Norquist: ‘The Economy’s In The Present State’ Because Democrats Took Control Of Congress In 2006
Norquist: ‘The Economy’s In The Present State’ Because Democrats Took Control Of Congress In 2006
On CNBC this morning, Americans for Tax Reform President Grover Norquist claimed that the current financial crisis facing America is rooted in the fact that Democrats took control of the House and Senate in 2006. “The economy’s in the present state because when the Democrats took the House and Senate in 2006, you knew that those tax increases were going to come in 2010,” said Norquist.
According to Norquist, the stock market collapsed because “we’re in the middle of responding” to tax increases that haven’t actually happened yet:
NORQUIST: Well, the economy’s in the present state because when the Democrats took the House and Senate in 2006, you knew that those tax increases were going to come in 2010. The stock market began to collapse as soon as you recognized that those old tax rates were coming back. So, we’re in the middle of responding to those tax increases.
David Sirota, who was on the CNBC show as well, notes that Norquist’s absurd argument was laughed at and immediately rejected by the host and the other guests on the show. The Financial Times’ Chrystia Freeland pointed out that “the stock market is collapsing because the U.S. and global financial system is in crisis.” Watch it:
Though economists might disagree over what the exact causes of the financial crisis are, Norquist’s assertion is laughable. Indeed, if he wants to find a real culprit, he should look at the Bush administration’s utter failure to supervise our mortgage, lending and financial markets properly while also ignoring the ailing U.S. housing market.
Transcript:
HOST: Question is really, should Obama obandon — abandon, rather, his original tax plan. For that, we want to go to David Sirota, syndicated columnist and author of The Uprising. Also, Grover Norquist, president of Americans for Tax Reform, and Chrystia Freeland. Grover, I’ll begin with you. Great to see all of you, by the way. Grover, the president-elect’s tax plan calls for raising taxes on those making more than $250 K. Is a tax hike appropriate given the state of the economy right now?NORQUIST: Well, the economy’s in the present state because when the Democrats took the House and Senate in 2006, you knew that those tax increases were going to come in 2010. The stock market began to collapse as soon as you recognized that those old tax rates were coming back. So, we’re in the middle of responding to those tax increases.
HOST: Uhh, I don’t know Grover. Christia, would you agree with the — I mean, to a certain extent the stock market’s collapsing because of the subprime crisis.
FREELAND: No, I think it’s a little rich to…yeah, no, not to a certain extent. The stock market is collapsing because the U.S. and global financial system is in crisis. It’s in a greater crisis than it has been since 1929. And that’s according to John Thain, CEO of Merrill Lynch, a Republican all his life. So, this about much more than what’s going to happen on the tax rates that the wealthiest Americans pay.
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As with William Kristol, when was the last time Grover was correct about anything that seeped from his mouth? Yawn.
November 25th, 2008 at 5:50 pmLet me guess. Grover’s answer is to deregulate and cut taxes.
November 25th, 2008 at 5:50 pmI’m just amazed that he didn’t parrot the “it’s all Clinton’s fault” idiocy yet again. The man needs to be hospitlized and given a major course of electroshock with Prozac chasers, just as a start. A person who’s so obviously reality-challenged has No business being at large! Lord, when will the crazies just Go Away!
November 25th, 2008 at 5:53 pmImpeach, while There’s Still Time!
When someone can explain to me why a parent names their kid Grover and how a kid named Grover could have possible grown up to not be a totally scared, angry, and scared adult, I might give a shit what this idiot thinks.
November 25th, 2008 at 5:54 pmthe second scared was supposed to be frustrated
November 25th, 2008 at 5:54 pmThe Republican Daily Schedue:
Get up.
Screw up.
Blame the Democrats.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w12edTq2v7A
November 25th, 2008 at 5:54 pmThe real question is why people like Norquist, who have been spectacularly wrong about everything, continue to be plastered all over cable news as if they have anything of value to add to the national discussion.
