Comments on: Senators want Bush to pardon their convicted felon friend — Ted Stevens. http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/02/stevens-pardon-hatch/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 13:46:49 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: conrruption http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/02/stevens-pardon-hatch/comment-page-1/#comment-5395254 conrruption Wed, 24 Dec 2008 14:45:33 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/02/stevens-pardon-hatch/#comment-5395254 Even though Blogo is a whack job let's hear some Repo comments how Obama might pardon him after four years- if he is found guilty. Even though Blogo is a whack job let’s hear some Repo comments how Obama might pardon him after four years- if he is found guilty.

]]> By: conrruption http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/02/stevens-pardon-hatch/comment-page-1/#comment-5395248 conrruption Wed, 24 Dec 2008 14:43:38 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/02/stevens-pardon-hatch/#comment-5395248 In otherwords, mainly Republcans, guilty until proven rich or a politician. In otherwords, mainly Republcans, guilty until proven rich or a politician.

]]> By: republicanSScareme http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/02/stevens-pardon-hatch/comment-page-1/#comment-5365410 republicanSScareme Wed, 03 Dec 2008 05:40:17 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/02/stevens-pardon-hatch/#comment-5365410 Sen. Hatch added that if he pardoned Se. Stevens' criminal acts, it would be more likely that Sen. Stevens would pardon Se. Hatches' criminal acts. "Club members take care of each other," Orrin wept. Sen. Hatch added that if he pardoned Se. Stevens’ criminal acts, it would be more likely that Sen. Stevens would pardon Se. Hatches’ criminal acts.

“Club members take care of each other,” Orrin wept.

]]> By: impeachcheneythenbush http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/02/stevens-pardon-hatch/comment-page-1/#comment-5364348 impeachcheneythenbush Tue, 02 Dec 2008 20:27:06 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/02/stevens-pardon-hatch/#comment-5364348 <em>With all the talk about former Deputy AG Holder giving Mark Rich ( Scooter Libby’s client ) a pardon when it was only President Clinton who had the authority to pardon Mr. Rich.</em> Jackie, what are you talking about? Holder didn't pardon Rich, he sent a recommendation over for Clinton stating "neutral, but leaning favorable." With all the talk about former Deputy AG Holder giving Mark Rich ( Scooter Libby’s client ) a pardon when it was only President Clinton who had the authority to pardon Mr. Rich.

Jackie, what are you talking about? Holder didn’t pardon Rich, he sent a recommendation over for Clinton stating “neutral, but leaning favorable.”

]]> By: MapleStreet http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/02/stevens-pardon-hatch/comment-page-1/#comment-5364318 MapleStreet Tue, 02 Dec 2008 20:15:03 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/02/stevens-pardon-hatch/#comment-5364318 So they're advocating going from conviction to pardon in just a couple of months ??? And they don't see how that is inappropriate ? So they’re advocating going from conviction to pardon in just a couple of months ??? And they don’t see how that is inappropriate ?

]]> By: katy http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/02/stevens-pardon-hatch/comment-page-1/#comment-5363876 katy Tue, 02 Dec 2008 18:09:16 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/02/stevens-pardon-hatch/#comment-5363876 i'm curious to see if durbin's request to have george ryan, former illinois governor, pardonned... at least HE is spending some time in prison... holy cow... i wanted to check the spelling of his name... there have been THREE illinois governors sent to prison... well, from what i read on the <a href="http://www.google.com/search?q=illinois%2C+governor%2C+prison&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a" rel="nofollow">google page</a> without scrolling... yeeow! i’m curious to see if durbin’s request to have george ryan, former illinois governor, pardonned… at least HE is spending some time in prison…

holy cow… i wanted to check the spelling of his name…
there have been THREE illinois governors sent to prison…
well, from what i read on the google page without scrolling…

yeeow!

]]> By: Jackie http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/02/stevens-pardon-hatch/comment-page-1/#comment-5363846 Jackie Tue, 02 Dec 2008 17:52:46 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/02/stevens-pardon-hatch/#comment-5363846 Bush will have to change the pardon rules to give Uncle Ted. Now yes the Bushman can do the same thing he did for Libby but to pardon Uncle Ted would present a problem. With all the talk about former Deputy AG Holder giving Mark Rich ( Scooter Libby's client ) a pardon when it was only President Clinton who had the authority to pardon Mr. Rich. This will be interesting to see how Bush brakes the law once again on his way out. Bush will have to change the pardon rules to give Uncle Ted. Now yes the Bushman can do the same thing he did for Libby but to pardon Uncle Ted would present a problem. With all the talk about former Deputy AG Holder giving Mark Rich ( Scooter Libby’s client ) a pardon when it was only President Clinton who had the authority to pardon Mr. Rich. This will be interesting to see how Bush brakes the law once again on his way out.

