Novak: ‘I Don’t Think I Hurt Valerie Plame’ And I Would Out Her Again Because The Left ‘Tried To Ruin Me’
Novak: ‘I Don’t Think I Hurt Valerie Plame’ And I Would Out Her Again Because The Left ‘Tried To Ruin Me’
During a recent interview with the National Ledger, conservative columnist Robert Novak was asked if he would reveal Valerie Plame Wilson’s secret CIA identity if he could go back and do it all over again. Novak noted that he has previously said he “should have ignored” what he had been told about Plame, but he now claims he is “much less ambivalent“:
NOVAK: I’d go full speed ahead because of the hateful and beastly way in which my left-wing critics in the press and Congress tried to make a political affair out of it and tried to ruin me. My response now is this: The hell with you. They didn’t ruin me. I have my faith, my family, and a good life. A lot of people love me — or like me. So they failed. I would do the same thing over again because I don’t think I hurt Valerie Plame whatsoever.
But of course, Plame was “hurt” because of Novak’s column — she no longer has a career as a covert CIA agent. Moreover, Plame has said that she feared for her and her family’s lives after Novak revealed her identity.
But Novak ignores the point that Plame’s outing had broader national security implications. In fact, Plame’s CIA job was to stop Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons and as one former senior intelligence officer put it, the leak made “it harder for other CIA officers to recruit sources.”
Novak also claimed “it was an important story because it explained why the CIA would send Joe Wilson [Plame's husband] — a former Clinton White House aide with no track record in intelligence and no experience in Niger — on a fact-finding mission to Africa.” Except, Wilson did have experience in Niger, not only as a foreign service officer but as the NSC’s Senior Director of African Affairs during the Clinton administration as he explained to TPM:
WILSON: Why me? Because I knew a lot about the [uranium] business [...] I knew all of the personalities who would have been involved in this sort of interaction, because I had been at the White House during the time when the transaction purportedly took place.
Earlier in the interview with the National Ledger, Novak said that Vice President Dick Cheney is “the most forceful, effective vice president in history.” Given the dark “cloud” that hangs over the vice president’s involvement in the whole Plame saga, it is perhaps easy to understand Novak’s lack of remorse.
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That man is seriously mentally ill to harbour those thoughts.
December 3rd, 2008 at 10:55 amNice comb-over, stupid, old piece of shit.
December 3rd, 2008 at 10:55 amWhat is it the moron Novak doesn’t understand about treason? We all know now Plame was working on WMD issues in the middle east. One has to wonder about the real motive of those who fed him the information, which was also treason by the way. I would happily see my tax dollars being used to prosecute Novak and the rest of the treasonous bastards.
December 3rd, 2008 at 10:56 amWow. Just, wow.
December 3rd, 2008 at 10:58 amO
December 3rd, 2008 at 10:58 amBitterness, hatred and dishonesty until the end eh Bob? And because of that, all the pious faith in the world isn’t going to save you from your reserved seat on Beelzebub’s bus to Hade’s Shady resort.
Just saying . . .
December 3rd, 2008 at 10:59 amOnce a neocon, always a deluded liar. Robert Novak is no exception.
December 3rd, 2008 at 10:59 amHis terminal disease needs to return.
December 3rd, 2008 at 11:00 amThis traitorous scum should be rotting in prison.
December 3rd, 2008 at 11:00 amNovak is following in Cheney’s footsteps as he tells everyone to go *f* themselves.
BTW before Wilson was “a former Clinton White House aide” he was GHWBush’s acting ambassador to Iraq and ambassador to Gabon.
December 3rd, 2008 at 11:00 amCan’t we just round up these fools (Novak, Kristol, turdblossom, limpbutt, insanity, etc), put them in a row boat without oars, and drop them in the middle of the ocean. I am sick to death of their dribble.
December 3rd, 2008 at 11:01 amBut of course, Plame was “hurt” because of Novak’s column — she no longer has a career as a covert CIA agent. Moreover, Plame has said that she feared for her and her family’s lives after Novak revealed her identity.
Bob Novass needs his tired old ass held accoutable. If that had been someone on the left, the right wing in this country would have been up in arms.
Why has no one given any thought to how many of her undercover contacts might have been killed or which sensitive programs were compromised once her cover was blown by Novas?
December 3rd, 2008 at 11:02 amUnder FEDERAL law, outing a CIA agent is TREASON. By his own admission, he betrayed his country, and would gladly do it again. HANG THE TREASONOUS BASTARD!
December 3rd, 2008 at 11:03 amBTW- hanging is the TRADITIONAL way of dealing with traitors in nearly every society.
December 3rd, 2008 at 11:04 amMy response now is this: The hell with you. They didn’t ruin me. I have my faith, my family, and a good life.
Yay, Bob, you looked after Number One! I’m sure the God of your faith will look favorably upon this, whilst your infidel enemies burn in hell.
December 3rd, 2008 at 11:05 amIf you spray-painted this guy a dirty shade of green from head-to-toe, would anyone be able to tell the difference between him and Oscar the Grouch?
December 3rd, 2008 at 11:05 amWhen a guy will unapologeticly run down a bicyclist with his Corvette, is it REALLY a surprise he would have no clue what he did wrong?
December 3rd, 2008 at 11:07 am“I would do the same thing over again because I don’t think I hurt Valerie Plame whatsoever.”
And if one of the groups that she was investigating got their hands on WMD’s which were then used to attack Americans then would he?
This man knows full and well that this is the risk that he actually took and he shows no remorse. The punishment for treason is death. It doesn’t matter how many people you think “like” you.
December 3rd, 2008 at 11:07 amI have my faith, my family, and a good life. A lot of people love me — or like me.
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Charles Manson also had faith, a family, and a lot of people who liked him. What’s your point, Bob?
December 3rd, 2008 at 11:08 amme, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me… etc.
Don’t these self-absorbed talking heads ever think about anything besides themselves?
Didn’t think so.
December 3rd, 2008 at 11:09 amI’d go full speed ahead because of the hateful and beastly way in which my left-wing critics in the press and Congress tried to make a political affair out of it and tried to ruin me.
That’s it? That’s his rationale for treason? They picked on me? What a crybaby!
December 3rd, 2008 at 11:10 amNOVAK: I’d go full speed ahead because of the hateful and beastly way in which my left-wing critics in the press and Congress tried to make a political affair out of it and tried to ruin me.
Yeah, like you had absolutely NOTHING to do with your own public “humiliation”. I know, I know, everything is always someone else’s fault and you are innocent.
