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		<title>By: stateofthedivision</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/11/17/bailout-tally/comment-page-1/#comment-5346516</link>
		<dc:creator>stateofthedivision</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 22:25:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>fname, you&#039;re describing the kind of accounting that exists in the private sector.  It&#039;s notably absent in the public arena, especially our federal government.

The annual $3 trillion budget is not broken down between operating and capital expenses. Other oddities, the Pentagon lost $1.5 billion worth of assets in an inventory.  Our BLM couldn&#039;t find a way to include royalty payment requirements on oil leases. 

Until those Financial Rescue Program (FRP) assets are sold and money returned to the Treasury or Fed, I&#039;m counting them as our expense.  I&#039;m happy to give the feds credit when they flip the junk, sell the preferred shares or those distressed institutions make good on their debt (by actually paying it back).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>fname, you&#8217;re describing the kind of accounting that exists in the private sector.  It&#8217;s notably absent in the public arena, especially our federal government.</p>
<p>The annual $3 trillion budget is not broken down between operating and capital expenses. Other oddities, the Pentagon lost $1.5 billion worth of assets in an inventory.  Our BLM couldn&#8217;t find a way to include royalty payment requirements on oil leases. </p>
<p>Until those Financial Rescue Program (FRP) assets are sold and money returned to the Treasury or Fed, I&#8217;m counting them as our expense.  I&#8217;m happy to give the feds credit when they flip the junk, sell the preferred shares or those distressed institutions make good on their debt (by actually paying it back).<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5346516', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: fname</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/11/17/bailout-tally/comment-page-1/#comment-5346436</link>
		<dc:creator>fname</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 21:46:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I oppose the bailout big time (see &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.flickr.com/photos/jakerome/2884641572/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this photo&lt;/a&gt;, for example), I think that Think Progress is doing its readers a disservice by lumping all the programs into one and pretending that the money is being spent. 

There are several programs, including the much-maligned $700 billion bailout, which could cost the taxpayers $200-300 billion if managed poorly. The Bear Stearns guarantees are up to $30 billion, but will likely cost the Treasury much less than a third of that. The other programs, primarily the Fed loans and government backing of Fannie &amp; Freddie, are loan guarantees that represent the entire value of the portfolios, and are certainly not a realistic estimate of likely costs to the government.

This sort of glib misrepresentation only helps to muddle any opposition to the bailout programs by making it far to easy for the financial services lobby to point at these off-hand lies as evidence that the those opposing the bailout don&#039;t understand the complexity.

Many of us do, and judging by the your articles, most of us understand it better than the editors here. Please spend some time listening to Planet Money and working to understand the entire complexity before making your next &quot;the sky has fallen&quot; post. If you do, we will all be better served.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I oppose the bailout big time (see <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/jakerome/2884641572/" rel="nofollow">this photo</a>, for example), I think that Think Progress is doing its readers a disservice by lumping all the programs into one and pretending that the money is being spent. </p>
<p>There are several programs, including the much-maligned $700 billion bailout, which could cost the taxpayers $200-300 billion if managed poorly. The Bear Stearns guarantees are up to $30 billion, but will likely cost the Treasury much less than a third of that. The other programs, primarily the Fed loans and government backing of Fannie &amp; Freddie, are loan guarantees that represent the entire value of the portfolios, and are certainly not a realistic estimate of likely costs to the government.</p>
<p>This sort of glib misrepresentation only helps to muddle any opposition to the bailout programs by making it far to easy for the financial services lobby to point at these off-hand lies as evidence that the those opposing the bailout don&#8217;t understand the complexity.</p>
<p>Many of us do, and judging by the your articles, most of us understand it better than the editors here. Please spend some time listening to Planet Money and working to understand the entire complexity before making your next &#8220;the sky has fallen&#8221; post. If you do, we will all be better served.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5346436', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: stateofthedivision</title>
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		<dc:creator>stateofthedivision</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 21:12:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes LividLib, the big money boy, never ending bailout is truly sickening.  And all they can scream for is:

1. corporate tax and capital gains cuts  
2. lowered employee wages and benefits

When was the last time a government entity gave a firm $10 billion and the beneficiary turned around and cut 50,000 jobs?  We used to have economic development programs, now it&#039;s straight up corporate welfare.

The State of Texas gave Vought Aircraft Industries $35 million to cut 600 jobs.  Vought is an affiliate of The Carlyle Group.  They owe folks in Dallas 3,000 jobs by 2009.  