November 25th, 2008 at 5:59 pmSo when is it that we don’t have to listen to the blathering of these buffoons anymore. Oh that’s never because it appears that there is an inexhaustible supply of them
November 25th, 2008 at 6:09 pmYou have to love Grover as K Street King with the Abramoff scam. Grover lost his KKK card when he married a Pakistan lady because no American woman would take him even with his money. Now the Pakistan lady now is a US citizen so much for Homeland Security checking on these marriages. Some American just might believe Grover but for those who have a brain, we remember the blank check 109th Congress. Yes from 2000-2006 is just give out all the money the White House wanted and more.
November 25th, 2008 at 6:10 pmHe’s just another cog in the machine, going through the motions because it’s all he knows… This ain’t yo’ daddy’s economic recession.
November 25th, 2008 at 6:10 pmNow there’s an economic hack, otherwise known as a political genius.
A master of “after this, therefore because of this”. And the cause is always the other team.
People with knowledge make predictions based on theory. Grover’s ranting that “the 2008 credit implosion is due to anticipated 2010 tax increases” is patently laughable.
Here’s my theory. Grover is a hypercompetitive win-lose political operative who will spin anything against his opponent. I’ll be happy to test that vs. his economic predictions.
November 25th, 2008 at 6:13 pmWhy do you keep reporting the babblings of these idiots? For the past eight years their statements may have carried some weight or reflected some new movement of the neocon nitwits but since the election their quotes are little more than verbal diarrhea and only serve to remind the country of where we have been not where we are going.
November 25th, 2008 at 6:13 pmBy that “logic” one would need to give the Dems credit for the gains over the last three business days. The hope for regime change is already strengthening the market. Right Grover?
Grover? Hello?
November 25th, 2008 at 6:27 pmNORQUIST: Well, the economy’s in the present state because when the Democrats took the House and Senate in 2006, you knew that those tax increases were going to come in 2010.
Mucking Foron
November 25th, 2008 at 6:29 pmMy cat has about as much insight as Grover and is really fluffy and cute. Can he get a gig on CNBC?
November 25th, 2008 at 6:32 pmCretins!
Damn them Democrats with all their deregulation and putting lobbyists in charge of regulatory agencies – owai…
Everybody knows the 110th Congress has been utterly ineffective. Whether that’s because they’re such wimps or because the R’s are such great obstructionists is another question. But given that they’re so ineffective, you can’t really blame them for anything.
November 25th, 2008 at 6:33 pmYesterday, I got so mad at Miles O’Brien (subbing for Wolf Blitzer) that I wanted to throw something at the tv. Donna Brazile was talking about Obama using people from the Clinton administration:
BRAZILE: Remember, they created record employment, a record number of people who were in homes. They reduced the level of poverty in our country. And, of course, they got us to a balanced budget and even left a surplus. So, I think, by bringing these seasoned people into Washington, that’s a good thing.
O’BRIEN: And, of course, they had the benefit of good economic times. And this administration is starting in a big hole.
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When Bill Clinton took over from GHW Bush, there was a bad recession, unemployment was about 7.5%, we had record $250 billion annual deficits, and interest on the debt was about $125 billion a year. Clinton and a Democratic congress cut the deficit in half the first budget with not a single Republican vote!
Clinton took us to a $250 billion annual surplus and 3.9% unemployment. We are currently at 6.5% unemployment and could be a Trillion dollar FY2009 deficit.
The morning after a 2004 Democratic Primary debate, Miles O’Brien said “The questions from last night are: Who won?, Who lost?, and Who CARES?.
To tell CNN what you think of Miles O’Brien, go here:
http://www.cnn.com/feedback/forms/form4.html?14
Liberal media, my butt!
November 25th, 2008 at 6:34 pmNorquist speaks in opposites.
Its how you attack others with your weakness.
November 25th, 2008 at 6:38 pmNORQUIST: Well, the economy’s in the present state because when the Democrats took the House and Senate in 2006, you knew that those tax increases were going to come in 2010.
He’s so addicted to his talking points. The tax increase he alludes to is simply the natural, and already legislated expiration of the current tax schedule. Essentially, the tax rate would revert to Clinton-era levels. They cry about it now, but republicans at the time also wanted the tax to expire, and it was one of the “bi-partisan” pieces of legislation they used, both as a symbol of their ability to reach bi-partisan consensus, and as a campaign-fundraising tool.
