Comments on: Ford CEO will drive to Washington for auto bailout hearings. http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/01/auto-driving/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 11:09:15 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: denizerdogan http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/01/auto-driving/comment-page-1/#comment-5552493 denizerdogan Wed, 18 Mar 2009 09:13:55 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/01/auto-driving/#comment-5552493 You dont get tell me what arguments to make <a href="http://aracplakasorgulama.com" title="araç" rel="nofollow">araç sorgulama</a> You dont get tell me what arguments to make araç sorgulama

]]> By: denizerdogan http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/01/auto-driving/comment-page-1/#comment-5523843 denizerdogan Sun, 01 Mar 2009 00:53:12 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/01/auto-driving/#comment-5523843 Just like the cold war when everyone who didn’t agree with the U.S. was either a communist or a communist sympathizer. <a href="http://www.toki.info.tr" title="toki" rel="nofollow">toki</a> This poor crazy guy spent half a decade being tortured because a bunch of stupid politicians <a href="http://www.aracplakasorgulama.net" title="araç sorgulama" rel="nofollow">araç sorgulama</a> were sure the NVA was in bed with the Russians (minimal help) and/or the Chinese (ancient enemy of the vietnamese). <a href="http://www.kamusal.org" title="ssk sorgulama" rel="nofollow">ssk sorgulama</a> You would think he would have learned from others’ mistakes. Guess not. Republicans need an enemy. <a href="http://www.frmbu.com" title="key ödemeleri" rel="nofollow">key ödemeleri</a> This century it apparently will be all Muslims, <a href="http://www.internettenkredi.com" title="kredi" rel="nofollow">kredi</a> all of whom must be alQaeda operatives. Just like the cold war when everyone who didn’t agree with the U.S. was either a communist or a communist sympathizer. toki This poor crazy guy spent half a decade being tortured because a bunch

of stupid politicians araç sorgulama were sure the NVA

was in bed with the Russians (minimal help) and/or the Chinese (ancient enemy of the vietnamese). ssk sorgulama You would think he would have learned from others’

mistakes. Guess not. Republicans need an enemy. key ödemeleri This

century it apparently will be all Muslims, kredi all of whom must

be alQaeda operatives.

]]> By: EugeneDebs http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/01/auto-driving/comment-page-1/#comment-5364734 EugeneDebs Tue, 02 Dec 2008 22:13:48 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/01/auto-driving/#comment-5364734 Ferraridude. You dont get tell me what arguments to make. I guess I will decide that. I dont really care what you DONT know about I assume that is a bottomless well. Ford KNEW the pinto would kill people and produced it anyway. That was PROVEN in court as they brought in the beancounters who were told to assess the dollar liability of those deaths instead of fixing the problem they killed Americans they will never get a dime of my money its just that simple Ferraridude. You dont get tell me what arguments to make. I guess I will decide that. I dont really care what you DONT know about I assume that is a bottomless well. Ford KNEW the pinto would kill people and produced it anyway. That was PROVEN in court as they brought in the beancounters who were told to assess the dollar liability of those deaths instead of fixing the problem they killed Americans they will never get a dime of my money its just that simple

]]> By: a0d7fzz http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/01/auto-driving/comment-page-1/#comment-5363726 a0d7fzz Tue, 02 Dec 2008 16:38:54 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/01/auto-driving/#comment-5363726 Sorry, rich boys, too little too late. How anyone can see this as anything other than an attempt to placate the gov't is a mystery to me. Sorry, rich boys, too little too late.

How anyone can see this as anything other than an attempt to placate the gov’t is a mystery to me.

]]> By: ferrarimanf355 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/01/auto-driving/comment-page-1/#comment-5363722 ferrarimanf355 Tue, 02 Dec 2008 16:37:48 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/01/auto-driving/#comment-5363722 #32, The Pinto was BMT- before my time (I was born in 1985), so I'm just going to assume that asploding cars were the results of a management team from long ago. You shoulda brought up the asploding Crown Victoria Police Interceptors. It would have made your argument stronger, although that was also probably the result of a management team from long ago... #32,

The Pinto was BMT- before my time (I was born in 1985), so I’m just going to assume that asploding cars were the results of a management team from long ago.

You shoulda brought up the asploding Crown Victoria Police Interceptors. It would have made your argument stronger, although that was also probably the result of a management team from long ago…

]]> By: BloggerRadio.com http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/01/auto-driving/comment-page-1/#comment-5363480 BloggerRadio.com Tue, 02 Dec 2008 13:25:44 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/01/auto-driving/#comment-5363480 It doesn't matter if it's 'assembled' in America (typically of foreign made parts), Europe, or Asia, if it's an automobile, it's 100+ year old technology. They are all designed to begin falling apart at 90,000 miles. They all remain fundamentally a pile of nuts and bolts that ultimately rust out. The companies who produce them are all in bed with both the Oil and Banking industry, both of whom are run by corporate executives who would "DO" their Mommas for a buck. You think they care about the flag waving, Corvette driving, buy American-only patriot commenter above? Gimmie a break, and grow-up. Now, beam me up, Scottie. It doesn’t matter if it’s ‘assembled’ in America (typically of foreign made parts), Europe, or Asia, if it’s an automobile, it’s 100+ year old technology. They are all designed to begin falling apart at 90,000 miles. They all remain fundamentally a pile of nuts and bolts that ultimately rust out. The companies who produce them are all in bed with both the Oil and Banking industry, both of whom are run by corporate executives who would “DO” their Mommas for a buck. You think they care about the flag waving, Corvette driving, buy American-only patriot commenter above? Gimmie a break, and grow-up.