Spare me the santimony…
December 3rd, 2008 at 11:11 amLet’s be clear here: what Novak did is TREASON. He should face criminal charges of endangering our national security and for destroying the career of Valerie Plame.
Novak is apparently a very, very petty man. So just because he was criticized for his treasonous act, he thinks that it is OK that he outed a CIA agent. No dice, man.
If only we had a real president who really cared about national security… oh wait, we will in just over a month! Maybe the new Obama administration will take a second look at Novak’s treason and take appropriate action. I hope he rots in hell.
December 3rd, 2008 at 11:11 amJUST DIE ALREADY !!
December 3rd, 2008 at 11:15 amHe’d gladly compromise our national security again to avenge a political party. Must be a card-carrying “strong on defense” GOOP member.
December 3rd, 2008 at 11:15 amJesus.
What a sad, bitter man.
December 3rd, 2008 at 11:15 amI don’t get it.
Novak says that he would pre-emptively commit treason again, because his left-wing critics would make a political affair of his treason again?
December 3rd, 2008 at 11:15 amCan the right NeoCONS ever stop fcking whining?
Geez flippin’ Louise.
December 3rd, 2008 at 11:17 amONLY I AM THE VICTIM!! WAAAH!!
December 3rd, 2008 at 11:18 amWhat a mean-spirited, self-absorbed a$$hole! He would out a covert agent, endanger her life and the lives of her teammates, and blow a covert operation necessary to our national security out of the water just because everything is all about him????
And then he has the gall to claim that nothing he did hurt the agent. Never mind that he still has a career (such as it is), and she doesn’t. Never mind that he’s never had to fear for his safety after her cover was blown and she has. Never mind that the entire Iran/nuclear operation was scuttled — an operation that would have yielded valuable information.
What a jerk. I won’t even get into his hitting pedestrians and driving away.
December 3rd, 2008 at 11:19 amBobby, you were ruined a long time ago. And I don’t think it was anyone on the “left” who caused it.
December 3rd, 2008 at 11:19 amEat shit Novak. Don’t dare call yourself the victim. What kind of twisted logic is that???
December 3rd, 2008 at 11:22 amShouldn’t he be out running down pedestrians?
December 3rd, 2008 at 11:24 amFirst problem Novack said is ” I don’t think I hurt”, next statement a prosecutors dream ” I would out her again “. An admission of guilty with a reason. Where’s the Wilson’s attorney for this statement it could be used in the trial. Now Novack hs to claim he’s legally insane to get away with it this time. If a newspaper hires an insane newspaper that would be a great headline.
December 3rd, 2008 at 11:24 amoops sorry misshusseinmolly. I missed it
December 3rd, 2008 at 11:24 amIt’s all about bob. or is it bohner, cry, cry, cry. And be gone and happy with your own.
December 3rd, 2008 at 11:26 amDrop dead, you filthy old barstid.
Geesh. What the heck is it with these whiny bullies?? I’m sick to death of them.
December 3rd, 2008 at 11:29 amBuckie Boy Says:
“This traitorous scum should be rotting in prison.”
I say he should be rotting at the end of a rope on the White House lawn! Being a bitter meal for birds and worms will be the most productive thing Novak could ever do.
December 3rd, 2008 at 11:30 amHe didn’t hurt Valerie Plame. He ended her career, but she’s fine. He hurt all of our deep cover CIA agents whose lives are on the line protecting our freedoms.
December 3rd, 2008 at 11:34 amNovak is just like bush: sleazy. Nothing but pond-scum.
December 3rd, 2008 at 11:37 amI think Novakula just admitted to treason.
Somebody, please drive a stake through his feculent, reeking “heart.”
December 3rd, 2008 at 11:40 amGuess what a$$hole ?
December 3rd, 2008 at 11:42 amIt’s no one else’s fault, you ruined yourself.
And … I hope you get run over by a vette.
Just a bad, bad American and a disgusting excuse for a man… but he’s got his faith!
December 3rd, 2008 at 11:44 amHe probably feels the same way about the guy he ran over with his Corvette and left lying in the street. That’s when the remorseless sack of cr*p came up with the alleged brain tumor. He only cares about himself. Well at least he’s off television.
December 3rd, 2008 at 11:48 amPoor Bob. Picked on by people who thought it offensive that he should out a CIA agent when all he was doing was carrying President Cheney’s water, like all the rest of the conservatives in Washington over the past 8 years.
Heck, even the President carried Cheney’s water – had to, if as W states he never compromised his principles. As a supposed God-fearing man, he should review some of those commandments. Oh well, a few decades from now who will care . . .
December 3rd, 2008 at 11:49 amYou want to be really clear about this? Novak won’t have anything done to him – not in this life anyway. He’s had enablers and encouragers and they’ll protect him. He won’t be tried for treason, and he’ll never go to jail. All we can hope for is that he, along with all the other Neocons who have done such damage will be paid back by Karma, and she can be a real BI*CH.
December 3rd, 2008 at 11:54 amA miserable excuse for something human..Blessings
December 3rd, 2008 at 11:54 amThere are people who like Novak? Is he prepared to name names?
December 3rd, 2008 at 12:03 pmOh. My. God. What a piece of sh*t!
It’s like Jeffrey Dahmer saying, “Yeah I’d kill all those people again because the police tried to convict me.”
Except, of course, the police succeeded with Dahmer, while this traitorous, vindictive, vile scum still walks around in his cushy life, with plenty of neo-scum sycophants around to tell him he’s a great guy. Let’s not forget that unknown numbers of people WERE hurt, as in hurt dead, by his actions.
Got faith, huh? Well, faith ain’t even the half of it. This guy’s goin’ to a special place in Hell. I have faith in that.
December 3rd, 2008 at 12:05 pmGeeDubs Says:
All we can hope for is that he, along with all the other Neocons who have done such damage will be paid back by Karma, and she can be a real BI*CH.
December 3rd, 2008 at 11:54 am
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Well, he is dying of cancer. I guess that’s a little consolation.
December 3rd, 2008 at 12:05 pmDoesn’t he have a brain tumor of some kind to tend to?
December 3rd, 2008 at 12:07 pmGeez, how can someone be so f_cking self-centered and blind to what he has done?
December 3rd, 2008 at 12:08 pmI guess I have a hard time grasping the delusional concepts that fester in these neocon b@stard’s cesspools they call their minds…..
Keith H. Says:
… I hope you get run over by a vette.
I would never dirty my vette with this scum bag, my jeep, yes, my vette, no.
