ACLU suit alleges U.S. used foreign nations to hold terror suspects without charges.
ACLU suit alleges U.S. used foreign nations to hold terror suspects without charges.
The ACLU is today filing a suit alleging that the Bush administration has asked other nations to hold terrorism suspects whom the U.S. had not yet charged. The ACLU cites the case of Naji Hamdan, an American Muslim, who has been held for nearly three months in the United Arab Emirates “without charges, access to a lawyer or contact with his family.” Said an ACLU spokesperson:
If the U.S. government is responsible for this detention and we believe it is, this is clearly illegal because our government can’t contract away the Constitution by enlisting the aid of other governments that do not adhere to the Constitution’s requirements.
According to Hamdan’s wife, he “was ‘slapped‘ while being interrogated for four days, during which he was accused alternatively of being an al Qaida member or working for Israeli or U.S. intelligence.”
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November 18th, 2008 at 2:24 pmoh, i didn’t know that western operatives couldn’t work for al-Queda and u. s. intelligence at the same time… Seems like a lot of the Bush gangster regime’s actions are aimed at destroying our American economy, just what the al-Queda doctor ordered, no?
November 18th, 2008 at 2:24 pmObama is going to close Gitmo.
We need to review each of these detainees being held overseas, though. Torturing in Egypt or anywhere is still torture. Hamdan is a prime example of the Bush Doctrine’s torture support.
I have a felling the ACLU is going to be very busy the next 4 years.
November 18th, 2008 at 2:27 pm“The Borgen Project has some good info on the cost of addressing global poverty.
November 18th, 2008 at 2:28 pm$30 billion: Annual shortfall to end world hunger.
$540 billion: Annual U.S. Defense Budget.”
“…he was accused alternatively of being an al Qaida member or working for Israeli or U.S. intelligence.””
Birds of a feather…
November 18th, 2008 at 2:29 pmReich-wingers like Bush/Cheney don’t care about the U.S. Constitution. After all, all they did was place their hand on a Bible and swear to uphold and defend it. That obviously means nothing to them.
November 18th, 2008 at 2:36 pmThere is so much proof, documents and testimoney to these crimes only the United Nations can handle it. We have even tortured, raped and killed woman/children during Bush’s War. Some lived to tell their horror othes are dead. The US can’t be trusted to handle these matters as it’s still inbedded with corrupt Law Makers. Some family members were kidnapped by the US and never heard from again.
November 18th, 2008 at 2:36 pmI love the ACLU.
November 18th, 2008 at 2:37 pm#6. Remember it was Chimpy McFlightsuit himself who said the Constitution was “just a god-damned piece of paper.”
November 18th, 2008 at 2:37 pmGee, yet another item for this administration to be investigated over.
November 18th, 2008 at 2:43 pmObama’s going to close Gitmo?…don’t you think we better wait until we hear what Joe says about that!!!
November 18th, 2008 at 2:46 pmIt’s very indicative of a nation when the ACLU is working overtime, but the press freedom ranking puts America at # 41 in the world…behind South Africa and Ghana.
(and let’s not forget, #37 in health care- *whee*)
Christ, together with an idiotic & spine-free congress and a president-elect who isn’t interested in prosecuting the biggest war crimes in US history, America is circling the drain.
Change my @$$!
November 18th, 2008 at 2:53 pmThere is so much dirt. And both sides were, at least, commplacent in part of it.
An investigation from within the US govt is inherrently tainted.
We need an independent body to review this. I wonder what the Hague is doing this year .
November 18th, 2008 at 3:00 pmAll you ADHD ranters need to take a deep breath. We still have over 2 months before Obama is in office.
Patience is a virtue…shouting is just annoying.
November 18th, 2008 at 3:01 pmWhy would Obama appoint a man who defended extraordinary rendition and torture on PBS on the news hour to his transition team on intelligence ?
November 18th, 2008 at 3:02 pmhttp://www.democracynow.org/2008/11/17/obama_taps_ex_cia_officials_tied
How many hundreds have these WAR CRIMINALS done this to?
