And our current private insurance health care system is also rationed–more than 45 million Americans have no health care coverage at all.

So much for the rationing argument.

- Tom
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Not to mention our healthcare is rationed right now by HMOs. The ONLY difference a national healtcare system would make even IF what Timmeh the moron said was true is that a beauracrat with NO financial stake in rationing would make the decisions instead of an HMO monkey whose JOB and financial benifit is to DENY and limit claims

Timmeh you complete moron. How can you be so ignorant and SO condescending at the same time? When will you face the FACT you are a bone ignorant, uninformed, brainwashed idiot who NEVER knows what you are talking about. You are also a liar and a fool FRANCE which has the Best rated healthcare in the WORLD is a national healthcare system. You just think things become true because you say them and because you were TOLD to believe them. You are simply a moron. Nice try shoehorning the talking point about medicine costing so much because big Pharma has to do research and development and YET they spend more on ADVERTISING than they do R&D you simpering baboon. Also a WHOLE lot of R&D is done with our TAX DOLLARS then GIVEN to big Pharma to make huge profits off of. The Pharmacuetical industry is one of the most profitable in the country and you are just a brainwashed FOOL, repeating the BS Rush TOLD you to think

Sorry, but the Canadian is not telling you the whole truth about government health care.

Government health care ALWAYS means rationed health care. You simply can’t get away from this one fact.

And our current private insurance health care system is also rationed–more than 45 million Americans have no health care coverage at all.

So much for the rationing argument.

- Tom

Health care itself would not be run by the government…the government would over see the corrupt for profit so called health care insurance…. example is medicare.

Over 50% of Our taxes goes towards to the pentagon…. we spend more on defense than all the countries put together. Think we could take some of that money, tax payer money, and begin helping the tax payers?

Government health care ALWAYS means rationed health care. You simply can’t get away from this one fact. For example, none of you here seem to be bothered by the very real issues of timely access to life-saving diagnostics under government health care systems such as Canada’s.

I’m sure most of you here vilify our drug companies as well. I have news for you – you are IGNORANT of what the best health care REALLY costs.

Do any of you have a clue as to why drugs cost so much here as opposed to Canada? Please try to answer just this ONE question!

United States: $5,267 on health care/ $2,364 is government spending.
Canada: $2,931 on health care / $2,048 is government spending.
France: $2,736 on health care / $2,080 is government spending.

The fact is, we Just can’t AFFORD to keep Wasting money on a BROKEN Healthcare system.

Can America Afford Healthcare for All?
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/11/29/12721/098/669/667518

Has anyone out there realized the ball has been dropped on curing life threatening diseases, such as AIDS, but erectile dysfunction and such has gotten the attention because of the profit.

We must rid ourselves of this scam for profit health care system.
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I agree 100% I think some things are too important and the moral imperative of them should NOT be given over to for profit enterprises that put that profit motive OVER the moral imperative of peoples lives and well being

We must rid ourselves of this scam for profit health care system.

We will do the same thing we did on Nov. 4th. Ignore them. Shut them out, and get on with the business of repairing the damage they’ve done to our nation.

Thank You! Thank You! Thank You! – the trolls have now completely melted.
Ok, maybe that’s over exuberance on my part. I do thank you for speaking up to their nay saying about a health care system that covers all citizens and does not bankrupt the country.

Your system is set up to obtain wealth (from you)while you are fine, and not pay out when your sick. The sicker the better. They push for you to die because you will not be a statistic while your alive.

Under our system, the average person making $45000 contributes approx. $1,250 per year through his taxes. Thats it!!! no co-pays, no other payments, no papers to fill , no nothing. I have a card, I go to any doctor I want, I don’t have to ask permission from the government (the biggest lie of our system that certain Americans tell. If you are unemployed, the government adjusts what you pay when you file your tax return. If you can’t afford to pay…you don’t.

We believe in this nation, if you watch my back, i’ll watch yours. This simple statement has allowed Canadians to build wealth amoung all it’s people.

IF it costs for a family of four $12,500 per year for insurance under your system and it costs a Canadian Family $2500….I will tell you what we do with our savings of $10,000….Pay the mortgage, take vacations, save for educations (our gov subsidizes 75%of tution costs) buy clothes, cars, have money for pot…hehe…amoung other things.

THIS IS WHY CANADIANS HAVE A SAVINGS …HAVE NO POVERTY DUE TO MEDICAL REASONS, ARE HEALTHIER, LIVE LONGER, BETTER SEX, LESS VIOLENCE,BETTER GRADES IN SCHOOLS (LOOK IT UP AND YOU WILL SEE)TRAVEL MORE THEN AMERICANS.

START TALKING ABOUT THE MONEY THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WILL HAVE IN THERE POCKETS AND YOU WILL SEE HOW FAST SOCIALIZED MEDICINE COMES TO AMERICA.

PEACE AND LOVE

“The only troubling personnel note was Melody Barnes as Domestic Policy Council director…a former aide to Ted Kennedy in charge of health policy “

I think Rove has reason to worry about this.

Major Healthcare reform will be on the Agenda, early in Obama’s Presidency…and it will be introduced in the Senate by Ted Kennedy. Kennedy’s personal situation and the mood of the country will force Healthcare to the front of the line.

I don’t know what form it will take, but I think it should…

Cover Everyone
Eliminate Pre-existing conditions as a disqualifier
Stress Prevention and Promote a Healthy Lifestyle
Use Technology to eliminate mistakes and cut costs

And (IMHO) eliminate Profit from the Healthcare Equation.

All of Obama’s Appointments have one thing in common….they are good at getting things DONE. And Obama Needs Results to keep his momentum going. Healthcare reform fits the bill, and the Time is right.