Summoning the mythical boogeyman of the Fairness Doctrine — which would require broadcasters to provide a variety of political views on publicly-owned airwaves — Fox News host Bill O’Reilly warned last night that House Speaker Nancy Pelosi “wants total control” over radio airwaves and would seek to reinstate the policy. He claimed that the media features far more liberal voices than conservative, citing newspapers, NPR, and…the Internet:
O’REILLY: A good case can be made there are more liberal voices in the media than conservative voices. The newspaper industry is certainly left. So is the Internet. NBC News almost completely liberal. So is PBS, so is NPR.
Watch it:
Just seconds later, O’Reilly contradicted his fearmongering: “The good news is the Fairness Doctrine will never happen.”
o rly?
November 21st, 2008 at 1:31 pmSure Billo....there are thousands of right wing propaganda stations. It's time to balance out the playing field. Secondly, to many lies are being told without any debate which leaves half the story out of the conversation. "Terrorist fist jab" for example is not corrected by "that station"....this is where the fairness doctrain comes in.
November 21st, 2008 at 1:34 pmSo, then, by his logic, he should welcome the Fairness Doctrine so that it evened things out and put more conservative voices on the internet and airwaves.
Sorry O'Lielly, but your logic is anything but...
November 21st, 2008 at 1:35 pmO’Reilly: Internet has a well-known liberal bias.”
- - Oh, it's an entity unto itself?
November 21st, 2008 at 1:35 pmOh, fer the luvva Jebus, Billo - GIVE IT A FREAKING REST, you moron!!!
Isn't there a War on Christmas to be fought - somewhere...??
November 21st, 2008 at 1:38 pm.
FOXPRAVDA has a well known Fascist bias.
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November 21st, 2008 at 1:38 pm.
Bill-doh O'Liely has a well known hate filled bias.
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November 21st, 2008 at 1:38 pmSorry Billdo. It seems the Country has a liberal bias.
Maybe your BFF KKKarl Rove had something relevant when he stated:
“As people do better, they start voting like Republicans - unless they have too much education and vote Democratic, which proves there can be too much of a good thing”
Unfortunately for O'Liely the peoples is learnin'.
November 21st, 2008 at 1:40 pmThe internet itself is not left.
The left is just much better at exploiting the internet.
November 21st, 2008 at 1:40 pmblah blah liberal bias blah blah war on christmas blah blah Clinton's fault blah blah surge worked blah blah gays rioting blah blah Obama putting US into recession blah blah
sigh
November 21st, 2008 at 1:41 pmSame shit different day. More appeals to the aggrieved feelings of neurotic narcissists who missed out on the sexual revolution.
November 21st, 2008 at 1:45 pm21 November 2008
Dear Mr. O'Reilly,
Truth has a liberal bias. If some bit of truth shows up on the Internets, then so be it. We all we know that you are just a pathetic right-wing lie-monger. Why don't you just shut up and crawl back under your rock.
Yours truly,
James K. Sayre
November 21st, 2008 at 1:46 pm(yawn) O'Really seems to be losing his edge. His paranoia is just boring now.
November 21st, 2008 at 1:47 pmDamn those liberals! heehee!
Maybe his daddy didn't hug him enough?
November 21st, 2008 at 1:48 pmI don't even mind the conservative bias of most screaming head shows, on TV or radio. I know what they are, and I know in advance. It's fine they push their side. My argument is with the lies, distortions, and attacks, along with the permaent, irrational and misplaced anger they propogate.
http://www.BusterGetMyPills.com
November 21st, 2008 at 1:49 pmFOX News shouldn't have anything to fear from a fairness doctrine, since they're already "fair and balanced." They even say so.
And the only reason you can claim that the Internet is "left" is because wingnuts have a hard time operating computers. From what I've seen on their sites, they're typically trying to work the keyboard with their forehead.
November 21st, 2008 at 1:51 pmAs referenced in earlier posts, if the news media truly has a left-leaning bias, why isn't Falafel Guy out front and center, replete with megaphone and pompoms, cheering for a resurrection of the Fairness Doctrine?
If Billo is to be believed, the Libruls who are advocating for a return to the Fairness Doctrine are hurtling toward the edge of a cliff, and O'Lie-ly is actually trying to save them from themselves.
In addition, if GWB (whose resume includes experience as a cheerleader) actually vacates his office, he could lend his unused political capitol to the effort.
So, how long after hell freezes over might we anticipate seeing this?
November 21st, 2008 at 1:52 pmIf the internet has a liberal bias, I think it's safe to assume that reality does too. Think about how many people in this country write something on the Internet at this point. Millions upon millions.
Unless he just means some random subsector of the Internet that fits his argument.
November 21st, 2008 at 1:53 pm- - O'Reilly is Factose Intolerant.
