonde.
Sarah Palin and Michele Bachmann aren’t blonde, though. Perhaps the ones with brown hair actually run for office, and the blonde ones just pontificate.
But they do have a rather uncanny knack for looking somewhat alike — despite differences in hair color.
November 11th, 2008 at 1:17 pmHo-hum, another self-loathing republesbian getting all moist over the thought of being a second class citizen. How very late 19th century.
November 11th, 2008 at 1:18 pmI think she’s a nut (favorite line from Barney Fife.)
November 11th, 2008 at 1:20 pmtonyand lido
don’t just secede, join canada! we would love to have you!
November 11th, 2008 at 1:23 pmdamn, with that news coming from california, looks like either connecticut or massachussets will be the sight of the coulter/inghram nuptuals.
November 11th, 2008 at 1:24 pmAny guesses as to how often the extreme right has “looked to moderate or liberal Republicans” for anything?
November 11th, 2008 at 1:24 pmJT; with all appreciation, I was just one more draftee. But thank you, anyway.
November 11th, 2008 at 1:24 pmINGRAHAM: Arnold Schwarzenegger is embarrassing on so many levels. …
LAURA INGRAHAM is embarrassing on so many levels. …
There, that reads much better.
November 11th, 2008 at 1:25 pmDoes she, Hanratty, Limberger, and billo the clown now have a TOTAL of about 17 listeners?? And more over, does ANYONE outside of that 17 listeners really care??
Not I…RIP…
November 11th, 2008 at 1:27 pmWhat’s with people throwing around the idea of secession? Not only was it outlawed after the Civil War, it is not exactly the ‘easy answer’.
You don’t agree? Then go start your own country. That’ll solve the problem. Also, we won’t have to go half way around the world to fight for freedom and democracy.
November 11th, 2008 at 1:27 pmDo the right-wingers love America or just a handful of states ( those picked up by McCain last Tuesday)?
November 11th, 2008 at 1:27 pmPerry logan Says:
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Any guesses as to how often the extreme right has “looked to moderate or liberal Republicans” for anything?
I think they are disappointed because they can’t even find one. Maybe they should look in Dick Cheney’s man-sized safe.
November 11th, 2008 at 1:28 pmis it just me or is this broad looking like tony snow before he croaked? i guess shilling for a dollar against your own best interest takes a toll on ya.
November 11th, 2008 at 1:28 pmI love Laura, gop bless her little heinie…
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November 11th, 2008 at 1:28 pmWhat is it with wingnuts and secession?
They’re either pushing for their own states to secede or calling for others to…
Not much for compromise, are they, these folks?
November 11th, 2008 at 1:32 pmAnother radio talk show host I can’t stand is Tammy Bruce. She’s an ex-liberal; now she’s a “Independent Conservative. A “Democrat” for life except when she isn’t. Now she’s a “non-declared” as of early this year. She was President of the LA Chapter of NOW for seven years, but in 1996, the Executive Board of NOW censured her for racially insensitive comments. She resigned a few months later, and has had the hate on for NOW and liberals ever since. Voice like fingernails on a blackboard, and absolutely FULL of hate.
November 11th, 2008 at 1:35 pmuhhhbama – flagged – off topic.
November 11th, 2008 at 1:37 pmWhen will the Right Wing fools get it that “Far Left” positions are the mainstream in America? Ingraham and the rest of the RW goons need to leave the country…
http://www.sunstateactivist.org/ssablog/
November 11th, 2008 at 1:37 pmDr. Hussein Matt Says:
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Reich-wingers claim to “love America” but clearly hate Americans.
They tell me that they love “real Americans”. They just hate that huge majority of us who are unAmerican.
November 11th, 2008 at 1:37 pmralph the wonder llama @ #44 says:
The Confederacy and its collaborators are still with us. They lost the war but pretty much won the peace. Now they’re just losing because their dysfunctional reactionary ideology holds no solutions to the problems of the 21st Century.
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November 11th, 2008 at 1:37 pmuhhhbama Says
November 11th, 2008 at 1:34 pm
Look at the this wonderful display of civilized behavior from the loving left. hahahahahahaha
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I don’t think you really want to get into a contest of civility between the pro-gay rights crowd and the anti-gay crowd.
Not when there’s so much footage of Fred Phelps and his so-called “church” available.
November 11th, 2008 at 1:40 pmI mean, just leave already, at this point. Okay. Leave already. I can’t take it anymore from you, Laura.
November 11th, 2008 at 1:42 pmuhhhbama Says:
Video of Gay marriage mob attack, screams at elderly woman
Look at the this wonderful display of civilized behavior from the loving left. hahahahahahaha
Americans who pay taxes but receive no adequate representation lashing out. What a surprise.
