Comments on: White House will hang ‘impeach Bush’ ornament on its Christmas tree. http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/02/ornament/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 16:17:18 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Nevar http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/02/ornament/comment-page-4/#comment-5370092 Nevar Fri, 05 Dec 2008 23:15:33 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/02/ornament/#comment-5370092 <em>Wonderful...would you like to come back to my place?</em> Wonderful…would you like to come back to my place?

]]> By: Nevar http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/02/ornament/comment-page-4/#comment-5367804 Nevar Thu, 04 Dec 2008 17:35:19 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/02/ornament/#comment-5367804 <em>Tracy__5 Says: "You are the one quoting irrelevant bible passages."</em> Up to this point I had not quoted a single bible verse, relevant or otherwise, here's one in particular that seems appropriate to how you receive information... <em>"Do not give what is holy to dogs, and do not throw pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces." (Matthew 7:6).</em> Tracy__5 Says:
“You are the one quoting irrelevant bible passages.”

Up to this point I had not quoted a single bible verse, relevant or otherwise, here’s one in particular that seems appropriate to how you receive information…

“Do not give what is holy to dogs, and do not throw pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces.” (Matthew 7:6).

]]> By: dbadass http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/02/ornament/comment-page-4/#comment-5366808 dbadass Thu, 04 Dec 2008 01:30:20 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/02/ornament/#comment-5366808 “I simply want you to show where protestantism says the tree is a simple of the birth.” Why does it have to be documented? --- beacause you said it was so. Are you know acknoeldging that it is not. Damn this is idiotic. Since when can you claim that a religious sect has a stated position and than claim that that stated position need not be documented? “I simply want you to show where protestantism says the tree is a simple of the birth.”

Why does it have to be documented?

— beacause you said it was so. Are you know acknoeldging that it is not. Damn this is idiotic. Since when can you claim that a religious sect has a stated position and than claim that that stated position need not be documented?

]]> By: dbadass http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/02/ornament/comment-page-4/#comment-5366796 dbadass Thu, 04 Dec 2008 01:27:15 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/02/ornament/#comment-5366796 Tracy_5. On what grounds do you get to be the determiner of relevance? Tracy_5.
On what grounds do you get to be the determiner of relevance?

]]> By: dbadass http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/02/ornament/comment-page-3/#comment-5366744 dbadass Thu, 04 Dec 2008 01:06:45 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/02/ornament/#comment-5366744 “Yes the protestants get some credit for the mainstream coopting of the well recognized pagan origins of the tree crap.” Why do you intentionally have to drop down to the level of those jerks who throw the insults at Christianity? --- How is this statement insulting? “Yes the protestants get some credit for the mainstream coopting of the well recognized pagan origins of the tree crap.”

Why do you intentionally have to drop down to the level of those jerks who throw the insults at Christianity?

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How is this statement insulting?

]]> By: dbadass http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/02/ornament/comment-page-3/#comment-5366742 dbadass Thu, 04 Dec 2008 01:05:37 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/02/ornament/#comment-5366742 Tracy__5 Says: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- “Blasphemy! The tree of Life was a religious symbol of life long before Jehovah was a glimmer in man’s imagination! Repent ye viper!” Relevance to the symbolism of the Christmas tree? As far as I know most fruit trees are not coniferous. --- This is so freakin' lame. The cone is a fruit my friend. See the wind carries the pollen which fertilizes these eggs which become become those cool little diploid snacks we call pinenuts. I see botany is not a strength either Tracy__5 Says:
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“Blasphemy! The tree of Life was a religious symbol of life long before Jehovah was a glimmer in man’s imagination!
Repent ye viper!”

Relevance to the symbolism of the Christmas tree? As far as I know most fruit trees are not coniferous.

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This is so freakin’ lame. The cone is a fruit my friend. See the wind carries the pollen which fertilizes these eggs which become become those cool little diploid snacks we call pinenuts. I see botany is not a strength either

]]> By: dbadass http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/02/ornament/comment-page-3/#comment-5366728 dbadass Thu, 04 Dec 2008 01:01:49 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/02/ornament/#comment-5366728 I don't really care what YOU believe. I simply want you to show where protestantism says the tree is a simple of the birth. The fact that many christians sects coopted a prior tradition is well recognized. The discussion here is of symbolism and not tradition. This could all have been avoiuded by calling it is. A tradition and not a symbol. I don’t really care what YOU believe. I simply want you to show where protestantism says the tree is a simple of the birth. The fact that many christians sects coopted a prior tradition is well recognized. The discussion here is of symbolism and not tradition. This could all have been avoiuded by calling it is. A tradition and not a symbol.

