O’Reilly Whitewashes Torture At Gitmo: ‘There’s Certainly No Proof That Ever Happened’
O’Reilly Whitewashes Torture At Gitmo: ‘There’s Certainly No Proof That Ever Happened’
Today on the Radio Factor, a listener called in to tell Bill O’Reilly that she had “zero confidence” in Obama’s ability to close the military prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. In the course of her call, the listener expressed mock concern for the detainees that were mistreated there. O’Reilly, apparently missing the caller’s sarcastic tone, interrupted her to falsely claim that “no proof” exists to back-up accusations of mistreatment and that his two tours of the prison facility confirm that:
OREILLY: [T]here are accusations of mistreatment at Guantanamo, but there’s certainly no proof that ever happened. I think they were rough in the beginning after 9/11, that some stuff happened that shouldn’t have, but I went there twice and we have good contacts there. And, I think that they basically got that under control pretty quickly.
O’Reilly was so confident is his declaration that mistreatment never occurred at Gitmo that he selected the call as the “Radio Factor Call of the Day.” Listen here:
Despite O’Reilly’s claims, “proof” of mistreatment and torture of detainees at Guantanamo Bay does exist. In 2004, the Red Cross documented “cruel, inhumane and degrading” treatment of detainees while inspecting the facility. Perhaps more disturbing, the Guardian reported last year:
Captives at Guantánamo Bay were chained hand and foot in a fetal position to the floor for 18 hours or more, urinating and defecating on themselves, an FBI report has revealed. … One witness said he saw a barefoot detainee shaking with cold because the air conditioning had bought the temperature close to freezing.
O’Reilly is naive to believe that his short PR tours of Gitmo provided him with an objective view of the prison. CNN reported that when they visited Gitmo in 2005 that the restrictions placed on journalists touring the facility “made it nearly impossible…to get a full picture of the prison.”
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Bill who…?
December 1st, 2008 at 6:32 pmI wonder if Billo was beaten as a child? Maybe ripped the wings off flies and watched them buzz around in circles or something? Maybe he used to make prank calls to little old ladies in tennis shoes? Whatever it was it certainly left this meathead with a huge ego in desperate need of stroking.
Memo to Bill: Ah, Bill, we don’t care what you think. OK? Call Fox Security and have them take you to Bellevue where you can get some much needed help.
December 1st, 2008 at 6:38 pmSome people deny the holocaust simply by saying: “I see no proof.”
Freekin’ Nazis.
December 1st, 2008 at 6:48 pmCool, then Billo should spend a couple weeks on a Carribean vacation at Gitmo. WTF does he think it is, Club Med?
December 1st, 2008 at 6:57 pmO’Reilly is naive to believe that his short PR tours of Gitmo provided him with an objective view of the prison.
Not naive, stupid. To the bone stupid.
December 1st, 2008 at 6:58 pmAnd this is just more proof that O’Reilly has no brain!
December 1st, 2008 at 6:59 pmOh but there is plenty of proof for the imagined war on christmas, I suppose…
December 1st, 2008 at 7:04 pmO’Reilly is the biggest lying buffoon ever on TV. Even his bosses hate him. He is a screamer, a pervert, an anti-American, and above all, a liar. How Fox can promote this idiot is beyond anyone who can think. The most disturbing thing of all about this total loser is that– when he tells his sheep there is no torture, they all lie down & debase themselves at his unclean feet.
December 1st, 2008 at 7:04 pmBillO finds himself more and more irrelevant as each day passes. So look for more and more outrageous statements in tandem with that Much as bush who Billo carried water for low these many years. What it was only 8 seems like so many more
December 1st, 2008 at 7:35 pmThis is a favorite tactic of the Right Wing. They’ve done everything they could to make sure none of this stuff ever reaches a court of law. Then they stand there and smugly say that there’s no evidence that anyone at GTMO was tortured, simply because no evidence ever made it to a judge. If it did, people in the Bush Administration would be going to jail.