December 3rd, 2008 at 12:15 pmIt’s not a tumah!
December 3rd, 2008 at 12:17 pmA great Valerie Plame “stocking stuffer” for the holidays: Robert Novak’s balls.
December 3rd, 2008 at 12:19 pmFor goodness sake Bob, you outed a covert CIA opeative and a very valuable one at that.
You should be prosecuted and sent to jail.
December 3rd, 2008 at 12:27 pmPresident-elect Obama, how about Plame as head of the CIA?
Paybacks are a b!tch & what a great way to start…
December 3rd, 2008 at 12:27 pm” I don’t think…”
That is the only correct statement in the article.
December 3rd, 2008 at 12:28 pmZimzone Says:
President-elect Obama, how about Plame as head of the CIA?
I like the way you think =)
December 3rd, 2008 at 12:39 pmI wonder if it hurts to rot in an Iranian prison.
December 3rd, 2008 at 12:48 pmAsk yourself this, what would have happened if one of us lowly serfs outed a covert agent?
Death penalty, anyone?
December 3rd, 2008 at 12:54 pmI thought this vile bastard had an inoperable brain tumor or some other fitting ailment.
December 3rd, 2008 at 1:01 pmOnly if it were during a time of war.
Oops!
December 3rd, 2008 at 1:03 pmShouldn’t you be dead, traitor Bob? Don’t let the coffin lid hit you on the way out, dirtbag.
December 3rd, 2008 at 1:06 pmNot NEARLY as many ‘people who despise you – or loathe you’.
DNFP’s point (comment #2) about the comb over actually has relevance to Novak’s state of mind. VERY outward sign of LIVING in a state of denial, every time he looks in a mirror and flops that wad of side-head hair over the top and pastes it down he’s broadcasting his delusion state.
iDEA ! Let’s just stop interviewing him already.
December 3rd, 2008 at 1:11 pmOuting a spy is a serious offeense.
Runnig down a guy on a bike on purpose is also a serious offense.
Lock this traitor/attempted murderer up already!
December 3rd, 2008 at 1:27 pmIs Novak insane?..he sure thinks like an insane person, “I am persecuted… I am not revered and loved as I should be..I am not taken seriouly..I am not respected enough…they won’t let me run every thing and every body (persecute who I WANT to persecute) tell lies and spread my ideology (an Ideology that should be taken as gospel..because it come from ME!!) every body hates me”…”I’LL FIX THEM!! I”LL MAKE THEM ALL PAY!!!!”
December 3rd, 2008 at 1:27 pmRamblings of an unbalanced mind….
Thats insanity personified….
There will be no Lee Atwater death bed apologies from the Prince of Darkness.
December 3rd, 2008 at 1:27 pmNovak has been a bloviating old mean sackofs hit his whole life. Perhaps a bag of tar and feathers and light rail would be an appropriate gift for the end of his career.
December 3rd, 2008 at 1:29 pmNovak: ‘I Don’t Think I Hurt Valerie Plame’ And I Would Out Her Again Because The Left ‘Tried To Ruin Me’
Yeah. The “left” (and pretty much any sapient human beings around) tried to ‘out’ Novakula as a partisan hack and thug undercover in disguise of being a “journalist” (but we were not fooled, we could tell….)
Cheers,
December 3rd, 2008 at 1:33 pmMugsy, whilst I personally and strongly dislike Robert Novak, and believe he committed a felony when he outed Valerie Plame, the facts are Mr. Novak’s brain cancer effected his vision, and, as a result, he failed to see the bicyclist.
December 3rd, 2008 at 1:35 pmIts odd. The repubs are so quick to blame the dems for playing the victim.
Yet, when an event happens, the repubs are always the wounded victim and the dems are the offenders. All the way up to the poor prez who was the victim of the economic policies of over a decade ago and the Iraq war.
December 3rd, 2008 at 1:43 pmmarkusmarkus Says: “…the facts are Mr. Novak’s brain cancer effected his vision, and, as a result, he failed to see the bicyclist.”
Is that a fact?
December 3rd, 2008 at 1:54 pmBob’s a little testy because conservatism crapped out.
December 3rd, 2008 at 2:02 pmCount me among the hateful beasts, though I’m not a left winger. This Novak creep is enough to make one question freedom of speech at times. Good thing I’m not in charge! I mean, this guy is so disgusting, it’s even difficult to sympathize with his serious medical condition. It’s a test, I suppose, of my humanity, or principles, or something. I don’t even like seeing his name in print — sickening, a total waste of a human life.
December 3rd, 2008 at 2:03 pmmarkusmarkus Says:
Mugsy, whilst I personally and strongly dislike Robert Novak, and believe he committed a felony when he outed Valerie Plame, the facts are Mr. Novak’s brain cancer effected his vision, and, as a result, he failed to see the bicyclist.
December 3rd, 2008 at 1:35 pm
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So?
If that’s the case, he shouldn’t have been driving at all. It’s criminal negligence either way.
December 3rd, 2008 at 2:05 pmthe brown acid Says:
Ask yourself this, what would have happened if one of us lowly serfs outed a covert agent?
Death penalty, anyone?
shoeless says:
Only if it were during a time of war.
When Novak pulled his stunt, we WERE at war, dumbass. Or did you forget about Afghanistan?
Oops!
December 3rd, 2008 at 2:15 pmyeah, it is. His “accident”was widely covered in the DC papers. Novak sold his car (a Vette) qfter he hit the cyclist. It was then that he supposedly realized that the tumor was affecting his sight.
December 3rd, 2008 at 2:20 pmConcur.
December 3rd, 2008 at 2:22 pmSo the unrepentent traitor would do it again out of vengeance.
Vengeance against those who saw his act of treason for what it was.
That dark cloud that hovers over Cheney is also hanging over your own head, Novak. Most people, when faced with their mortality, demonstrate regret for their mistakes. Not you, though — we shouldn’t have expected it — a soul-less man.
Nice way to come to the end of your life.
December 3rd, 2008 at 2:32 pmmisshusseinmolly Says:
What a jerk. I won’t even get into his hitting pedestrians and driving away.
You forgot the getting away with it part. As far as I know he wasn’t even cited for leaving the scene of an accident.
December 3rd, 2008 at 3:04 pmRobert Novak.
A lesson on how NOT to die with dignity.
December 3rd, 2008 at 3:34 pmAfter the reference to Valerie Plame Wilson popped up in Novak’s column and her covert CIA identity was exposed in July 2003, the CIA had to conduct an after-incident damage assessment.