]]> By: The Skeptical Cynic http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/02/stevens-pardon-hatch/comment-page-1/#comment-5363834 The Skeptical Cynic Tue, 02 Dec 2008 17:46:46 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/02/stevens-pardon-hatch/#comment-5363834 <strong><em>Orrin Hatch has NEVER been anything more than one of the most unconscionable, hypocritical, low-life, pathologically, lying sociopathic,misanthropic to ever pollute the halls of Congress. the very sight of him or sound of his voiceis enough to cause any decent person's "skin to crawl" as if infested with scabies. For more revelations about one the Senate's major slim depositing slugs go to http://www.mormoncurtain.com/topic_orrinhatch.html.</em></strong> Orrin Hatch has NEVER been anything more than one of the most unconscionable, hypocritical, low-life, pathologically, lying sociopathic,misanthropic to ever pollute the halls of Congress. the very sight of him or sound of his voiceis enough to cause any decent person’s “skin to crawl” as if infested with scabies.
For more revelations about one the Senate’s major slim depositing slugs go to http://www.mormoncurtain.com/topic_orrinhatch.html.

]]> By: scytherius http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/02/stevens-pardon-hatch/comment-page-1/#comment-5363794 scytherius Tue, 02 Dec 2008 17:22:27 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/02/stevens-pardon-hatch/#comment-5363794 Interesting how the Mormon Senator advocates pardoning the liar and cheat. How utterly Mormon. Interesting how the Mormon Senator advocates pardoning the liar and cheat. How utterly Mormon.

]]> By: vinylspear http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/02/stevens-pardon-hatch/comment-page-1/#comment-5363780 vinylspear Tue, 02 Dec 2008 17:18:00 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/02/stevens-pardon-hatch/#comment-5363780 The good ole boy club, thumbing their noses at the people they are supposed to work for and the law. The good ole boy club, thumbing their noses at the people they are supposed to work for and the law.

]]> By: gummitch http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/02/stevens-pardon-hatch/comment-page-1/#comment-5363774 gummitch Tue, 02 Dec 2008 17:14:02 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/02/stevens-pardon-hatch/#comment-5363774 <em>Bilbo Hussein Baggins Says: “He has served this country for over 50 years,” No, he has served Alaska for 50 years. He has done nothing to serve his country. </em> You beat me to it. Stevens has been in office for 50 years because he's been the king of pork for Alaskans and only Alaskans. Bilbo Hussein Baggins Says:

“He has served this country for over 50 years,”

No, he has served Alaska for 50 years. He has done nothing to serve his country.

You beat me to it. Stevens has been in office for 50 years because he’s been the king of pork for Alaskans and only Alaskans.

]]> By: a0d7fzz http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/02/stevens-pardon-hatch/comment-page-1/#comment-5363744 a0d7fzz Tue, 02 Dec 2008 16:51:54 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/02/stevens-pardon-hatch/#comment-5363744 Orrin Hatch is a scumbag. Orrin Hatch is a scumbag.

]]> By: Keith H. http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/02/stevens-pardon-hatch/comment-page-1/#comment-5363730 Keith H. Tue, 02 Dec 2008 16:41:51 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/02/stevens-pardon-hatch/#comment-5363730 I can't believe there had to be a vote for him to be fired from his job, but there was, and he was. He's so old he's going to die before he sees the inside of the jail anyway. I can’t believe there had to be a vote for him to be fired from his job, but there was, and he was.
He’s so old he’s going to die before he sees the inside of the jail anyway.

]]> By: Zimzone http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/02/stevens-pardon-hatch/comment-page-1/#comment-5363718 Zimzone Tue, 02 Dec 2008 16:31:01 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/02/stevens-pardon-hatch/#comment-5363718 Pardon me, but their is no pardon justified for old Ted. None. Breaching the public trust should include losing your congressional pension, jail time, fines and being put on a 'loser list' that should be posted in public squares. <em> Plus, how can you pardon someone who claims he's innocent?</em> Pardon me, but their is no pardon justified for old Ted. None.

Breaching the public trust should include losing your congressional pension, jail time, fines and being put on a ‘loser list’ that should be posted in public squares.

Plus, how can you pardon someone who claims he’s innocent?

]]> By: misshusseinmolly http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/02/stevens-pardon-hatch/comment-page-1/#comment-5363716 misshusseinmolly Tue, 02 Dec 2008 16:29:37 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/02/stevens-pardon-hatch/#comment-5363716 I suspect our jails are full of people who have served this country and have spent at least a fair part of their lives being upstanding model citizens. This doesn't excuse whatever offense landed them where they are. We cannot have one set of standards for hoi polloi and one for people like Stevens. Orrin Hatch is way off-base on this one. I suspect our jails are full of people who have served this country and have spent at least a fair part of their lives being upstanding model citizens. This doesn’t excuse whatever offense landed them where they are.

