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	<title>Comments on: Karl Rove orchestrating the &#8216;Bush Legacy project.&#8217;</title>
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		<title>By: Ardri</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/02/legacy-project/comment-page-1/#comment-5398732</link>
		<dc:creator>Ardri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 00:30:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The existence of a &quot;Legacy Project&quot; is its own failure - writ large.  Where&#039;s the the Lincoln legacy project?; the FDR legacy project?; the JFK legacy project?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The existence of a &#8220;Legacy Project&#8221; is its own failure &#8211; writ large.  Where&#8217;s the the Lincoln legacy project?; the FDR legacy project?; the JFK legacy project?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5398732', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Robert_Leigh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert_Leigh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 18:28:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The worst of the Bush legacy is that he played into Bin Laden&#039;s hands with his reaction to 911 giving Bin Laden the result he sought to achieve, US economic bedlam.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The worst of the Bush legacy is that he played into Bin Laden&#8217;s hands with his reaction to 911 giving Bin Laden the result he sought to achieve, US economic bedlam.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5373990', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: AlexLawyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>AlexLawyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 08:34:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Machiavelli reincarnate, alias Karl Rove, has taken on the quixotic task of putting lipstick on the rotting, stinking political corpse of a vile, disgusting, homicidal boar. 

George Bush will go down in history with the likes of Pinochet, Marcos, Pahlevi, Noriega and other right wing thugs. Not quite in Hitler&#039;s, Stalin&#039;s or Mao&#039;s league, but definitely a villain. Of course Rove himself won&#039;t get any honorable mentions, either, which is perhaps part of his motivation to sprinkle perfume on the corpse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Machiavelli reincarnate, alias Karl Rove, has taken on the quixotic task of putting lipstick on the rotting, stinking political corpse of a vile, disgusting, homicidal boar. </p>
<p>George Bush will go down in history with the likes of Pinochet, Marcos, Pahlevi, Noriega and other right wing thugs. Not quite in Hitler&#8217;s, Stalin&#8217;s or Mao&#8217;s league, but definitely a villain. Of course Rove himself won&#8217;t get any honorable mentions, either, which is perhaps part of his motivation to sprinkle perfume on the corpse.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5367280', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: alamacTHC</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/02/legacy-project/comment-page-1/#comment-5366490</link>
		<dc:creator>alamacTHC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 23:02:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Wouldn&#039;t have gone to war but for the intelligence&quot;??  Ever hear about teh Project for a New American Century or the Office for Special Plans?

There is NO DOUBT they would have gone to war regardless.  I know this because 1.) Bush denied it; and 2.) Kristol denied it.  Which means they definitely would have, Q.E.D.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Wouldn&#8217;t have gone to war but for the intelligence&#8221;??  Ever hear about teh Project for a New American Century or the Office for Special Plans?</p>
<p>There is NO DOUBT they would have gone to war regardless.  I know this because 1.) Bush denied it; and 2.) Kristol denied it.  Which means they definitely would have, Q.E.D.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5366490', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: trollsbwild</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/02/legacy-project/comment-page-1/#comment-5365668</link>
		<dc:creator>trollsbwild</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 15:24:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the legacy does not inlcude supression of constitutional and international law, failure, corruption, destruction and looting, this &quot;historical&quot; account should be in the fiction section of any library.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the legacy does not inlcude supression of constitutional and international law, failure, corruption, destruction and looting, this &#8220;historical&#8221; account should be in the fiction section of any library.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5365668', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: A Patriot Acting</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Patriot Acting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 14:53:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh yeah I almost forgot the latest from brother Jeb. His desire to form a shadow-government to regroup the dazed Republican Party. Yee-frickin&#039;-ha more anti-American activity by one of our Country&#039;s most corrupt families! We can only hope that George&#039;s daughters have inherited their father&#039;s laziness and will be too busy shopping and avoiding responsibility to enter politics or big business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh yeah I almost forgot the latest from brother Jeb. His desire to form a shadow-government to regroup the dazed Republican Party. Yee-frickin&#8217;-ha more anti-American activity by one of our Country&#8217;s most corrupt families! We can only hope that George&#8217;s daughters have inherited their father&#8217;s laziness and will be too busy shopping and avoiding responsibility to enter politics or big business.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5365600', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: A Patriot Acting</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Patriot Acting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 14:49:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Bush Legacy, hmmm? Let&#039;s take a quick look at the big picture:
Pappy Prescott Bush-War profiteer during WWII. Was integral in an attempted coup of the American Gov&#039;t. Was involved with the Pioneer Fund, an early eugenics research group that among other goals, hoped to prove scientifically that &quot;negros were inferior&quot;.