If there had been no damage down to our national security due to the Bush administration outing her, then this report would have been released long ago…it hasn’t. Even in redacted form it hasn’t been released.
Around the same time that this after-incident damage assessment was being done in the latter half of 2003, the CIA asked the Ashcroft-headed Justice Department to investigate and bring criminal charges against all the Bush administration officials responsible for outing her.
So, will the incoming Obama administration finally release this CIA after-incident damage assessment report, in either its redacted or unredacted form? Will we finally learn what actual damage to our national security occurred because some Republicans with “loose lips” decided to play political games with the covert identity of one of our nation’s top counter-terrorism, counter-nuclear proliferation CIA NOC field agents?
Because, logic says that if there had been no damage done to our national security then this CIA after-incident damage assessment report would have already been released long ago, and probably would have been used as part of Scooter Libby’s defense…that is, no harm, no foul.
Thus, harm was done, not only to Valerie Plame Wilson’s twenty-year career, but also to our national security.
Novak should have listened to the two CIA officials who tried to warn him off mentioning anything about Mrs. Wilson’s CIA connections before Novak’s article went to press, even though these two CIA officials couldn’t be more specific due to the highly-sensitive and highly-classified nature of Mrs. Wilson’s national security job.
Novak didn’t listen. Novak should have known better.
But I still want to see the CIA’s after-incident damage assessment report, even if redacted, so we can finally discover the full extent of the damage the traitorous and treasonous outing of Valerie Plame Wilson had on our national security.
Hopefully, President Barack Obama will tell his Blue Dog Democrat advisers to tear the Republican stonewall down, and order the heads of the CIA and Justice Department to release this long-hidden CIA after-incident damage assessment report. I’ll be waiting.
December 3rd, 2008 at 3:48 pmDuh, SHE WASN’T COVERT. She was going to Langley all the time. Her cover was blown many years earlier. Even the Russians mentioned her name in some papers.
See this:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2005/jul/15/20050715-121257-9887r/
And track down the Washington Post’s APOLOGY for wasting everyone’s time with the Plame stories.
December 3rd, 2008 at 3:49 pmlet me get this straight: this “journalist” committed treason because the big bad libs were out to get him? he should be hung by the neck until dead. i believe that’s the corrct punishment for treason during a time of war is it not?
December 3rd, 2008 at 3:53 pmHis “accident”was widely covered in the DC papers. Novak sold his car (a Vette) qfter he hit the cyclist. It was then that he supposedly realized that the tumor was affecting his sight.
Thanks, markus2, not reading the DC papers I didn’t know. From your comment it appears he did know he had the tumor at that time.
December 3rd, 2008 at 3:57 pmWho is he blaming that on? His critics?
Alz Says:
Duh, SHE WASN’T COVERT. She was going to Langley all the time. Her cover was blown many years earlier. Even the Russians mentioned her name in some papers.
December 3rd, 2008 at 3:49 pm
Simpleton. She was covert — the judge in this case said it from the bench. Don’t link to the Moonie Times, unless you want to laugh at you more.
December 3rd, 2008 at 4:10 pmZooey Says:
Here’s the Post’s APOLOGY:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/08/31/AR2006083101460_pf.html
Some excerpts:
“But all those who have opined on this affair ought to take note of the not-so-surprising disclosure that the primary source of the newspaper column in which Ms. Plame’s cover as an agent was purportedly blown in 2003 was former deputy secretary of state Richard L. Armitage.”
“It follows that one of the most sensational charges leveled against the Bush White House — that it orchestrated the leak of Ms. Plame’s identity to ruin her career and thus punish Mr. Wilson — is untrue.”
“Nevertheless, it now appears that the person most responsible for the end of Ms. Plame’s CIA career is Mr. Wilson. Mr. Wilson chose to go public with an explosive charge, claiming — falsely, as it turned out — that he had debunked reports of Iraqi uranium-shopping in Niger and that his report had circulated to senior administration officials. He ought to have expected that both those officials and journalists such as Mr. Novak would ask why a retired ambassador would have been sent on such a mission and that the answer would point to his wife. He diverted responsibility from himself and his false charges by claiming that President Bush’s closest aides had engaged in an illegal conspiracy. It’s unfortunate that so many people took him seriously.”
Yes, just think about the amount of effort put into this (like this article) and turned out to be false.
Please read more on the subject (as much as you can from varied sources), accumulate the pro and con evidence and alter your opinion. Reason requires it.
(BTW, the Washington Times does some good reporting.)
December 3rd, 2008 at 4:19 pmThe CIA officially held Valerie Plame as a covert agent.
The CIA officially held that her company was a “front company” for her covert operations.
This was all blown away by the leak.
Alz can say what he likes about the Wash Times being a good newspaper but he obviously doesn’t read much.
December 3rd, 2008 at 4:51 pmWhy is it so hard for peeple to understand that covert agents go to work at “regular” jobs for all outward appearances?
December 3rd, 2008 at 4:51 pmThat’s how they remain covert.
“…disclosed for the first time today in a court filing by Special Counsel Patrick Fitzgerald, indicates that Plame was “covert” when her name became public in July 2003.”
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18924679/
“Yes, Valerie Plame Was Covert
December 3rd, 2008 at 5:13 pmBy Kevin Drum
May 29, 2007″
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/05/29/politics/animal/main2865777.shtml
I know. I was being snarky.
Seriously, Robert Novak, Judith Miller, Scooter Libby, Karl Rove, Dick Cheney, and probably George W. Bush should all face a firing squad for treason during time of war.
December 3rd, 2008 at 5:26 pmOh, and let’s not forget that George W. Bush said at the time, that we were in a Global War Against Terror.
December 3rd, 2008 at 5:28 pmI thought we still were in a Global War Against Terror. How does this jive with Krystals we won in Iraq deal. Oh and by the way what color threat status are we at? Is it Orange or Yellow? Maybe it is sort of a goldenrod or maybe a lovely mauve. Does anyone know or have we given up on that whole silliness…
December 3rd, 2008 at 5:34 pmSorry to stray, I just like to coordinate my wardrobe with the threat level. It is just this thing I do…
December 3rd, 2008 at 5:35 pmPiss Yellow
December 3rd, 2008 at 5:48 pmIt’s grasping, soulless,intellectual prostitute scum like Novak that makes me hope there really is a Hell!
December 3rd, 2008 at 5:49 pmDoes shit your pants brown go with that? I have an important meeting tomorrow.