December 1st, 2008 at 7:39 pmO’Really really lives in his own fantasy world, doesn’t he? When are the men with the funny little white coat with all the buckles coming to get him?
December 1st, 2008 at 7:47 pmAfter he tours the showroom, he gets a great deal on the car: sticker price.
No proof is probably what led to the torture.
December 1st, 2008 at 7:55 pmI believe the technical term for people like Bill0 is “batshit crazy”.
December 1st, 2008 at 7:55 pmQue keltoi to tell us all how necessary torture is and why these people are not humans and we can do whatever we want to them……
Que timmy to tell us again that we should have shot them when we captured them……he thought that would have looked better than torturing them…..
Orilly could have been one of the guys lighting the ovens I tell ya…..
never underestimate man’s capability for inhumanity against other men. These guys prove that saying is true.
December 1st, 2008 at 7:57 pmCurlew Says:
Maybe ripped the wings off flies and watched them buzz around in circles or something?
Curlew, you reminded me of what I used to do with flies. Not that I’m anything like Bill O!!! I used to take a strand of my sisters hair (longer the better), then I would catch a fly and tie the fly with the hair. Presto, your own pet fly. Yes, cruel but very entertaining for a teenager.
December 1st, 2008 at 8:03 pmCurlew Says:
Maybe ripped the wings off flies and watched them buzz around in circles or something?
Actually Curlew, if you remove the wings, you remove the buzz.
December 1st, 2008 at 8:06 pmDoes Billo know that George Bush signed an executive order on torture:
http://www.onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/article_3187.shtml
December 1st, 2008 at 8:06 pmThere is absolutely no proof the Bill O’Reilly has one functioning cerebral cell nor one microgram of virtue.
December 1st, 2008 at 8:12 pmWell, after the events in Bombay (nee Mumbai), should we be nice to the terrorists?
I say not only no, but HELL NO!
December 1st, 2008 at 8:16 pmHi Tim:
December 1st, 2008 at 8:18 pmHow should we tell who is a terrorist and who is a freedom fighter?
What you folks fail to see quite predictably is that these animals, the terrorists only understand ONE thing – brute force.
It is the only thing they respect, the only thing they fear. They must be exterminated wherever they are, period.
December 1st, 2008 at 8:18 pmI say CLOSE club Gitmo, but only after the military tries, convist and hangs the terrorists that are guilty. Those that aren’t should be set free, which indeed they have.
December 1st, 2008 at 8:19 pmwho the hell are “the terrorists”? Are they the same as “the freedom haters”?
December 1st, 2008 at 8:19 pm“Those that aren’t should be set free, which indeed they have.”
What the hell are you talking about? How could you possible know this?
December 1st, 2008 at 8:22 pmWhat’s truly fascinating about the left in this country is that they make a HUGE issue out of every mis-step we make, but have huge blinders on when it comes to looking for real, live manifestations of EVIL!
That’s right, you folks who can’t see Islam for what it TRULY is are really part of the problem, not the solution.
December 1st, 2008 at 8:23 pmYeah, Mohammed Ali and Cat Steven’s are surely some scary mofos. Damn you have a stupid wide brush
December 1st, 2008 at 8:27 pmWe helped create the terrorists who struck in Mumbai, stupid troll. Ronnie Raygun’s opium rich “freedom fighters” likely wouldn’t have done what they did without our interference dating back 30 years. Centuries if you include the British. Plus, they are a different group of terrorists than those who perpetrated the 9/11 attack. And our continuing support for Pakistani and Afghan strongmen, in opposition to India, didn’t help matters either. One should really learn the history behind conflicts before spouting off. Alas, trolls don’t do history.
December 1st, 2008 at 8:29 pmDamn it pete! Why do you always have to frighten them off with actual knowledge…
December 1st, 2008 at 8:37 pmBTW. The legitimate Muslim authorities in India are refusing to bury the slain terrorists in their cemeteries because, “they defiled the peaceful teachings of Islam”.