Unless one could predict that Bush would be so unpopular at the end of his term that by then the Democrats would be in control of both houses, why would one naturally assume that in 2010, the democrats would be in a position to allow the tax to expire?
Of course, they were betting they’d be in control by now, with a permanent majority. But the fall-back strategy seems to have been to leave this sunsetting tax like an unexploded political mine for the democrats, if they achieved control.
And of course, Grover’s shooting his trusty rhetorical sling-shot, to bean any democrats who might try defuse it.
November 25th, 2008 at 6:42 pmA tacit admission that the
Hey Grover, start with the Gramm/Leech/Bliley Act in 1999 (with a republican controlled congress) that sent the deregulation fiasco into a full feeding frenzy that the neocons and CEO’s have been enjoying for the past 8-9 years. Short-sighted, full-blown greed that people like you facilitated and encouraged and benefited from.
Why do they keep giving this un-American shitstain a forum to spew his smegma drenched blather?
November 25th, 2008 at 6:44 pmTranslation: “Oogedy-Boogety . . . it’s all the democrats’ fault. They sure better not raise taxes on the rich. That will sink the country, for sure.”
Grover and the rest of GDumbya’s Keystone Kops have given up on fighting for their political lives . . . now they are just trying to keep their often-ill-gained wealth.
November 25th, 2008 at 6:45 pmCEO takes a pay cut 2:20
November 25th, 2008 at 6:45 pmJapan Airlines’ CEO slashes his pay below the pay of pilots. CNN’s Kyung Lah reports
http://peterrost.blogspot.com/2008/11/ceo-in-japan-vs-us.html
Wow…yer so smart grover,I want to invite you to our group: ‘Visit the Sun’…rocket leaving next week.
November 25th, 2008 at 6:46 pmA tacit admission that they knew Bush was so incompetent, but that pegging the dems as tax-raisers was one of the few ways they might regain power, if the sun-setted tax was legislated just right.
November 25th, 2008 at 6:47 pmIf we were not in debt $11 TRILLION, there would be no tax increases. It is not done for the fun of it!
November 25th, 2008 at 6:50 pmCan we shrink this guy enough to drown him in the bath tub?
November 25th, 2008 at 6:51 pmGrover’s self-appointed mission is to eliminate government and let the free, unregulated market run amok.
He nearly got his wish.
Now will someone fill the tub?
Investment banker thought bubble: hmm, the Dems won control of Congress, which means that in two, four or six years I might suffer a moderate tax increase. I think I’ll trash my entire investment portfolio right now: buy credit default swaps!
Yeah, that makes sense. Can’t tax the rich if they all drive themselves into the poorhouse first.
November 25th, 2008 at 6:52 pmIt is not done for the fun of it!
Unless you’re a republican, using “bipartisan” legislation that results in the democrats being tagged as tax-and-spenders — again.
To them it’s high comedy.
November 25th, 2008 at 6:54 pmI can guarantee the economy’s present state is the result of a monopoly controlling the supply of money. Obama, just like pasts presidents before him (except for JFK, and we all know what happened to him), will not end this monopoly.
November 25th, 2008 at 6:56 pmEconomics made simple: when you send jobs overseas by the millions and when you do nothing tangible to stimulate the economy people tend to lose their buying power. When Wall Street collapses under the weight of worthless paper generated from all the convoluted financial contrivances designed to enrich the few at the expense of the many you get the economy we have today.
This is why you always hear republicans crying about “big government” all the time. Its just a nicer way of saying ‘lets deregulate so we can steal all the money we can.’ Republicans don’t give a damn about the government, big or small. They only care about gorging themselves and their corporate handlers with our money. Free and clear, no investigations, no worries, no answers.
November 25th, 2008 at 6:56 pmFun factoid: Grover has to part his hair before he takes a piss.