November 21st, 2008 at 1:53 pmAlso, several of the things he cites aren't even public. No one is forcing NBC or Fox to have some sort of conservative to liberal ratio. I think it's a good thing for public outlets to cover multiple angles and I'm not sure why that's bad.
If it was the other way around he'd think it was the best thing ever, as already noted.
November 21st, 2008 at 1:55 pminternet = people
November 21st, 2008 at 1:55 pmWho needs fairness when media unfairness has served the nation so well for the last dozen or so years?
November 21st, 2008 at 1:56 pmIt sounds as if O'Reilly's definition of "liberal" is "anything not conspicuously tilted to the right".
He claims that the newspaper industry is "certainly left". That must be news to the New York Post, the Washington Times, the Wall Street Journal, any of the Hearst papers, etc. And even newspapers considered by the right to be "leftist papers" still have people like Bill Kristol on their payroll.
He claims that the internet is "left". And offers no justification for that whatsoever. There are plenty of blogs and forums on the internet representing both sides (and even third and fourth sides).
He claims that NBC News is completely liberal. Brian Williams is liberal? That's news to me. Perhaps he's thinking of MSNBC, where Keith Olbermann and Rachel Maddow definitely skew left, but Chris Matthews, David Gregory, Morning Joe, etc. do not (even if the right wingers think they do). And if it's a leftist haven, what's Pat Buchanan doing there? I don't see ANYBODY on Fox News that's as liberal as Pat is conservative.
PBS and NPR present a wide variety of views. They have the freedom to do this because they aren't beholden to corporate advertising for their existence. Because they don't have to run their programming through that kind of filter, I can see how this could appear "leftist" when compared to other media that do.
And what about ABC News and CBS News? Can we hear about the "lefty" qualifications of Charlie Gibson and Katie Couric?
Don't even get me started on CNN.
And, of course, there's Comedy Central. But you're really scraping the bottom of the barrel when you claim that the media is skewed left because of a fake news show and a fake pundit show.
O'Reilly is just another in a long line of wingnuts who decry the "liberal media" without giving any actual evidence that it's so (and no, just saying "liberal media liberal media liberal media liberal media liberal media liberal media" doesn't count).
November 21st, 2008 at 1:57 pmTo quote some hippy-dippy, librul blogger from one of the librully biased Internet Tubes:
"Teh Stupid! It burns!"
November 21st, 2008 at 1:58 pmNow, doesn't Faux Noose already adhere to the Fairness Doctrine? After all, they counterbalance Hannity with Coombs (who is to Hannity what the Washington Generals are to the Harlem Globetrotters).
November 21st, 2008 at 1:58 pmThese clowns would not be so scared, because they know what they are doing is wrong!!! What if I got on the air calling billo a pinhead terrorist who flys the confederate flag from his million dollar mansion who has gay sex with Rush and Hanity while Laura video tapes it? How long before I got sued for slander? Bill o and the wingnuts are nothing, why do we give these idiots any attention?
November 21st, 2008 at 1:59 pmThis moron knows he's lying through his teeth. If he wasn't, he'd be all for the Fairness Doctrine since there's such a liberal bias.
November 21st, 2008 at 1:59 pmYou'd think that the conservatives would WANT the fairness doctrine, because the media is apparently so liberal. The fact that they don't suggests that they KNOW that it is a myth.
November 21st, 2008 at 1:59 pmSo the delicious irony of Colbert saying that "reality has a liberal bias", is completly lost on Papa Bear. Color my azz shocked!
November 21st, 2008 at 2:00 pmI didn't think it would actually happen, but people like O'Reilly are inching closer and closer to, yes, proclaiming that Reality has a well-known liberal bias.
This is just sad...
November 21st, 2008 at 2:02 pmSo does reality, but that doesn't stop the falafel from spewing his wingnuttery...
November 21st, 2008 at 2:03 pmOk, truth has a well-known liberal bias and the internet, for the most part, is about the truth. So it stands to reason that the internet has a liberal bias.
Bill is full of BS when he says that newspapers are liberal. The only newspapers that come remotely close to liberal are the McClatchy newspapers. The rest are decidedly conservative in their reporting and opinions.
I am very happy that we have the internet. I'm not sure Obama would have won this election if it were not for the Internet. The MSM was doing a pretty good job of controlling the message and pushing the conservative point of view until the internet started exposing their lies and half truths. Once the truth took hold on the internet, the MSM then had no way to avoid reporting on that truth and still remain relevant.
Here's to the MSM becoming irrelevant!
November 21st, 2008 at 2:03 pmI guess the Internet has a liberal bias, just like "reality has a liberal bias". (Colbert)
November 21st, 2008 at 2:05 pmThe blowhard is worried about his job. If he can't lie and spin he will crash.
November 21st, 2008 at 2:10 pm“The good news is the Fairness Doctrine will never happen.”
I can't wait for Billo's head to implode.