You reich-wingers go about causing so much destruction while renowned for your “civilized behavior.”
You don’t actually think this proposition will stand the test of time, do you? The cry of freedom will prevail.
November 11th, 2008 at 1:43 pmJT the thing I hate about being a Veteran is I NEVER get Veterans day off….
:-(
November 11th, 2008 at 1:44 pmMcWars Says:
So democracy is just not good enough for ya?
November 11th, 2008 at 1:46 pmIn regards to Prop 8:
What if the Government never backed anything called “Marriage”? What if the Government only recognizes “Civil Unions” for couples (including heterosexual couples) and leaves the conditions for & term “marriage” to the churches or to the couples involved.
Problem solved… I think.
November 11th, 2008 at 1:46 pmuhhhbama,
November 11th, 2008 at 1:47 pmfor real, where do you get the lame pics?
dbadass Says:
From a far right wing site! Here’s the link!! Its very informative.
November 11th, 2008 at 1:50 pmimpeachcheneythenbush @ # 47 says:
She’s a regular ball of contradictions. She voted for Reagan and Clinton. She’s variously called herself a Democrat and a Classical Liberal and an Independent Conservative. She’s a pro-choice lesbian feminist. But otherwise seems to have a problem with “the Left” (which seems too much of an undefined mythological monolithic signifier designed to elicit anger redounding to the financial benefit of Tammy’s hot-talk radio masters).
Personally, I think she’s probably a little internally conflicted about things in general. Just a guess…
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November 11th, 2008 at 1:50 pmuhhhbama Says:
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McWars Says:
So democracy is just not good enough for ya?
No, you fool. The majority used to vote to keep races from intermarrying. He is saying that discrimination is wrong, even when voted by the majority. The ban on same sex marriage will eventually either be struck down by the Supreme Court, or it will be voted out one day.
In the end, you bigots always lose.
November 11th, 2008 at 1:51 pm666lattes Says:
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In regards to Prop 8:
What if the Government never backed anything called “Marriage”? What if the Government only recognizes “Civil Unions” for couples (including heterosexual couples) and leaves the conditions for & term “marriage” to the churches or to the couples involved.
Problem solved… I think.
No, the right-wingers would fight that just as hard. Their goal is to legalize inequality.
November 11th, 2008 at 1:55 pmMs Ingraham appears to be part of the problem, and not part of the solution. If she has her way, the republican party will be able to hold their convention at a Pizza Hut. You have to love the righties sense of inclusion. (insert snark here)
November 11th, 2008 at 1:58 pmArnie is showing what God gave him to the World. While walking with his wife it was clear he wasn’t wearing underwear and a reporter pointed it out to him. Arnie laughed and made movements to show more. This man is a sick pig and Marie is sad as she wants a man and keeps him when he’s just using her. If Obama puts him in any position in the White House he will be a total embarrassment and Californians remember Arnie was part of the Enron Plan, let’s hope Rahm Emanuel remembers that.
November 11th, 2008 at 1:58 pmGod. We’d LOVE to secede here . . . and take the world’s 5th largest economy with us. Trade with the U.S. would be one hell of a surplus for us. Also, since we are so close to the U.S we’d be protected by the U.S. military.
This suddenly sounds like a good idea to this Californian. =)
November 11th, 2008 at 1:58 pmZimzone Says:
I think Coulter & Ingraham should get married in California.
Unfortunately, that would now be illegal here in CA. (Unless Ann shows the judge her junk. Ew.)
November 11th, 2008 at 2:01 pmDemocracy–even direct democracy–is okay with me. But not without access to the information and education necessary to use democracy for the common good, which was what I –and Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Paine and the other bourgeois radical revolutionaries– thought was the point.
The Tyranny of the Genuinely Enlightened Majority is alright with me. Especially when compared with the Tyranny of the Neo-Neanderthal nincompoops who’ve been doing their worst to roll back Progress particularly since 1981.
The tide is turning and the thing of it is guys like Obama, the Dems and their allies will rescue the country and help make life better for even the most backward elements who’ve bugs up their butts and irrational defiance in whatever remains of their hearts.
HAVE A GOOD VETERANS DAY
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November 11th, 2008 at 2:02 pmI suggest AL, AK, GA, MS, LA, AL and TX get tossed from the nest.
November 11th, 2008 at 2:03 pmscytherius Says:
This suddenly sounds like a good idea to this Californian. =)
Hey, can Washington and Oregon get in on this? Sounds like fun.
November 11th, 2008 at 2:06 pmGood point.
November 11th, 2008 at 2:08 pmNaw, uhhhh, let’s just round up the neocon idiots (like you and dear Laura) and send them all to Gitmo.