Now, beam me up, Scottie.

]]> By: the Lone Voice of Reason http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/01/auto-driving/comment-page-1/#comment-5363474 the Lone Voice of Reason Tue, 02 Dec 2008 12:47:39 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/01/auto-driving/#comment-5363474 by the way, dbadass, #6 was damn funny to read this morning, but I have to remember not to be taking a sip of java when I read your posts. by the way, dbadass, #6 was damn funny to read this morning, but I have to remember not to be taking a sip of java when I read your posts.

]]> By: the Lone Voice of Reason http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/01/auto-driving/comment-page-1/#comment-5363472 the Lone Voice of Reason Tue, 02 Dec 2008 12:44:44 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/01/auto-driving/#comment-5363472 ferrariman and Timmeh together and I missed it again-dang late night second job! Empty suits know how to talk to other empty suits, Timmy? Maybe they could discuss those apples and oranges you are so fond of? They are all clueless as to what the poor people do in their lives because it has been so long since they have ever been there themselves, if they even were before. They (the politicians) need to talk to the <em>engineers</em> about all the ideas that they had scuttled right off the drawing boards. You know, all those plans for more energy efficiency? The ones the Big Three and Big Oil said were unnecessary because everybody really wants to drive a tank or a member replacement (that's for you ferrariman) and dammit, $4 a gallon is nothing to those folks and don't those Saudis and OPEC just love us for sucking up to their corporate teats? ferrariman and Timmeh together and I missed it again-dang late night second job!

Empty suits know how to talk to other empty suits, Timmy? Maybe they could discuss those apples and oranges you are so fond of? They are all clueless as to what the poor people do in their lives because it has been so long since they have ever been there themselves, if they even were before. They (the politicians) need to talk to the engineers about all the ideas that they had scuttled right off the drawing boards. You know, all those plans for more energy efficiency? The ones the Big Three and Big Oil said were unnecessary because everybody really wants to drive a tank or a member replacement (that’s for you ferrariman) and dammit, $4 a gallon is nothing to those folks and don’t those Saudis and OPEC just love us for sucking up to their corporate teats?

]]> By: AshtabulaDem http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/01/auto-driving/comment-page-1/#comment-5363414 AshtabulaDem Tue, 02 Dec 2008 09:30:31 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/01/auto-driving/#comment-5363414 The following letter, written by Ray Werner of Point Breeze, appeared in the Sunday, November 30 Pittsburgh Post-Gazette and is right on the money! "<em>No imagination When the chairmen of our three biggest automakers flew into the nation's capital on their fuel-sucking corporate jets, it wasn't just dumb, it was totally without imagination. I worked in the advertising and marketing business for years and here's what my clients would have done. They would have driven a hybrid car from Detroit to D.C., stopping only once to fill up, followed by a train of media folks, and arrived at the steps of our Capitol with a kind of engaging humility. Their opening remarks to our congressmen would have been something like, "I arrived here this morning from Detroit in a car that cost me under 50 bucks for fuel but looks like a million. Help me make them, and we'll turn this industry upside down. I'm not asking you to save our auto industry. I'm asking you to make it the best in the world." Then the chairmen would have driven back to Detroit in the same car, with billions of dollars in the trunk, and planned stops along the way for marketing events -- and thousands of orders for the first new gas savers off the line. Where's their imagination?</em> Maybe Ford should hire Mr. Werner. The following letter, written by Ray Werner of Point Breeze, appeared in the Sunday, November 30 Pittsburgh Post-Gazette and is right on the money!

“No imagination

When the chairmen of our three biggest automakers flew into the nation’s capital on their fuel-sucking corporate jets, it wasn’t just dumb, it was totally without imagination.

I worked in the advertising and marketing business for years and here’s what my clients would have done. They would have driven a hybrid car from Detroit to D.C., stopping only once to fill up, followed by a train of media folks, and arrived at the steps of our Capitol with a kind of engaging humility.

Their opening remarks to our congressmen would have been something like, “I arrived here this morning from Detroit in a car that cost me under 50 bucks for fuel but looks like a million. Help me make them, and we’ll turn this industry upside down. I’m not asking you to save our auto industry. I’m asking you to make it the best in the world.”

Then the chairmen would have driven back to Detroit in the same car, with billions of dollars in the trunk, and planned stops along the way for marketing events — and thousands of orders for the first new gas savers off the line.

Where’s their imagination?

Maybe Ford should hire Mr. Werner.