November 21st, 2008 at 2:14 pmAll this means is that the more progressive-leaning (liberal) folks are more technically curious and actually want to research and find the information so they can make an informed decision.
November 21st, 2008 at 2:14 pmWhile the "other side" would prefer to be told what to believe and not have to go through all that research stuff and have more time to watch Reality shows and pro reslin'
The right has marched soooo far off the extreme end of the right wing that everything else looks super-far left to them. We didn't go anywhere. They did.
Pretty much anything that isn't extremeist far-right-wing looks "librul" to these crackpots.
November 21st, 2008 at 2:14 pmSo if the media is so blatantly liberal (according to the loofah king) then he should welcome the Fairness Doctine to level the playing field.
November 21st, 2008 at 2:15 pmThanks for the heads up Bill-O. I will try to remember all of this liberal bias when I see David Brooks on PBS, hear David Frum and that annoying bozo from the Cato Institute on NPR and when I notice how many newspapers your parent company, News Corp owns.
November 21st, 2008 at 2:17 pmSaying it doesn't make it so BillO. Where is your evidence?
November 21st, 2008 at 2:19 pmInstead of renewing the Fairness Doctrine, why not just get rid of the laws/regulations that are currently prohibiting the the airing of liberal views on radio. That way, everyone has the right to air their views and the government doesn't force stations to air programs that can't survive on their merits.
November 21st, 2008 at 2:20 pmLet's say we believe Bill when he says "there are more liberal voices" (which I don't), the right would still have the advantage because their voices are so iratatingly louder.
November 21st, 2008 at 2:21 pmI'm PROUD to be a liberal bogey man! LMAO!!!
November 21st, 2008 at 2:22 pmNow that Ted Stevens is unemployed Bill-o can put him in charge of the 'series of tubes' to ensure they are fair and balanced.
November 21st, 2008 at 2:27 pmJust seconds later, O’Reilly contradicted his fearmongering: “The good news is the Fairness Doctrine will never happen.”
That's because O'Reilly understands the game. It's his team's job to hype up stupid, non-existent threats, then take credit for their not coming to pass. Iraq has scary weapons of mass destruction - but we'll keep you safe! The liberals want to ban Christmas - but we'll defend it! The liberals are going to ban conservative radio & TV - but we'll fight them!
November 21st, 2008 at 2:29 pmFirst, I don't think you know what you are talking about as far as laws prohibiiting airing of liberal views.....can you back that up.
Second, We don't know whether liberal views can survive or not in a fair competetitive market because the corps who own the stations are owned by right wingers who use the air waves to push thier agenda........because there is no law against it.
That should soon change and then when everyone gets to hear both sides of an issue guess who's going to wind up looking foolish.....orily and the rest of the liars, that's who.
Simple, if you get called on your lies, you can't back them up......and it's open and public.....righties are exposed for the liars that they are.
November 21st, 2008 at 2:30 pmNot shocking... more 'liberal' people are educated enough yo USE the interwebs and can actually afford internet access, than the conservative fearmongers and idiots like Joe The Plumber.
November 21st, 2008 at 2:33 pmThe media is so liberal that 2 weeks before the election
25% of the people in Texas still thought that Obama was a Muslim.
And how many republicans think that the first thing Obama
is going to do is take away their guns?
"Be afraid because there is nothing to be afraid of"(Bill O)
November 21st, 2008 at 2:36 pmYes O'Rally... it called DEMOCRACY!
November 21st, 2008 at 2:40 pm______
Fred Says:
"...because there is no law against it."
November 21st, 2008 at 2:30 pm
Exactly. If it could sustain an audience, and ad dollars, it would be there. The companies are about the bottom line. They source of the money doesn't matter to them, as evidenced by the filthy and/or mind-numbing "programming" on television.
November 21st, 2008 at 2:43 pmI meant:
November 21st, 2008 at 2:43 pmYes O'Rally... it is called DEMOCRACY! Wherever and whenever, in the USA, in IRAN, in China or Alaska, when people get together and have a place of saying and discuss what matters, you get a liberal space. Humans are incredibily similar in their way of living, loving, and being! Governments don't.
Breaking News:
Bill O'Reilly has just kidnapped Santa Claus. In his on-going battles in the "War On Christmas", O'Reilly has captured Santa and declared him a liberal Christmas terrorist. O'Reilly alleges that St. Nick has abandoned his time-honored tradition of giving presents to the "nice" and lumps of coal to the "naughty" in capitulation to the liberal notion of fairness. The FOX pundit also demands that the jolly old elf stop coddling the elves by paying them above minimum wage, arguing that they are half sized so they should receive half sized paychecks. Finally, O'Reilly insists that the liberal media discontinue their support of Santa during this time of year, declaring him "nothing more than a fat liberal with another give-away program".
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Not shocking… more ‘liberal’ people are educated enough yo USE the interwebs and can actually afford internet access, than the conservative fearmongers and idiots like Joe The Plumber.