November 11th, 2008 at 2:12 pmuhhhbama Says: FLAGGED FOR BEING A TOOL
November 11th, 2008 at 2:14 pmBuckie: I never got the day off for Veteran’s day since my discharge either. (:-o)
November 11th, 2008 at 2:19 pmExcuse me, Ms Ingraham? I have friends and family in California.
Also, California, Oregon, Washington also ruin it for the Republicans. I mean, 55 electoral votes just for California alone!
November 11th, 2008 at 2:21 pmSo cleaning the water, the oceans,the environment and fixing the health care system we have considered to Laura Ingram an extreme ,embarrasing and unacceptable.
I bet she would have loved Arnold Scharzengger had he suggested to bomb Iran tomorrow. !!!
Laura thinks helping the public is not a government’s duty.
According to Laura ,Government is only there to start wars…!!
Why should we even care about what Laura says anyway?.
If GOP continues this path, there will be no political party left soon but the party will have few radio talk show hosts like Laura addressing Joe the Plumber’s crowd.
November 11th, 2008 at 2:21 pmCould we put some lasers in all these fingers they are pointing…
November 11th, 2008 at 2:25 pmA west coast secession would be a real problem for the US on so many levels. Economically, Militarily, besides if Cali went so would the upper midwest, and north east.
November 11th, 2008 at 2:28 pmIngraham is a genius. We are in an economic meltdown so she wants to kick the SEVENTH LARGEST ECONOMY IN THE WORLD all on its own out of the union because they aren rabid, foam at the mouth, rightwing enough????? Brilliant. Cutting off your nose to spite your face would be flat out intelligent by comparison. I think Ingraham should leave the country I suggest Guatemala where her black fascist heart would fit right in.
November 11th, 2008 at 2:34 pmuhhbama/little white guy afraid of the black guy,
November 11th, 2008 at 2:35 pmDoesn’t it get sort of old trying to stir when you lack a whisk?
So which troll has been reincarnated as the uhhhbama puke? Anyone figure that out? It seems as stupid as the John Kerry troll.
It is not surprising that the fcks change their monikers after that pure rejection on election day, and exactly what you would expect from the gutless Repug whores.
November 11th, 2008 at 2:35 pmshoeless Says
November 11th, 2008 at 1:51 pm
The majority used to vote to keep races from intermarrying. He is saying that discrimination is wrong, even when voted by the majority. The ban on same sex marriage will eventually either be struck down by the Supreme Court, or it will be voted out one day.
In the end, you bigots always lose.
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It’s worth saying that if we always allowed the people to determine by direct vote who got rights and who didn’t, very few people would have any.
Today, women have the right to vote.
Today, 18-year olds have the right to vote.
Today, nobody has to pay a poll tax to vote.
Today, there are no Jim Crow laws, and racial segregation is illegal.
Today, a woman has the right to do with her own body as she wishes unless she is carrying a fetus old enough to be viable outside the womb.
Today, it is illegal for a person in this country to be the property of another person.
All of the above items came about through our courts or our elected officials. None came about through a direct vote by the people.
And the time will come when gays will be considered people, and treated by the law as such. But it may take the SCOTUS to say so.
November 11th, 2008 at 2:38 pmooops uhhbama, I ment uhhhbama. Names are important. No disrepect intended. Still in your next incarnation can you please avoid run-on consonants
November 11th, 2008 at 2:39 pmnanlichi Says
November 11th, 2008 at 2:35 pm
So which troll has been reincarnated as the uhhhbama puke? Anyone figure that out? It seems as stupid as the John Kerry troll.
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I’m going to take a wild guess and say that uhhhbama is reincarnated good_golly. One of GG’s favorite things is to cut and paste a bunch of irrelevant drivel from wingnut site for no purpose other than to annoy. And this one does the same thing.
November 11th, 2008 at 2:41 pmLet’s hear it for the Constitution. If he could run for Prez, Das Governator would be the most dangerous candidate the GOP could put up.
November 11th, 2008 at 2:45 pmwell other than the old dredged up gay porn…
November 11th, 2008 at 2:56 pmWe luvs us sum Lora Coulter…
November 11th, 2008 at 2:59 pmTirebiter in Sector R Says:
Let’s hear it for the Constitution. If he could run for Prez, Das Governator would be the most dangerous candidate the GOP could put up.
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Probably true and I always love to show support for a Firesign Theater fan
November 11th, 2008 at 2:59 pmuhhhbama Says:
So democracy is just not good enough for ya?
Thanks for taking on the vile troll spew, shoeless.
My own response, short and sweet, is that tyranny of the majority is not democracy. Should the troll decide to read something its miserable life, misshusseinmolly @ 2:38 pm explains this with her unmatched scholarly prowess.