I bet they go the way of CitiGroup before fulfilling their contractual obligation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes LividLib, the big money boy, never ending bailout is truly sickening.  And all they can scream for is:</p>
<p>1. corporate tax and capital gains cuts<br />
2. lowered employee wages and benefits</p>
<p>When was the last time a government entity gave a firm $10 billion and the beneficiary turned around and cut 50,000 jobs?  We used to have economic development programs, now it&#8217;s straight up corporate welfare.</p>
<p>The State of Texas gave Vought Aircraft Industries $35 million to cut 600 jobs.  Vought is an affiliate of The Carlyle Group.  They owe folks in Dallas 3,000 jobs by 2009.  </p>
<p>I bet they go the way of CitiGroup before fulfilling their contractual obligation.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5346378', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: ricchase</title>
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		<dc:creator>ricchase</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 20:57:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hate it when they call this crap &quot;Incompetence&quot;. It is blatant, outright, in your face THIEVERY!!!!!!! The biggest heist in history is taking place right now. Right in front of our eyes. Don&#039;t like it? Tough Shit! Whatcha gonna do about it?!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate it when they call this crap &#8220;Incompetence&#8221;. It is blatant, outright, in your face THIEVERY!!!!!!! The biggest heist in history is taking place right now. Right in front of our eyes. Don&#8217;t like it? Tough Shit! Whatcha gonna do about it?!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5346350', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Mark701</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark701</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 20:36:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And the market is still sinking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And the market is still sinking.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5346310', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: LividLib</title>
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		<dc:creator>LividLib</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 20:24:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>stateofthedivision Says: 

&lt;em&gt;&quot;CNBC updated their total. It’s now $4.284 trillion.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

if my math is correct, that&#039;s about $14,000 for every man, woman and child in the good ol&#039; USofA.

i think i&#039;m going to be sick.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>stateofthedivision Says: </p>
<p><em>&#8220;CNBC updated their total. It’s now $4.284 trillion.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>if my math is correct, that&#8217;s about $14,000 for every man, woman and child in the good ol&#8217; USofA.</p>
<p>i think i&#8217;m going to be sick.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5346282', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Stupid Git</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stupid Git</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 19:38:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jackie,

It&#039;s too bad impeachment is still off the table. For that alone the Democratic leadership should be impeached as well. Add to that their zeal in shoveling our money to any Fortune 500 company in need and they should be tried for treason. 

Damn this two party system to hell. This is why I voted for Cynthia McKinney for president. I want to see real change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jackie,</p>
<p>It&#8217;s too bad impeachment is still off the table. For that alone the Democratic leadership should be impeached as well. Add to that their zeal in shoveling our money to any Fortune 500 company in need and they should be tried for treason. </p>
<p>Damn this two party system to hell. This is why I voted for Cynthia McKinney for president. I want to see real change.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5346132', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Stupid Git</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stupid Git</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 19:35:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...but we can&#039;t afford Social Security and Universal Healthcare? 