Jonathan Bush (brother of George H.W.) was a Division President at Riggs Bank, which collapsed in 2004 after paying $41 million in fines for money-laundering and fraud. Riggs concealed illicit transactions  for Saudi royals  andformer Chilean dictator Augusto Pinochet. Riggs Bank held the account of Saudi Arabia&#039;s US Ambassador Prince Bandar for whom Jonathan was  longtime financial adviser,  and whose wife sent more than $80 thousand in Cashiers&#039; checks to a San Diego address, that wound up funding two of the 9/11 hijackers.

William H.T. “Bucky’’ Bush (another brother of George H. W.) made more than $2.7 million through the sale of a company, Engineered Support Systems Inc., with millions of dollars in Iraq war contracts. He was also cited by  the SEC for withholding bad news from shareholders while he cashed stock options worth $450,000. 

George H.W.Bush-Involved with the CIA during the Bay of Pigs, longtime friend of the Bin Laden family, broker of the Iran/Contra scandal and deeply involved in the cover-uop with Dick Cheney.

George W. Bush-AWOL during his Texas Air National guard stint, two stolen elections, ignored warnings leading up to 9/11, started illegal war in Iraq, coddled his Saudi friends despite evidence of involvement in 9/11, more more profiteering for oil buddies, contractor friends. Ignored warnings and sat on the sidelines through two recessions, ignored Katrina victims, politicized every facet of gov&#039;t, illegal wiretapping, torture etc.

Yeah, the Bush family sure has a REAL pro-America legacy, huh? (snark)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Bush Legacy, hmmm? Let&#8217;s take a quick look at the big picture:<br />
Pappy Prescott Bush-War profiteer during WWII. Was integral in an attempted coup of the American Gov&#8217;t. Was involved with the Pioneer Fund, an early eugenics research group that among other goals, hoped to prove scientifically that &#8220;negros were inferior&#8221;.</p>
<p>Jonathan Bush (brother of George H.W.) was a Division President at Riggs Bank, which collapsed in 2004 after paying $41 million in fines for money-laundering and fraud. Riggs concealed illicit transactions  for Saudi royals  andformer Chilean dictator Augusto Pinochet. Riggs Bank held the account of Saudi Arabia&#8217;s US Ambassador Prince Bandar for whom Jonathan was  longtime financial adviser,  and whose wife sent more than $80 thousand in Cashiers&#8217; checks to a San Diego address, that wound up funding two of the 9/11 hijackers.</p>
<p>William H.T. “Bucky’’ Bush (another brother of George H. W.) made more than $2.7 million through the sale of a company, Engineered Support Systems Inc., with millions of dollars in Iraq war contracts. He was also cited by  the SEC for withholding bad news from shareholders while he cashed stock options worth $450,000. </p>
<p>George H.W.Bush-Involved with the CIA during the Bay of Pigs, longtime friend of the Bin Laden family, broker of the Iran/Contra scandal and deeply involved in the cover-uop with Dick Cheney.</p>
<p>George W. Bush-AWOL during his Texas Air National guard stint, two stolen elections, ignored warnings leading up to 9/11, started illegal war in Iraq, coddled his Saudi friends despite evidence of involvement in 9/11, more more profiteering for oil buddies, contractor friends. Ignored warnings and sat on the sidelines through two recessions, ignored Katrina victims, politicized every facet of gov&#8217;t, illegal wiretapping, torture etc.</p>
<p>Yeah, the Bush family sure has a REAL pro-America legacy, huh? (snark)<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5365588', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Dirty Hippie</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/02/legacy-project/comment-page-1/#comment-5365560</link>
		<dc:creator>Dirty Hippie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 14:32:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Karl,

You can&#039;t polish a turd.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Karl,</p>
<p>You can&#8217;t polish a turd.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5365560', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: IgnoranceIsNotBliss</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/02/legacy-project/comment-page-1/#comment-5365524</link>
		<dc:creator>IgnoranceIsNotBliss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 13:56:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Karl Rove orchestrating the ‘Bush Legacy project.’&lt;/i&gt;

Let the re-writing of History begin!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Karl Rove orchestrating the ‘Bush Legacy project.’</i></p>
<p>Let the re-writing of History begin!!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5365524', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Curlew</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/02/legacy-project/comment-page-1/#comment-5365514</link>
		<dc:creator>Curlew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 13:33:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chimpy&#039;s legacy will be easy to orchestrate: 1) Bring em on, 2) Mission Accomplished, 3) Jail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chimpy&#8217;s legacy will be easy to orchestrate: 1) Bring em on, 2) Mission Accomplished, 3) Jail.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5365514', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Klem Kiddilehopper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Klem Kiddilehopper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 12:55:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Karin(Bigfoot*)Hughes, Ann Coulters twin brother crawls out of some bunker in Texas, to help re-package Bush&#039;s two major accomplishments as human being: 
Colorizing &quot;My Pet Goat,&quot; and the 1st president in modern times to have &quot;ONLY&quot; men lovers in the White House!