November 21st, 2008 at 2:33 pm
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Not shocking... more conservative people spend more of their time working and out enjoying life than in front of a computer spewing hatred. ;)
November 21st, 2008 at 2:49 pmIt's because Liberals can write, doofus! I mean seriously, have you read some of the driveling sh!t the Freepers write? Not even they want to read it.
November 21st, 2008 at 2:51 pmBullshit....bottom line has nothing to do with it. This is a simple expense to pay for their propaganda.
I'm telling you right now that if both views were allowed to be aired that the right would go down in flames in a competive market where it is not about putting your agenda first as it is for companies now.......thus you only hear what they want you to hear.
You know it or you wouldn't be pushing this foolishness. I guess you also think the media is left leaning....how would you rectify that in your special reality?
November 21st, 2008 at 2:53 pmOn WHAT exactly does he base these opinions? What research has he done or read that backs up his claim?
BillO is doing what good right-wing propagandists do: LIE.
Almost all print media nowadays is corporately-owned. Few if any of those are "liberal" in any meaningful sense of the word. As far as the Internet goes, it's s bit more complicated since there are lots more self-publishers (blogs, personal websites, comment threads on articles, blog posts, etc.) online than in print. Also, liberals adopted the Internet more quickly than did conservatives. MoveOn.org, for example, has been around for about a decade. The neoconservative counterpart was launched only within the past couple of weeks.
I think that BillO's and the chorus of right-wing talkers are upset that reality and truth have a liberal bias. Maybe when newspapers and magazines, etc. publish factually correct information it is seen as being "liberal".
November 21st, 2008 at 2:56 pmYou just said the most hateful thing I've heard today......you are an insolent fool.
November 21st, 2008 at 2:56 pmNewspapers are extremely conservative across the board.
Although journalists when polled tend to have more people on the center left (about the same as most professional classes requiring a college degree), the editors and publishers of most every major daily across the country are very right wing. And they're the ones who get to make the decisions.
For just about anybody living in any city across the U.S, the major daily newspaper for the local area almost always skews solidly to the right in its choices of what to cover, its layout and headline selections, and editorial opinions.
It's only in cities that are large enough to have more than one major daily paper that you see any of them skewing to the left at all.
Also, all y'all finger-pointing people in here need to put your fingers away. We hates them and they hates us, so let's quit wasting precious electons about who's more hateful.
November 21st, 2008 at 3:16 pmupright left Says:
Not shocking… more conservative people spend more of their time working and out enjoying life than in front of a computer spewing hatred. ;)
ROTFL!!! You and the entire brigade of wingnut propagandists that spew hate on liberal and conservative sites alike disprove this theory. Then again, why would someone that believes the earth is 8,000 year old care about FACTS when making wildly false blanket statements ;) Conservatives work less by the way TARD, it's why Conservative states have LOWER worker productivity, lower incomes and lower levels of education. You prove nicely why curing ignorance and mental illness will go a long way of curing conservatism ;)
November 21st, 2008 at 3:30 pmI guess, using this market-based logic, all of the "left-leaning" newspapers and TV networks are the result of the same market forces, right? In other words, they are left (as the Right sees it) because they respond to the marketplace, and the marketplace wants liberal views in those media.
November 21st, 2008 at 3:38 pmA very non-scientific attempt to inject some data to the debate on the "liberalness" of the Internets:
Googling "liberal blogs" gets 1,400,000 hits.
Googling "conservative blogs" gets 693,000 hits.
For whatever that is worth.
November 21st, 2008 at 3:40 pmralph the wonder llama Says:
I guess, using this market-based logic, all of the “left-leaning” newspapers and TV networks are the result of the same market forces, right? In other words, they are left (as the Right sees it) because they respond to the marketplace, and the marketplace wants liberal views in those media.
True to a point, O Llama, but it seems every day brings news of plummeting newspaper circulation and Draconian cuts to print media staff. Likewise, the 3 free networks are the source of news for an all time low percent of the public.
Obvioulsy the Internet and Cable are mainly responsible for this, but your assertion opens to the door to a suggestion that the reverse is true, or at least trending that way.
November 21st, 2008 at 3:44 pmIn the words of dick cheney when asked what he thought about 4,000 dead U.S. soldiers in Iraq...."So?"
November 21st, 2008 at 3:45 pmFred Says:
upright left Says:Not shocking… more conservative people spend more of their time working and out enjoying life than in front of a computer spewing hatred. ;)
You just said the most hateful thing I’ve heard today……you are an insolent fool.
Tool may be a better descriptor, Fred. The wingnuts I'm burdened knowing have little interest in outdoor activities. They spend hours per day on accounting software, due to the fact they're all quite paranoid about their fortunes.
They may pay to see athletic competition, but few of them played the game themselves. (Can't get hurt, you know, it may cut into my income!) Running for office is the only 'workout' many of them can perform.