Damn, if only my health was traded on the Stock Exchange.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;but we can&#8217;t afford Social Security and Universal Healthcare? </p>
<p>Damn, if only my health was traded on the Stock Exchange.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5346120', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Keith H.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keith H.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 19:21:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know what your sayin&#039; Fred.
A good example of what one of my people did was:
There was a full height freezer absolutely full of freshly frozen beef and pork. Someone didn&#039;t know it was full of meat and unplugged it. It went for a number of days in the middle of summer in an old out-building without anyone knowing it had been unplugged. As you can imagine the meat had thawed and was rotten enough that it had began to really smell. My family member could not waste any of the meat even in it&#039;s basically rotten state. So, they did what they knew how to do, which was soak the meat in some kind of vinegar solution and re-freeze it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know what your sayin&#8217; Fred.<br />
A good example of what one of my people did was:<br />
There was a full height freezer absolutely full of freshly frozen beef and pork. Someone didn&#8217;t know it was full of meat and unplugged it. It went for a number of days in the middle of summer in an old out-building without anyone knowing it had been unplugged. As you can imagine the meat had thawed and was rotten enough that it had began to really smell. My family member could not waste any of the meat even in it&#8217;s basically rotten state. So, they did what they knew how to do, which was soak the meat in some kind of vinegar solution and re-freeze it.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5346088', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: stateofthedivision</title>
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		<dc:creator>stateofthedivision</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 19:19:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CNBC updated their total.  It&#039;s now $4.284 trillion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CNBC updated their total.  It&#8217;s now $4.284 trillion.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5346084', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: AlphaLiberal</title>
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		<dc:creator>AlphaLiberal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 18:46:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. That&#039;s a stunning amount. And how much has been skimmed off the top by Bush-Cheney cronies?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. That&#8217;s a stunning amount. And how much has been skimmed off the top by Bush-Cheney cronies?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5346008', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: sacopenapa</title>
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		<dc:creator>sacopenapa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 18:36:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Today&#039;s DEMOCRACYNOW has an excellent report on the bailing out of the banks. It is CRIMINAL, and nobody, including the Democrats are not doing anything about it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today&#8217;s DEMOCRACYNOW has an excellent report on the bailing out of the banks. It is CRIMINAL, and nobody, including the Democrats are not doing anything about it!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5345976', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Jackie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jackie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 18:33:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Bush Administration will lie and steal until the end. Look Americans aren&#039;t yelling or stopping this their setting back waiting until Jan 20th. It is funny how the demand is for Obama to help Americans while Bush is free to continue to steal. Even Republicans are saying Obama isn&#039;t doing anything to help the American people while the Media does little to say about how the Bush Administration is openly stealing as much as they can. Ameericans voted for a President and we have the power to kick Bush out now but wont do it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Bush Administration will lie and steal until the end. Look Americans aren&#8217;t yelling or stopping this their setting back waiting until Jan 20th. It is funny how the demand is for Obama to help Americans while Bush is free to continue to steal. Even Republicans are saying Obama isn&#8217;t doing anything to help the American people while the Media does little to say about how the Bush Administration is openly stealing as much as they can. Ameericans voted for a President and we have the power to kick Bush out now but wont do it.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5345968', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Fred</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 18:24:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Keith H. Says: 
48 Fred. I grew up around people that lived through and never recovered mentally/emotionally from the depression. It affected their lives till they died of old age.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Me to Keith, my grandparents would be aghast of the waste inherent in daily life in America today.

They kept a garden, chickens and cattle well past time when it was a necessity......they were afraid of not having enough to eat......do Americans really understand that?  I don&#039;t think so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Keith H. Says:<br />
48 Fred. I grew up around people that lived through and never recovered mentally/emotionally from the depression. It affected their lives till they died of old age.</p></blockquote>
<p>Me to Keith, my grandparents would be aghast of the waste inherent in daily life in America today.</p>
<p>They kept a garden, chickens and cattle well past time when it was a necessity&#8230;&#8230;they were afraid of not having enough to eat&#8230;&#8230;do Americans really understand that?  I don&#8217;t think so.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5345932', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Bilbo Hussein Baggins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bilbo Hussein Baggins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 18:20:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Chocolate Jesus Says:
&gt;Who will bail out America when we go broke ??
China will buy us.&lt;/em&gt;

They don&#039;t need to buy us, they already own us.  Practically the entire amount spent on the Iraq debacle has been borrowed from China.  If China called in all it&#039;s debts tomorrow, it would be over for this country.  Fortunately they need us to keep buying their cheap goods, so they won&#039;t do that now.  But who knows what they will do down the road.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Chocolate Jesus Says:<br />
&gt;Who will bail out America when we go broke ??<br />
China will buy us.</em></p>
<p>They don&#8217;t need to buy us, they already own us.  Practically the entire amount spent on the Iraq debacle has been borrowed from China.  If China called in all it&#8217;s debts tomorrow, it would be over for this country.  Fortunately they need us to keep buying their cheap goods, so they won&#8217;t do that now.  But who knows what they will do down the road.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5345920', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Keith H.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keith H.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 18:17:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t however, hear stories of the deer population being hunted out in (what was then) our area. Wouldn&#039;t surprise me though. Stands to reason, really.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t however, hear stories of the deer population being hunted out in (what was then) our area. Wouldn&#8217;t surprise me though. Stands to reason, really.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5345916', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Keith H.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keith H.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 18:15:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>48 Fred. I grew up around people that lived through and never recovered mentally/emotionally from the depression. It affected their lives till they died of old age.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>48 Fred. I grew up around people that lived through and never recovered mentally/emotionally from the depression. It affected their lives till they died of old age.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5345912', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: shoeless</title>
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		<dc:creator>shoeless</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 18:11:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RR still thinks the Iraq War and reconstruction paid for itself. That is what his authoritarian idols told him would happen. So, in his deluded mind, it did.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.defenselink.mil/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=28388&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Bulk of Iraq Reconstruction Monies &#039;Will Come From Iraqis,&#039; Rumsfeld Says&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

