Florida judge strikes down ban on gay adoptions.
By on Nov 25th, 2008 at 3:40 pm
Florida judge strikes down ban on gay adoptions.
Today, a Florida judge ruled that the state’s strict law banning the adoption of children by same-sex couples is unconstitutional. Miami-Dade Circuit Judge Cindy Lederman rejected the state’s arguments that there is “a supposed dark cloud hovering over homes of homosexuals and their children.” She noted that gay people are allowed to be foster parents, adding, “There is no rational basis to prohibit gay parents from adopting.” Florida was the only state with an outright ban, although Utah “bans any unmarried straight or gay couples from adopting or fostering children. Mississippi bans gay couples, but not single gays, from adopting.”
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– - The Mormpn Church will no doubt back a ballot initiative for the next Florida state elections.
November 25th, 2008 at 3:46 pmRepukes are sooooo family valued morally….aren’t they.
…I just can’t stand bigots who would take freedoms we all share away from a portion of America because of their bible humping mind set.
November 25th, 2008 at 3:47 pmThe Mormpn Church
– - D’oh! Mormon.
November 25th, 2008 at 3:50 pmLets keep this up….the more we can get all religions to dump millions of dollars for stupid causes like banning anything that has to do with gays, the faster we can get them to go broke.
Thank you Judge!!!
November 25th, 2008 at 3:51 pmhey I got here before Daryll followed shortly there after by bitblt…
November 25th, 2008 at 3:52 pmLook out Florida, Gawd will be sending you one hell of a hurricane to teach you that unconditional love and acceptance of children is immoral. So sayeth Robertson, Hagee, Parsley et. al.
November 25th, 2008 at 3:52 pmNext, Florida should ban all elections. Ever.
November 25th, 2008 at 3:53 pmTo the rescue, Mermaid church!
November 25th, 2008 at 3:56 pmMermaid church? Starbucks has a church now?
Drink Peets. It’s much better.
November 25th, 2008 at 4:12 pmAnd this is only the beginning. Bring on the court challenges!!!
November 25th, 2008 at 4:18 pmI wasn’t going to post today (too busy), but I can’t let this one slide.
Surely, we’ll be visited by Parodyll the Failure or bitblt the idgit, trying to convince us how morally wrong this is. Unless they are in parody mode, it’s because they believe it’s a choice.
News Flash!
Most of us (critically able thinking individuals) don’t believe it’s a choice.
Therefore, most of us believe that children raised in a loving healthy environment, is more important than your neanderthal anti gay propaganda.
In other words, don’t bless us with your nonsense. It’s old, it’s stale, it reeks of bigotry and hatred, which is completely opposite of your supposed pseudo-(c)hristian values.
God forbid, if something happened to my wife and I, and family members couldn’t take care of our children, I’d wish they be raised by a caring loving couple, regardless of their sexual orientation.
By the way, neighbors of ours, two “moms”, if you will, have adopted,and are raising healthy, loving children, one of whom happens to be dating a member of the opposite sex.
Welp, so much for the “gay environment will cause gayness of the children” argument.
So, in conclusion, I’d just like to say to Parodyll and idjit, before they post…
STFU!!
Thank you, Happy Holidays!
November 25th, 2008 at 4:24 pmRaptureReady – just STFU and go away – we don’t care what you think
November 25th, 2008 at 4:47 pmAlrighty! Daryll’s onboard. Now what about bitblt?
November 25th, 2008 at 4:50 pmSo Rapture Ready, seriously how exactly do you manage to function on a day to day basis what with the endless nudity and all. For real dude, that party ain’t happening…
whose morality? The clergyman in my town had no problem with my daughters having two godfathers. Do you have a beef with a man of the cloth?
November 25th, 2008 at 4:52 pmJesus is coming soon.
Everybody, look busy.
November 25th, 2008 at 4:52 pmHey RaptureReady – you WBC?
I’m more concerned with the sinful crime of legitimizing so-called “second marriages.” Marriage is traditionally defined as permanent. If someone wants to ditch their spouse and go shack up with someone else, society shouldn’t condone their adulterous lifestyle. It is a sin for any judge, politician or voter to support allowing such sinful “unions” to continue. Divorce = adultery.
And so on and so forth. I’ll drop my campaign if (for starters) every divorced person advocating against gay rights drops theirs. Until then I will work my ass off to take away their marriage, visitation, and adoption rights as well as their tax considerations and insurance coverage.
Then I’m starting in on the abominable shellfish eaters.
November 25th, 2008 at 4:58 pmNo numbnuts – morality does NOT offend me. What offends me are idiots like you that think make it their purpose in life to worry about, and interfere with everyone else’s lives. You give christians a bad name. Focus on your own damn family.
November 25th, 2008 at 4:58 pmReptureReady wrote: “This judge will have to answer to God for his sins.”
Sin? What sin? The judge decided the case based on the LAW and the reality of the modern world. Blind, narrowminded bias is no longer enough to justify violating the civil and human rights of gay and lesbian Americans.
Trust me: God is much less concerned about homosexuals than He is about how we all treat one another. If you are a Christian as you seem to claim, you’d know that. You would know that Jesus taught us that the highest value is to love God with all our hearts and minds and to love our neighbors as ourselves. He also told us not to judge one another. Read your Bible again, this time focusing just on the red letter verses in the New Testament. THAT is the important part; there is a reason that Jesus’ words are in a different font color.
Stop using God and Jesus to beat up on people you don’t like and don’t understand. Don’t point out the beam in my eye before you remove the speck in yours.