November 11th, 2008 at 3:01 pmLaura, what are you really trying to get rid of? All of the tax money we send to Washington (not all of which comes to back us in benefits and services)? Or our 55 electoral votes? The 55 votes the GOP can’t get for love or money? Or fraud?
November 11th, 2008 at 3:21 pmuhhhbama Says:
So which type of government do you prefer? The dictatorial type that agrees with you and your little warped sense of reality?
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The kind WE have, that is a CONSTITUTIONAL Democracy will do. We dont get to vote on rights. If we did then miscegenation laws would most likely still be on the books in about 15 states. The LAW is king in this country and minority rights are protected. I am sure that doesnt agree with your fascist idiocy
November 11th, 2008 at 3:22 pmSecede already. I can’t take it anymore from California.
Uh, Laura, I agree in principle, but have you looked at the electoral map lately? The logistics will be easier if you join the AIP and do the seceding yourself. There’s plenty of room in Alaska for all the remaining Real Americans. You can even have the name “Real America”. You can make premarital sex a felony, make weekly evangelical protestant church attendance mandatory, outlaw labor unions … it’ll be perfect. We’ll keep the nukes though, if that’s all right with you.
November 11th, 2008 at 3:23 pmINGRAHAM: Arnold Schwarzenegger is embarrassing on so many levels. … Every time we look to moderate to liberal Republicans for answers, we’re disappointed. Not only are we disappointed, we end up getting shafted. […]
Actually Laura dear, you have it exactly backwards. The party turned to the right wing Republicans and got shafted big time in the election.
These people are incapable of learning from their mistakes.
November 11th, 2008 at 3:27 pmuhhhbama Says:
So which type of government do you prefer? The dictatorial type that agrees with you and your little warped sense of reality?
This is an uphill battle, back-and-forth with a miscreant.
You need a seventh grade civics text, or you can read missmolly’s post for the time being.
November 11th, 2008 at 3:30 pmI think we take EugeneDebs for granted at this point for doing such a good job flushing troll scum down the toilet and following with Rid-x.
November 11th, 2008 at 3:32 pmThis whole situation makes me crazy. They all say they are trying to protect the “sanctity of marriage”. If they really cared about the sanctity of marriage they would be working on outlawing divorce and making adultery a crime. Gays getting married has nothing to do with the sanctity of marriage.
November 11th, 2008 at 3:39 pmuhhhbama.
November 11th, 2008 at 3:39 pmWhen you try and force a dichotomous choice, you are still obligated to provide alternate choices…
EugeneDebs Says:
How does this make people suffer? They have the same tax benefits as a married couple, just not the label. I hope this doesn’t stop at Gay couples, I hope is goes to material items, animals and body parts. Nothing is more destructive to a society than out of control liberalism. All you have to do is care and have an equal hatred for a fabricated enemy. “the evil white man” Boo hahahahahahahahaha stupid little libs!
November 11th, 2008 at 3:40 pmthat was an odd transition to the “evil white man” part. Still I love it. It is just the sort of bizarre I live for. Can you have your people talk to my people as I really want to use that in a future context…
November 11th, 2008 at 3:45 pmnote to idiot: see last 8 years of conservative rule……be sure to check out the fact that our economy is in full recession and bordering on depression which is global this time…..thanks to conservative policies…..also a war of folly….george the conservative at work.
history repeats itself too fool. It happens every time conservatives get power.
talk is cheap and you are all talk.
November 11th, 2008 at 3:50 pmuhhhbama
read it and weep my friend
November 11th, 2008 at 3:51 pmuhhhbama Says:
EugeneDebs Says:
How does this make people suffer? They have the same tax benefits as a married couple, just not the label.
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It denies the right to marry which the courts have already ruled ARE an intrinsic right to a minority of citizens while allowing them to the majority.
I hope this doesn’t stop at Gay couples, I hope is goes to material items, animals and body parts.
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Sure because to perverted ignorant scum cons like YOU talk about gays and your mind goes immediatly to beastiality. Hey feel free to molest all the small furry animals you want but we dont really care to hear about it. Can animals and body parts CONSENT? My GOD you are ignorant.
Nothing is more destructive to a society than out of control liberalism. All you have to do is care and have an equal hatred for a fabricated enemy. “the evil white man” Boo hahahahahahahahaha stupid little libs!
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YOU are calling US stupid? You DEFINE ignorance. Actually nothing is more destructive to a society than Ebeneezer Scrooge worshipping morons like YOU having power. YOU would completely destroy society itself and turn the country into a large group of people living in the same geographic area only caring about themselves because of your selfishness and abject stupidity. Fabricating enemies is a staple of the rightwing and your ignorant projection is transparent to all. I guess the evil white man comment was just the latest in a long line of your ignorant delusions since in a thread about Ingraham attacking California and Swartzenegger I cant think of where else it could possibly come from. Astonishing ignorance is the HALLMARK of conservaves, you moronic self deluded and brainwashed imbecile
November 11th, 2008 at 3:51 pmFred Says:
So sub-prime loans had nothing to do with the current state of the economy?