But, the biggest difference between progressives and wingnuts is they love to lie. Oh yeah! Look at Limpballs, Insannity, Savage, Billdo, et al. If they didn't offer up a generous helping of lies daily, they'd run out of message in a minute.
upright left is a downtrodden rightie...
November 21st, 2008 at 3:46 pmOkay so let's see now. Entertainment, education, labor, media, and now the Internet. Just what are conservatives good at? Why do they keep getting out competed? Seems that invisible hand is the left one eh?
November 21st, 2008 at 3:46 pmIf top-heavy neocon talk radio news stations had to abide by the Fairness Doctrine, their listeners would burn those stations to the ground to prevent the equal time the Democrats would get from ever happening.
The right fears equal time by a margin of 100-to-1 on a good day.
November 21st, 2008 at 3:47 pmShouldn't he spend more time complaining about people wishing others happy holidays? I never get enough of that silly shit...
November 21st, 2008 at 3:47 pmThanks, Keltoi. I especially appreciate your acknowledgment with the caveat "For whatever that is worth" that it's not worth very much at all.
November 21st, 2008 at 3:48 pmIs it not odd how any article about Bill0 is guaranteed to draw a troll or two? Is the defense of Bill0 a requirement for membership in the club?
OT:
November 21st, 2008 at 3:52 pmHey dbadass. We've been building ice for a few days. It shouldn't be long till I get to indulge in Perch and/or Bluegills, deep fried with a little lemon/dill sauce.
notice how the caption behind him says "you can argue that there are more liberal voices..."
November 21st, 2008 at 3:52 pmhey assclown, you can also argue the world is flat but it don't make it so.
Interesting how you anlyze the trends in the supposedly liberal media but ignore the similar trends in the right-wing outlets.
Whatever, either market forces drive media content, as right-wingers insist when discussing talk radio (but ONLY talk radio), or the media environment is more complex than that.
It's highly unlikely that talk radio, alone among media formats, is the pure result of audience demand.
November 21st, 2008 at 3:53 pmThe most disturbing thing about the arguments over "media bias" is the apparent assumption that all media must have an overt slant. The old standard was an assumption that news was neutral and commentary was honest. Now?
A distressing number of media outlets make no distinction between news and commentary while the audience is moving to those who express a preferred stance.
November 21st, 2008 at 4:05 pmdbadass Says:
Shouldn’t he spend more time complaining about people wishing others happy holidays? I never get enough of that silly shit…
Billo carries a sock made to look like Santa's sack of toys, that's loaded with some Valencia oranges and bars of soap, so he can dish out his "humbugs" to anyone who wishes him a "Happy Holidays".
Bing Crosby would be proud of Billo...then he'd beat him like one of his kids.
November 21st, 2008 at 4:13 pmThere's only one possible thing left to say: IDIOT!!!!
November 21st, 2008 at 4:19 pmPaul Krugman wrote about Reality's liberal bias recently. I thought the Onion had a piece on it too, but no, it was Stephen Colbert's famous 2006 White House Correspondents Dinner, when he offered up the famous quip "Reality Has a Liberal Bias." Yep. Here's the thing: a tolerance for ambiguity and an ability "to entertain a thought without accepting it" (Aristotle) are marks of intellectual humility, a trait unknown to Billo the Bully.
November 21st, 2008 at 4:37 pmThe media overall has NEVER had a liberal bias. That was rightwing propaganda working the refs. The overall bias of the media reflects elite opinion and has a BUSINESS BIAS. I am a liberal and the media has NEVER pushed my point of view. The rightwing KNOWS they cant sell their agenda so they poison the well trying to convince their troglydite base that they are getting biased information from the media so they can ignore reality and live in the world of Limbaugh delusions
November 21st, 2008 at 4:49 pmHappy Holidays, Bill.
November 21st, 2008 at 4:58 pmBill and his ilk are fixated with this us against them mentality.
Its very dangerous.
November 21st, 2008 at 5:08 pmLet's give Bill-O the benefit of the doubt. The internet IS slanted towards those who can read.
November 21st, 2008 at 5:31 pmAs usual, O'Reilly applies no logic whatsoever to his words. Otherwise he would realize the following:
November 21st, 2008 at 6:05 pm1. The Fairness Doctrine would destroy that awful liberal bias he constantly harps about (making him a harpy...)
2. And Fox "news" will have no problem at all with a Fairness Doctrine, since they always show both sides of every issue in a completely fair & balanced way, according to O'Reilly & all the other Foc toadies.
So really, O'Reilly should be on one of his crusades to ensure the Fairness Doctrine is implemented.
oops Foc = Fox
November 21st, 2008 at 6:05 pmralph the wonder llama Says:
I guess, using this market-based logic, all of the “left-leaning” newspapers and TV networks are the result of the same market forces, right? In other words, they are left (as the Right sees it) because they respond to the marketplace, and the marketplace wants liberal views in those media.