November 25th, 2008 at 4:59 pmRaptureReady Says
November 25th, 2008 at 4:42 pm
“This must be stopped.”
– I agree. Ensuring gays get the same rights as the rest of us should be a no-brainer, and shouldn’t have to be battled out in the courts, the voting booths, or anywhere else. It’s as ridiculous as left-handed people having to fight to be treated like everyone else.
“Florida is slowly becoming like California.”
– Nah, the cockroaches are still much, much bigger in Florida. And California has earthquakes.
“Look at Miami, I can’t tell whether or not I am in the U.S. or South America.”
– If you’re in Miami, you’re in the United States. Do you think a population has to be all white of northern European extraction to look like the United States? Did you have some kind of point to make with this remark, other than to demonstrate your racism?
“This judge will have to answer to God for his sins.”
– As do you. And as do we all. Why don’t you worry about your sins and let the judge worry about his?
“Jesus will not drop the charges on this judge for his sinful decision.”
– How do you know exactly what Jesus will do? You’ve already demonstrated that information you claimed came directly from the Almighty was false. Do you remember “President-Elect Huckabee”?
“Our church is working to stop homosexuality.”
– Homosexuality has been around as long as humans have. How much effect do you really think you and your church will have stopping it? You might as well attempt to stop people from being short.
“We protested during the nationwide gay march in the Adams Morgan area.”
– Oh, I bet THAT was effective…
“We are also trying to make the world morally sound.”
November 25th, 2008 at 5:01 pm– Again, if you want to make the world morally sound, I suggest you start with yourself. Attacking other countries without provocation is immoral. Denying people their civil rights is immoral. Disrespecting others is immoral. Assuming you are superior to others is immoral. Try reading something in the Bible besides Leviticus and Acts.
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Dear RupturedallReady(aka Daryyl),
Fit through that needle yet?
When the whore was thrown to the dirt, who did Jesus say should throw stones?
Who did Jesus say we should judge?
How did Jesus implore that we treat each other?
When you say, “Look at Miami, I can’t tell whether or not I am in the U.S. or South America,” how is that not blatant (R)acism? Is this how Jesus should look at you? Is it fair to expect Jesus to drop charges for you and not others? You protest against the gay community for their sins… do you hide behind that self righteousness just to hide your own failings? Sure, we may not be privileged to your sins, but with all your religiosity, is God shielded from your sins too?
RR(aka D.),
Save your soul first. If you are free of sin, Christ commanded that you NOT condemn others for what you, yourself posses, but instead He commanded that you give of yourself even more to those less fortunate to be a pure as you.
RR(aka D.),
Why do you think God will absolve you of your false witnessing?
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November 25th, 2008 at 5:02 pmI am sure it won’t be long before we’re hearing about “activist judges” again and how that there should be a popular vote on the rights of homosexuals to adopt. What is really sad is that most of the time gay couples end up adopting or providing foster care for very, very troubled and/or sick children. Are “Christians” like RaptureReady lining up to adopt crack babies? Or children with AIDS? Or non-white, non-infant children? In many cases, the only people that will take in a challenged child are gays and lesbians.
When the law is examined and reviewed without bias, it is clear that laws specifically excluding homosexuals from adoption, being foster care providers, getting married, etc. are UNCONSTITUTIONAL and therefore putting such issues on an election ballot is worthless.
The role of the Judiciary in our government is to interpret the laws written by the Legislature and signed into law by the Executive branch, be it at the state or the Federal level. A judge is not being “activist” if s/he grounds an argument in the law and in the spirit of the Equal Protection clause of the US Constitution (which supersedes state constitutions by the way).
November 25th, 2008 at 5:04 pmYou are not spreading the gospel of Jesus Christ – it’s your own twisted version of what you think that is. If you want to spread the gospel, why don’t you “feed the hungry”, or “clothe the naked”? Funny – I don’t think there is much about “I am right – and everyobdoy else is wrong”.
November 25th, 2008 at 5:07 pmRaptureReady writes: “I will continue to spread the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Sin will not continue to reside within this world. Jesus informed his children to spread the gospel. We must travel to rid this world of sin.”
Well then, why don’t you actually work on that and focus on what JESUS said was important. Jesus never said one word about homosexuality. The only reference in the New Testament to homosexuality comes from Romans and is part of the forged letters of Paul that were actually written by the Catholic Church and inserted into the biblical canon. The single verse in Leviticus, including the mistranslated word that in the KJV of the Bible is written as “abomination”; this is not an accurate rendering of the original Hebrew. The real Hebrew term is translated as “contrary to ritual”.
Besides, since when did “Christians” actually apply such things to themselves? I hear all the time about the “abomination” of homosexuality, but I never see people protesting in front of Red Lobster or blowing up the boats that go out and catch them. Shellfish – lobsters, clams, shrimp, etc. – are UNCLEAN, remember?
One more thing: Jesus never promised a world “without sin”. You really need to re-read your New Testament. I am beginning to think that you really have no understanding of the religion that you claim to represent.
November 25th, 2008 at 5:09 pm“We must travel to rid this world of sin.”
Oh Damn, you really are that asswipe that seems to always be hanging around the Greyhound terminal aren’t you?
November 25th, 2008 at 5:10 pm“Also, I am here to save souls and restore conservatism.”
I suppose I am sort of a hard case eh my kooky friend? Come on man do your magic!