November 11th, 2008 at 3:55 pmI think you’re right missmolly about GG, I recognize the straw man arguments. And wasn’t GG an alias for the venerable Venus Valianus?
I am still waiting to see the concession posting from the freak section. It’s not hard to write.
“You were right. I was wrong. Let’s give President Obama a chance to step on it and give him support till he does”
November 11th, 2008 at 3:58 pmWould not have happened if not for conservatives. Just the facts maam. Did you check out the link in post #101?
November 11th, 2008 at 4:04 pm“Nothing is more destructive to a society than out of control liberalism”
If we stuck to neo conservative ideals…blacks would still be slaves…we would be fighting 3 wars (Iran)…the economy would have callapsed with no intravention just to name a few.
It’s also funny how countries like Canada, England , France, Italy, Germany to name a few “lib countries” have a higher standard of living. So much for our system.
Oh by the way….the total callapse of the economy has not accured as of yet and when it does we can all cellibrate the conservative movement. Then we can all rejoice in the death of conservatives. Fricken Idiots
November 11th, 2008 at 4:05 pmWho cares what she thinks now. She’s irrelevant.
November 11th, 2008 at 4:12 pmis laura fantasizing in that picture?
November 11th, 2008 at 4:13 pmTell Laura the fool to put her hand down no one cares what you think!!!!
November 11th, 2008 at 4:24 pmJT Says:
No where in this blog does TP thank Veterans for their sacrifice and service to our country. Today is Veteran’s Day.
Take a moment to thank a veteran for preserving your freedom, your rights, and your privileges, including the freedom of speech which we all assert on this blog (whether we agree or disagree with each others’ posts, we can AGREE on this).
Thank you, veterans of the U.S. military, for protecting and our rights and privileges as U.S. citizens.
We may not be a perfect nation, but we are a perfect nation of ideals for which all other nations strive to achieve.
November 11th, 2008 at 1:16 pm
Thank you, JT, bit appreciates your remarks.
To be up front about it, though, bit didn’t service to insure that these ideals: a woman can destroy her preborn child and call it freedom to privacy and two same-same gender people can commit perversion and call it marriage, remain a part of the American way of life.
November 11th, 2008 at 4:26 pmLaura is the type of Republican that mouths off with this “California is prime evil…go away already!!!!” crap when progressive ideals (that make so much sense that morons like her can’t ever debunk them) are put on the table. But once you get the “Yes” vote on Prop 8, California doesn’t look so bad with those fearful neocons who slapdown the gays and lesbians for the party and God invisible-almighty.
So to sum it all up, once a group of Republicans do the parties bidding, Laura wants them gone for what the Governor says. Oh yeah, I sure don’t hear Laura disagreeing with Ahnuld’s little gerrymandering B.S. Proposition that got approved.
November 11th, 2008 at 4:29 pmLet’s see… “sub-prime loans”… a ripe opportunity for mortgage brokers to increase their volume and grow commissions by increasing the demand for housing… that’s called “Demand Side Economics” by the way, much more efficient than “Supply Side Economics”…
where was I? Oh, that’s right — dismantling the troll’s silly argument that the sub-prime real estate market was somehow a manifestation of “liberal policies”.
Yeah, market deregulation which led to more elaborate and complex mortgage leveraging, which in turn spread the risk across more parties, which in turn led otherwise responsible financial firms to feel confident taking on riskier investments… yeah, I can see how that sounds pretty liberal — to an idiot.
November 11th, 2008 at 4:32 pmWhat is bitblt doing here? There are no gay issues being discussed on this thread. Unless one considers Laura Ingraham a “gay issue”.
November 11th, 2008 at 4:33 pmLaura – Move to Iraq already!! We can’t take you anymore!!!!
November 11th, 2008 at 4:34 pmBelieve Governor Schwarzenegger remarked after the CA supreme Court decision on May 15, that same-same gender marriage, so-called, would be worth $600M to CA.
That’s the number bit remembers even though it seems exorbitant to bit.
Whether or not the Gov believes that same-same gender marriage, so-called, represents equal rights, he doubtlessly believes in generating revenue.
The number of same-same gender marriages, so-called, reported – 18,000 couples – represents 0.1% of the population of CA and about 3.29% of the homosexuals in CA. Since CA doesn’t have a residency requirement for issuing these same-same gender marriage, so-called, licenses, the actual number of CA homosexuals involved with be less than the 18,000 couples.