November 21st, 2008 at 3:38 pm
November 21st, 2008 at 6:27 pm______
Absolutely the market supports the current newspapers and TV networks which represent a mix of left and right.
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Fred Says:
upright left Says:
Not shocking… more conservative people spend more of their time working and out enjoying life than in front of a computer spewing hatred. ;)
You just said the most hateful thing I’ve heard today……you are an insolent fool.
November 21st, 2008 at 2:56 pm
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Working and enjoying life is hateful in your view, Fred? ;)
November 21st, 2008 at 6:29 pmOh so the media is not left leaning now. Damn this gets confusing... Can't these people make up their minds?
November 21st, 2008 at 6:31 pmThen your position seems to be that, since newspapers and TV networks "represent a mix of left and right", then talk radio is the only forum which has a bias? And that bias is, of course, Rightward, correct?
November 21st, 2008 at 7:20 pmNot sure why this needs to be explained to you, Uptitghty, but the "hateful" part Fred was referring to was the "in front of a computer spewing hatred", not the more benign passage you chose to focus on.
And a winky-smiley emoticon doesn't really make that anf less obtuse.
November 21st, 2008 at 7:23 pmIs stupidity clever in your view upright? Is being a JERK like with that baseless assertion that liberals are more hateful on the internet? How would you know this is true. Peruse the entire net? Ever been to Littlegreenfootballs or Freerepublic? You are a liar and a jerk upright along with your ceaseless condescension and psuedopiety and your selfrighteous idiocy. You are a jerk. Do you think hostility is somehow moral when couched in the false maks of civility? Because for me I prefer the more honest strait forward in your face hostility. You know like calling you a JERK directly. Take your idiotic assertion about us liberals fold it till its all corners and deposit it where the sun never shines.
November 21st, 2008 at 8:57 pmO'Biley's intertubes have a dufus bias.
November 21st, 2008 at 9:00 pm______
EugeneDebs Says:
Take your idiotic assertion about us liberals fold it till its all corners and deposit it where the sun never shines.
November 21st, 2008 at 8:57 pm
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That was cute gene. ;)
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ralph the wonder llama Says:
Not sure why this needs to be explained to you, Uptitghty, but the “hateful” part Fred was referring to was the “in front of a computer spewing hatred”, not the more benign passage you chose to focus on.
November 21st, 2008 at 7:23 pm
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Yeah, I know, ralph. It's just the ridiculous nature of his comment, having seen another thread in which he posted. You know, the one where one lib told another to STFU because he disagreed with the poster's view.
November 21st, 2008 at 9:21 pm_______
Zimzone Says:
upright left is a downtrodden rightie…
November 21st, 2008 at 3:46 pm
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I'm downtrodden? Well cool! Then we needn't worry about the downtrodden anymore because they are doing pretty darn well!
That rightie thing is troublesome, though. You might have mentioned that before the election. Maybe I can take back my Dem votes, considering the circumstances.
November 21st, 2008 at 9:41 pmupright left Says:
Only my friends get to call me Gend YOU can call me MR Debs
November 22nd, 2008 at 12:37 amupright left Says:
I’m downtrodden? Well cool! Then we needn’t worry about the downtrodden anymore because they are doing pretty darn well!
That rightie thing is troublesome, though. You might have mentioned that before the election. Maybe I can take back my Dem votes, considering the circumstances.
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Just how important do you think you are to the left upright? Think we need you SO bad that we ought to put up with your condescending psuedopiety shoved in our faces all the time. Shove your vote. Do whatever you want with it. I think we will just struggle along and win some elecions without it. I dont care if I agree with you most of the time you are still a jerk.
Mr. Debs
November 22nd, 2008 at 12:42 am______
EugeneDebs Says:
Only my friends get to call me Gend YOU can call me MR Debs
November 22nd, 2008 at 12:37 am
EugeneDebs Says:
upright left Says:
I’m downtrodden? Well cool! Then we needn’t worry about the downtrodden anymore because they are doing pretty darn well!
That rightie thing is troublesome, though. You might have mentioned that before the election. Maybe I can take back my Dem votes, considering the circumstances.
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Just how important do you think you are to the left upright? Think we need you SO bad that we ought to put up with your condescending psuedopiety shoved in our faces all the time. Shove your vote. Do whatever you want with it. I think we will just struggle along and win some elecions without it. I dont care if I agree with you most of the time you are still a jerk.
Mr. Debs
November 22nd, 2008 at 12:42 am
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Wow, gene. Those posts just beg for a response, but they are so pitiful that I just can't do it. Why do you leave yourself open like that, bud? ;)
November 22nd, 2008 at 1:30 amUh, than don't respond. Oops it appears you already did...
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dbadass Says:
Uh, than don’t respond. Oops it appears you already did…
November 22nd, 2008 at 1:42 am
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But with great restraint and you know it.