]]> By: dbadass http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/02/ornament/comment-page-3/#comment-5366724 dbadass Thu, 04 Dec 2008 00:58:29 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/02/ornament/#comment-5366724 “He is unsure where you got this idea.” Ask him WHY it is called a Christmas tree. ------ Alright genius. Explain to me what the symbolism of the christmas cactus is. Does putting the word christmas in front of anything make it a symbol of christs birth. Atleast must people try to keep their cactus symbols of the barnyard birth alive for a little while. Do all these protestants get a little weirded out when they throw their birth symbol in the dump or on the burn pile around 1/2 each year. What about those protestants that put their birthy tree on the curb for the garbage man? “He is unsure where you got this idea.”

Ask him WHY it is called a Christmas tree.

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Alright genius. Explain to me what the symbolism of the christmas cactus is. Does putting the word christmas in front of anything make it a symbol of christs birth. Atleast must people try to keep their cactus symbols of the barnyard birth alive for a little while. Do all these protestants get a little weirded out when they throw their birth symbol in the dump or on the burn pile around 1/2 each year. What about those protestants that put their birthy tree on the curb for the garbage man?

]]> By: Nevar http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/02/ornament/comment-page-3/#comment-5366716 Nevar Thu, 04 Dec 2008 00:54:37 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/02/ornament/#comment-5366716 "Relevance to the symbolism of the Christmas tree? As far as I know most fruit trees are not coniferous." <em>Up until this little gem I halfway took you seriously. So long pal. The Bible is the words of men. Written by men, for men. There is some good stuff in there from enlightened individuals, and a lot of fabrications as well. Merry Holidays!</em> “Relevance to the symbolism of the Christmas tree? As far as I know most fruit trees are not coniferous.”

Up until this little gem I halfway took you seriously.
So long pal.
The Bible is the words of men. Written by men, for men.
There is some good stuff in there from enlightened individuals, and a lot of fabrications as well.
Merry Holidays!

]]> By: dbadass http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/02/ornament/comment-page-3/#comment-5366704 dbadass Thu, 04 Dec 2008 00:47:58 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/02/ornament/#comment-5366704 Heres the thing Tracy_5. Yes the protestants get some credit for the mainstream coopting of the well recognized pagan origins of the tree crap. The problem is your claim that it symbolizes something. When you show me some evidence that the dogma of that sect has a documented claim that the tree that I might remind you again is killed by those who follow the tradition is a direct symbol of the birth of christ. I will acknowledge your wisdom on the subject. Till then it is coopted friggin tree Heres the thing Tracy_5. Yes the protestants get some credit for the mainstream coopting of the well recognized pagan origins of the tree crap. The problem is your claim that it symbolizes something. When you show me some evidence that the dogma of that sect has a documented claim that the tree that I might remind you again is killed by those who follow the tradition is a direct symbol of the birth of christ. I will acknowledge your wisdom on the subject. Till then it is coopted friggin tree

]]> By: Nevar http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/02/ornament/comment-page-3/#comment-5366698 Nevar Thu, 04 Dec 2008 00:39:56 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/02/ornament/#comment-5366698 How could it be irrelevant? It is the council which created it. Besides, you are missing the point of the council in the first place. It was to unite to feuding 6 or 7 "Christian" factions, at the behest of the Roman Emperor, to codify the dogma into one easy to implement package. They had made up a lot of stuff about Jesus in the 300 or so years since his death, and it needed to get organized. How could it be irrelevant? It is the council which created it.
Besides, you are missing the point of the council in the first place. It was to unite to feuding 6 or 7 “Christian” factions, at the behest of the Roman Emperor, to codify the dogma into one easy to implement package. They had made up a lot of stuff about Jesus in the 300 or so years since his death, and it needed to get organized.

