Obama Takes Down Media’s ‘Conventional Wisdom’: ‘The Vision For Change Comes From Me’
Obama Takes Down Media’s ‘Conventional Wisdom’: ‘The Vision For Change Comes From Me’
During a press conference earlier today, CNN’s Ed Henry challenged President-elect Barack Obama on his naming of some recent appointees who have had experience serving in the government. “What do you say to your supporters looking for change?” Henry wondered. Obama noted that there is a “conventional wisdom floating around Washington that ‘well, there’s a recycling of people who were in the Clinton administration.’”
Addressing the media criticism directly, Obama explained:
It would be surprising if I selected a Treasury secretary who had had no connection with the last Democratic administration because that would mean the person had no experience in Washington whatsoever. And I suspect you would be troubled and the American people would be troubled if I selected a Treasury secretary or a chairman of the National Economic Council…who had no experience whatsoever.
Obama said his personnel selections will “combine experience with fresh thinking.” But he underscored that the buck stops with him:
But understand where the vision for change comes from first and foremost. It comes from me. That’s my job — is to provide a vision in terms of where we are going and to make sure that my team is implementing it.
Watch it:
Obama concluded, “What I don’t want to do is to somehow suggest that because you served in the last Democratic administration that you’re somehow barred from serving again — because we need people are going to be able to hit the ground running.”
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OMG…a *smart* president!!
OoooOOOoooOOooh!! Somebody fan me – I feel faint (in a good way)!!!!
November 26th, 2008 at 11:55 amWe have had only 2 democratic presidents since 1968 – 40 years! Where the hell else would he get experienced democrats?
I too am a little wary of all these familiar faces, but one of the reasons I voted for the O man was I trust his judgment. Sure, these people have served before, but as Obama said, they will be implementing HIS policies, not Clinton’s or Carter’s.
November 26th, 2008 at 11:55 amI think he may have been speaking to the folks like those here who have felt strongly about prejudging the new administration. I wonder if they were listening…
November 26th, 2008 at 11:57 amAn excellent response from the next POTUS. He brings the vision, his team provides the necessary experience to implement the policies that carry Barack’s vision, and the nation (hopefully) will benefit as a result.
November 26th, 2008 at 11:59 amOh no. That can’t be true. Kay and the other naysayers here have stridently told us that because Obama has hired experienced people from the Clinton Administration that means that the Clinton people will be making policy. Could it be that they are wrong?
This is what I have been saying all along. Obama doesn’t have the luxury of being able to hire people he likes and admires who have no experience. That is not how to hit the ground running and Obama is certainly going to need to be able to do that. I expect he will hire the people he likes in positions where they can learn how Washington works and then when the experienced people move on, he will have newly trained experienced people who might have been his first choice if he had the luxury of time.
November 26th, 2008 at 12:02 pmstateofthedivision, got your ears on?
November 26th, 2008 at 12:04 pmThank you, Mr. President, for easing my cynicism.
November 26th, 2008 at 12:05 pmSwedishSkinJer Says:
An excellent response from the next POTUS. He brings the vision, his team provides the necessary experience to implement the policies that carry Barack’s vision, and the nation (hopefully) will benefit as a result.
It seems to me that most people voted for him because they liked his vision. So, how about we let him be the President before we sit in judgment on what he is doing. I really don’t care who he hires as long as he gets the job done. If he screws up, he will hear from us. But until and unless that happens, we all need to give him our support.
November 26th, 2008 at 12:05 pmVery eloquently said, Bilbo. What the right-wingers don’t seem to grasp is that, while Obama’s team ultimately implements the policies with their respective abilities under office, they work under his authority. I’m sure Barack will be gracious enough to ask for their opinion, form a general “consensus” on an issue, and speak directly to us before any drastic changes are made. The American people cannot face the continuation of Bush’s strategy, which would encompass keeping us normal citizens out of the know.
His YouTube/Internet speeches will be very interesting. Reaching out to Americans on the Internet is a powerful way to connect with the youth and articulate a clear, understandable message.