November 25th, 2008 at 5:14 pmDaryll, you are not spreading the gospel of Jesus Christ because that “good news” is that we are loved and saved regardless of any of our sins. You are trying to condemn people who you think are sinning against God, forget about letting him decide and act on that for himself. Second, about that speaking in tongues – do you have someone translating? If you don’t then it is not of the Holy Spirit – read the Bible a little closer.
Would you deny a parentless child a loving home?
November 25th, 2008 at 5:16 pm.
Daryll,
You seem full of your own self righteousness to care for yourself that instead, you’ve taken the burden to cure the world of it’s perceived ills and sins.
TAKE THAT MOTE OUT OF YOUR OWN EYE…
Just who did Jesus condemn?
Was it the whore, the tax collector, the afflicted?
As Missmolly pointed out, if you’re in Florida, you’re in the USA.
If you fear the brown skin, it’s because you’re a (R)acist!
Just who is you’re saving if you care not for your own sins?
Speaking of your sins…
… Just who should be judge of them? Why is it O.K. for you to judge others? Is this how you wish to be treated? How does this correspond to Christ’s Commandments of us? If we are to judge each other then aren’t you saying Jesus was a LIAR?
… Confused?
If Jesus came to teach Love and Compassion, why is it you think He hates by your emulation of that hate? Does this mean it is acceptable in the eye of God to hate you too?
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November 25th, 2008 at 5:19 pmRaptureReady Says:
I will continue to spread the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Sin will not continue to reside within this world. Jesus informed his children to spread the gospel. We must travel to rid this world of sin.
Please cite the Gospel passages where Christ discusses homosexuality. I seem to have missed them on my last read-through.
November 25th, 2008 at 5:19 pmc. Sodomites (those who practice homosexuality) contrary to
sound doctrine – 1Ti 1:10
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Am I a sodomite if I am doing that thing with a consenting female? Come on Daryll I really need an answer on this one. Remember my soul might be at risk and it is your task to save that thing
November 25th, 2008 at 5:20 pmAnd Daryll, YOU don’t save any souls – no person does – that’s God’s work. You are truly a Christian Pharisee who represents a serious stumbling block to anyone seeking the Gospel as you keep others from the message of love that is the underpinning of that Gospel. Oppression is not of God.
November 25th, 2008 at 5:21 pm.
Dear Daryyl,
Real Christians know that the One True way to the Father is through Christ, NOT through YOU!
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November 25th, 2008 at 5:24 pmRaptureReady Says:
You made a typical liberal comment. There is more to the bible than the love of Jesus (Laws and Commandments).
Eating shellfish? Eating pork? Working on a Saturday? Mixing meat and dairy?
Should people who do those things not be legally allowed to marry or adopt?
November 25th, 2008 at 5:24 pmDaryll, the Jewish Pharisees of Jesus time thought they were upholding the morals of God during their time as well. There is a difference between “morality” (which can be sacred and/or secular) and “religious dogma”. You, like the Jewish Pharisees, preach the “law” or religious dogma without understanding the true morality and spirituality of love.
November 25th, 2008 at 5:24 pmjpopphan Says:
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Well then, why don’t you actually work on that and focus on what JESUS said was important. Jesus never said one word about homosexuality.
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Besides, since when did “Christians” actually apply such things to themselves? I hear all the time about the “abomination” of homosexuality, but I never see people protesting in front of Red Lobster or blowing up the boats that go out and catch them. Shellfish – lobsters, clams, shrimp, etc. – are UNCLEAN, remember?
I am beginning to think that you really have no understanding of the religion that you claim to represent.
November 25th, 2008 at 5:09 pm
Jesus never said one word about homosexuality.
bit doesn’t think anyone is qualified to make this statement, categorically. While it is the case that the Bible doesn’t record Christ speaking about homosexuality, the Bible is quite clear that not everything that Jesus said or did was recorded.
Nonetheless, Christ did speak to the Creator’s intent in Matthew 19. Here Christ says that a man and a woman would be “one flesh” in marriage. This is a state that cannot be achieved by to same-same gender people. So if you’re so interested, and believe, in what the New Testament says, why don’t you quote what Jesus explicitly said?
Shellfish – lobsters, clams, shrimp, etc. – are UNCLEAN, remember?
Do you know what the Old Testament punishment was for eating shellfish? Good. Do you know what the OT punishment was for homosexuality?
You might want to make a comparison of the punishments when you use this particular line of reasoning in an attempt to show hypocrisy.
November 25th, 2008 at 5:24 pmRapture Ready:
November 25th, 2008 at 5:25 pmI realize you have your hands full already but come on help me out here. My soul is at stake here.
Daryll – DROP DEAD.
November 25th, 2008 at 5:25 pmHi bitblt.
November 25th, 2008 at 5:25 pmWe’ve been expecting you…
Daryyl quipped:
And what of those Commandments…
… Judge not unless you’re Daryyl?
… Do unto others as Daryyl would have you do?
PERVERSION REIGNS!
Now,
Just who was it that Christ did condemn…
… But those that perverted His Father’s Commandments for their self righteousness, NO?
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November 25th, 2008 at 5:26 pmbitblt tell the truth. You’ve had a shrimp cocktail once or twice haven’t you. Crabcakes are good too but you have to make real Chesapeake Bay ones not that stupid bread crumbs type crap.
