Comments on: Luntz: Congressional GOP Leadership Should Not Be ‘Reappointed’ After ’06 And ’08 Losses

By: ElBruce

ElBruce — Fri, 14 Nov 2008 18:51:48 +0000

Here’s the problem with Luntz’s argument: a new movement has to form within the party before its proponents can be promoted.

Just kicking the old guys out isn’t going to do any good, unless there’s anybody with new ideas to replace them with. That just doesn’t exist right now.

By: Klem Kiddilehopper

Klem Kiddilehopper — Fri, 14 Nov 2008 18:11:54 +0000

“Subjects are less apprehensive of illegal treatment from a ruler whom they consider God-fearing and pious!”
Aristotle

By: BaxterJ

BaxterJ — Fri, 14 Nov 2008 17:43:58 +0000

Yeah, it’s not like Luntz helped the GOP out.

By: Gregor Samsa

Gregor Samsa — Fri, 14 Nov 2008 17:16:43 +0000

The GOP should stay the course.

Mistakes, you say? What mistakes? There were never any.

But if there were, it was Clinton’s fault. Or those damn immigrants who won’t assimilate, or them black folk, them Muslims, those tree-huggin’ libruls, or the gays. So there.

By: bigeugene

bigeugene — Fri, 14 Nov 2008 17:08:07 +0000

I agree they should go. But shouldn’t their water boys, like Luntz, never get a job again as well? I mean, hasn’t he been supporting them and their agenda for years? How’s he different from them?

By: RUCerious

RUCerious — Fri, 14 Nov 2008 16:38:29 +0000

No Frankie, NO! Leave these losers in power to complete their mission of the utter destruction of the Repugnicant party.

By: DavidHart

DavidHart — Fri, 14 Nov 2008 16:33:00 +0000

I don’t know what “conservative” means anymore. Is that the ideal represented by James Dobson or Barry Goldwater? Goldwater was “Mr. Conservative;” fiercely pro-choice, a conservationist and – ultimately – a proponent of gay rights. I’m not fawning over Barry. He was a war monger.

The point is that the term conservative has become meaningless.

By: YouCantHandleDaTruth

YouCantHandleDaTruth — Fri, 14 Nov 2008 16:28:32 +0000

Nah Leave the current GOPer leadership in place!!!

Obama will need 2 admins to change America

By: alphainfinityomega

alphainfinityomega — Fri, 14 Nov 2008 16:27:01 +0000

Luntz better hope FOX and Hannity don’t hear about that.

¶ AIO

By: VerbalKint

VerbalKint — Fri, 14 Nov 2008 16:25:58 +0000

But George Will thinks that McConnell will save the Republicans next time around.

By: 00mpp00

00mpp00 — Fri, 14 Nov 2008 16:22:35 +0000

The GOP must learn that this is a now center-left country. In fact, the Democrats need to accept that, too.

http://www.sunstateactivist.org/ssablog/

By: stateofthedivision

stateofthedivision — Fri, 14 Nov 2008 16:17:45 +0000

Leadership skills required for governance should be vastly different from America’s hypercompetitive, untruthful election process.

That they’re not is very concerning.

By: vinylspear

vinylspear — Fri, 14 Nov 2008 16:15:52 +0000

The GOP shouldn’t change a thing. Keep up the good work!
Years of destructive tradition uninterrupted by any measurable advancement forward for humanity.

By: 5th Estate

5th Estate — Fri, 14 Nov 2008 16:08:55 +0000

Katy…yeah!

We’ve just had 8 years of their ‘core values‘. That’s worked-out really well!

By: katy

katy — Fri, 14 Nov 2008 16:03:40 +0000

here’s the new leader!

At Miami conference, GOP governors vow to right the ship
The Miami Herald – 54 minutes ago
Gov. Sarah Palin took center stage in the last day of a GOP governors conference where leaders asked themselves where the party is headed — but did not find clear answers.
Video: Palin Urges GOP Governors to Keep Dems Honest AssociatedPress
Palin says Republican Party must return to its core values USA Today
Boston Globe – MSNBC – New York Times – Los Angeles Times

keep DEMS honest?!?!

“core values”???

ha!

By: 5th Estate

5th Estate — Fri, 14 Nov 2008 16:03:28 +0000

Or rather, it’s not a “generational problem”, it’s a mental problem

As #5 Chuck Feney says; “How long did the geniuses in the GOP think their house of inherent contradictions would stand?” .

By: 5th Estate

5th Estate — Fri, 14 Nov 2008 15:59:42 +0000

The GOP won their elections by convincing a majority that they would represent their constituents and establish practical beneficial policies.

The GOP lost because they represented their biggest financiers, invented ‘issues’ to keep their insane base exercised, and lied about the true nature of their larger policies—and Luntz was particularly active in that.

The Republicans thought they’d achieved a permanent majority and could do what the hell they wanted–and they did. Trouble is their policies were all inherently flawed and because of their gung-ho approach they exposed those flaws themselves.

Their social programs don’t work, their economics don’t work, their ‘diplomacy’ doesn’t work and their militarism doesn’t work because everything they do is guided by a self referential ideology that demands they are right, regardless.

Either the Republicans face reality and adjust to it ( in which case they will move to the center and thus become less distinguishable from Democrats) or they will try to re-package the same old crap in a shiny new wrapper–that’s a Luntz specialty.

Conservativism isn’t about change. If they do change, then they are no longer conservatives, are they?

And that’s a brain-exploding thought.

By: rastaman

rastaman — Fri, 14 Nov 2008 15:59:05 +0000

HAHAHAHAHAH…..

I NEVER THOUGHT I WOULD SEE THE DAY WHEN A REPUGLICAN LOOKS TO FRANCE OR MEXICO FOR POLITICAL DIRECTION

THIS IS TRULY AN ORWELLIAN BIZARRO WORLD

By: Zimzone

Zimzone — Fri, 14 Nov 2008 15:37:46 +0000

That’s right…301K…

By: Zimzone

Zimzone — Fri, 14 Nov 2008 15:35:17 +0000

Luntz is as malleable as the wind. He’ll drift over to any side catching media attention; that’s how he makes his money.

McConnell & Boner are inept, corrupt and not real smart. GOOPers would do well to evaluate this, but egos, tradition and money will prevent any smell of reality from entering the room.

In fact, under their ‘leadership’, Republics support may diminish quicker than your 301K on Wall St.