November 26th, 2008 at 12:05 pmConsidering the source, Ed Henry, it’s at best a half-assed question from an semi-NeoNut..you gotta ask what delivery of the Cheeney Koolaide did Ed get….BUT,
You must admit that the answer is right on the money..The buck stops with the top..period.
The sooner the nutbag right gets the message that they are barking up the wrong tree when condemning O’s choices, the better, but will they ever let up or talk themselves into oblivion?? I vote for the second option – oblivion – so they’ll self-destruct !! AMF!
November 26th, 2008 at 12:06 pmPersonally, I voted for Barack because I didn’t like McCain that much, and Palin only worsened my view of him. Let’s hope that Barack’s team does well.
November 26th, 2008 at 12:06 pmYeah, we can’t have people from a sucessful administration helping with Obama’s admin.
Not to detract from your valid point Bilbo but I just don’t see the problem……
November 26th, 2008 at 12:09 pmI am glad he came out and said this, I still have my reservations, serious ones as I noted yesterday, on his asking Gates to stay on, but I will hold further judgment on that until I see the results. And he can always show Gates the door if he doesn’t follow his orders.
November 26th, 2008 at 12:09 pmY’know, it is just impossible to not like this guy.
I was watching his news conference yesterday and just marvelling at his glibness. Clinton was glib, but toward the end that worked against him because I couldn’t believe anything he said. Bush….ditto, but in addition, I couldn’t UNDERSTAND anything he said.
I am really glad Obama came out and made this statement directly. It needed to be said. What I fear is that he underestimates the power and truculence of the entrenched bureaucracy and the way in which his appointments – especially at State – are going to resist his directives.
He has been compared to Woodrow Wilson (in addition to Lincoln, FDR, JFK and Siddhartha)and I think that is the best comparison. Incredibly smart, incredibly articulate. But Wilson’s Achilles heel was a belief in his own powers of persuasion that sometimes exceeded the reality. Obama clearly believes he can control all these people, many of whom think they are smarter and more experienced than him (*cough! Hillary!)…I hope he is careful.
November 26th, 2008 at 12:10 pmThe current Prez is pardoning turkeys and the Predident Elect is working on the economy. Why would anyone question PE Obama before he gets into office is behond me.
His choices under the current sercumstancses are brilliant and he put it best…they will be working to achieve my VISION of where we need to go. ENOUGH SAID….for now.
November 26th, 2008 at 12:11 pmFred Says:
stateofthedivision, got your ears on?
LMAO
November 26th, 2008 at 12:11 pmI’m just enjoying all the rich irony of the Clinton haters during the primaries on this blog….and you know who you are.
You’re singing a different tune now, huh.
¶ AIO
November 26th, 2008 at 12:11 pmI expect he will hire the people he likes in positions where they can learn how Washington works and then when the experienced people move on, he will have newly trained experienced people who might have been his first choice if he had the luxury of time.
Good point, Bilbo.
1st term — Repairing the damage.
2nd term — Making the legacy of Change concrete.
Some examples are solidifying the national spirit not as a shop-until-you-drop nation, but as a nation invested in community service, parents turning of the TV and making their kids do their homework, and valuing the labor force.
November 26th, 2008 at 12:12 pmWhile I’m opposed to Gates — strongly opposed, in fact — I do believe that Obama will keep him in check. Let us not forget that his newly appointed national security adviser has been a decent critic of the Iraq War. Besides, I honestly doubt Gates will remain if he intends to act like a “rogue” secretary still stuck under Bush’s terrible, terrible shadow.
November 26th, 2008 at 12:14 pmThe R word is back, RESPONSIBLE! The L word is back, LEADER! After 8 years of the deciderer, it feels So good to have an genuine Statesman coming in! Someone willing to stand up and be strong, yet answerable! Here’s the pertinent Lincoln quote:
November 26th, 2008 at 12:14 pm“Be sure you put your feet in the right place, then stand firm.” I do believe We, the People, elected a man who will do both.