December 3rd, 2008 at 5:49 pmWhy isn’t this evil, wet fart rotting in prison?
December 3rd, 2008 at 6:38 pmAGAIN! You folks are entitled to your OPINIONS but not your own set of FACTS:
Ms. Plame was NOT a covert agent.
December 3rd, 2008 at 6:53 pmFACT:
Scooter Libbey was caught in a classic “perjury trap.” He had NOTHING to do with “leaking” her name.
FACT:
If Ms. Plame had actually been covert and her identity covered under the law that makes it illegal to reveal her employment at the CIA, FITZGERALD would have PROSECUTED Richard Armitage!!!!!!!!
You morons just don’t have a clue…
December 3rd, 2008 at 6:58 pmThe head of the CIA said she WAS covert. She was not just an agent, but the head of a group working on non-proliferation in Iran and Iraq! Ironic, ain’t it?
She was outed as retaliation for Joe Wilson telling the truth about Dubya’s lies in the Jan 2003 SOTU. It was known 11 months previously that the stories about acquiring yellowcake from Africa and aluminum tubes were FALSE.
December 3rd, 2008 at 6:58 pmAlthough it pains me, I suppose I have to ask Tim to put up some evidence to support his idea. To save time can we agree that they need to be legit?
December 3rd, 2008 at 6:59 pmTim in your mind what makes you not a moron. Please share your credentials and curriculum vitae. Thanks
December 3rd, 2008 at 7:00 pmYou folks OBVIOUSLY missed the news that Ms. Plame AND her husband lost in court BECAUSE she was NOT covert!
December 3rd, 2008 at 7:00 pmAlz,
You are correct, but the morons here have NO use for facts!
December 3rd, 2008 at 7:02 pmKeith,
You are simply wrong. Jow Wilson’s “report” wasn’t even put into the proper written format, and besides he actually didn’t refute anything.
Geez, get a clue.
December 3rd, 2008 at 7:04 pmWhy would someone hang out with people he considers morons?
December 3rd, 2008 at 7:05 pmCIA Director Hayden: Valerie Plame Was Covert Agent
Posted Mar 16th 2007 11:41AM by David Knowles
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This will be a bitter pill for some conservatives to swallow. CIA Director Michael Hayden personally reviewed and okayed Henry Waxman’s opening statement for Valerie Plame’s testimony today. Furthermore, Hayden took pains to set the record straight: Plame was indeed a covert agent up until the day Robert Novak revealed as much to the public
http://oversight.house.gov/story.asp?ID=1205
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plame_affair
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/10/17/60minutes/main3378089.shtml
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18924679/
December 3rd, 2008 at 7:08 pmDon’t facts need to be substantiated?
December 3rd, 2008 at 7:10 pmTim Vaculik, yes you are right. She was not covert. Otherwise Fitzgerald would have gone after the leaker (Armitage.)
The whole liberal establishment is caught in this lie and they cannot get themselves out of it. (I guess, like everything in their little world, they really don’t want to get out of it.)
As for Keith, who said Wilson was telling the truth, he lied too. He said his wife had nothing to do with him going to Niger and she did.
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9B05E2DC133AF93AA25754C0A9629C8B63
And the sixteen words in Bush’s State of the Union (”The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa”) turned out to be true.
The whole mess should have come toppling down years ago, but liberals persisted in their lying – abetted by a willing media. Heck, even the Washington Post apologized: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/08/31/AR2006083101460_pf.html
December 3rd, 2008 at 7:11 pmWell let’s see…. Keith seems to get the concept. Now let’s see how Tim handles his turn shall we?
December 3rd, 2008 at 7:11 pmDavid Corn, thenation.com July 16, 2003:
“Wilson was a good pick for the job. He had been a State Department officer there in the mid-1970s. He was ambassador to Gabon in the early 1990s. And in 1997 and 1998, he was the senior director for Africa at the National Security Council and in that capacity spent a lot of time dealing with the Niger government. Wilson was also the last acting US ambassador in Iraq before the Gulf War, a military action he supported. In that post, he helped evacuate thousands of foreigners from Kuwait, worked to get over 120 American hostages out Iraq, and sheltered about 800 Americans in the embassy compound. At the time, Novak’s then-partner, Rowland Evans, wrote that Wilson displayed “the stuff of heroism.” And President George H. W. Bush commended Wilson: “Your courageous leadership during this period of great danger for American interests and American citizens has my admiration and respect. I salute, too, your skillful conduct of our tense dealings with the government of Iraq….The courage and tenacity you have exhibited throughout this ordeal prove that you are the right person for the job.”
December 3rd, 2008 at 7:15 pmAlz must be short for Alzheimer.
December 3rd, 2008 at 7:16 pmAlz a vacuum licker, under your logic, why was Plame not convicted of perjury when she pointedly said over and over and over under oath that she was a covert agent?
The CIA director, Hayden, said she was covert!!!!!!!!!!!
Google it!
She was the head of a group working against the proliferation of nuclear weapons in Iran and Iraq, for christsake.
December 3rd, 2008 at 7:20 pmdbadass, does it seem like 1984 to you? It does to me.
December 3rd, 2008 at 7:22 pmwell other than the lack of stonewashed jeans, yes. Yes it does.
December 3rd, 2008 at 7:30 pmKeith,
If she was covert, then why didn’t Fitzgerald go after someone for breaking the Intelligence Identities Protection Act?
Fitzgerald wanted it both ways. He couldn’t prove she was covert (and thus no one was charged) but he used it in the sentencing hearing of Libby – because the rules sentencing hearings aren’t as strict regarding proving assertions.
If she was covert – which is the central question – someone would have been charged.
From http://www.americanthinker.com/2007/05/fitzgerald_plame_cia_director.html
“As Andrea Mitchell stated, ‘everyone’ knew that Plame was CIA. And there’s more. Victoria Toensing is the attorney who drafted the IIPA. She, too, testified before Waxman’s committee, and she had handy the Senate Report on the IIPA, that spelled out what the Act was intended to cover. Referring to page 16 of the Senate Report Toensing stated (under oath): ‘Notably, the legislation limited coverage of U.S. citizen informants or sources (agents) also to situations where they “reside and act outside the United States.’ Toensing then quoted Joe Wilson’s (self) absorbing autobiography to show that Plame had returned to the US in 1997 and had never ‘resided and acted’ overseas again.”
As for Hayden’s comments, see that American Thinker article. The MSNBC story about Plame’s covert status was torn apart at the end.
The simple fact is NO ONE WAS CHARGED for the leaking part – NO ONE. Since the covert question is the central question, it’s safe to say it’s more liberal fantasy.