The trouble with America, as I see it, is that we’re too forgiving of Republicans and too quick to endlessly condemn Democrats for far lesser crimes. Hopefully, Bush will prove to be a useful idiot and to serve as an object lesson as to what happens when you let Republicans run the roost.
But, frankly, I doubt it. This, too, shall pass.
November 25th, 2008 at 6:59 pmMarie Says: #26
I totally agree. I’d love nothing more than to see Grover Norquist shrunken and squeezed (investigated for information and complicitness in the Bush/Cheney 8 year crime spree). The only thing that should be drowned in a bathtub is the neocon ideolgy once and for all.
November 25th, 2008 at 7:04 pmNorquist: ‘The Economy’s In The Present State’ Because of Democrats”
Well, how about that, Republicans had nothing to do about it for the last 14 years.
Who would have thought!!!
Translation – The rich should pay no taxes at all, corporations either.
November 25th, 2008 at 7:09 pmUnsurprisingly, it took less than 24 hours for the conservative chattering classes to blame the Bush recession on President-elect Barack Obama. The usual suspects, including Rush Limbaugh, Fred Barnes and Dick Morris, pinned two days of steep stock market declines on Obama’s election. Of course, the recent bloodbath on Wall Street has nothing to do with Obama and everything to do with what John McCain deemed “the fundamentals of our economy” being weak. And as history shows time and again, the American economy and stock market almost always do better under Democratic presidents.
For the details, see:
November 25th, 2008 at 7:11 pm“Conservatives Blame Bush Recession on Obama.”
The thing is Grover KNOWS he is lying. This is just reflex. When a wingnut like Grover gets hemmoroids he blames them on Dems in general and Clinton in particular
November 25th, 2008 at 7:16 pmdbadass Says:
When someone can explain to me why a parent names their kid Grover and how a kid named Grover could have possible grown up to not be a totally scared, angry, and scared adult, I might give a shit what this idiot thinks.
Dude. He’s not to be blamed for being named like that. That’s his parents’ fault.
But he’s entirely responsible for his laughable ideas.
November 25th, 2008 at 7:17 pmhttp://www.light-to-dark.com/suicide_by_neo_con.html
Norquist’s ideology is no match for actual reality. He wants to play it out. Fine. Please, don’t stand in the little fellas’ way.
November 25th, 2008 at 7:22 pmToo bad Grover that the last election proved people don’t buy that. They KNOW it’s the fault of the Republicans. All of it. You did this to us. To hell with you and your party.
November 25th, 2008 at 7:23 pmUsing 2006 as a cut off line, we had ten years of deregulation (Starting with Newt and his minions.) and six of tax breaks for the rich. By the right wing’s measure our economy should be booming. It is best that Norquist blame the Democrats for he doesn’t have the tongue to explain in any other way the complete and utter failure of the Republican party.
November 25th, 2008 at 7:31 pmjohnfive Says:
I can guarantee the economy’s present state is the result of a monopoly controlling the supply of money. Obama, just like pasts presidents before him (except for JFK, and we all know what happened to him), will not end this monopoly.
And you know this how? I have news for you. Just because YOU say something doesn’t make it true. Why don’t you take your Obama predictions somewhere where you will be appreciated. redstate.com comes to mind. They will love you.
November 25th, 2008 at 7:38 pmAngryOne Says:
Unsurprisingly, it took less than 24 hours for the conservative chattering classes to blame the Bush recession on President-elect Barack Obama. The usual suspects, including Rush Limbaugh, Fred Barnes and Dick Morris, pinned two days of steep stock market declines on Obama’s election.
But, of course, they are not giving Obama credit for the rebound in the stock market. It’s only Obama’s fault when it tanks.
November 25th, 2008 at 7:39 pmjohnfive Says:
I can guarantee the economy’s present state is the result of a monopoly controlling the supply of money. Obama, just like pasts presidents before him (except for JFK, and we all know what happened to him), will not end this monopoly.
Holy frijoles, it’s a “Fed is eebil” conspiracy theorist!
And how, pray tell, would control of the monetary supply be implemented competitively? And what happened the last time that it was?
November 25th, 2008 at 7:51 pmOhmigod. The headline sounds stupid enough.