Once again, I hope that Congress will Impeach, while There’s Still Time!
Perhaps the media is so used to a president doing incredibly dumb shit that they are having trouble getting used to one who would think through stuff like this.
November 26th, 2008 at 12:14 pmIf you’re addressing this to me then you obviously don’t know what you’re talking about.
Additionally, your effort to drive wedges between progressives is unappreciated.
November 26th, 2008 at 12:17 pmNOLIESPLEASE Says:
The current Prez is pardoning turkeys…
Maybe Bush should have flown in Sarah the Turkey slayer Palin (and the whole family) to help him with that pardon.
Personally, I’d like to see Obama discontinue that frivolity.
¶ AIO
November 26th, 2008 at 12:17 pmWow, oh wow, a President Elect who sounds like a REAL PRESIDENT, how refreshing.
…can’t he just be President now, Bush can catch his plane to Paraguay now…
…buh bye, see ya, hope the Hague gets ya.
November 26th, 2008 at 12:19 pmEven though we have all been beaten bloody by the Bush administration these past eight years, I still have a memory. And as I recall the Clinton years were really pretty good to all of us.
The numbers show that unemployment was lower than it is now, that prosperity was better than it is now, that inflation was lower than it is now, that we didn’t have crippling deficits as we do now, and we generally felt good about ouselves, and so did the world. Bush has put all this in the crapper.
A few things aside, I’m ready to go back to the future, and if Obama needs Clinton-era people to do it, then keep calm and carry on! Give the man his chance.
November 26th, 2008 at 12:19 pmRighties need the strong authoritarian ruthless leader in order to feel safe, and now, I think we’re once again seeing these pathetic whining cowards make the same HUGE mistake of assuming that if someone is willing to listen to other points of view and to negotiate — that makes them weak.
From what *I’ve* seen so far from Obama – he is anything but weak.
Smart, decisive, charismatic, confident and powerful, yes.
Weak? Hell, no.
November 26th, 2008 at 12:21 pmWould Spock be Spock if he Captain Pike would have remained in command of the Enterprise?
No, it took Kirk to bring out the Spock we all know and love.
Don’t judge Spock because he served under another captain until you see how he serves under this captain.
There, my geek-dom revealed to all in one post.
November 26th, 2008 at 12:21 pmAye, I don’t see how pardoning a turkey is relevant to Thanksgiving nowadays. Sadly, only more will die after the event, and Bush could actually be doing something substantive for the amount of time it takes him to complete the photo-op. You know, work in a bipartisan fashion to address the economy?
I’m sure the turkey would’ve rather withered away than have Bush come within five feet of it.
November 26th, 2008 at 12:22 pmWell, that’s just pathetic and I would never have admitted it if I were you, especially here.
November 26th, 2008 at 12:23 pmFred:
Pathetic in what way? Palin was a barrel of contradictions, McCain had anti-progressive intentions, and I held the conviction that Barack would be the best candidate to achieve progress in this nation, both socially and economically. The positions he adopted during the primaries/election were very, very promising. He is well-spoken, highly intelligent, and seems to have the capacity to bring back Lincoln’s “work with your enemies” belief in a package that’s potentially more progressive.
So, I don’t exactly see how that’s pathetic.
November 26th, 2008 at 12:25 pmThanks to Keltoi. I think it’s a very good sign that some conservatives also like the new president.
November 26th, 2008 at 12:25 pmSwedishSkinJer Says:
Let us not forget that his newly appointed national security adviser has been a decent critic of the Iraq War
Yeah, James Jones refused to take Commander of U.S. Central Command under Bush and decided to retire instead. Something I commend him for. He is a good choice for NSA adviser, IMHO. Experience and a long distinguished record as a Marine.
November 26th, 2008 at 12:29 pmNow maybe the Monday morning quarterbacking will cease. Who am I kidding?
November 26th, 2008 at 12:30 pmWayne and Fred, f_uck off.
November 26th, 2008 at 12:31 pmYou said:
Which implied to me that mccain was at some point an option……..which I find astonishing and I find myself unable to reconcile your logic.