December 3rd, 2008 at 7:30 pmKeith,
As for David Corn’s piece on Wilson, I suspect that Corn would retract all of that knowing what we all know now about Wilson’s lying.
From http://www.slate.com/id/2148555
“It is particularly satisfying that this admission comes from two of the journalists—Michael Isikoff and David Corn—
who did the most to get the story wrong in the first place and the most to keep it going long beyond the span of its
natural life.”
Just start ignoring Corn.
December 3rd, 2008 at 7:37 pmNoone was charged due to the perjury and obstruction of justice preventing the obtaining of enough evidence. The White House was in control of all the evidence. You haven’t answered why Plame was not charged with saying under oath over and over and over again that she was covert.
You really live in your own deluded little world, don’t you? Just like Dubya who said the other night that Iraq would not let the inspectors in.
December 3rd, 2008 at 7:38 pm935 recorded lies taking us into the counter-productive fiasco in Iraq.
December 3rd, 2008 at 7:39 pmKeith said “Noone was charged due to the perjury and obstruction of justice preventing the obtaining of enough evidence.”
You goof, there was no underlying crime! No one should have been charged. Libby shouldn’t be in jail.
Normally cases like Libby’s are dropped because it’s hard to find a lie when there is NO UNDERLYING CRIME. In other words “lying about what?”
In this case, politics trumped common sense.
Even you have to admit the roller coaster of attacks from the left were all wrong. That’s why the Washington Post apologized. Even they knew they went overboard.
December 3rd, 2008 at 7:50 pmDr. Hussein Matt. Now you have gone and done it. Documenting facts over spew pieces from slate shakes the world for our little trolls.
December 3rd, 2008 at 8:02 pmEven you have to admit the roller coaster of attacks from the left were all wrong. That’s why the Washington Post apologized. Even they knew they went overboard.
You have to be some special to think the Washington Post is “from the left”. LOL
December 3rd, 2008 at 8:06 pmalz,
You’ve presented sufficient proof here, but it’s quite clear most of these folks will NEVER admit they are just plain wrong.
December 3rd, 2008 at 8:38 pmAlz,
Dontcha just love the way the folks here strain so mightely to piece together whatever bits and pieces they can in a vain attempt to make something be what it clearly is not?
Kinda reminds me of all the other stuff they opine about…
December 3rd, 2008 at 8:40 pmTim:
December 3rd, 2008 at 8:42 pmHow might you explain the documentation offered up by others. Are you selective or do you just have an Alz chubby?
dbadass,
Actually, it’s quite easy. I looked up all the so-called proof offered above and it turns out it’s no proff at all.
Here’s the bottom line: Prosecutor Fitzgerald learned who actually leaked Ms. Plame’s identity BEFORE he finished his perjury trap prosecution of Scooter Libbey! He’s the one guilty of prosecutorial misconduct.
SO – if the prosecutor KNEW the true identity of the leaker, Mr. Armitage, andhe DIDN’T prosecute you have to know why!
NO CRIME WAS COMMITTED because Ms. Plame was not covered by the law in question! Simple, really.
There is simply no way to explain the prosecutor’s conduct otherwise!
December 3rd, 2008 at 8:57 pmI suppose you two morons (sorry to all real morons out there) don’t believe the Niger document on letterhead stolen from the Niger embassy in Rome was a poor forgery, either. Why was it taken out of speeches for 11 months before it was in the Jan 2003 SOTU? I suppose you think Iraq’s aluminum tubes were suitable for nuclear weapons as Dubya said in the next sentence. I suppose you think that WMD were found in Iraq and that Iraq kicked out the inspectors and would not let them back in.
dbadass, no, I meant the novel “1984″—not the actual year. :)
December 3rd, 2008 at 9:00 pmWell since you looked all this up. I assume you can post those locations where you got the evidence which disproved it all. Would you be so kind as to post those for me? Thanks and miht I also ask that you do not insult either of us by just copying and pasting your pal Alz stuff. It would be sort of embarassing. Thanks so much….. Why not just quickly copy from your history and get right back to us?
December 3rd, 2008 at 9:01 pmThere was not one leaker—there were about five. It was orchestrated leakage—as retaliation for Joe Wilson saying that Dubya lied in the SOTU.
Is there any proof that Iraq tried to obtain uranium from Africa? No, there is not. Were the aluminum tubes suitable for nuclear purposes? No. Did we know this? Yes.
December 3rd, 2008 at 9:05 pmKeith,
C’mon. Nice try, but no cigar. The source of the leak was Richard Armitage. This is undeniable.
Tell me. Why was Mr. Armitage not charged with a crime, hmmmmm?
December 3rd, 2008 at 9:19 pmYou call a jury of his peer goofs? What kind of respect for America and it’s laws does that demonstrate? Of course he should be in jail, he was found guilty of felonies.
December 3rd, 2008 at 9:25 pm“This is undeniable.”
December 3rd, 2008 at 9:29 pm—-
Damn yu are a hard case. Again now the obvious need to have to explain this definitive statement with real evidences. Why do you deliberately f uck yourself everytime?
a classic, nixonian, reptile-righty if there ever was one.
how do so many sick, repugnant pukes rise to positions of authority over groups of otherwise rational people?
December 3rd, 2008 at 9:34 pmdbadass I think he needs some remedial help. I applaud your efforts to get him to be reasonable but it seems like you are fighting a losing battle.
December 3rd, 2008 at 9:37 pmdbadass,
Get real, dude! If you care to simply look it up, you will see that what I have said is true.
Richard Armitage was the source of the leak. He did it. This fact is simply a matter of record, I didn’t make it up!!!
Now, would YOU care to explain why, after determining this to be the case, Mr. Fitzgerald did not charge him with a crime?
Can You?
December 3rd, 2008 at 11:13 pmFred, you said “You call a jury of his peer goofs? What kind of respect for America and it’s laws does that demonstrate? Of course he should be in jail, he was found guilty of felonies.”
I do respect the laws and I do respect the jury, but I’m not sure that Libby wasn’t railroaded. When a purgery case is considered, the prosecutors usually prosecute because the purgery was material in some other matter. As there was no underlying crime here (Plame wasn’t undercover), then there should not have been a purgery case.
Maybe Fitzgerald was in a corner and he needed conviction to save face? We don’t know for sure.
December 3rd, 2008 at 11:15 pmFred,
You too, mr. mouth.
Care to take a stab at my legitimate question?