November 25th, 2008 at 5:27 pmdbadass Says:
c. Sodomites (those who practice homosexuality) contrary to
sound doctrine – 1Ti 1:10
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Am I a sodomite if I am doing that thing with a consenting female? Come on Daryll I really need an answer on this one. Remember my soul might be at risk and it is your task to save that thing
November 25th, 2008 at 5:20 pm
Man, you’re a hard-case today. Seems that you of all the people posting of TP would know that if you don’t agree with RR the thing to do is just ignore him.
Whether or not you’re a sodomite is irrelevant if you don’t believe Jesus is the Son of God. John 3:16 makes this very clear.
bit believes you’re past that point of understanding.
You may want to ask yourself if believing in Christ is worth giving up being a sodomite – assuming this is dbadass’s condition.
November 25th, 2008 at 5:29 pmRaptureReady writes: “This should answer your question. Take heed to God’s word.
New Testament references
a. Women and men committing acts against nature – Ro 1:26-27
b. Practicing homosexuals and sodomites will not inherit the
kingdom – 1Co 6:9-10
c. Sodomites (those who practice homosexuality) contrary to
sound doctrine – 1Ti 1:10
d. Reference to Sodom and Gomorrah, going after ’strange flesh’
- Jude 1:7″
A is part of the forged letters of Paul, so no dice there.
B is also part of the forged letters, so again no dice. Besides, in that passage the emphasis is not specific to homosexuals.
C is the same as B.
D refers to a mistranslation and misunderstanding of the story about Sodom and Gomorrah. The sin of these cities was not homosexuality; it was violating the customs of hospitality. Otherwise, why would Lot have offered the men his daughters? Homosexual men would not have been placated with women.
So, try again. Maybe actually READ the teachings of Jesus instead of dwelling on forged letters written in Paul’s name?
November 25th, 2008 at 5:29 pmIf you are a female, yes. If you don’t turn from your wicked ways, hell awaits for you (Fire and brimstone).
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And if I am a dude it is A-Okay right? See the thing is they call that sodomy but some of the ladies I have know see it differently. Thanks for the clarification. It is nice to know that my soul is in no danger.
November 25th, 2008 at 5:29 pmbitblt Says:
Nonetheless, Christ did speak to the Creator’s intent in Matthew 19. Here Christ says that a man and a woman would be “one flesh” in marriage. This is a state that cannot be achieved by to same-same gender people. So if you’re so interested, and believe, in what the New Testament says, why don’t you quote what Jesus explicitly said?
Let’s check that out: from the NIV:
This goes right back to my complaint about divorce. So-called “second marriages” are nothing more than societally condoned adultery. Divorce should be illegal, and divorced people should not be allowed to adopt. Henry VIII’s attempts to change the traditional definition of marriage should be opposed.
bitblt Says:
Do you know what the Old Testament punishment was for eating shellfish? Good. Do you know what the OT punishment was for homosexuality?
Actually, what was the punishment for eating shellfish anyways? Or “spilling your seed on the ground?”
How about for disobeying your parents…?
November 25th, 2008 at 5:29 pmThe Holy Scriptures is specifically for believers. While God/Jesus commands that believers “teach” the Good News, there is no commandment for believers to jam it down unbelievers’ throats, make it enforceable by governmental decree, or to use it as a means of oppression.
November 25th, 2008 at 5:29 pm.
So Daryyl,
WHAT SINS SHALL I DAMN YOU FOR?
If Jesus commanded that we treat each other as we wish to be treated, and you justify your damnation of others based on their sinful ways, and since we are ALL guilty of sin and continue to posses the capacity to sin…
… What goes around comes around, NO?
WHAT SINS SHALL YOU BE DAMNED FOR?
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November 25th, 2008 at 5:31 pmI send money to the Red Cross and the 700 Club Save the Children organization. Also, I can tell that my words have convicted you. Why are you so rebellious about being a moral person/spreading morality to others.
You are really out of your frickin mind. First of all, you can “give” to organizations all you want – it’s not the same thing as actually getting closer and personal. As far as convicting me – no way. You are not spreading morality – only hatred and homophobia.
I would love to continue to watch you make a complete fool of yourself, but I gotta go. You really ought to look in a mirror before casting stones, and condemning others dude.
November 25th, 2008 at 5:32 pmTell the truth Rapture Ready you’ve drank a beer.
November 25th, 2008 at 5:32 pm.
Daryyl,
So, when Jesus turned water into wine, it was because he was against strong drink?
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November 25th, 2008 at 5:36 pmRR –
Gospel in government is a bad idea specifically for the reason that you might support it now, but if it went through odds are good that your particular form of Christianity would be legally supressed. That’s been the case pretty much everwhere that state-sponsored religion has ever been established.
As I recall, Jesus said quite a lot about people wearing their piety on their sleeves while bloviating about the sins of others. You might want to review the gospels and keep an eye out for that. He says it’s a sin and you’re going to go to hell. No, really he does. You may recall a few passages about that.
So, I’m just trying to save you here by pointing out that you’re being a judgemental finger-pointing holier-than-thou ass.
If you want to save others, you should do it in a positive manner without condemning them, as Jesus did Himself.
November 25th, 2008 at 5:39 pmI can’t help it – one last comment – to repeat what Leftside Annie said:
RaptureReady – DROP DEAD
November 25th, 2008 at 5:39 pmdbadass Says: Your comment is awaiting moderation.
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bit believes you’re past that point of understanding.
You may want to ask yourself if believing in Christ is worth giving up being a sodomite – assuming this is dbadass’s condition.
Ooops better make that a nal
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Oh bit, on what do you base this new conjecture.