Is the trollish desire to prove their ignorance learned or inherited.
December 1st, 2008 at 8:38 pmSorry db. I prefer a one-shot kill to spraying bullets in the general direction of that which offends me.
OT. I extracted a promise of fresh bluegills from a friend. The only thing I like better than panfish through the ice is not having to freeze my (bleep) off catching them.
December 1st, 2008 at 8:41 pmSweet. As a saltwater guy, I too rely on a buddy willing to sit around in his bobhouse all day. Thing is he doesn’t even drink. I am mystified by that part. Smelt camps will be firing up soon in these parts.
December 1st, 2008 at 8:43 pmPete,
You’re just a f’ing moron, so I can’t help you.
December 1st, 2008 at 8:47 pmI guess I forgot to mention that the left is also infatuated with the notion that NO TERRORISTS would exist if it wasn’t for the evil USA!
You morons AMAZE me!
December 1st, 2008 at 8:49 pmWow Tim. Is that your best response to informed rebuttal of your opinions stated as facts?
December 1st, 2008 at 8:50 pmI can stand open water fishing without booze but, there’s no way I can handle ice fishing while sober. Though I can manage a little enthusiasm if I have a worthy opponent for chess. I simply “forget” to bait my hook so I can give the game my full attention.
I never understood the love affair with smelt. I get the camping part but I’ve always found the dang things all but inedible. Even my truly talented Mother couldn’t find a way to prepare them so they don’t taste, to me, like mud.
December 1st, 2008 at 8:52 pmHearing, or seeing, bill o’reilly, is torture.
December 1st, 2008 at 8:55 pmI’m not the one stupid enough to answer to “stupid troll” as though it were my name, stupid troll. I also have a basic grounding in the historical drives behind guerrilla fighters and asymmetric combat. It doesn’t take much study to realize that anyone who feels oppressed will fight their oppressors in any way they can. This is even more true when the oppressors are foreigners. And the real pisser is that it’s not up to the oppressors to decide when they are oppressive. That’s left to the oppressed.
So? One damn well better make an attempt to understand oppressed people if one wishes to play on the world stage. Alas, our government has utterly failed to comprehend the problem.
December 1st, 2008 at 9:02 pmdbadass,
unfortunately, it’s all I can muster this evening… too much Turkey this past holiday weekend.
December 1st, 2008 at 9:10 pmTim Vaculik Says:
Well, after the events in Bombay (nee Mumbai), should we be nice to the terrorists?
I say not only no, but HELL NO!
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You are such an ignorant punk and you dont have an ounce of decency? Did anyone at Gitmo have anything to do with Mumbai? Have we proven ANYONE much less everyone at GITMO is a terrorist? Do you even remember what it was like before your soul dried up and blew away?
December 1st, 2008 at 9:10 pmTim Vaculik Says:
What you folks fail to see quite predictably is that these animals, the terrorists only understand ONE thing – brute force.
It is the only thing they respect, the only thing they fear. They must be exterminated wherever they are, period.
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What YOU fail to realize, you subhuman moron besides pretty much EVERYTHING, is that they dont become terrorists because YOU call them terrorists. Even the Pentagon isnt claiming they are all terrorists. We PAID A BOUNTY for them and a whole slew of them we have NO evidence they did anything but the CLAIMS of warlords who could easily have been settling old debts, or just made the claim for the bounty. Obviously YOU are so stupid the only thing YOU respect is brute force so I think the government ought to arrest and TORTURE YOU and your children so you can understand this whole rule of law thing that you jetison so easily because of your cowardice and stupidity
December 1st, 2008 at 9:15 pmO.K., boys and girls: Open your history books to the time of Thomas Jefferson.
Specifically, I want you to study how he finally took care of the Muslim pirates after his predecessors and Congress tried appeasement and negotiation. Please be sure to read the story of Jefferson’s emissary and his meeting with the head Muslim poobah of that period. Pay close attention to what the Muslim said when asked why they preyed on our merchant ships.