November 26th, 2008 at 12:31 pmWell, well. The campaign is over. The air is letting out of the balloons.
Of all the things to say about the past 10 days, it is stunning how Obama has rejected liberals, from Lieberman to Gates to Volcker, and worked to satisfy the right and the Broders of the world.
When will Obama extend his inclusiveness to liberals?
November 26th, 2008 at 12:32 pmstateofthedivision Says:
Wayne and Fred, f_uck off.
multiplying the division?
November 26th, 2008 at 12:34 pmAh, I see how my words could have been misconstrued. No, McCain was *never* an option. Certainly not. It would’ve been Democratic or a third-party for me, but I slowly but surely realized Barack’s ability to enact progressive policies and actually restore honor and dignity to the White House.
No, I would never abandon my principles and vote for McCain. I’m sorry that my words left you with that impression. By “I didn’t like him that much”, I was referring to his career. As a man, I’d say, he’s decent. Let’s not be inhumane. Palin, however…
Well, she was ten times worse. And then some.
November 26th, 2008 at 12:34 pmWhat, we’re not allowed to disagree with you or point out your obvious bias? This is the result of a dissenting opinion of one of your “statements of fact”?
November 26th, 2008 at 12:36 pmstateofthedivision Says:
Wayne and Fred, f_uck off.
No, I have no desire to fornicate with bug repellant.
But I will always make sure your lame attempts to smear will be met with facts. Too bad if that bothers you. =)
November 26th, 2008 at 12:36 pmYes, let’s not divide ourselves. We should reserve all of our wit and might for the conservatives and their ringmaster, Michelle Malkin. Her blog is undeserving of all of the attention it receives. You should have seen the horrific comments there after Barack’s grandmother passed on.
Shameful.
November 26th, 2008 at 12:36 pmSwedishSkinJer Says:
Sorry if I misunderstood where you stand……
November 26th, 2008 at 12:39 pmPerfect.
November 26th, 2008 at 12:40 pmChavez is my hero. He’s no bush.
November 26th, 2008 at 12:41 pmCompletely off-topic, but rant worthy:
That’s shameful and treasonous, even for him.
November 26th, 2008 at 12:43 pmEd Henry has covered a President who went with the flow, a hand puppent of the neo-conservatives with Dick Cheney calling the shots in the background. It should make sense that the President sets the vision and the cabinet carries out the mission of that vision. That is the way it is supposed to work.
November 26th, 2008 at 12:46 pm“When will Obama extend his inclusiveness to liberals?”
What matters is policy. For example, you might not think Tom Daschle is a liberal, but putting him in charge of Health and Human Services is evidence that Obama wants universal healthcare pushed through congress quickly. Sheparding legislation through congress is Daschle’s specialty. Obama’s new AG is on record as passionately against Bush torture policies, renditions and Guantanamo. His new Commerce Sec. is has been arguing for years that free-trade has to be balanced with labor interests. And, every potential Supreme Court nominee I’ve seen discussed leans towards the liberal side of the spectrum.
November 26th, 2008 at 12:47 pmvery classy way of saying “what kind of idiot question is that, Ed Henry? do you write for the 5th graders’ blog over at Valley Middle School?”
I hope Ed Henry felt stupid the rest of the day.
November 26th, 2008 at 12:50 pmMichael Savage’s surname couldn’t be more fitting, EnnuiDivine. The fact that he would claim that liberals want to invade schools is indicative that it is this hate-monger, and not US, who is the real threat to a civil society. He has even asserted that gay adoption equates to child abuse. He told a caller to contract AIDS once after a disagreement. He is a distasteful, horrible sack of right-wing bile.
November 26th, 2008 at 12:51 pm49erDem Says:
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“When will Obama extend his inclusiveness to liberals?”
What matters is policy. For example, you might not think Tom Daschle is a liberal, but putting him in charge of Health and Human Services is evidence that Obama wants universal healthcare pushed through congress quickly. Sheparding legislation through congress is Daschle’s specialty.