November 25th, 2008 at 5:41 pmI just needed clarification as to whether or not a nal intercourse between a male and a female was sinful or not. Seems the D man has cleared me of any concerns on that front. Now while we are discussing the private actions of others what does that great big book of everything have to say about femoral sex?
By the way RR, your reading list entirely exludes the actual Gospels, which is the first four books of the New Testament. The two are not the same thing, as one would think you would know. The former is the part where some of the apostles relate the biography of Jesus from following him. The latter is commentary by later apostles and church leaders on Christianity in general. I’m talking about the parts where people who were with Jesus relate the things he said. Not the parts where other people say things.
November 25th, 2008 at 5:42 pmDaryll writes:
Sorry D.
I gotta call B.S. on your spiritual dogma. IF you’re to be correct about the creation of mankind with this Adam and Eve crap, then God FIRST created Adam in God’s image and from Adam, God created a mate. Woman was created to be man’s companion… So, let’s get the stupid story correct, K? Man was NOT created for women, but just the reverse. That is how the sexist religiosity story goes…
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November 25th, 2008 at 5:43 pmHe did this to prove his power of creating miracles to the people.
November 25th, 2008 at 5:43 pm—
Seems sort of stupid to create a strong drink miracle if you have an issue with strong drink. Do you make this shit up as you go along. Why not just make a real miracle by making a moist turkey rather than that nasty ass dry church supper shit they are always serving?
Here’s a fun bible study question:
Does the bible (old or new testaments) say anything at all pro or con regarding girl-on-girl action?
Fun fact: it does NOT!
Lesbians get a total pass.
November 25th, 2008 at 5:44 pmDaryll, you do realize that it was the collusion of the Jewish religious leaders and the Roman government that led to the murder of Jesus as well as the oppression of Jesus’ followers? Jesus, by his example, made it clear that his followers were not to rely on government to spread his Gospel, but to meet people face to face and love them into the fold. You, as a Christian Pharisee, seek submission at the end of the sword of law.
November 25th, 2008 at 5:49 pmSure but what about that dry ass turkey and how come those catholics are into that whole wine thing? I am down with the whole blessed be the lesbians thing though…
November 25th, 2008 at 5:49 pm#68 Daryyl wrote
WRONG!!!
For a Bible thumper, you’re letting your ignorance shine!
John 2:1-12
So,
Jesus was out to “PROVE” Himself? Really? What did Jesus need to “PROVE”? He could have just gotten down off that cross and ALL would known, then… NO? So why did he not “PROVE” Himself then?
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November 25th, 2008 at 5:50 pmHey Daryll it seems bit had to take a breather. Other than that sip of beer back in the day, where are you at with the consumption of those shrimp cocktails? May I remind you of the sin of dishonesty?
November 25th, 2008 at 5:50 pmRaptureReady Says:
Jesus used people like the apostle Paul to spread his word.
Something I’ve meant to ask – if Paul before converting to Christianity was a Roman who was employed persecuting Christians, then doesn’t that mean that he became a Christian sometime after Jesus’ death? So he would have never met Jesus at all.
I gather from your comment that you hold that Jesus transferred information spiritually to Paul, which he later wrote down. I’m interested to know where that process stops, and why. Should we include Muhammed? Joseph Smith? Jim Jones? David Koresh? Why or why not?
I’m sure you’re aware that the determination of which religious writings would be included in the New Testament was decided by a vote of the early bishops of the Catholic Church, some centuries after Jesus’ death. So what determination do you use to fix what you consider to be the dividing line between valid prophecy and outright lunacy? Could they have made mistakes? Might there be other religious works that belong in there, or might some of the books included in the commonly accepted edition of the bible actually not be the word of God?
November 25th, 2008 at 5:52 pmD.
How is your skewing of the Bible correct but when I correct you on those facts, it’s feminism rearing it’s ugly head.
Please cite the verse where Jesus condemns homosexuals.
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November 25th, 2008 at 5:54 pmI’ll need a specific citation on that as a matter of religious law, please. “Anything else is a sin” is far too vague to be applicable to such an important topic as the determination of sin.
November 25th, 2008 at 5:54 pmFor God so loved the world (more than Daryll does)that he gave his only Son (whose name was not Daryll)and whosoever believes in him (not Daryll’s characterization of him) shall not perish but have everlasting life. Homosexuals, murderers, adulterers, and Darylls can all apply. Amen.
November 25th, 2008 at 5:56 pm#77 D
Again, with the purposeful misinterpretations of the Bible…
Daryyl, WOMAN WAS CREATED TO BE MAN’S COMPANION! NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND.
And to throw in bestiality into the equation… Geesh, where do you ever stop? Equating bestiality to homosexuals… makes YOU the pig!
November 25th, 2008 at 5:58 pmOK RR, I think I’ve got your method down. God’s intention, “in general” statements, etc. all define sin. In order to save others from eternal damnation, we must vocally condemn sin, as well as supporting the removal of civil rights from those who live sinful lifestyles.
From the majority of Jesus’ statements, vocally condemning sin, is a sin. Behaving in a holier-than-thou fashion is a sin. You are therefore going to hell for behaving this way, and you should have your civil rights revoked. Your sinful “evangelical” lifestyle should not be condoned by society.
Oh crap, since I’m telling you you’re going to hell, that applies to me now! We’re all going to hell together!!!1!
I’ll go get the handbasket.
November 25th, 2008 at 5:59 pmdbadass,
November 25th, 2008 at 6:00 pmDishonesty is a virtue Daryyl strives to attain.