Then I read what ol’ Grover actually had to say.
Golleeeee. It seems for once TP was soft-selling the story. The economy is in the shitter because the tax cuts are going to expire two years from now?
Dayum. That is some Industrial-Strength Stupid.
November 25th, 2008 at 7:59 pmThat is an absolute farce from Norquist, but it’s hardly a defense of the Dems to say that. They did nothing to stop Bush’s economic destruction for two years – the present impotent dissent from Congress included.
http://www.sunstateactivist.org/ssablog/
November 25th, 2008 at 8:08 pmHas Grover lost so much credibility that he could easily be drowned in a bathtub?
November 25th, 2008 at 8:09 pmWell, you’re so smart. You must know what comes next then since the dems aren’t being strangled by republicans anymore.
Prosperity, just in time for the reps to try to stage a comeback…….It will be different this time though….we have the internet. We remember and we document……sad time in history for liars and thieves….republicans in other words.
November 25th, 2008 at 8:33 pmEvery time Gomer opens his mouth, the collective IQ of his audience slips 10 points.
Just because a lunitic has an opposing opinion doesn’t mean they should be given airtime.
November 25th, 2008 at 8:39 pmEvery time Gomer opens his mouth, the collective IQ of his audience slips 10 points.
Just because a lunitic has an opposing opinion doesn’t mean they should be given airtime.
November 25th, 2008
Yes and they don’t have 10 points among all of them to give away.
November 25th, 2008 at 8:55 pmjo6pac
Why don’t they handcuff this thug along with Ralph Reed and put them in a cell with Abramoff where they belong. Nothing this guy says should be relevant.
November 25th, 2008 at 8:57 pmand why does this guy continue to get a microphone and calls for interviews?
November 25th, 2008 at 9:10 pmI’ll acknowledge the existence of just and merciful ‘god’ in the hour I learn Grover Norquist has drowned in a bathtub.
I await your judgment, ‘lord.’ How bad do you want me?
November 25th, 2008 at 9:12 pmRemember folks, the stock market is a delicate flower that wilts years before the potential possibility of tax increases for the wealthy. The only way it could possibly have a chance to grow is in a permanent Republican majority. Even the faintest breath of a hint of a chance of a Democratic victory kills it dead.
Seriously, conservatives, toughen up. If we can survive through your horrifically clumsy attempts at governance, surely you can make it through ours.
November 25th, 2008 at 9:20 pmJust out of curiosity, do any of all y’all recall the name of the Secretary of Treasury who helped Phil Gramm push the repeal of Glass/Steagal?
Lawrence (”Larry”) Summers…
Sorta makes ya wonder who’s priorities and loyalties are being seen to? Summers, who was in up to his scrawny neck on the original scam to deregulate, is Mr. O’s ranking economic advisor?
Gee, i wouldn’t want to disturb the worshipful regard or the idolatrous prayers, but there’s something about that picture that doesn’t inspire the kind of confidence you’d think you’d want, facing the wors economic crisis in 75 years, it seems to me. Summers isn’t a fox in the hen-house, he’s Colf ucking Sanders in the hen house…
November 25th, 2008 at 9:22 pmPost hoc, ergo propter hoc, Grover.
November 25th, 2008 at 9:36 pm#54 tokin librul Says:
And since the original deregulation of those instruments the Rethuglican majority existed how many years without their correcting the error? How many thugs in the crime family made fortunes from those instruments? Who will Summers be working for? Who will be setting the policy? Who will be responsible for reversing the original error? Get it, moron?
November 25th, 2008 at 9:55 pmThis is such a phenomenal mess that it is up to all of us to call out people like Norquist and Phil Gramm and Greenspan and Paulson and all the other Friedman maniacs who got us here. Prosecution for simple theft needs to happen in February. Unfortunately, I don’t see any inclination to fine these clowns for their crimes. Deals have gone down and there is nothing any of us can do about that. We will pay, they will skate, and we are all poor now. I have been fairly poor my whole life, so I know how to survive. Those who made $10 million or more last year on a bunch of bull should be held responsible. Nah, the senators are their friends.