We cannot have one set of standards for hoi polloi and one for people like Stevens. Orrin Hatch is way off-base on this one.

]]> By: bonzo 1958 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/02/stevens-pardon-hatch/comment-page-1/#comment-5363712 bonzo 1958 Tue, 02 Dec 2008 16:27:25 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/02/stevens-pardon-hatch/#comment-5363712 "the recently convicted felon." "Sen. Daniel Inouye (D-HI), noted to Politico that it would be contradictory for Stevens to be pardoned because “he maintains his innocence.” “If you pardon someone, you’re assuming he’s guilty,” said Inouye." I'm not assuming this guy is a dumbass, I know he is. “the recently convicted felon.”

“Sen. Daniel Inouye (D-HI), noted to Politico that it would be contradictory for Stevens to be pardoned because “he maintains his innocence.” “If you pardon someone, you’re assuming he’s guilty,” said Inouye.”

I’m not assuming this guy is a dumbass, I know he is.

]]> By: Scottsdalian http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/02/stevens-pardon-hatch/comment-page-1/#comment-5363708 Scottsdalian Tue, 02 Dec 2008 16:19:58 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/02/stevens-pardon-hatch/#comment-5363708 "...said Sen. Orrin G. Hatch (R-Utah), a <strong><em>widely respected member of the Judiciary Committee</em></strong>..." Widely respected by who????????????????? Not me. “…said Sen. Orrin G. Hatch (R-Utah), a widely respected member of the Judiciary Committee…”

Widely respected by who?????????????????

Not me.

]]> By: Bilbo Hussein Baggins http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/02/stevens-pardon-hatch/comment-page-1/#comment-5363710 Bilbo Hussein Baggins Tue, 02 Dec 2008 16:19:52 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/02/stevens-pardon-hatch/#comment-5363710 <em>“He has served this country for over 50 years,” </em> No, he has served Alaska for 50 years. He has done nothing to serve his country. And I agree with everyone else here, what a bad precedent to set. If I had been a good productive citizen for 50 years and then I stole a TV from Walmart, do you think that anyone would say that because I was a productive citizen for 50 years I should be allowed to get away with stealing? I DON'T THINK SO! “He has served this country for over 50 years,”

No, he has served Alaska for 50 years. He has done nothing to serve his country. And I agree with everyone else here, what a bad precedent to set. If I had been a good productive citizen for 50 years and then I stole a TV from Walmart, do you think that anyone would say that because I was a productive citizen for 50 years I should be allowed to get away with stealing? I DON’T THINK SO!

]]> By: ralph the wonder llama http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/02/stevens-pardon-hatch/comment-page-1/#comment-5363706 ralph the wonder llama Tue, 02 Dec 2008 16:18:54 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/02/stevens-pardon-hatch/#comment-5363706 So... does Orrin Hatch support pardoning every military veteran who has ever come back home and committed a crime? After all, they served their country too. Shouldn't they get a "Get Out of Jail Free" card, the same as Stevens? So… does Orrin Hatch support pardoning every military veteran who has ever come back home and committed a crime? After all, they served their country too. Shouldn’t they get a “Get Out of Jail Free” card, the same as Stevens?

]]> By: SWBob http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/02/stevens-pardon-hatch/comment-page-1/#comment-5363704 SWBob Tue, 02 Dec 2008 16:17:52 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/02/stevens-pardon-hatch/#comment-5363704 <blockquote><em>“He has served this country for over 50 years,” said Sen. Orrin G. Hatch (R-Utah),....</em></blockquote> How long someone has been in a position of trust which they have abused is not a reason to allow them to avoid the penalities associated with their violation of the law and trashing of public trust. Stevens is a crook and liar. Because he fooled the voters of Alaska (which appears easier than in most states) doesn't mean he's has served the interests of this country and should be tossed in jail as an example to everyone else in office. Remember, this guy continues to deny that he's done anything wrong. So much for honesty.

“He has served this country for over 50 years,” said Sen. Orrin G. Hatch (R-Utah),….

How long someone has been in a position of trust which they have abused is not a reason to allow them to avoid the penalities associated with their violation of the law and trashing of public trust. Stevens is a crook and liar. Because he fooled the voters of Alaska (which appears easier than in most states) doesn’t mean he’s has served the interests of this country and should be tossed in jail as an example to everyone else in office. Remember, this guy continues to deny that he’s done anything wrong. So much for honesty.

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