November 22nd, 2008 at 1:58 am"But with great restraint and you know it."
I'll take your word for the first part but I must respectfully disagree with the second...
November 22nd, 2008 at 2:06 amZooey Says:
Happy Holidays, Bill.
Watch out, you might now find that St. Billo of Faux will bring you all his books on audio now.
He has to get rid of his inventory or he'll be taxed...and we all know he hates taxes now more than ever!!! Then again, crap CD's make for good coasters or gag gifts.
November 22nd, 2008 at 2:15 amIf you think you have the stuff upright then bring it on. I thought I was the one showing restraint. If you want a flamewar I am not going anywhere. IF you want to tell us why you feel so superior and OUGHT to be left alone to chastise us as if you were the room protocol moniter then do that. Who knows I might be convinced but I doubt it. So far I havent seen anything from you but an poor imitation of a schoolmarm
November 22nd, 2008 at 3:14 amIt is always something Billo has toverbally point at to hate, War on Christmas, Liberals, Democrats, Nerds wearing pajamas in their basements and on and on and on.
BillO feeds the inane with fear and hate.
November 22nd, 2008 at 3:58 amOh, the internet has a liberal bias, does it? Well, then, as it represents the US and the world population much better than Bill-O's inflated ego, I would have to say that the world at large has a "liberal bias". In other words, Bill-O is in the minority with his worldview.
Tough titties, Bill.
November 22nd, 2008 at 6:19 amBillo again catering to his ever-dwindling audience. Do a web search of Billo "debating" Jon Stewart on the Daily Show. Jon really owns him and proves to the world just how ridiculous Billo's "conservative" arguments really are.
P.S. When doing the web search, find the Daily show version as the O'Rielly Factor version edits out the best part.
November 22nd, 2008 at 12:19 pmP.S.S. "The internet has a well-known liberal bias." That's probably the stupidest thing I've ever heard! The internet is ANYTHING and EVERYTHING, EVERYONE and EVERYWHERE.
Remember Bill, ya gotta FOCUS. You can't prove anything with GENERALIZATIONS. Dummy!!
November 22nd, 2008 at 12:28 pmWhat!?
November 22nd, 2008 at 3:53 pmI completely agree with Bill O in this case. It has been reported that there are much more pro liberal web sites out there. It is just more common for people to be hearing pro liberal reports
Its ridiculous really. if liberal radio was a marketable product, it would be more prevelent, but it isn't. this is another way for pelosi and her mafia to regulate business. Its almost as if one product, red, and another, blue, are both sold by a corporation, but blue isn't selling as well so the company mandates that for every red product they sell, they have to sell a blue one too.
November 22nd, 2008 at 5:24 pmlibcon57
November 22nd, 2008 at 5:42 pmWho actually listens to am radio? I hardly think the last refuge of a market shows anything other than failure in the more marketable end of the market. So some goofballs listen to Rush etal, who cares?
libcon57 Says:
Pelosi isnt doing anything. You have been brainwashed and programmed to just spew out what you have been TOLD to regurgitate like the good little hiveminder you are. There are probably a couple of reasons lefty radio hasnt taken off. First us liberals arent really into letting others do our thinking for us like you clearly do. Secondly BUSINESS does the vast majority of advertising and it is a conservative base. This is why Jim Hightower was fired when he was killing in the ratings and Donahue was fired from MSNBC when he was the highest rated program on his network. Keep spewing out what your Limborg master told you to think though I can always use a laugh
November 22nd, 2008 at 5:56 pmThank you all for assuming,
1) that I listen to AM radio
2) that I do not think for myself
maybe lefties aren't for letting others think for them, but they sure do let others, i.e the gov't, do everything else for them.
and to dbadass, if nobody listens to AM as you say, why is it such a topic of left wing hate? and even so, why try to regulate it if its failing anyways? I think that maybe your leaders are keeping a secret about right wing media that they don't want you to know, or you just don't actually know what you're talking about.
November 23rd, 2008 at 12:08 amlibcon57 Says:
Thank you all for assuming,
1) that I listen to AM radio
2) that I do not think for myself
maybe lefties aren’t for letting others think for them, but they sure do let others, i.e the gov’t, do everything else for them.
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Who said I was assuming anything? Yes I am sure you just came up with the exact same talking points the Limborg hivemind masters program their cells with all by yourself. Even word for word like saying, for no reason at all that leftys want the government do everything for them. Except I am a serious lefty and no one does anything for me. You are a moron, a brainwashed idiot. The more you spew the obvious, cliched, and worn propaganda all us lefties have heard a thousand times the more you expose yourself. I am sure you BELIEVE you think for yourself that is because you are so brainwashed you can no longer distinguish between the voice in your head and the voice on the radio
November 23rd, 2008 at 3:10 amLeft wing hate. This weeks hivemind assignment. Repeat it as often as you can. You do know you are sad and pathetic dont you 57?