* wears a size 14EEE high heels</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Karin(Bigfoot*)Hughes, Ann Coulters twin brother crawls out of some bunker in Texas, to help re-package Bush&#8217;s two major accomplishments as human being:<br />
Colorizing &#8220;My Pet Goat,&#8221; and the 1st president in modern times to have &#8220;ONLY&#8221; men lovers in the White House!</p>
<p>* wears a size 14EEE high heels<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5365510', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: konchster</title>
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		<dc:creator>konchster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 12:33:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>marcg Says:
Like you say, should have read it first, but it doesn&#039;t hurt to keep repeating it loud and clear</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>marcg Says:<br />
Like you say, should have read it first, but it doesn&#8217;t hurt to keep repeating it loud and clear<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5365492', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: konchster</title>
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		<dc:creator>konchster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 12:30:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s the priority? The country is in &quot;swirl to flushing mode&quot; and this worthless chunk of excrement is spending his resources creating an alternate history legacy. It just goes to show Bush doesn&#039;t one iota about America. I loved how the intelligence people took the hit. The papers are there folks the word was out We&#039;re going to flying airplanes in to the twin-towers. There are no weapons of mass destruction . Hussein is not linked to al qaeda. There was no yellow cake purchase. All made up or enhanced for consumption by us dummies</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s the priority? The country is in &#8220;swirl to flushing mode&#8221; and this worthless chunk of excrement is spending his resources creating an alternate history legacy. It just goes to show Bush doesn&#8217;t one iota about America. I loved how the intelligence people took the hit. The papers are there folks the word was out We&#8217;re going to flying airplanes in to the twin-towers. There are no weapons of mass destruction . Hussein is not linked to al qaeda. There was no yellow cake purchase. All made up or enhanced for consumption by us dummies<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5365490', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: marcg</title>
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		<dc:creator>marcg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 12:14:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But, they did know there were no WMD. There were other sources telling them as much. They choose not to believe those sources. There were inspectors on the ground (Hans Blix) who had not found anything and argued they would not find anything. They begged to remain in Iraq and to continue the inspections. They were told to pack up and leave. Hey, this was a war Bush and Cheney wanted badly. Nothing was going to stop them from invading Iraq. This is Bush&#039;s legacy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But, they did know there were no WMD. There were other sources telling them as much. They choose not to believe those sources. There were inspectors on the ground (Hans Blix) who had not found anything and argued they would not find anything. They begged to remain in Iraq and to continue the inspections. They were told to pack up and leave. Hey, this was a war Bush and Cheney wanted badly. Nothing was going to stop them from invading Iraq. This is Bush&#8217;s legacy.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5365488', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Perry logan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Perry logan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 11:41:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Republicans rewriting history?  &lt;em&gt;Quel surprise&lt;/em&gt;...

I&#039;m looking forward to the Heritage Foundation report proving the whole Bush Administration was Bill Clinton&#039;s fault.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WugcAuQMP1s</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Republicans rewriting history?  <em>Quel surprise</em>&#8230;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m looking forward to the Heritage Foundation report proving the whole Bush Administration was Bill Clinton&#8217;s fault.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WugcAuQMP1s" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WugcAuQMP1s</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5365482', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: TomR</title>
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		<dc:creator>TomR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 10:53:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shooting down Rove and Kristol&#039;s pathological lies is like shooting fish in a barrel:

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And what happened at President Bush&#039;s very first National Security Council meeting is one of O&#039;Neill&#039;s most startling revelations. 

“From the very beginning, there was a conviction, that Saddam Hussein was a bad person and that he needed to go,” says O’Neill, who adds that going after Saddam was topic &quot;A&quot; 10 days after the inauguration - eight months before Sept. 11. 

“From the very first instance, it was about Iraq. It was about what we can do to change this regime,” says Suskind. “Day one, these things were laid and sealed.” 