Please report back to me when you have completed your assigments!
December 1st, 2008 at 9:15 pmtimmy reminds me of lieutenant flagg from mash….or colonel klink…..either way he aint real…
what size jackboots do ya wear timmy? Rhetorical…don’t respond please.
Ralph pegged him as a living cartoon charactor….
December 1st, 2008 at 9:16 pmAlso, there will be no horseplay or loud talking during class!
December 1st, 2008 at 9:16 pmAw FRED,
Ya GOT me! They are size 14’s!!!!
December 1st, 2008 at 9:17 pmTim Vaculik Says:
I guess I forgot to mention that the left is also infatuated with the notion that NO TERRORISTS would exist if it wasn’t for the evil USA!
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Are you kidding? If you want to see the stupidest most braindead moron on the Planet look in the mirror because its clearly you. A liar and a fool projecting his inadequecies on the world because you are a coward and a moron
December 1st, 2008 at 9:17 pmWhat the hell were you doing in Turkey this past weekend. Isn’t that place just screaming with Muslims?
December 1st, 2008 at 9:18 pmHmmmmm, I detect a troublemaker in the back of the classroom.
I guess I’ll have to get out my brass ruler, just like my 5th grade teacher used to use!
December 1st, 2008 at 9:18 pmtimmy wants to run things real bad…..he probably does….you know the tv, his mom’s computer, the vacuum cleaner….other stuff in his hidout.
December 1st, 2008 at 9:19 pmTim Vaculik Says:
Timmeh you are the stupidest most ignorant and brainwashed moron on the face of the Earth so please spare us your projection about people like Pete who has more on the ball than you EVER will on the best day you ever live you cowardly punk
December 1st, 2008 at 9:19 pmdbadass,
You’re a very funny guy… Actually, Turkey is a secular country that knows the danger of allowing the Muslims too much influence on their government.
December 1st, 2008 at 9:20 pmFred,
I just FIX the vacuum cleaner, not use it!
December 1st, 2008 at 9:20 pmFun, fun, fun on the Autobahn.
Quick! Name that band!
December 1st, 2008 at 9:22 pmgod, this one is dense….I said it was rhetorical and for him not to answer….he responds that he’s a #14 jackass…..sweet.
December 1st, 2008 at 9:22 pmTim Vaculik Says:
Timmeh how do you manage to combine your astonishing ignorance with such condescension? You are WAY too stupid to teach us anything. You are WAY to stupid to understand anything. Ice is a mystery to you. Stuff your history lesson It has NOTHING to do with THESE particular people at Gitmo nor the rule of law. You are a simpering baboon but not nearly as bright
December 1st, 2008 at 9:22 pmSorry, I just got carried away, there…
December 1st, 2008 at 9:22 pmFred,
I’m just giving you a laugh, nothing more. Just enjoy it while you have the opportunity…
December 1st, 2008 at 9:23 pmI think timmy is a parody. He’s not even as smart as palen.
December 1st, 2008 at 9:23 pmI believe, EugeneDebs,that the souls and minds of trolls are made of an advanced rubber/teflon compound. Knowledge that doesn’t rebound in horror simply slides off without leaving a mark of any kind.
December 1st, 2008 at 9:23 pmBite me Timmeh you are too stupid to teach a kindergartener to tie his shoes
December 1st, 2008 at 9:24 pmTim Vaculik Says:
dbadass,
unfortunately, it’s all I can muster this evening… too much Turkey this past holiday weekend.
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Not to mention too much stupid in every post you make
December 1st, 2008 at 9:24 pmFred,
Now that’s a low blow. She’s my idol, dontcha know.
December 1st, 2008 at 9:25 pmI suppose those privateers and picaroons were freedom fighters. It gets so confusing…
December 1st, 2008 at 9:25 pmI am timmy, you won’t last long before the guys in white coats have to come back to see you again…..I always enjoy watching a violent natured pshyco auger in…..