It was the only decision to make. Many adopted & foster children live rich, loving, well cared for lives with gay/lesbian couples. The only thing that should matter is that the living environment is nurturing, loving, safe & encouraging for the child.
November 25th, 2008 at 6:02 pmRR, wait – alchohol is a sin now too? That’s not anywhere in Hebrew or Christian law… anywhere. Maybe some modern strains of Protestantism. Islam, definitely. But if we’re talking about biblical references, there’s less in the negative said about booze than even lesbianism (aka. zero).
November 25th, 2008 at 6:02 pmRapture Ready
November 25th, 2008 at 6:02 pmAsElBruce points out, your soul is at risk. I am there for you my man and can loan you mine for a bit to tide you over. So let me get this wine thing straight. Strong drink no good. Strong drink provided by a potential weird dude that may or may not have molested a child cool. Is that how it goes?
D.
This, in no way answers the question I asked: If Jesus turned water into win, this was because He was against the strong drink?
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November 25th, 2008 at 6:02 pmSo the turkey is dry becuase the alcohol has to be cooked out? Damn that is the pure magic which is Daryll. I love it. Come on bit I know your there. Can we give RR some props or what?
November 25th, 2008 at 6:03 pm.
Hey everyone,
Daryyl can’t quote the verse where Jesus condemns homosexuals.
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November 25th, 2008 at 6:05 pmRaptureReady Says:
God’s word is true. The sign of the times are identical to the scripture.
I’m not disputing whatever that means. I’m just interested to know if you have any consistent definition regarding what texts do and do not constitute “scripture.” Can I write a chapter and send it to you and have you preach it?
November 25th, 2008 at 6:07 pmMax-1:
November 25th, 2008 at 6:08 pmI mean no disrespect but you do realize that RR/Daryll isn’t real correct?
RaptureReady Says:
I Samuel 1:14-15
And Eli said unto her, How long wilt thou be drunken? put away thy wine from thee.
15 And Hannah answered and said, No, my lord, I am a woman of a sorrowful spirit: I have drunk neither wine nor strong drink, but have poured out my soul before the LORD
That’s between Eli and Hannah. There’s nothing there from God to you and me. Should we take anything anybody says to anybody else in the bible as commandments from God to us? If so, I could pick some doozies.
November 25th, 2008 at 6:09 pmYo Rapture Ready
November 25th, 2008 at 6:09 pmLiving in VA and all are you going to continue to avoid the shellfish question. Damn, I’d sell my soul for a bussell of blue crabs…
So Rapture Ready about that clergy man that blessed my daughters two godfathers. Why hasn’t your kooky god smited him or something? I think he may have gotten it wrong again ala PE Huckabee
November 25th, 2008 at 6:12 pmOh like organized religion isn’t a game…
November 25th, 2008 at 6:12 pm.
Hey Daryyl,
What did Jesus instruct us to NOT do?
And the repercussions of NOT obeying Him?
How did Jesus instruct us to NOT get into this tangled web you’ve woven for yourself?
Aren’t you condemning yourself for the condemnation of others?
I tell you what…
… I’ll save a seat next to me in Hell for you, if you don’t beat me there first, K?
p.s.
If you do get there first, give my seat to Jerry Falwell instead, K? He’ll need the extra seat for his little lying ass. Oh, and save a seat for Haggart, too. Oh, and what’s his face, the reformed gay coke addict who hires male prostitute to commit adultery on his wife with…
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November 25th, 2008 at 6:14 pmElBruce,
November 25th, 2008 at 6:16 pmFor Catholics, that little sip of wine at Communion isn’t about the Blood of Christ, but instead, a taste of sin!
RaptureReady Says:
Proverbs 20:1
Wine is a mocker, strong drink is raging: and whosoever is deceived thereby is not wise.
Interesting. The Old Testament is not at all shy about saying “don’t do this” or “do that.” This just says being decieved by strong drink is not wise. If it was sinful, it would say “don’t drink.” But it doesn’t. So who are you to elevate something from the category of unwise to the category of sinful? And what kind of a sin is that?!?
P.S, dbadass, Darry’l ain’t a bot.
November 25th, 2008 at 6:16 pmdon’t you mean “are” death? I have to get to work. It is always a goof Daryll I just wish bit could have hung out longer.
November 25th, 2008 at 6:19 pmNot being wise =/= sin. Not being wise =/= condemned by G-d. Stop conflating the words of men in your compiled-and-chosen-by-men book of fables with the words of the Deity you are supposed to worship in your compiled-and-chosen-by-men book of fables. Also, stop forcing it on everyone else, and spreading the world loudly on the corners lest you be a hypocrite. Listen to the words of your Lord and Savior and preach through your actions, NOT through your words. Give away all of your worldly goods to those less fortunate than you, raise Mankind as a whole up through love and generosity and acceptance and giving, stop casting stones, stop using fear of an afterlife of DOOM and DAMNATION to motivate others. Oh…and go live away from Rome in a community of the like-minded, kicking sand on the feet of all who don’t answer your words of, “God be with you…” with the return phrase of knowing, “…and with you”, letting you know who is a Christian and who is not.
Oh, wait, right. You actually ARE a hypocrite. My bad. Carry on into social oblivion, then, dragging truly good people down with you into the cesspool of blind hatred towards all whom are different, like gays, and non-Christians, and brown people (you know, like Yeshua was).