]]> By: dbadass http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/02/ornament/comment-page-3/#comment-5366690 dbadass Thu, 04 Dec 2008 00:39:02 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/02/ornament/#comment-5366690 So riddle me this. If all these protestants are all into this tree that we cut down and kill is our symbol of birth shit, how come the best you can do is a barely and by your own admission inconclusive reference by a catholic? It is this sort of shit that forces me to continue to call bullshit So riddle me this. If all these protestants are all into this tree that we cut down and kill is our symbol of birth shit, how come the best you can do is a barely and by your own admission inconclusive reference by a catholic? It is this sort of shit that forces me to continue to call bullshit

]]> By: dbadass http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/02/ornament/comment-page-3/#comment-5366680 dbadass Thu, 04 Dec 2008 00:36:14 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/02/ornament/#comment-5366680 google the first council for god's sake. Damn! So the bottom line is that you still can't show any evidence that the stupid f ucking tree is claimed by anyone but you to be a symbol of the birth of christ. Whose birth date by the way it took the christians a hell of a long tme to agree on. For such a god damned important event you would have thought they might have been able to figure out when it happened google the first council for god’s sake. Damn!

So the bottom line is that you still can’t show any evidence that the stupid f ucking tree is claimed by anyone but you to be a symbol of the birth of christ. Whose birth date by the way it took the christians a hell of a long tme to agree on. For such a god damned important event you would have thought they might have been able to figure out when it happened

]]> By: Nevar http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/02/ornament/comment-page-3/#comment-5366672 Nevar Thu, 04 Dec 2008 00:34:07 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/02/ornament/#comment-5366672 “You might want to google that one a bit before going any further” <em>What?…specifically.</em> The First Council of Nicea “You might want to google that one a bit before going any further”
What?…specifically.

The First Council of Nicea

]]> By: Nevar http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/02/ornament/comment-page-3/#comment-5366668 Nevar Thu, 04 Dec 2008 00:32:55 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/02/ornament/#comment-5366668 <em>Blasphemy! The tree of Life was a religious symbol of life long before Jehovah was a glimmer in man's imagination! Repent ye viper!</em> Blasphemy! The tree of Life was a religious symbol of life long before Jehovah was a glimmer in man’s imagination!
Repent ye viper!

]]> By: Nevar http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/02/ornament/comment-page-3/#comment-5366658 Nevar Thu, 04 Dec 2008 00:29:35 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/02/ornament/#comment-5366658 Tracy 5 sure has a thing for the tree business.... obsess much? Tracy 5 sure has a thing for the tree business…. obsess much?

]]> By: Nevar http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/02/ornament/comment-page-3/#comment-5366654 Nevar Thu, 04 Dec 2008 00:28:03 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/02/ornament/#comment-5366654 Evening as well. If Tracy 5 spent as much time dissembling and dissecting and reinterpreting Bible verses as he/she does our posts, we would have little to banter about here! Such fun! Evening as well. If Tracy 5 spent as much time dissembling and dissecting and reinterpreting Bible verses as he/she does our posts, we would have little to banter about here! Such fun!

]]> By: dbadass http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/02/ornament/comment-page-3/#comment-5366646 dbadass Thu, 04 Dec 2008 00:23:11 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/02/ornament/#comment-5366646 Evening Nevar, I am thinking Tracy_5 is scrambling for an obtuse way to cover the clear lack of understanding of your reference which Tracy_5 has already displayed. best- Evening Nevar, I am thinking Tracy_5 is scrambling for an obtuse way to cover the clear lack of understanding of your reference which Tracy_5 has already displayed.
best-

]]> By: Nevar http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/02/ornament/comment-page-3/#comment-5366638 Nevar Thu, 04 Dec 2008 00:18:40 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/02/ornament/#comment-5366638 I was just going to suggest Tracy5 at least read Wikipedia regarding the Council of Nicea. It might help in understanding what it means to be a Real Christian. I was just going to suggest Tracy5 at least read Wikipedia regarding the Council of Nicea. It might help in understanding what it means to be a Real Christian.

]]> By: dbadass http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/02/ornament/comment-page-3/#comment-5366622 dbadass Thu, 04 Dec 2008 00:14:35 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/02/ornament/#comment-5366622 Actually forget googling the first council stuff. It is clear you aren't real sure about that one. Can you please just tell me where you got that tree symbolism stuff as my neighbor was sort of amused by the whole thing and I'd like to be willing to offer him an explaination. Thanks Actually forget googling the first council stuff. It is clear you aren’t real sure about that one. Can you please just tell me where you got that tree symbolism stuff as my neighbor was sort of amused by the whole thing and I’d like to be willing to offer him an explaination. Thanks

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