By the lights of my spectrum, Daschle is plenty liberal. But the genius of choosing him for H&S speaks volumes for Obama’s saavy. Everything you say above is true – Daschle is the perfect choice for the job.
Gates – the left may not love him, but it throws the right a bone and with the SOFA about to be put in place, it makes sense to leave Gates in awhile to see it implemented. With Petraues at CentCom and Gates at defense, Obama can focus on the economy.
Hillary at State – I am eager to be proven wrong that this is a disastrous choice. Obama will almost certainly come to rue this decision….
November 26th, 2008 at 12:52 pmOr perhaps the MSM enabled the president doing incredibly dumb shit and now they’re going to have to deal with a president who is intelligent and direct. It’s going to tax the limited imagination of the MSM.
November 26th, 2008 at 12:53 pmOne can only hope Obama is as good at firing has one hopes he is at hiring . . .
November 26th, 2008 at 12:53 pmSwedish: “Michael Savage’s surname couldn’t be more fitting, EnnuiDivine.”
You mean Weiner? Either pronunciation works fine.
November 26th, 2008 at 12:54 pmOT on michael savage:
EnnuiDivine Says: from your link:
And hitler started exterminating humans beginning with the mentally ill……
Sounds distintly like savage is saying hitler did the right thing for the right reasons……..anyone want to condemn me for calling him a nazi?
November 26th, 2008 at 12:57 pmKeltoi Says:
Y’know, it is just impossible to not like this guy.
I was watching his news conference yesterday and just marvelling at his glibness.
You know, from the context, I gather you use the word glib as a compliment -but you should really look up its meaning.
I have seen Obama’s interviews, speeches on various topics, and he hardly gives me the impression of being superficial, insincere, or lacking in knowledge on whatever subject he happens to be talking about.
November 26th, 2008 at 12:58 pmFred Says:
Chavez is my hero. He’s no bush.
Chavez a hero? He has done alot of wrong things, as well as some things that were right. Being NOT Bush doesn’t quite reach that pentacle for me.
I see heroes in people that actually help those in need, such as one of my friends that helps at a local homeless shelter, etc. And the NYC firemen that died trying to save people in the twin towers on 9/11
November 26th, 2008 at 12:59 pmSavage or Wiener both work fine. The man has no spine, no character, absolutely no credibility, and dares claim that we are the downfall of society when it is his bile that harms us.
November 26th, 2008 at 1:00 pmKeltoi, I think Clinton is a good choice for Sec State because she is already on a first-name basis with almost 80 world leaders and she’s a strong personality. I think the most prestigeous cabinet position is perfectly appropriate for someone for whom 18 million Democrats voted.
I think Gates is all about continuity. If we think al Qaeda really will attempt an attack during the transition or shortly after Obama takes office, it could be important to not distrupt that particular organization. That way, Obama can keep the continuity of the Defense Dept. for the time being while he deals with the economic meltdown.
November 26th, 2008 at 1:00 pmGregor Samsa Says:
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Keltoi Says:
Y’know, it is just impossible to not like this guy.
I was watching his news conference yesterday and just marvelling at his glibness.
You know, from the context, I gather you use the word glib as a compliment -but you should really look up its meaning.
I have seen Obama’s interviews, speeches on various topics, and he hardly gives me the impression of being superficial, insincere, or lacking in knowledge on whatever subject he happens to be talking about.
Well, I go with definition 1a that you offer. He IS a politician, Gregor, I question all of their sincerity. It is tough not to be cynical.
November 26th, 2008 at 1:01 pmThat particular passage from the Savage Weiner is illuminating because it suggests that he’s coming unglued. In it, he philosophically aligns himself with Germans who supported Hitler. He points out that they didn’t like perverts and proudly adds that he doesn’t like them either!
Nice going, Weiner. Keep talking.