November 23rd, 2008 at 3:11 amMaybe the Fairness Doctrine should be imposed on comment boards like this. Thousands of people could be hired and stationed in dark rooms with computers and clipboards checking off how many posts spew hatred for O'Reilly and FNC and then demand it be balanced with pro-O'Reilly posts. You haters will think that's ridiculous but it is exactly what the Fairness Doctrine represents and it is enthusiastically supported by several US Senators.
The posts I read anytime O'Reilly and FNC are mentioned shows that Democrat truly is the party of hate and intolerance for Free Speech.
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EugeneDebs Says:
If you think you have the stuff upright then bring it on. I thought I was the one showing restraint. If you want a flamewar I am not going anywhere. IF you want to tell us why you feel so superior and OUGHT to be left alone to chastise us as if you were the room protocol moniter then do that. Who knows I might be convinced but I doubt it. So far I havent seen anything from you but an poor imitation of a schoolmarm
November 22nd, 2008 at 3:14 am
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Now be reasonable, bud. Neither a protocol monitor nor a schoolmarm would stoop to engaging in flamewars. One must remain above the fray. ;)
November 23rd, 2008 at 8:01 amwhen did I claim am radio was a topic of left wing hate? All I said was that it was a tiny market visited by a few. Show me where I did anything other if you have time between craftmatic adjustable bed commercials. So what is your sleep number libcon57?
November 23rd, 2008 at 9:53 amLooks as if the "Progressives" aka: Liberals can't handle O'Reilly when he tells it like it is. We say: Merry Christmas.
November 23rd, 2008 at 12:40 pmHappy holidays tommyr. I can't speak for anyone but myself but O'Reilly just seems like a d-bag and I have yet to hear him say anything "like it really is". If his schtick is your reality so be it but I sadly think you are being pwned by a marketing machine ala El Rushbo. I
November 23rd, 2008 at 12:57 pmJanny Says:
Anybody can start a website. We OWN the airwaves and only SOME can get licences for the right to broadcast to the public. Also there is already a fairness doctrine here. After I have MY say about the big giant EGO YOU can come in and give the other side. So you dont really make sense
November 23rd, 2008 at 2:48 pmupright left Says:
Now be reasonable, bud. Neither a protocol monitor nor a schoolmarm would stoop to engaging in flamewars. One must remain above the fray. ;)
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Feel free to do things the way you see fit. You can be absolutly CERTAIN I will do things as I see fit.
November 23rd, 2008 at 2:49 pmtommyr Says:
Looks as if the “Progressives” aka: Liberals can’t handle O’Reilly when he tells it like it is. We say: Merry Christmas.
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How would we know since all we ever see is O'falafel telling it like his delusional fantasies are.
November 23rd, 2008 at 2:51 pmJanny Says:
The posts I read anytime O’Reilly and FNC are mentioned shows that Democrat truly is the party of hate and intolerance for Free Speech.
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O I forgot this vintage bit of stupidity. What exactly would the first amendment right NOT to be criticised BE? It doesnt exist you are an idiot. Only the truly ignorant think that O'falafel has a first amendment right to spew his stupidity and lies, which he does, but WE dont have a first amendement right to CRITICISE HIM. There is also no first amendment right having to do with the fairness doctrine. Read the Red Lion decision where the Supreme Court says this directly. I know you morons only believe what you are told to believe but you are being played for a fool. You dont know what you are talking about.
November 23rd, 2008 at 8:47 pmAll BS angry commentary aside...the "fairness Doctrine" is indeed a statute that if signed into law would effectively mandate that all radio stations that have conservative hosts include an equal number of liberal hosts. This would only largely effect radio as conservative hosts such as Rush Limbaugh clearly dominate this sector in popularity the only rivals being publicly funded NPR which uses tax dollars to exist and only has a dozen listeners that mistakenly changed the dial when grabbing for their coffee...
February 24th, 2009 at 6:46 pmThe suppression of opposition movement by the liberal left has come full-circle and is now in full swing.
February 24th, 2009 at 6:59 pmI just wish that "liberal" people actually practiced what they preach. If being liberal actually means being more "compassionate" than conservatives which is the feel good BS idea behind most people that have no clue please explain the ways liberal thought is more compassionate. Understand, that qualifying statements need be included as to what this agenda means to the USA and how it supports/conflicts with the constitution as written. Thank you.
Tipper Gore (Al's Wife) was one of the most recent-history outspoken challengers of free speech pertaining to musicians. AL Gore is every bit as guilty of suppressant tactics with his "global warming" (ooops...it might be cooling...) "climate change" tactics where his very deeply entrenched media co-conspirators constantly display the slogan "the debate is over"...It's easier to prove an argument when anyone opposing it is ridiculed...
Hmmm...that was little bit angrier and much, much more- of a rant than I intended. I apologize.
February 24th, 2009 at 7:17 pm