Further, the U.S. Constitution does not grant the authority for two same-same gender people to enter into a so-called marriage. The Constitution was not written to support licentiousness – immorality.
November 11th, 2008 at 4:37 pmYou don’t get to pick and choose. You have to decide if your are an American or not. Abortion rights are legal, it’s the American way.
gay bashers like yourself are dwindling in numbers. You are just a run of the mill hater.
good people and bad serve but you don’t get to decide what freedom means. We all do that, together. You agreed to it and were all on board for democracy when bush was elected.
what happened?
November 11th, 2008 at 4:37 pmralph the wonder llama Says:
What is bitblt doing here? There are no gay issues being discussed on this thread. Unless one considers Laura Ingraham a “gay issue”.
Laura can’t be “gay”, because the woman doesn’t know the meaning of the words “happy”, “fun” or “cheerful”.
November 11th, 2008 at 4:38 pmbitblt
check this out
Let freedom ring.
November 11th, 2008 at 4:40 pmOh, I see now.
bit decided to make the thread about gay issues.
ralph admires bit’s consistency.
November 11th, 2008 at 4:41 pmbitblt Says:
Believe Governor Schwarzenegger remarked after the CA supreme Court decision on May 15, that same-same gender marriage, so-called, would be worth $600M to CA.
That’s the number bit remembers even though it seems exorbitant to bit.
Whether or not the Gov believes that same-same gender marriage, so-called, represents equal rights, he doubtlessly believes in generating revenue.
The number of same-same gender marriages, so-called, reported – 18,000 couples – represents 0.1% of the population of CA and about 3.29% of the homosexuals in CA. Since CA doesn’t have a residency requirement for issuing these same-same gender marriage, so-called, licenses, the actual number of CA homosexuals involved with be less than the 18,000 couples.
Further, the U.S. Constitution does not grant the authority for two same-same gender people to enter into a so-called marriage. The Constitution was not written to support licentiousness – immorality.
And slaves used to count as 3/5’s of a person. Are you so dumb as to think laws can’t be amended? Because religious leaders since the Dark Ages have amended the rules laid down in the bible for much more than “spiritual” gain.
November 11th, 2008 at 4:42 pmIsn’t self-love a sin in the bible? So if you touch yourself, you’re already immoral. So are you a self-hating, self-toucher bitblt?
November 11th, 2008 at 4:47 pmmisshusseinmolly Says:
uhhhbama Says
November 11th, 2008 at 1:34 pm
Look at the this wonderful display of civilized behavior from the loving left. hahahahahahaha
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I don’t think you really want to get into a contest of civility between the pro-gay rights crowd and the anti-gay crowd.
Not when there’s so much footage of Fred Phelps and his so-called “church” available.
November 11th, 2008 at 1:40 pm
The Phelps crowds are usually very visible and very loud but very respect of the constraints placed on their demonstrations.
Unlike those in this account.
Watch church lady meet same-sex ‘marriage’ protesters
Cross-carrying senior, reporter face screams, threats
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=80711
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=80711
November 11th, 2008 at 4:59 pm
bitblt Says:
hate begats hate
November 11th, 2008 at 5:13 pmYo can I get one of those vibrators that tells me when my table os set or the phelbotomist is ready?
November 11th, 2008 at 5:14 pmAwesome!
bitblt defends Fred Phelps and the Westboro “God hates fags” crowd!
ralph is impressed by the elasticity of bit’s sense of values.
November 11th, 2008 at 5:15 pmralph is also impressed by the rock-solid integrity of the sources bit chooses to support his arguments.
November 11th, 2008 at 5:15 pmstill crazy people that think their religion is better than the religions of others crack me up. What a bunch of jerks…
November 11th, 2008 at 5:15 pmFred Says:
bitblt Says:
hate begats hate
November 11th, 2008 at 5:13 pm
There’s no hate here, dude, just pity.
November 11th, 2008 at 5:16 pmdbadass Says:
still crazy people that think their religion is better than the religions of others crack me up. What a bunch of jerks…
November 11th, 2008 at 5:15 pm
That there are those who think all religions are equal is lamentable.
November 11th, 2008 at 5:17 pmraalph,
November 11th, 2008 at 5:17 pmdbadass does not see it a leap for bit to defend the Phelp’s sideshow. What other beliefs might bit think make the nation worth whatever the hell bit is always saying about that. What is that phrase again?
Makes the nation not worth preserving…is the phrase bit thinks dbadass is trying to remember.
November 11th, 2008 at 5:20 pmyeah, that’s it. Thanks for that bitblt…
November 11th, 2008 at 5:20 pmDoes bit mean to say that his religion is better than all others?
bit’s meaning is not clear to ralph.