November 25th, 2008 at 10:01 pmtokin librul Says:
Who is Mr. O’s?
You are not trying to disrespect President-Elect Barack Obama are you? Are YOU?
LOL Pathetic
November 25th, 2008 at 10:04 pmHas anyone else heard that Ann Coulter broke her jaw last month and had to get it wired shut this week?
Now if we can just get her to break her arachnid hands, life would be perfect.
November 25th, 2008 at 10:13 pmstewarjt Says:
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Post hoc, ergo propter hoc, Grover.
Heh, did you look that up today because of the Stein/Cavuto shouting match today, too?
November 25th, 2008 at 10:14 pmNorquist: ‘The Economy’s In The Present State’ Because Democrats Took Control Of Congress In 2006»
These idiot freaks are still gasping for air and so hoping the public does not understand or know about the word filibuster.
November 25th, 2008 at 10:16 pmNorquist needs to take his message on the road to like-minded people…like those on Sesame Street. Maybe the real Grover could put this Grover’s funny money points over with those whose minds haven’t yet developed.
November 25th, 2008 at 10:24 pmActually, JFK issued treasury notes, based on silver, in competition with the Fed, and look what happened to him. That’s what he meant…
November 25th, 2008 at 10:30 pmCan someone explain to me how it is a good thing to privatize the bank that makes and controls our actual money? Shouldn’t that at least be the role of government?
Mr. and Mrs. Norquist had a son. They named him Grover.
Bwaaaahahahahaha!
November 25th, 2008 at 10:36 pmI’m still waiting for bush’s tax cuts to kick in and user in that era of prosperity he promised that tax cuts and deregulation would provide………
November 25th, 2008 at 10:43 pmkick in and usher in that era
November 25th, 2008 at 10:44 pmNorquist: ‘The Economy’s In The Present State’ Because Democrats Took Control Of Congress In 2006
The GOP’s (in)famous “personal responsibility” hard at work there , as usual ………..
November 25th, 2008 at 10:49 pmHe might have a point. If only the Dems could’ve taken control earlier than ‘06, the damage caused by the Republicans might have been minimized.
November 25th, 2008 at 10:53 pmWho was it who said “the buck stops here?”
Oh yeah, a Democrat.
November 25th, 2008 at 11:03 pmTypical Bush level root cause a-nalysis. It takes asking why six or seven times to find the real root cause.
Bushies live Groover don’t even get to one. Patent answer with no, as in zero investigation: It’s their enemies fault.
November 25th, 2008 at 11:12 pmWasn’t norquist saved while in a phone booth?
November 25th, 2008 at 11:19 pmjurassicpork Says:
Has anyone else heard that Ann Coulter broke her jaw last month and had to get it wired shut this week?
SHE DIDN’T FALL REALLY, SHE JUST BADLY DISLOCATED IT WHEN SHE TRIED TO SNAKE-SWALLOW A OVERWEIGHT GUINEA PIG
November 25th, 2008 at 11:41 pmI saw that about Coulter too. I hope that means that someone finally punched her.
November 25th, 2008 at 11:56 pmCouldn’t happen to a “nicer” person, pete. Hope it hurts like heck, too.
November 25th, 2008 at 11:58 pmShoulda put the quotation marks around “person” too.
November 26th, 2008 at 12:00 amGrover Norquist is an idiot……the financial industry has been allowed cheat and steal……..and now it is uncovered.
People (Standard & Poors … Moody’s) should go to jail……..
there is plenty of crime to go around ………
the banks got away with the flim flam, until the Chinese and Saudi’s wanted balance sheets……aaaaaaaahhhh!!! NO not balance sheets…..I hope Obama can undo this crap……..
Lenny Laks
November 26th, 2008 at 12:04 amMendocino, CA
ot:
Franken camp finds 6,400 uncounted absentee ballots
November 26th, 2008 at 12:34 amFor real, what normal person is named Grover? I suppose I should give a shit what some sorry ass guy named Elmo thinks as well or the random thoughts of a Big yellow Bird for that matter… Maybe the Count can amuse me by counting all the insignificant has been waspy dudes….