*rolleyes*
November 25th, 2008 at 6:20 pmbut if you wanna take the tempation to have a nal sex it is totally cool so long as you are married and your partner is the opposite gender. Still no word on femoral sex though so be careful…
November 25th, 2008 at 6:21 pmRaptureReady Says:
The wages of sin is death.
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Do not take tempation to drink liquor.
OK dbadass, I take it back. He’s a bot.
November 25th, 2008 at 6:29 pmWine can only be used during communion.
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November 25th, 2008 at 6:31 pmMakes sense to me. Some of the best communions I have had have been when we were both a little bit lite up. It helps to take the edge off and increases the sexual aggresssion
ElBruce:
November 25th, 2008 at 6:32 pmI respect your clear knowledge of true Christian ideals.
best-
D.
Are you free of sin?
Like I said, save me a seat next to your buddies… K?
November 25th, 2008 at 6:34 pmI just have to recommend 124. That shit is dope!
November 25th, 2008 at 6:37 pmand I don’t even know what emps are…
November 25th, 2008 at 6:38 pmWhat truly cracks me up is the refusal by die-hard fundies to acknowledge science that they disagree with, while utilizing the fruits of different science that they either used to or still…disagree with. :o
Homosexuality in males has been linked to genetics, and also to a specific correlation with the mother: Every time a mother has an additional boy, there is a specific curve of statistical chance that that boy will be gay as an adult. Each additional boy has a progressively higher chance to be gay. This is true whether or not the child is raised in that family, or is raised as a single child in another family, or raised with a straight or gay couple, or raised in an orphanage, or changed from foster home to foster home for a long time. There is zero correlation with environment for this statistical chance, and it is believed that the mother’s womb generates permanent hormonal cues to increase the odds of a gay male as more male offspring are born. There is zero correlation with women in this regard in any way. A tenth female child has as much chance of being gay as a first born female.
There are 1400 species on earth and counting that exhibit homosexual behavior in natural settings with no man-made influence.
In other words, this seems very much to be an evolutionary trait to prevent overpopulation in humans, before taking genetics into account. There are distinctive genetic markers correlating to bisexual and homosexual males, tending to be female-like structures in the DNA, i.e. men with woman-like mechanisms. There are genetic markers in women that are the same, where they display male-like DNA traits, making them more likely to be bisexual or lesbian. Neither is a guarantee, but both indicate likelihood.
In other words, RR and D and his ilk are full of tremendous amounts of crap, and like to bury their head in the sand when it bothers their sensibilities, while utilizing the fruits of the labors of those whom, and those sciences with which they specifically and vehemently disagree with.
Hypocrites of the highest (lowest?) order.
November 25th, 2008 at 6:41 pmOr, you know, a really pathetic bot made by a really pathetic individual.
November 25th, 2008 at 6:42 pmdbadass, your emps iz bound.
November 25th, 2008 at 6:42 pmI’ll drink to the emps!
November 25th, 2008 at 6:46 pmModeration Says:
What truly cracks me up is the refusal by die-hard fundies to acknowledge science that they disagree with, while utilizing the fruits of different science that they either used to or still…disagree with. :o
Homosexuality in males has been linked to genetics…
That’s some interesting stuff there. Got citations?
I’d be willing to bet that homosexuality manifests epigenetically. It seems to fit – something you can’t change through behavior but which isn’t itself directly DNA-encoded. That would explain the ability to transmit the trait to offspring as well as the ability of the trait to adapt to environmental circumstances early in development.
November 25th, 2008 at 6:48 pmI see RupturedRectum has showed up to spew his “My God is Real” crapola.
No RR your god is a liar…”Huckaberry is going to be our next President”
…and the Magical Invisible Faerie in the sky still isn’t listening to you.
Go Flog yourself in your “Get the Gay Out” Closet for a couple of hours…
…you freak.
November 25th, 2008 at 6:54 pm>to talk to other evangicals to
> close casas and other prostitution
> rings/facilities.
But Daryl, then where will your pastor Ted Haggard get his meth from?
November 25th, 2008 at 7:04 pmThis was the one I originally read. There are additional articles on the subject, but I originally read it when some of my gay friends in the bio-engineering and medical fields e-mailed it to me. It was very interesting. (I’m sure you can find a free copy somewhere. Maybe try Scribd.com)
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B6WMD-45KKS7X-72&_user=10&_rdoc=1&_fmt=&_orig=search&_sort=d&view=c&_acct=C000050221&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=10&md5=24c81c164a6da0b1fcd39be79c334333
Other studies appear to be corroborating this correlation.
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B6WGC-45PMFBK-9&_user=10&_origUdi=B6WMD-45KKS7X-72&_fmt=high&_coverDate=05%2F31%2F2002&_rdoc=1&_orig=article&_acct=C000050221&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=10&md5=1bc87588ad3d61eb5b167b7de3eccac0
There are additional articles on the subject, but I originally read it in an online science journal some of my gay friends in the bio-engineering and medical fields e-mailed me.
November 25th, 2008 at 7:19 pmGah, it’s supposed to CUT when you cut and paste, that last paragraph was supposed to be folded into the first. @_@
November 25th, 2008 at 7:21 pmRaptureReady Says:
This must be stopped. Florida is slowly becoming like California. Look at Miami, I can’t tell whether or not I am in the U.S. or South America.
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It was only a matter of time before the RupturedRetard came by to give us his hatefilled, ignorant and bigoted rant. So what is wrong with Miami you racist piece of garbage? Not white enough for you? You dont know the mind of God either moron so your screed about how God will judge anyone means nothing. I think you ought to worry about how he will judge YOU for your racism, stupidity, and hatefullness. Please just stop breathing. Real human beings could be using that oxygen
November 25th, 2008 at 7:22 pmRaptureReady Says:
Does morality offend you?