November 11th, 2008 at 5:27 pmFor real bitblt. Show me how the religions rank from best to worst in the mind on bit? List the top ten for me will ya? One can be the best and ten the worst. Oh and feel free to mess around with sects within larger groupings. Cults are okay too as it’s all the same to me. Then explain the exact reasons for the rankings of the top five. I figure this shit has got to be way mor f ucked up than that college football shit… Thanks bit. You da man!
November 11th, 2008 at 5:27 pmserious problem here…….bit thinks he’s better than others…..i’m shocked.
November 11th, 2008 at 5:30 pmOkay what if we agree to put the Lutherans somewhere in the middle just to be nice? Now the Methodists that’s a whole ‘nother story…
November 11th, 2008 at 5:46 pmbitblt Says:
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That there are those who think all religions are equal is lamentable.
Oh, this is easy.
bitblt’s religion is the bestest, supercalifragilisticexpialidocious religion ever.
Other white people’s religions are mostly OK, except Catholics and Mormons.
Blacks say they are Christians, but their’s is no good because black people are scary.
Nobody knows what religion yellow people are.
And, of course, brown people are the devil.
Simple, eh?
November 11th, 2008 at 6:00 pmOkay bit, maybe 10 is too many, wanna start with 5?
November 11th, 2008 at 6:01 pmralph believes that bit’s underlying message is:
“My god can beat up your god!”
ralph could be oversimplifying that, but ralph believes it hits pretty close to the mark.
November 11th, 2008 at 6:02 pmI love these blue state conservatives saying blue states should secede.
How about Oklahoma, Arkansas, Mississippi, Tennessee, and other states like that secede, and take Ingraham and Limbaugh with them — assuming they would want to live there.
November 11th, 2008 at 6:03 pmDo those states have Neiman Marcus and Saks 5th Avenue?
November 11th, 2008 at 6:17 pmbitblt must be getting either tired or old or both. No vigor left…
November 11th, 2008 at 6:22 pmdbadass, thinking about your GCS rankings (that’s “God Championship Series”, of course) one would have to assume that any God that hates fags is automatically bowl-eligible, right?
So that alone puts Allah right up there.
November 11th, 2008 at 6:24 pmthat’s a good point ralph. I might add that any funky blue god with excessive limbs seems to warrant a slot. Still let’s go down to the sidelines and see what some washed up has been god has to say…
November 11th, 2008 at 6:27 pmAmerica – love it or leave it, Laura.
Seriously, why don’t the wingnuts just go lease a nice chunk of South America and create their dream country? No habeus corpus, no regulations on business, no restrictions on torture, minimal regressive taxes, a strong military with little to no civilian government, unitary executive theory… it would be heaven for them.
It would also be identical to every tinpot banana republic that’s ever existed, but that fact apparently seems to be beneath their notice.
November 11th, 2008 at 6:40 pmWell, Laura Ingraham exposed the identities of gay students while she was at Dartmouth College over two decades ago. Later she found out that her own biological brother is gay.
I find it amusing how the never-married 40-something Ann-thrax Coulter and Icky-ham keep on trying to defend the so-called sanctity of marriage.
ralph the wonder llama Says:
November 11th, 2008 at 6:44 pmWhat is bitblt doing here? There are no gay issues being discussed on this thread. Unless one considers Laura Ingraham a “gay issue”.
Hear that?
November 11th, 2008 at 7:28 pmThat’s the sound of her head exploding.
Buh Bye Laura, Don’t bother writing.
You won’t be missed. Next stop, Irrelevantville.
That bus is gettin crowded.
All religions are equal.
November 11th, 2008 at 7:32 pmThey are. There is no denying it.
They all suck.
November 11th, 2008 at 7:35 pmThey all are so full of bullshit that it stinks all the way to “High Heaven.”
Religion has caused so much death and destruction over the centuries that anyone with a semblance of a thinking brain has to wonder.Is the real?
OOpppsss
November 11th, 2008 at 7:36 pmThat was supposed to be,
Is this real?
bitblt Says:
To be up front about it, though, bit didn’t service to insure that these ideals: a woman can destroy her preborn child and call it freedom to privacy and two same-same gender people can commit perversion and call it marriage, remain a part of the American way of
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To be upfront about it Bitty is a moron if he thinks serving in the military gives him the right to decide what rights Americans have and dont have. Then again we always KNEW bit was a moron and he is far too stupid for HIM to decide what is and what isnt a perversion. Go suck an egg Bittymoron
November 11th, 2008 at 7:42 pmbitblt Says:
The number of same-same gender marriages, so-called, reported – 18,000 couples – represents 0.1% of the population of CA and about 3.29% of the homosexuals in CA. Since CA doesn’t have a residency requirement for issuing these same-same gender marriage, so-called, licenses, the actual number of CA homosexuals involved with be less than the 18,000 couples.