November 26th, 2008 at 12:38 amjurassicpork Says:
Has anyone else heard that Ann Coulter broke her jaw last month and had to get it wired shut this week?
1) It’s about damn time.
2) Must have taken a lot of wire.
3) You should have seen the other guy!
dbadass Says:
For real, what normal person is named Grover? I suppose I should give a shit what some sorry ass guy named Elmo thinks as well or the random thoughts of a Big yellow Bird for that matter… Maybe the Count can amuse me by counting all the insignificant has been waspy dudes….
Paulson: Seven hundred billion! Eight hundred billion! Nine Hundred billion! Ha ha haah, I love to count!
November 26th, 2008 at 12:49 amMore Republican “nuttery!” I don’t think these guys will ever assume blame for anything. It’s always the other guy’s fault.
I liked how Sirota took him to task.
November 26th, 2008 at 12:53 amFred Says:
00mpp00 Says:
but it’s hardly a defense of the Dems
Well, you’re so smart. You must know what comes next then since the dems aren’t being strangled by republicans anymore.
Prosperity, just in time for the reps to try to stage a comeback…….It will be different this time though….we have the internet. We remember and we document……sad time in history for liars and thieves….republicans in other words.
Fred you are so right.
repugs disregard for the constitution and laws make it very hard for any type of comeback. They don’t answer subpoenas and refuse to give a deposition.
repug lawlessness, greed and contempt is what lead to the crash. Trickle down doesn’t work because nothing trickles down.
November 26th, 2008 at 12:53 amMore Republican “nuttery!” I don’t think these guys will ever assume blame for anything. It’s always the other guy’s fault.
I liked how Sirota took him to task.
November 26th, 2008 at 12:55 amAlright so my Count thing doesn’t really work as it really isn’t amusing to ponder just how F’ed up things are. Bottom line is the rich will stay rich and not so rich will not. Still I’d like that pastry chef muppet to fall down the stairs and break the f ucking neck of every dipshit suit wearing non wiping the sweat off the brow asswipe because I produce nothing I think I matter because I live in some sort of weird CT Stepford Village with my lame ass MBA and my kids named Caitlin and Justin dipshit that thinks it is cool to “multitask”.
November 26th, 2008 at 1:00 amI like the Count but I prefer the Muppets. Animal, Beaker and Bunsen Honeydew were my faves :)
November 26th, 2008 at 1:04 amOOO- maybe the Repugs could do a reality “Pigs in Space”?
November 26th, 2008 at 1:07 amI was pretty sure the Clinton era economic policies were to blame or possibly those of the Carter administration.
November 26th, 2008 at 1:09 amThe Swedish Chef has really good health care and by all empirical standards is doing way better than Richie Cunningham or all other made up American icons…
November 26th, 2008 at 1:10 amDo horns come with that tale?
November 26th, 2008 at 1:13 amHey, dbadass, if you get the chance to smack RaptureRetard og bitbit again, give them this one for me since I always seem to miss them. I put it on the gay marriage/adoption thread but it was a bit late–
The King James version of the Bible that they like to thump was authorized by King James I of England, a known homosexual who had a lover named Steenie that he openly kissed in public on the mouth. He also Never bathed and his hands were as black and smooth as satin. He also liked to tromp in the entrails of the animals he killed so the gore crusted on his legs and garments.
November 26th, 2008 at 1:36 amNorquist should get the Count to further dumb down his kiddie economics that he tries to fluff as Ivy League/Washington think tank genius.
November 26th, 2008 at 1:57 amAs others have said here, why is Grover even given a platform for his crackpot views? The man has been consistently wrong on everything, yet he is still thought of as a legitimate pundit.
Is the MSM so desperate for “balance” that they will put any crackpot on, as long as he’s right wing?
November 26th, 2008 at 2:08 amActually, this is all Grover Cleveland’s fault.
November 26th, 2008 at 2:09 amwas that man…
really serious when he said this?