December 1st, 2008 at 9:25 pmPete,
Wrong again. We are advanced cyborgs… haven’t you seen the Terminator?
December 1st, 2008 at 9:26 pmTim Vaculik Says:
Hmmmmm, I detect a troublemaker in the back of the classroom.
I guess I’ll have to get out my brass ruler, just like my 5th grade teacher used to use!
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You are an ignorant PUNK Timmeh not a toughguy. Cowards like you are pathetic
December 1st, 2008 at 9:27 pmduh, you’re the king of lowered expectations.
December 1st, 2008 at 9:27 pmClass Dissss-missed! Ya’ll obviously have better things to do that impale me so have at it.
I have dessert waiting in the kitchen…
December 1st, 2008 at 9:28 pmOdd I keep telling those kooks that keep claiming otherwise that the USA is a secular country but they keep claiming it is a christian nation. What gives Tim?
December 1st, 2008 at 9:28 pmKraftwerk you are still a moron
December 1st, 2008 at 9:28 pmEugene, don’t waste any real engery on timmie, he’s not real. Just have a little fun with the fool. He’s plenty willing to be the court jester.
I can see him with his pointy shoes with bells on them talking tough.
December 1st, 2008 at 9:29 pmDont be fooled Fred I have no emotional investment at all just because I make mean posts. Dont be fooled by Timmeh either. His manipulative BS is just sad. The very first post I ever saw from him he was calling us pussies. He regularly insults and demeans liberals and posters here then goes into his AW SHUCKS I am just Gomer from Mayberry routine. I amuse myself by showing him I see through his passive aggressive contempt and let him know what real unvarnished contempt looks like. It is just a hobby for me. No one as dumb as Timmeh will ever really annoy me.
December 1st, 2008 at 9:42 pmUm, Timmeh… it’s not “Fun, fun, fun on the autobahn”.
It’s “Fahren fahren farhen auf der Autobahn”.
German, you know. A different language. Your mistake is completely understandable.
December 1st, 2008 at 9:48 pmyeah, leftover psudo emotions of a time gone by. conservative is now the word you say and spit on the ground. They earned it. America has seen them in all their glory and rejected them soundly.
the world has moved on without them and their credibility has been spent. now they are just bitter and vindictive but more powerless every day….I hope they keep up this routine which has destroyed them.
December 1st, 2008 at 9:48 pmDid Timmeh really try to blame his lameness on what he ate four days ago?
Damn. That takes lame to a whole new level.
December 1st, 2008 at 9:49 pmWithin three minutes, the average kindergartner would have Timmeh’s number and would be making fun of him behind his back.
December 1st, 2008 at 9:51 pmTim Vaculik babbles:
Actually, Turkey is a secular country that knows the danger of allowing the Muslims too much influence on their government.
What the f**k are you talking about? Turkey is 99% Muslim: The president, the prime minister, and most in the parliament are Muslims.
In Turkey, not only do Muslims have influence, they are in charge.
What a complete fool you are.
December 1st, 2008 at 9:59 pmIn 2004, the Red Cross documented “cruel, inhumane and degrading” treatment of detainees while inspecting the facility.
Of course they’re going to say that. They’re nothing but a propaganda front for Godless Commie Mooslim Marxist Tax-And-Spend Socialist extremist moonbats. Hell, they’re so blatant they even had “Red” in their name, and what can you say to argue against that?
Cheers,
December 1st, 2008 at 10:15 pmWhy do you take this crackpot O’Reilly seriously? All you’re doing is validating his relevance. Are his opinions newsworthy? Are they surprising? Why not just quote every dimwit in the media, like Limbaugh, Savage, etc., etc.