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The number of people denied a right others have is irrelvant one is too many.
Further, the U.S. Constitution does not grant the authority for two same-same gender people to enter into a so-called marriage. The Constitution was not written to support licentiousness – immorality.
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The constitution DOES gaurantee that a right given some citizens NOT be denied others. You are way too stupid to be the decider about what is licentious or immoral. You are an ignorant punk we dont CARE what you think. I notice that those who are too much of a loser to GET laid are inordinatly worried about the sex OTHER people are having. Stop being such an ignorant loser and perhaps a woman NOT made of latex will give you the time of day.
November 11th, 2008 at 7:47 pmbitblt Says:
hate begats hate
There’s no hate here, dude, just pity.
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There is nothing in you at all except stupid bit. Tons and tons of stupid.
November 11th, 2008 at 7:49 pmbitblt Says:
still crazy people that think their religion is better than the religions of others crack me up. What a bunch of jerks…
November 11th, 2008 at 5:15 pm
That there are those who think all religions are equal is lamentable.
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That there are those stupid enough and arrogant enough to think THEY know the mind of God and can judge others by their religion is not only sad but pathetic. That is you bit sad and pathetic
November 11th, 2008 at 7:52 pmEugene thinks bit is an intolerant hateful moron
November 11th, 2008 at 7:53 pmLaura,
Has anyone ever told you you’re a very ugly woman? Actually, you’re borderline repugnant.
So, if anyone ever asks you, “Has anyone told you you’re ugly,” you can say yes now.
Have a Happy Day.
November 11th, 2008 at 8:46 pmLaura, are you and Ann Coulter close, like real close… maybe sisters?
Y’all look alike, think alike, so I was just wondering.
November 11th, 2008 at 8:52 pmbit is the kind of hater who thinks that if he expresses his hate calmly and couches it in terms of “faith” then it becomes something other than hate.
bit is wrong about that.
November 11th, 2008 at 8:56 pmAny “religion” is a state of mind. Fantasy.
November 11th, 2008 at 9:26 pmToo bad Laura can’t see what thinking, rational, people see…the ideology of the reichwingnut fringe has failed. They are over…she is a of the past and should be looking for a new job. These people are beating a dead horse.
November 11th, 2008 at 9:28 pmralph the wonder llama Says:
Yes Ralph you are correct. Bit is ABSOLUTLY WRONG about that
November 11th, 2008 at 10:40 pmOmg, bitbit is back in the third person again? Didn’t he get some charges for cannibalism against him, something about homeless people for dinner?
Sorry, I just can’t bring myself to have to do the whole talking to non-existent third personalities thing. Glad you guys dealt with him.
November 11th, 2008 at 10:52 pmI believe Laura is really a man.Look at that jawbone!!
November 12th, 2008 at 12:28 am46. impeachcheneythenbush Says:
Another radio talk show host I can’t stand is Tammy Bruce. She’s an ex-liberal; now she’s a “Independent Conservative. A “Democrat” for life except when she isn’t. Now she’s a “non-declared” as of early this year. She was President of the LA Chapter of NOW for seven years, but in 1996, the Executive Board of NOW censured her for racially insensitive comments. She resigned a few months later, and has had the hate on for NOW and liberals ever since. Voice like fingernails on a blackboard, and absolutely FULL of hate.
Tammy Bruce is also a lesbian. Thats right Tammy Bruce is a right wing dyke!! You can’t make this sh*t up!!!
November 12th, 2008 at 12:44 amWell, sonofabit!
November 12th, 2008 at 1:12 amWhen did Coulter get a face transplant?
November 12th, 2008 at 1:37 amLaura Boraham is a right wing hate skank..have you ever listened to her radio show… talk about boring.. when i see her on o’reilly all she does is talk hate…just like hannity and rush..she needs to get laid and eat fiber.
November 12th, 2008 at 7:16 amThere is a certain Representative from Georgia who Laura might want to meet. To her and Mr. Broun I say:
November 12th, 2008 at 7:44 amLOVE IT OR LEAVE IT!
That there are those who think all religions are equal is lamentable.
Don’t strain yourself looking down your nose to sternly.
I wish you could meet “God” soon.
You’re going to be horribly disappointed.
November 12th, 2008 at 8:45 amIt is time for Texas to secede from this very screwed up union.
November 25th, 2008 at 8:31 pmThe USA has become a haven for people who just want a hand out from someone who has had to work for it.
If gays want to get hooked up they should come up with their own terms for it, like “Gayage” and leave marraige out of it.
They only want to adopt to procreate their species, that is just plane wrong.