I mean..
was he loaded, drunk, high, or …maybe stoned?
should start a drug testing program…from the president down..all of em’..if you want to know who pays for it?
tell the oil companys to do it also..
they dealt in oil, drugs and …sex..
November 26th, 2008 at 2:26 amdidnt they?
laura bush did say bush had a cute a$$..
Grover’s disease is a rare, transient skin disorder that consists of small, firm, raised red lesions, most often on the skin of the chest and back. Diagnosis of this disorder becomes apparent under microscopic examination when the loss of the “cement” that holds the skin cells together is observed. Over time, as the skin loses the “cement”, the cells separate (lysis). Small blisters containing a watery liquid are present. These blisters tend to group and have a swollen red border around them. Grover’s disease is mainly seen in males older than forty or fifty. Its cause is unknown but it is thought to be related to trauma to sun damaged skin.
November 26th, 2008 at 2:37 amJackie Says:
You have to love Grover as K Street King with the Abramoff scam. Grover lost his KKK card when he married a Pakistan lady because no American woman would take him even with his money. Now the Pakistan lady now is a US citizen so much for Homeland Security checking on these marriages.
November 25th, 2008 at 6:10 pm
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She’s Palestinian, actually, not Pakistani. And she was always a US citizen. What she was thinking marrying Norquist is anybody’s guess.
November 26th, 2008 at 5:57 amNorquist is parroting the typical right-wing lies: the Democrats are responsible for the state of the economy. The Republicans are *not* immaculate! We rise and fall as one nation. If Mr. Norquist wishes to engage in the blame game, so be it. His laughable assertions only serve to lessen the credibility of the right-wingers.
In other news, Michelle Malkin is continuing to submit her hatred on her website. Let’s post there and show those right-wingers how crushing the absolute truth is, unfiltered and clear. That woman has fire in her heart.
November 26th, 2008 at 7:20 amHas he shrunk in relevance to the size that his head fits in a bathrub so we can drown him?
November 26th, 2008 at 8:21 amSKdeA Says:
Actually, JFK issued treasury notes, based on silver, in competition with the Fed, and look what happened to him. That’s what he meant…
Can someone explain to me how it is a good thing to privatize the bank that makes and controls our actual money? Shouldn’t that at least be the role of government?
REPEAL THE FEDERAL RESERVE ACT!!!!!!!
November 26th, 2008 at 8:30 amOh please, this moron can’t expect anyone to believe him, can he?!?!
http://www.lettersfromatory.com
November 26th, 2008 at 9:12 amThe current economic crisis is the result of the failure of unregulated, unfettered capitalism. It is not the result of the Democratic party winning a slim majority in Congress in 2006. It is not the result of the successful campaign of President-elect Barack Obama. It is, however, the unavoidable fruit of the under-regulation promoted by the GOP and its free-market purists who think that the magic market will solve all problems.
If anything, this economic crisis should demonstrate to all of us how bankrupt the ideology of people like Norquist really is. A properly regulated, well managed and responsible company is a successful one. Capitalists are incapable of regulating themselves. It is for their own safety and the security of the rest of us who also live in the same economy as the fat cats. We all win when we are all responsible.
November 26th, 2008 at 9:15 amOK Norquist, back to the basement with cheetos and porn, you fat slob of a hack.
November 26th, 2008 at 10:04 amDidn’t get to “drown it in the bathtub” did ya? Whiny little bastard, you go away now.
November 26th, 2008 at 11:20 amgrover is a beetledick
November 26th, 2008 at 12:46 pmYou’ve gotta love leftist propaganda. This site is full if it. It may be part of the reason I hate politics since most of it is shaped on lies by two groups that don’t actually represent the majority. All they are is the only choices we have.
Here’s some truth for you so you can stop deluding yourselves that everything bad in the world is done at the hands of Repbulicans and Democrats are perfect saints that will save us all…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MGT_cSi7Rs
Obama profited from the Crisis and was friends with a slumload who he abandoned to avoid tainting his campaign. The great “Messiah” Obama is a false God who has done nothing yet to be given such devotion.
December 4th, 2008 at 9:13 pm