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Speaking only for myself stupidity and hatefilled racism and bigotry offend me. That is YOU offend me MORON. YOU dont get to define morality. YOU are too ignorant to know what the word means.
November 25th, 2008 at 7:23 pmRupturedRetard and Bitostupidity. You two are disgusting and ignorant bigots. You are not spreading the word of GOD you are spreading hate and bigotry because THAT is what is in you. There is an old native American tale saying each of us has two dogs within us fighting for our souls one is hate, bigotry, fear, and the other is love, empathy and generousity. The one that wins is the one you FEED. The two of you feed your hatred your stupidity and your pious judgemental sides. That isnt Christianity to me. Its self righteous, psuedopiety, its look how much better I am than the OTHER. There is no other. The thing that annoys me the most about you two hypocritical charlatans is that you give GOOD Christians a bad name. You are both disgusting hatemongers and you are stupider than the dirt on the ground.
November 25th, 2008 at 7:30 pmOh DAMN DAMN DAMN!!!!
I can’t believe I missed a classic Daryll Gay thread!!!!
Thankfully, I see our regulars were able to sweep up the mess made when our favorite DoD contractor’s head exploded.
Nice work, dbadass.
November 25th, 2008 at 8:05 pmI wish Darryl and Bitbit would just get a room, already…
November 25th, 2008 at 10:23 pmDaryl the idiot spouts:
Wine is only for communion.
Funny thing is dipshit. I went to Parochial Boarding schools ALL the way through Highschool. Can you guess what the Nuns, Padres and Brothers all had every night with dinner?
You are such a LYING TWISTED A$$WIPE. If there is a Hell, You are for sure gonna be there.
SHIT4BRAINS
November 25th, 2008 at 10:46 pmrepublicans hate facts Says:
(stuff in upper/lower case, ROTFL and lots of exclamation points)
Dude, take a chill pill. The bible thumper has been appropriately neutralized.
November 25th, 2008 at 10:47 pmElBruce Says: appropriately neutralized.
IMHO he and his ilk will only be neutralized when they are dead.
November 25th, 2008 at 10:49 pmSKdeA Says:
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I wish Darryl and Bitbit would just get a room, already…
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it is easy to miss but in the interest of the respect and honor of spelling, I believe it is Daryll and bitblt. The spelling of Daryll has varied through time and I will admit I myself missed the initial uniqueness of the partially eaten sandwich but still manners and names matter
November 26th, 2008 at 12:32 amRandomChaos Says:
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Satan, the Lord God rebuke you, in the powerful name of Jeebus. This individual belongs to God, not you. I bind your emps and works, in Jeebus name!!!
Woo tah! My exorcism Kung Fu is unstoppable!!!
November 26th, 2008 at 12:58 amEmps? Really, “emps”? Ineffective. It’s “imps”. Hope the fool RaptureRetard doesn’t try its hand at exorcism or ghost busting. I believe there could be lots of problems if you don’t get the Latin precisely. Not that it is smart enough to speak, let alone read, the text in the original or the King James version correctly. (Or type apparently.)
Good slaps to RR’s head ya’all!! Why do I always seem to miss the good troll whackings?
By the way, let RR know that the King James version it likes to thump was authorized by King James of England, a KNOWN HOMOSEXUAL (his lover was named Steenie and he kissed him openly in public on the mouth). That’ll pop its little head!
November 26th, 2008 at 1:27 am#106 – RaptureReady Says:
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“Proverbs 20:1
Wine is a mocker, strong drink is raging: and whosoever is deceived thereby is not wise.”
November 25th, 2008 at 6:12 pm
Wow! I never thought that Daryll would call Jesus “not wise”!
November 26th, 2008 at 5:58 amZimzone Says:
Next, Florida should ban all elections. Ever.
We’re not all dimwitted bigots here in FL ;)
November 26th, 2008 at 11:31 am#151 – Exit Stage Left Says:
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“We’re not all dimwitted bigots here in FL ;)”
November 26th, 2008 at 11:31 am
That is very true! You’ve got a judge that believes in the American value of equal rights for all, and NOT special rights only for religious bigots and the Biblically challenged! ;-)
November 26th, 2008 at 12:24 pmIf we’ve learned anything at all from living with the authoritarian borgs among us for the last several years, it is this:
A) They literally CANNOT see that which they do not wish to.
B) They will never, ever concede to even the most obvious logically sound argument. EVER. Ain’t gonna happen.
C) When all else fails, they will simply revert to inane non-arguments such as this:
“God’s word is true. The sign of the times are identical to the scripture.”
I must admit, I have deeply enjoyed the verbal target practice over the years…
It helped in some cathartic way to alleviate the sense of helplessness and visceral horror from witnessing the absolute destruction of the fiber of the USA before our very eyes in slow-motion HD.
But, I find that now, having “won” the election (read precluded another theft thereof)… I’m just too tired to bother much anymore.
All that said… There still remains a pleasant “glow” (not unlike that reached about half-way through a killer Chilean Cabernet) from the occasional weenie-roast.
It moves up to the jubilance of a second Grey-Goose & Redbull when it happens on a thread about overturning discriminatory and un-American gay-hate legislation.
dbadass and ElBruce rawked it.
November 26th, 2008 at 12:57 pm