December 3rd, 2008 at 11:15 pmTim Vaculik,
There is a another big question here. Fitzgerald KNEW Armitage was the source AND he knew that Plame wasn’t covert. Why did he put everyone through the ringer?
December 3rd, 2008 at 11:18 pmAlz,
Well, I think you and I know the answer to that question don’t we?
December 3rd, 2008 at 11:53 pmOh, yeah, this Bob Novak.
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/07/columnist-bob-n.html
Such a compassionate man. He must have been listening to Rush Limbaugh and though the sound of hitting that man was a Limbaugh fart.
December 4th, 2008 at 12:25 amfrom Media Matters:
“Some in the media have suggested that because Libby did not discuss former CIA operative Valerie Plame’s identity with Novak — the first journalist to report she worked at the CIA — he is not technically responsible for the leak. But such claims ignore the fact that Libby discussed Plame’s CIA employment with then-New York Times reporter Judith Miller on several occasions prior to the publication of Novak’s column naming Plame as a CIA operative.
….” In fact, news reports have indicated that the CIA believed the damage caused by the leak “was serious enough to warrant an investigation” and that the subsequent disclosure of Plame’s CIA front company likely put other agents’ work at risk. Further, Fitzgerald stated that Plame’s identity had been protected by the CIA “not just for the officer, but for the nation’s security.” And in their recently published book, Hubris, Corn and Newsweek investigative correspondent Michael Isikoff reported that, at the time of the leak, Plame was the chief of operations for the CIA’s Joint Task Force on Iraq, which “mount[ed] espionage operations to gather information on the WMD programs Iraq might have.”
http://mediamatters.org/items/200703060008
December 4th, 2008 at 1:43 amAlz, the link of the “apology” from the Wash Post was written BEFORE the trial. There is no name of the author. I’m guessing it was written by the owners, proving once again it is sometimes laughable to call the Post left of center.
The Washington Times? Really? Don’t you think it strange to believe something funded by the Moonies? GHWBush was strongly funded by the Moonies.
December 4th, 2008 at 1:48 amWe know that no action was taken against Novak by the Bush Administration, but is it possible for the incoming Obama Administration to hold him accountable for his treasonous acts?
December 4th, 2008 at 9:26 amNovak just admitted to treason. Isn’t it funny how evil can never conceive of their own destruction
December 4th, 2008 at 9:34 amOnly an evil mind would think he “Did no harm to Valerie Plame whatsoever”, no ethically inclined, no moral human being would conjure up a statement so shallow.
But then, even novack’s friends would agree, ethics, morality, or sanity never really were novack’s strong points. His entire career was made up of being a water carrier for the GOP.
Evil was his ONLY talent.
The best point to consider is novack has been rendered irrelevant, much like the GOP.
December 4th, 2008 at 12:22 pmpayback is a b*tch – especially when her name is BRAIN cancer … his family may want to get him away from interviews. Whether he is truly this ugly, vindictive, and mean spirited OR it is his dis-ease talking …
All that ugliness is a ticking time bomb in his brain.
December 4th, 2008 at 12:36 pmI’m sorry for Bob’s illness. I hope he recovers. However, in light of the facts presented that Novak admits outing a CIA operative and, in contrast to earlier reports, is no longer aghast at his own gullibility, but is unrepentant about this treasonous act… one has to wonder why he’s not receiving his treatments courtesy of the US government while incarcerated.
Oh. I forgot. Bush supporters and Bushies are rewarded for incompetence, paid handsomely for putting American lives at risk, burrowed into secure government positions, and protected from any legal accountability. It’s no wonder they so staunchly supported an Administration so obviously inept. It is inept in a way that personally benefits them, regardless of the long-term effects upon the nation. All while debating who wears the lapel pin. Nice.
December 4th, 2008 at 1:12 pmHad Novak known of Plame’s covert status and intentionally revealed her identity, he would have been subject to indictment and incarceration. For him to say he would do it again if he knew then what he knows now is to admit that he would commit a felonious act akin to treason simply out of spite. Enjoy your retirement, senile old man.
December 4th, 2008 at 1:29 pmBob Novak should be tried for treason.
December 4th, 2008 at 1:46 pmSo, he’s got someone who at least “likes him”? Who would that be, Bob? Would that be Dick Cheney? Scooter Libby? Emperor Bush? Sadman Hussien? The right-wing Supreme Court Justices? Ann Coulter? Bill-O the Clown? Lush Rimbaugh?
December 4th, 2008 at 1:52 pmIf I were liked by any of these despots and professional haters I would consider my life wasted.
Alz Says:
Duh, SHE WASN’T COVERT. She was going to Langley all the time. Her cover was blown many years earlier. Even the Russians mentioned her name in some papers.
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Are you MORONS still trying to sell this she wasnt covert idiocy? The CIA declassified her JOB SUMMARY and put it into the Congressional record. SHE WAS COVERT. That is no indisputable. Do you idiots EVER think for yourself or is repeating the Hateradio stupidity all you ever do?
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/01/us/01plame.html
The summary said that Ms. Wilson was a covert C.I.A. employee at the time of Mr. Novak’s disclosure. Between the beginning of 2002 and Ms. Wilson’s resignation from the agency at the end of 2005, the summary said, she traveled overseas “under a cover identity, sometimes in true name and sometimes in alias” at least “seven times to more than 10 countries.”
December 4th, 2008 at 3:36 pmAlz Says:
“Nevertheless, it now appears that the person most responsible for the end of Ms. Plame’s CIA career is Mr. Wilson. Mr. Wilson chose to go public with an explosive charge, claiming — falsely, as it turned out — that he had debunked reports of Iraqi uranium-shopping in Niger and that his report had circulated to senior administration officials. He ought to have expected that both those officials and journalists such as Mr. Novak would ask why a retired ambassador would have been sent on such a mission and that the answer would point to his wife. He diverted responsibility from himself and his false charges by claiming that President Bush’s closest aides had engaged in an illegal conspiracy. It’s unfortunate that so many people took him seriously.”
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My GOD you are an idiot. First it is just plain STUPID to say Wilsons article was false as it was ABSOLUTLY CORRECT ON ALL COUNTS. Your other bit of stupidity is the DUMBEST attempt at a point I have ever seen. Its WILSONs fault? How does THAT work. He was supposed to KNOW that in a fit of partisan pique the Bush administration would endanger national security just to get back at him for exposing a Bush distortion and assault of the truth by exposing his wifes identity? That is like saying its the BANKS fault it was robbed for having all that money there. WOW you are dumb. His charges werent false. There isnt the slightest bit of evidence that Iraq tried to get uranium from Niger which couldnt give him any if it wante to since its entire uranium trade is controlled by an international consortium. YOU are talling others to read up on it when you are misinformed, uninformed and plain IGNORANT of the entire matter? Look folks THIS is your brain on neocon STUPID.