December 1st, 2008 at 11:02 pmGregor Samsa Says:
Of course that is true and has BEEN true since about 800 AD Timmeh never knows what he ist talking
December 1st, 2008 at 11:23 pmI believe I know what is going on with our troll TV. He has a term paper due and is too lazy to look up the info so he tries to get us to do his homework. And he probably read about the Treaty of Tripoli in a previous thread but forgot what it was called or what it was about. Not only a troll, but a lazy troll at that. I guess that is what happens after 8 years of Bush screwing up education with No (actually every) Child Left Behind.
December 1st, 2008 at 11:42 pmAnyone want to bet that the new troll Timmy has a very teenie weenie?
December 2nd, 2008 at 12:05 amHmmm. The anti Red Cross screed may have been a joke but, I doubt a former POW would think it funny. Many thousands more American soldiers would have died without the efforts of the Red Cross.
December 2nd, 2008 at 12:46 am.
LOL…
… Bill-Doh O’Liely calling these people liars?
… Don’t kid yourself there Billy.
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December 2nd, 2008 at 1:47 am.
Dear Tim Vaculik(aka TimTroll),
I have a riddle for you:
Q U E S T I O N:
What does one become when one justifies the use of inhumane acts upon other people because those other people have done bad things, too?
Or…
What do you become when you justify your lawlessness on the premise that those you seek to prosecute acted lawlessly, too?
Or…
What kind of society bases it’s violation of law on the simple fact that other’s were violators, first?
… Don’t you then become that which you have loathed?
LOL, you loose T.T.! Please stop supporting torture and terror JUST BECAUSE it’s America doing it. You’re bringing the rest of the Nation down the toilet with your sewer pipe dreams.
Or…
If TORTURE and TERROR are wrong, what kind of person/Country uses TORTURE and TERROR as their tool?
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December 2nd, 2008 at 1:58 amBill ORielly is not quite credible on this issue to make any form of believable statement.
BillO doesn’t think WaterBoarding is torture.
The Indicator question of credibility to ORielly is:
“Bill, do you agree with Bush’s Adm Dept of Justice under Alberto Gonzales. Had a staffer write, ” it is only torture if organ failure occurs”. I believe Bill agrees with that statement. Organ failure is associated with Death. So Bill feels if one dies then it can be construed possibly as torture. Only then for Bill does it open for discussion but not decidedly torture.
Actually, FOX resigning Bill ORielly to a new contract is torture in itself.
December 2nd, 2008 at 2:09 amTimmy, by your reasoning, if all Muslim’s are guilty because of the actions of the radical, violent, fringe, then all white Christians are terrorists because of what Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols did in Oklahoma City.
Aslo, based on Timmy’s logic, he obviously believes that if you take a stick and whack a hornets’ nest, the hornets would surely be so intimidated, terrorized, and overcome with fear and awe that they would never even consider stinging the “whacker”. But the extremist terrorists, like the hornets, have no fear. And, like the hornets, when we use brute force against them and anyone resembling them, whether they’re a threat or not, the terrorists simply escalate in numbers, hatred, and singular focus to strike out at what could only be perceived as a threat to their existence. Timmy has obviously confused the relentless nature of terrorists with the lack of determination and utter cowardice of himself and people of his ilk. Extremists don’t scare off and run away, or just give up.
On the other hand, I bet if the international media aired footage of a loyal, brave, patriotic American shoving a pineapple up your A$$ sideways just for being a hate-filled moron, every smug, spineless, self-absorbed little toad like you would wet their pants running to jump under Mommy’s skirt and trying to crawl back into the womb! And with their tiny pea-brains, at least the heads would fit! At any rate, the pineapple thing sounds like a good idea.
December 2nd, 2008 at 6:15 amIf anyone deserves a life sentence at Gitmo (or SuperMax if they close Gitmo)…
December 2nd, 2008 at 12:38 pmThis man never allows truth or logic to get in the way. This is why he is on Fox. He could never get a real job anywhere else on a legitimate forum. Someone said he started out as a school teacher. I think he probably taught Fascism 101.
And an organized short tour of Gitmo does not make him an expert. He is a propaganda shill. And it looks good on him.
December 2nd, 2008 at 6:11 pm