As treasury secretary, O&#039;Neill was a permanent member of the National Security Council. He says in the book he was surprised at the meeting that questions such as &quot;Why Saddam?&quot; and &quot;Why now?&quot; were never asked. 

&quot;It was all about finding a way to do it. That was the tone of it. The president saying ‘Go find me a way to do this,’&quot; says O’Neill. “For me, the notion of pre-emption, that the U.S. has the unilateral right to do whatever we decide to do, is a really huge leap.” 

And that came up at this first meeting, says O’Neill, who adds that the discussion of Iraq continued at the next National Security Council meeting two days later. 

He got briefing materials under this cover sheet. “There are memos. One of them marked, secret, says, ‘Plan for post-Saddam Iraq,’&quot; adds Suskind, who says that they discussed an occupation of Iraq in January and February of 2001. 

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/01/09/60minutes/main592330.shtml


&quot;The truth is that for reasons that have a lot to do with the U.S. government bureaucracy, we settled on the one issue that everyone could agree on which was weapons of mass destruction as the core reason,&quot; Wolfowitz was quoted as saying in a Pentagon transcript of an interview with Vanity Fair.

[snip]

During his interview with Vanity Fair in early May, Wolfowitz cited several payoffs from the war, including removing the need for American forces in Saudi Arabia. 

Those troops were sent to protect the desert kingdom against Saddam, whose forces invaded Kuwait in 1990. But their presence in the country that is home to Islam&#039;s holiest sites enraged many Muslims, including al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden. 

Within two weeks of the fall of Baghdad, the United States announced it was removing most of its 5,000 troops from Saudi Arabia. 

&quot;Their presence there over the last 12 years has been a source of enormous difficulty for a friendly government,&quot; Wolfowitz said. &quot;It&#039;s been a huge recruiting device for al-Qaeda.&quot;

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2003-05-30-wolfowitz-iraq_x.htm
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- Tom</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shooting down Rove and Kristol&#8217;s pathological lies is like shooting fish in a barrel:</p>
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And what happened at President Bush&#8217;s very first National Security Council meeting is one of O&#8217;Neill&#8217;s most startling revelations. </p>
<p>“From the very beginning, there was a conviction, that Saddam Hussein was a bad person and that he needed to go,” says O’Neill, who adds that going after Saddam was topic &#8220;A&#8221; 10 days after the inauguration &#8211; eight months before Sept. 11. </p>
<p>“From the very first instance, it was about Iraq. It was about what we can do to change this regime,” says Suskind. “Day one, these things were laid and sealed.” </p>
<p>As treasury secretary, O&#8217;Neill was a permanent member of the National Security Council. He says in the book he was surprised at the meeting that questions such as &#8220;Why Saddam?&#8221; and &#8220;Why now?&#8221; were never asked. </p>
<p>&#8220;It was all about finding a way to do it. That was the tone of it. The president saying ‘Go find me a way to do this,’&#8221; says O’Neill. “For me, the notion of pre-emption, that the U.S. has the unilateral right to do whatever we decide to do, is a really huge leap.” </p>
<p>And that came up at this first meeting, says O’Neill, who adds that the discussion of Iraq continued at the next National Security Council meeting two days later. </p>
<p>He got briefing materials under this cover sheet. “There are memos. One of them marked, secret, says, ‘Plan for post-Saddam Iraq,’&#8221; adds Suskind, who says that they discussed an occupation of Iraq in January and February of 2001. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/01/09/60minutes/main592330.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/01/09/60minutes/main592330.shtml</a></p>
<p>&#8220;The truth is that for reasons that have a lot to do with the U.S. government bureaucracy, we settled on the one issue that everyone could agree on which was weapons of mass destruction as the core reason,&#8221; Wolfowitz was quoted as saying in a Pentagon transcript of an interview with Vanity Fair.</p>
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<p>During his interview with Vanity Fair in early May, Wolfowitz cited several payoffs from the war, including removing the need for American forces in Saudi Arabia. </p>
<p>Those troops were sent to protect the desert kingdom against Saddam, whose forces invaded Kuwait in 1990. But their presence in the country that is home to Islam&#8217;s holiest sites enraged many Muslims, including al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden. </p>
<p>Within two weeks of the fall of Baghdad, the United States announced it was removing most of its 5,000 troops from Saudi Arabia. </p>
<p>&#8220;Their presence there over the last 12 years has been a source of enormous difficulty for a friendly government,&#8221; Wolfowitz said. &#8220;It&#8217;s been a huge recruiting device for al-Qaeda.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2003-05-30-wolfowitz-iraq_x.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2003-05-30-wolfowitz-iraq_x.htm</a><br />
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<p>- Tom<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5365480', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Another Joe</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/02/legacy-project/comment-page-1/#comment-5365468</link>
		<dc:creator>Another Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 07:43:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If anyone doubts we will see an unprecedented effort to &quot;rehab&quot; chimpy and the family name - click through his link:

&lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Jeb_Bush_considers_Senate_run_1202.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Jeb Bush considers Senate run&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;

&lt;em&gt;Jeb Bush, former governor of Florida and brother to outgoing president George, is considering a Senate run, The Atlantic reported.&lt;/em&gt;

You think the propaganda was bad before?  Just wait - did it disgust you the way the corpse of richard nixon was elevated to an &quot;elder statesman&quot;?

You ain&#039;t seen nothin&#039; yet!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If anyone doubts we will see an unprecedented effort to &#8220;rehab&#8221; chimpy and the family name &#8211; click through his link:</p>
<p><strong><a href="http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Jeb_Bush_considers_Senate_run_1202.html" rel="nofollow">Jeb Bush considers Senate run</a></strong></p>
<p><em>Jeb Bush, former governor of Florida and brother to outgoing president George, is considering a Senate run, The Atlantic reported.</em></p>
<p>You think the propaganda was bad before?  Just wait &#8211; did it disgust you the way the corpse of richard nixon was elevated to an &#8220;elder statesman&#8221;?</p>
<p>You ain&#8217;t seen nothin&#8217; yet!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5365468', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Another Joe</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/02/legacy-project/comment-page-1/#comment-5365466</link>
		<dc:creator>Another Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 07:39:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The totality of the past 8 years - especially the past 2 - have proven rove to be a fool.  He is not a genius.

He was part of the team that took a post 9/11 president with unprecedented popularity (here in US and around world) and plunged him into the most unpopular president in modern times and perhaps US history.

Dur chimpfuhrer is now even more unpopular than richard nixon was right before he resigned and he has been this unpopular for an extended period of time.

Rove is just the public face on a criminal cabal - the mainstream media created the monster that is now widely known as &quot;chimpy&quot;.

Please don&#039;t kid yourself - the same owners of the mainstream media will use those assets to prop up chimpy&#039;s &quot;legacy&quot; and, like everything else, has little or nothing to do with kkkarl rove or any of the pundits that have been wrong about virtually EVERYTHING.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The totality of the past 8 years &#8211; especially the past 2 &#8211; have proven rove to be a fool.  He is not a genius.</p>
<p>He was part of the team that took a post 9/11 president with unprecedented popularity (here in US and around world) and plunged him into the most unpopular president in modern times and perhaps US history.</p>
<p>Dur chimpfuhrer is now even more unpopular than richard nixon was right before he resigned and he has been this unpopular for an extended period of time.</p>
<p>Rove is just the public face on a criminal cabal &#8211; the mainstream media created the monster that is now widely known as &#8220;chimpy&#8221;.</p>
<p>Please don&#8217;t kid yourself &#8211; the same owners of the mainstream media will use those assets to prop up chimpy&#8217;s &#8220;legacy&#8221; and, like everything else, has little or nothing to do with kkkarl rove or any of the pundits that have been wrong about virtually EVERYTHING.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5365466', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Xisithrus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Xisithrus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 06:55:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If history is any gauge Rove will do for the Bush legacy what he did for Dubyas dismal poll numbers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If history is any gauge Rove will do for the Bush legacy what he did for Dubyas dismal poll numbers.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5365458', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: zuch</title>
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		<dc:creator>zuch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 06:53:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Sam Stein reports that, during a debate in New York on Bush&#039;s legacy, Rove said Bush would not have gone to war in Iraq had he known there were no weapons of mass destruction. Bill Kristol agreed.&lt;/i&gt;

They must think we&#039;re stoopid or have severe LTM deficits.

In the absence of the WoMDs, initially the neothugs just said that we&#039;d invaded to spread democracy and that was sufficient reason....  But that was yesterday, this is today.

Cheers,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Sam Stein reports that, during a debate in New York on Bush&#8217;s legacy, Rove said Bush would not have gone to war in Iraq had he known there were no weapons of mass destruction. Bill Kristol agreed.</i></p>
<p>They must think we&#8217;re stoopid or have severe LTM deficits.</p>
<p>In the absence of the WoMDs, initially the neothugs just said that we&#8217;d invaded to spread democracy and that was sufficient reason&#8230;.  But that was yesterday, this is today.</p>
<p>Cheers,<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5365456', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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