December 4th, 2008 at 3:59 pmI used to like Bob Novak even though I disagree with him about almost everything. Now I can hardly stand the sight of him. What a truly evil man he is!
December 4th, 2008 at 4:21 pmI think Mr. Novak misses a huge point here. Valerie Plame was a covert CIA agent which means that after outing her as such anyone she was in touch with in other countries would be a suspected associate. In many countries this could lead to torture and even death for these people. While no physical harm came to Ms. Plame can the same be said for her contacts.
I’m still not completely clear why he has not been prosecuted. Isn’t he basically admitting to outing a covert CIA agent which is grounds for treason?
December 4th, 2008 at 5:47 pmHE IS A TRAITOR THE USA -WHO SHOULD GO TO JAIL FOR THE REST OF HIS HORRIBLE LIFE
HE IS A HATER LIKE HIS FRIEND DICK- WORSE THAN THE LAST DICK
HE IS SAD AND PATHETIC
AND IT REALLY DOESN’T MATTER WHAT HE SAYS ANYMORE
SHUN HIM
December 4th, 2008 at 7:32 pmtparkin, KASSANDRANOBODY et. al., you guys are delusional. Plame was not covert. If she was covert, then someone would have been prosecuted. Libby should never have been prosecuted because there was no underlying crime.
You guys who hate Novak, Cheney, etc, should really look at the liberal side as the liberal side has lied about this from day one.
December 4th, 2008 at 7:45 pmGawd, Robert Novak is a pathetic man. He’s not even worthy of sympathy or pity, he’s simply and utterly pathetic.
December 4th, 2008 at 9:22 pmThis piece of garbage should disappear. Noone defends him. He won’t be missed.
December 4th, 2008 at 10:07 pmTraitorous pond scum, hit-and-run felon, total waste of oxygen. Hope the cancer is terminal.
December 4th, 2008 at 10:24 pmHang that treasonous mofo.
December 5th, 2008 at 8:08 amMaybe this traitor works for Iran.
December 5th, 2008 at 9:54 amSo.. his justification is “I should do this because it bothers people who will be mean to me… after I do it.” WOW!!! (as someone else said). Wow! Delusional.
December 5th, 2008 at 9:55 amAlz says (I formatted):
“a) Plame was not covert.
b) If she was covert, then someone would have been prosecuted. c) Libby should never have been prosecuted because there was no underlying crime.”
a) is your claim. She was the most covert of covert, she was on the NOC list. THAT, NOC list is so well known as super-secret that it was the plot device of the first “Mission Impossible” movie… a list so secret… so important to our national security and the lives of operators — on par with one of the greatest security leaks of all time! Remember the whole drop-through-the-ceiling thing? That was to get the NOC list!!! It was as “suitcase nukes” were to the TV series 24.
b) You just proved your a) wrong. Someone WAS prosecuted.
c) You proved that wrong YOURSELF in b)!!!
Alz! How are you able to even tie your shoes with that kind of circular thinking going on in your head?
You can bet operatives died defending America because people leaked her name. Happy with that, you traitor?
December 5th, 2008 at 10:05 amTypical Machiavellian mindset of the extreme right-wing. They’re all about morality, but care nothing about ethics.
December 5th, 2008 at 10:40 amAnd it wasn’t just HER. The CIA front company Brewster Jennings & Associates, was blown as well, and everyone connected to it.
All this made it easier for Iran’s nuke program. Who’s side is Novak on, anyway? Who’s side is someone on who’d defend Novak? Not the United States, I can tell you that!
google it or see wikipedia:
December 5th, 2008 at 12:44 pm“Brewster Jennings & Associates was a front company set up in 1994 by the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) as a “cover” for its agents. The most famous is Valerie Plame, a “covert employee of the CIA” whose employment status was “classified” and whose then-classified covert identity was published in a syndicated newspaper column by Robert Novak on July 14, 2003 “
AllenAllen,
You said “You just proved your wrong. Someone WAS prosecuted”.
Nope. Libby was prosecuted for lying – but about what? There was no underlying crime. Plame was not covert AND Fitzgerald knew Armitage was the leaker for a long time. Regardless of everything else, if Plame was covert, Fitzgerald could have gone after Armitage for leaking it. Fitzgerald did not.
Libby’s case would normally have been dropped or would have never seen the light of day.
During this time, the liberals went from one berserk story to another crazy story trying to attack any and all Republicans. This is why the Washington Post apologized.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/08/31/AR2006083101460_pf.html
A more few comments. Will the left apologize for hyperventilating? How much more wrong could everyone on the hyperventilating, hysterical side have been? Besides the Washington Post, I don’t see many in the press apologizing for printing such garbage. I also don’t see the press complaining on how they were duped. They should apologize to us for furthering the lies.
This Plame thing is a great example of how the left operates. Take a scrap, make it huge, and use it for a long time. This is where having the press in their pocket helps them. The press never asked any critical questions. They just ran with it and we all lose. Wilson, who was a darling of the left, will be cleaning windshields at some point.
Many other stories are like this too where little critical thinking is applied: Abhu Gharib, Gitmo and holding terrorists, intelligence operations, environmental stories (“Oh, Bush is destroying the environment”), minimum wage issues, Social Security, healthcare, etc. The most sad part is: The left just exaggerates all of these issues for their own political gain and we never can have a rational discussion on what is really happening because the left isn’t serious about doing anything but acquiring power for themselves. When Conservatives say the Left has no ideas, this is what we are talking about. All the Left does is demonize an issue and make personal attacks. This whole Plame affair is a perfect example of how nasty and useless the Left is.
December 6th, 2008 at 9:25 amAllenAllen said “And it wasn’t just HER. The CIA front company Brewster Jennings & Associates, was blown as well, and everyone connected to it.”
I have a question. How angry are you at people who identified tail numbers on CIA aircraft, reported about the financial tracking tools used (SWIFT system) to track terrorist monies, or many other CLASSIFIED activities????
I doubt you have any anger towards those things.
I suspect that your anger over this Plame stuff is just a way for you to express your hatred for Novak, Bush, Cheney, Rove, etc. It’s really all a cover so you can hate.
December 6th, 2008 at 9:31 am