]]> By: EugeneDebs http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/01/auto-driving/comment-page-1/#comment-5363396 EugeneDebs Tue, 02 Dec 2008 07:53:50 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/01/auto-driving/#comment-5363396 ferrarimanf355 Says: Ford? Makers of the incredible exploding Pinto? Yeah, they will never get a dime of my money ferrarimanf355 Says:

Ford? Makers of the incredible exploding Pinto? Yeah, they will never get a dime of my money

]]> By: southrnbelle http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/01/auto-driving/comment-page-1/#comment-5363374 southrnbelle Tue, 02 Dec 2008 06:40:28 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/01/auto-driving/#comment-5363374 <strong>"Drive," or "be driven" in one of their corporate limos with one of their full-time corporate chauffeurs??? I can hardly imagine any of these clowns getting behind the wheel and actually driving for 9 hours!!!</strong> “Drive,” or “be driven” in one of their corporate limos with one of their full-time corporate chauffeurs???

I can hardly imagine any of these clowns getting behind the wheel and actually driving for 9 hours!!!

]]> By: ferrarimanf355 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/01/auto-driving/comment-page-1/#comment-5363356 ferrarimanf355 Tue, 02 Dec 2008 06:04:04 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/01/auto-driving/#comment-5363356 #25, You should take a gander at Ford's quality ratings. That's another argument you could use... #25,

You should take a gander at Ford’s quality ratings. That’s another argument you could use…

]]> By: motorfingaz http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/01/auto-driving/comment-page-1/#comment-5363350 motorfingaz Tue, 02 Dec 2008 05:45:30 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/01/auto-driving/#comment-5363350 If they had an ounce of creative brain in thier inflated heads they would've lead a <strong>caravan</strong> of new model <strong>GM automobiles</strong> with <strong>GM factory workers</strong> to Washington DC!! If they had an ounce of creative brain in thier inflated heads they would’ve lead a caravan of new model GM automobiles with GM factory workers to Washington DC!!

]]> By: dbadass http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/01/auto-driving/comment-page-1/#comment-5363326 dbadass Tue, 02 Dec 2008 04:33:26 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/01/auto-driving/#comment-5363326 How can you tell if something is made in the US or do you just want it to be a US owned company? What about US corporations which have large amounts of foreign investors? This whole buy American thing seems a little odd in a modern multinational corporate world. What about an American car assembled in Mexico versus a Japanese car manufactured in the US? How can you tell if something is made in the US or do you just want it to be a US owned company? What about US corporations which have large amounts of foreign investors? This whole buy American thing seems a little odd in a modern multinational corporate world. What about an American car assembled in Mexico versus a Japanese car manufactured in the US?

]]> By: Buckie Boy http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/01/auto-driving/comment-page-1/#comment-5363320 Buckie Boy Tue, 02 Dec 2008 04:25:34 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/01/auto-driving/#comment-5363320 Tell dbadass....When I can....I always look for American labels first. Tell dbadass….When I can….I always look for American labels first.

]]> By: dbadass http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/01/auto-driving/comment-page-1/#comment-5363318 dbadass Tue, 02 Dec 2008 04:24:23 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/01/auto-driving/#comment-5363318 I suppose being a true patriot you only buy American made electronic devices, clothing, and foodstuffs as well I suppose being a true patriot you only buy American made electronic devices, clothing, and foodstuffs as well

]]> By: Buckie Boy http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/01/auto-driving/comment-page-1/#comment-5363314 Buckie Boy Tue, 02 Dec 2008 04:21:51 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/01/auto-driving/#comment-5363314 Being a true American Patriot, I only drive American Cars, a Chevy Corvette, and a Jeep Liberty, and will never ever buy a non-american companies car, ever. Any idiot that thinks American cars are less than others needs to test drive American cars. Being a true American Patriot, I only drive American Cars, a Chevy Corvette, and a Jeep Liberty, and will never ever buy a non-american companies car, ever.
Any idiot that thinks American cars are less than others needs to test drive American cars.

]]> By: IBTunion4obama http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/01/auto-driving/comment-page-1/#comment-5363298 IBTunion4obama Tue, 02 Dec 2008 04:13:04 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/01/auto-driving/#comment-5363298 It's okay to give the financial industry trillions of dollars, but not the automakers....hmmmm.... It’s okay to give the financial industry trillions of dollars, but not the automakers….hmmmm….

]]> By: dbadass http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/01/auto-driving/comment-page-1/#comment-5363292 dbadass Tue, 02 Dec 2008 04:00:57 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/01/auto-driving/#comment-5363292 I thought the Gremlin was an American icon? So Frances how are the boys down at the car club? I thought the Gremlin was an American icon? So Frances how are the boys down at the car club?

]]> By: ferrarimanf355 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/01/auto-driving/comment-page-1/#comment-5363290 ferrarimanf355 Tue, 02 Dec 2008 03:58:18 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/01/auto-driving/#comment-5363290 #1, If Mulally has the balls to show up in a Mustang, I'll be cheering him on. Why not show up with an American icon? I think the Escape Hybrid uses tech from Toyota, anyways, someone correct me if I'm wrong. #1,

If Mulally has the balls to show up in a Mustang, I’ll be cheering him on. Why not show up with an American icon?

I think the Escape Hybrid uses tech from Toyota, anyways, someone correct me if I’m wrong.

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