WASHINGTON, Oct. 2, 2003 – The American taxpayer will not have to foot the entire bill for rebuilding post-Saddam Iraq, Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld said here today. 
The $20 billion for Iraqi security and reconstruction contained within President Bush&#039;s $87 billion supplemental budget proposal for fiscal 2004 now before Congress &quot;is not intended to cover all of Iraq&#039;s needs,&quot; Rumsfeld noted to reporters at a Pentagon press conference. 

&quot;The bulk of the funds for Iraq&#039;s reconstruction will come from Iraqis,&quot; explained Rumsfeld, who was accompanied at the briefing by Air Force Gen. Richard B. Myers, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. 

Iraqis will pay for the rebuilding of their country, the defense secretary noted, through oil revenues, recovered assets, international trade, direct foreign investments and contributions from the international community.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RR still thinks the Iraq War and reconstruction paid for itself. That is what his authoritarian idols told him would happen. So, in his deluded mind, it did.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.defenselink.mil/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=28388" rel="nofollow"><strong>Bulk of Iraq Reconstruction Monies &#8216;Will Come From Iraqis,&#8217; Rumsfeld Says</strong></a></p>
<p>WASHINGTON, Oct. 2, 2003 – The American taxpayer will not have to foot the entire bill for rebuilding post-Saddam Iraq, Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld said here today.<br />
The $20 billion for Iraqi security and reconstruction contained within President Bush&#8217;s $87 billion supplemental budget proposal for fiscal 2004 now before Congress &#8220;is not intended to cover all of Iraq&#8217;s needs,&#8221; Rumsfeld noted to reporters at a Pentagon press conference. </p>
<p>&#8220;The bulk of the funds for Iraq&#8217;s reconstruction will come from Iraqis,&#8221; explained Rumsfeld, who was accompanied at the briefing by Air Force Gen. Richard B. Myers, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. </p>
<p>Iraqis will pay for the rebuilding of their country, the defense secretary noted, through oil revenues, recovered assets, international trade, direct foreign investments and contributions from the international community.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5345902', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: RUCerious</title>
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		<dc:creator>RUCerious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 18:07:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rupture Reddy, you really could get a clue. Our Iraqi &#039;friends&#039; hate our guts. How would you feel if the Argentinians invaded us to save us from president Obama?
You&#039;d really be OK with that, wouldn&#039;t you? And a five year occupation to prevent Xian fanatics like yourself from blowing themselves up to protest the secular government?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rupture Reddy, you really could get a clue. Our Iraqi &#8216;friends&#8217; hate our guts. How would you feel if the Argentinians invaded us to save us from president Obama?<br />
You&#8217;d really be OK with that, wouldn&#8217;t you? And a five year occupation to prevent Xian fanatics like yourself from blowing themselves up to protest the secular government?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5345894', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Fred</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 18:06:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Keith H. Says: 
Buy some ammo for the huntin’ rifle cause I will be poachin’ me some deer to feed the youngsters.&lt;/blockquote&gt;


Keith, you must be young.  I can remember the older folks who lived through the 29+ depression talking about the wooded areas where we live.....and it is rural and in those days sparsley populated, being hunted out.

Entire species of animals had to be re-introduced in the years after the depression because they had hunted them out of existance........

Our area is much more populated now so it won&#039;t take long before we are eating sourcrout sandwiches.  Meat, unless you like crow will not be on the menu.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Keith H. Says:<br />
Buy some ammo for the huntin’ rifle cause I will be poachin’ me some deer to feed the youngsters.</p></blockquote>
<p>Keith, you must be young.  I can remember the older folks who lived through the 29+ depression talking about the wooded areas where we live&#8230;..and it is rural and in those days sparsley populated, being hunted out.</p>
<p>Entire species of animals had to be re-introduced in the years after the depression because they had hunted them out of existance&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
<p>Our area is much more populated now so it won&#8217;t take long before we are eating sourcrout sandwiches.  Meat, unless you like crow will not be on the menu.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5345890', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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