November 26th, 2008 at 1:03 pm49erDem Says:
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Keltoi, I think Clinton is a good choice for Sec State because she is already on a first-name basis with almost 80 world leaders and she’s a strong personality. I think the most prestigeous cabinet position is perfectly appropriate for someone for whom 18 million Democrats voted.
Then why didn’t he pick her for VP?
Answer: He didn’t trust her. Neither should he. She is loyal to herself first, last and always. Mark my words, Obama will regret this before it is all said and done. I don’t doubt her credentials, I doubt her motivation.
November 26th, 2008 at 1:05 pmPoliticians generally are dishonest tools of the establishment, but here’s to hoping that the next administration allows America to once again repose its faith in the government. However, I hope that Barack also stresses individual responsibility and work in exchange for the tuition coverage he has offered.
November 26th, 2008 at 1:05 pmKeltoi Says:
Hillary at State – I am eager to be proven wrong that this is a disastrous choice. Obama will almost certainly come to rue this decision….
Piffle.
Clinton has repeatedly demonstrated an ability to play along to get along and I think all the concern about her backstabbing Obama is silly. As SecState, she has nothing to gain by thwarting his policies, and everything to lose. If she ticks him off she can be fired immediately, unlike her current job. Furthermore, there has been no indication that her views on foreign policy differ from his, other than her dirty record on Iraq.
November 26th, 2008 at 1:09 pmHas he been perfect, of course not.
The uplifting of individual rights and movement to the left of Latin American countries have benifited greatly from Hugo’s efforts. Millions of people are better off because of Hugo Chavez.
November 26th, 2008 at 1:11 pmFred Says:
Yeah, we can’t have people from a sucessful administration helping with Obama’s admin.
Not to detract from your valid point Bilbo but I just don’t see the problem……
November 26th, 2008 at 12:09 pm
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Let’s not kid ourselves here – the Clinton administration wasn’t all that successful from a progressive perspective – NAFTA, GATT, financial deregulation, increased government privatization, the starving of Iraq, supporting Suharto, just to name a few. Yes, Clinton had some successes – I won’t deny that. But we shouldn’t sugar-coat his record either.
That having been said, I’m glad to hear this coming from Obama. It does put a lot of my concerns at ease. I hope that it is indeed the case that the people he’s choosing for these White House and Cabinet positions will be implementers rather than the influencers. And if all goes well and this administration is able to stop the economic skid, we can begin to pressure Obama to adopt more and more progressive policies in the later years of his administration.
November 26th, 2008 at 1:16 pmFred Says:
The uplifting of individual rights and movement to the left of Latin American countries have benifited greatly from Hugo’s efforts. Millions of people are better off because of Hugo Chavez.
I’m not sure that’s true, especially after listening to a segment on NPR earlier this week. I believe that Chavez wants to do well for millions of people, and that he has for the first time raised the profile of the poor in Venezuela, but his actual programs do not appear to have accomplished much.
Worse, he appears to be completely invested in the cult of personality and the belief that he is the State–much like Castro’s inability to separate himself from the Revolution and Cuba’s citizens.
November 26th, 2008 at 1:18 pmPerfect reply from Obama.
November 26th, 2008 at 1:19 pmI would say that, overall, Clinton was a more progressive president than Bush. Some of his decisions were atrocious, but he had charisma, the ability to connect with Americans, and some noteworthy successes. As regrettable as some of his mistakes were, Bush has erred far more than Clinton.
I suspect that Obama will be able to perform better than both of them. His idea of using the Internet to connect with Americans is fabulous, and I’m anticipating some of his direct-to-America messages. If he can take advantage of technology and provide us with unprecedented insight into how he intends to enact his policies, I think we’ll be living under a transparent administration.
As much as I dislike his support for FISA…well, I’m willing to turn the other way and see if the government Obama will control is honest and free. I have more reason to think that it will be, as opposed to the opposite.
November 26th, 2008 at 1:22 pmFred Says:
Yeah, we can’t have people from a sucessful administration helping with Obama’s admin.
toasterhead replies:
I was just judging on the basics. Prosperity, balanced budget, debt clock running backwards, job creation, such as that.