How many have they just “Disappeared”?
Why have 108 detainees in Afgan and Iraqi prison sites died or beaten to death?
Why is Bush and Cheney not impeached and not rotting in prison right now?
Because we have become an immoral rouge state, maybe?
November 18th, 2008 at 3:04 pmZimzone ,
November 18th, 2008 at 3:08 pmSome things are worth shouting about , and sometimes patience is not a virtue .
What exactly would be the down side to holding our democratic leaders feet to the fire , the election is over ?
freeman Says:
Why would Obama appoint a man who defended extraordinary rendition and torture on PBS on the news hour to his transition team on intelligence ?
So what you are saying is that if Obama appoints someone to a position, that means that he agrees with everything that person has ever said or done? Isn’t that a little like saying that Obama is responsible for everyone he has ever associated with?
Is it impossible for you to withhold judgment until Obama does something that is worth criticizing?
November 18th, 2008 at 3:21 pmfreeman Says:
Zimzone ,
Some things are worth shouting about , and sometimes patience is not a virtue .
What exactly would be the down side to holding our democratic leaders feet to the fire , the election is over ?
Because aside from allowing LIEberman to blackmail them, Obama and the Democrats haven’t DONE ANYTHING to hold their feet to the fire over. You obviously aren’t willing to let them make a mistake before criticizing them. What is that going to accomplish?
November 18th, 2008 at 3:23 pmI’m trying to be patient and give the new administration, after Barack is inaugerated, a chance to prove the “change” mantra. There have been worrisome signs. For me, civil liberties and the protection of the U.S. Constitution are paramount. The rubber will meet the road for me on the below issue, because it looks like it will be an early decision.
WASHINGTON — President-elect Barack Obama will face a series of early decisions on domestic spying that will test his administration’s views on presidential power and civil liberties.
A court has ordered the government to turn over information on any federal eavesdropping conducted in the case of Ali al-Timimi, center, who was convicted of supporting terrorism.
The Justice Department will be asked to respond to motions in legal challenges to the National Security Agency’s wiretapping program, and must decide whether to continue the tactics used by the Bush administration — which has used broad claims of national security and “state secrets” to try to derail the challenges — or instead agree to disclose publicly more information about how the program was run.
When he takes office, Mr. Obama will inherit greater power in domestic spying power than any other new president in more than 30 years, but he may find himself in an awkward position as he weighs how to wield it. As a presidential candidate, he condemned the N.S.A. operation as illegal, and threatened to filibuster a bill that would grant the government expanded surveillance powers and provide immunity to phone companies that helped in the Bush administration’s program of wiretapping without warrants. But Mr. Obama switched positions and ultimately supported the measure in the Senate, angering liberal supporters who accused him of bowing to pressure from the right.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/18/washington/18nsa.html?_r=1
November 18th, 2008 at 3:31 pmI have for a long time now seriously wondered what the purpose of the torture and the holding without charges is.
November 18th, 2008 at 3:32 pmI can’t make any sense out of it. It’s almost like the life of their ‘war on terrah’ wet-dream hangs in the balance.
I disagree Bilbo , Obama has made some very troubling moves since winning the election and he and the democratic party in general should know that the people have awoken from their slumber .
November 18th, 2008 at 3:33 pmWill you defend his broken promise on FISA , his defence and support of Joe Lieberman ,his vote for off shore oil drilling and his vote for the bailout ? His appointment of Rahm Emmanuel isn’t worth even discussing critically or the fact that the NY times ( i believe) said he will most likely expand domestic surveillance ?
Have you looked at the links from democracy now on detention centers or his intelligence transition team that I posted on todays earlier threads ?
#9 Curlew, Yes. Just one more thing for those “value” voters to ignore.
November 18th, 2008 at 3:55 pmImagine how many fewer hungry people there would be if Diana9 spent more time making sanwiches and less time posting the exact same post.
November 18th, 2008 at 4:59 pm.
Be it one person or millions of people, illegal is illegal!
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November 19th, 2008 at 2:34 am