These are the things that must be addressed first…..from that perspective Clinton was pretty sucessful.
November 26th, 2008 at 1:33 pmHey FRED # 22; I really wasn’t referring to you, honestly, you’re not that important to me.
Do you have a guilty conscience?
Does the shoe fit?
¶ AIO
November 26th, 2008 at 1:37 pmKeltoi Says:
It is tough not to be cynical.
Fair enough. I am a cynic too.
Having said that, it’s hard not to be hopeful. Seriously, there is no way Barack Obama could do any worse than the current occupant of the White House. If he does, the current financial meltdown will be the least of our concerns.
November 26th, 2008 at 1:45 pmI don’t think there’s any possible way Barack could do worse than George Bush. He would have to deliberately and carelessly stand by while America sunk before him like the Titanic — just with more resounding consequences. Judging from the appointments he has made thus far, I must say that I remain cautiously optimistic.
We could have a very progressive president.
November 26th, 2008 at 1:47 pmKeltoi: “Then why didn’t he pick her for VP?”
There are at least three possibilities: 1. maybe she didn’t want the VP position; 2. maybe she feels Secretary of State is a more powerful and prestegeous position; and 3. maybe she’s honestly dedicated to doing what’s best for the country and the new administration.
Let’s keep in mind Krugman’s “Clinton rules.” The “Clinton Rules” dictate that every decision or action by a Clinton will be judged through a prism of assuming the worst of intentions and motives. I don’t believe in the Clinton rules.
November 26th, 2008 at 1:47 pmWe voted for change from Bush & his cronies. I think most people are comfortable with experience and people who worked with Clinton. This is a bogus issue. Move on.
November 26th, 2008 at 1:56 pmA smack down with a ” How you like me now”. It’s about time we had a real President it’s been 8 long years.
November 26th, 2008 at 2:12 pmRUCerious Says:
Perhaps the media is so used to a president doing incredibly dumb shit that they are having trouble getting used to one who would think through stuff like this.
Exactly! Bush needed “handlers” to make sure he stayed on point and those “handlers” spent many a moment cringing. Obama is Obama’s handler – or more precisely, he is a leader!
November 26th, 2008 at 2:20 pmWell of course Obama will govern better than Bush. What I hope is that he governs better than even FDR. That’s what we need to avoid a world-wide great depression.
November 26th, 2008 at 2:23 pmWayne Says:
I am glad he came out and said this, I still have my reservations, serious ones as I noted yesterday, on his asking Gates to stay on, but I will hold further judgment on that until I see the results. And he can always show Gates the door if he doesn’t follow his orders.
Exactly! And less shredding from the crooks.
November 26th, 2008 at 2:40 pmalphainfinityomega Says:
I’m just enjoying all the rich irony of the Clinton haters during the primaries on this blog….and you know who you are.
You’re singing a different tune now, huh.
So you equate the VP and SOS as the same?
November 26th, 2008 at 2:45 pmGame of Life Says:
So you equate the VP and SOS as the same?
Nope; If I were Obama I’d feel a lot “safer” with Hil. at SOS.
¶ AIO
November 26th, 2008 at 3:24 pm______
49erDem Says:
That particular passage from the Savage Weiner is illuminating because it suggests that he’s coming unglued. In it, he philosophically aligns himself with Germans who supported Hitler. He points out that they didn’t like perverts and proudly adds that he doesn’t like them either!
Nice going, Weiner. Keep talking.
November 26th, 2008 at 1:03 pm
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I disagee with Savage on almost everything, but I’m right there with him on proudly saying I don’t like perverts. ;)
November 26th, 2008 at 11:37 pmMy apologies for using coarse language. I responded to the anger brothers in kind. For that, I regret. Best wishes to all.
November 29th, 2008 at 12:59 pmupright left Says:
Yes But the Wienerdog said that about gay marriage so if what you are saying is you agree with him that gay people are perverts then you are a bigot and a moron just like he is.
November 30th, 2008 at 3:50 am