Comments on: New York Times cuts out crucial sentence from Feinstein quote on torture.

By: curious

curious — Fri, 05 Dec 2008 04:04:06 +0000

The New York Times is like most other corporate media in the United States. They stand for little anymore. The reason newspapers are dying is not only because of the net. But because they have lost objectivity, they are inaccurate, they cover mostly trivia. And even when they cover something important, the follow through is nearly non existent. Or as a tiny paragraph in the middle of the paper.

They pontificate and like most news and the people that speak for the various news entities, they are all mostly hot air. The media in this country is usually wrong, and way behind what the rest of us think and know. They breathe the air of politics and listen to their own rhetoric and opinions. And most often they are wrong, wrong, wrong.

The press in the US has gone from number one in the world for free and objective to number 50 and dropping. The number one press in the world in now in the Netherlands. I get most of my news from out of this country. Even things relating to this country.

Feinstein is my Senator. In California she is called the female Joe Liberman. I cannot bear her. It difficult to misquote her, but in this case they did.

By: Bilbo Hussein Baggins

Bilbo Hussein Baggins — Thu, 04 Dec 2008 21:09:51 +0000

Now why in hell would the New York Times do something so deceptive. They had started to sound rather fair and balanced in the last couple of years. Are they going back to Judith Miller land?

By: MapleStreet

MapleStreet — Thu, 04 Dec 2008 20:34:06 +0000

Quoting out of context – kind of like a lot of folks do from the Bible.

And if you remove the 3rd, 5th and 6th letters from the title, the Reader’s Digest is Really shown to be the Red’s Digest. –Col. Flagg on M*A*S*H

By: mk3872

mk3872 — Thu, 04 Dec 2008 19:08:14 +0000

Feinstein is a veteran politician and should have known better than to put the REAL meaning of her statement to the press at end of a conjunction! The press cannot keep their attention for that long.

I know it sounds petty. But one must NOT expect anything more than that sort of treatment from the press. They are lazy and looking for any angle to show drama or drive their narrative.

Shame on her AND the NYT.

By: Wayne

Wayne — Thu, 04 Dec 2008 18:37:48 +0000

Keith H. Says:

I must have missed something along the line.
Wasn’t torture already ‘effectively banned’ by law along time ago ?

A hundred years ago we prosecuted some of our own soldiers for waterboarding prisoners in the Philippines.
We tried and convicted a Japanese Officer for waterboarding our soldiers after WW2.

I would say the legal precedent has already been set and the argument over whether or not waterboarding is illegal and a war crime is just plain stupid. It has been illegal well over a hundred years in this country.

By: Leftside Annie

Leftside Annie — Thu, 04 Dec 2008 18:24:51 +0000

Damn that librul media!!!!

By: Bushie

Bushie — Thu, 04 Dec 2008 18:11:22 +0000

DiFink, as Zimone points out, is the problem, not the solution. Christ on a cross, two of the worst Senators in our times, as chairs of the most important committees, Lieberman on Homeland Security (no hearings or oversight) and DiFink on Intel (exacerbated the problems we’re now facing in the world). The inmates are in charge of the asylum.

By: hanshiro

hanshiro — Thu, 04 Dec 2008 17:57:49 +0000

When you’re ranked #36 for press freedom, you don’t continue to provide examples for why you should’ve ranked higher…

The US media is a corporate joke that will kill the internet any way they can.

By: Zimzone

Zimzone — Thu, 04 Dec 2008 17:38:04 +0000

This from the same woman who supported Mukasey, who has repeatedly ignored or refused to investigate torturers?

Dianne, quit, you’re torturing me!

By: 00mpp00

00mpp00 — Thu, 04 Dec 2008 17:35:41 +0000

Can someone tell me why the Right constantly rags on the NYT as “liberal”? Far from it…

http://www.sunstateactivist.org/ssablog/

By: Dumb Fox the Average Golfer

Dumb Fox the Average Golfer — Thu, 04 Dec 2008 17:31:35 +0000

Keith H. Says:

I must have missed something along the line.
Wasn’t torture already ‘effectively banned’ by law along time ago ?

It was until King George decided he was above the law.

By: Dumb Fox the Average Golfer

Dumb Fox the Average Golfer — Thu, 04 Dec 2008 17:20:31 +0000

A great example of when “All the news that’s fit to print” becomes “Fair and balanced”.

By: normalasf

normalasf — Thu, 04 Dec 2008 17:19:14 +0000

Is the NYT trying to tempt Murdoch into buying them?

By: Buckie Boy

Buckie Boy — Thu, 04 Dec 2008 17:18:54 +0000

Oh, that LIBERAL MEDIA rag did that…Karl Rove was helping edit the piece, it seems.

By: Keith H.

Keith H. — Thu, 04 Dec 2008 17:18:46 +0000

I must have missed something along the line.
Wasn’t torture already ‘effectively banned’ by law along time ago ?

By: The Republic of Stupidity

The Republic of Stupidity — Thu, 04 Dec 2008 17:17:34 +0000

DNFP Says:

How did I wake up in a country where we have to debate the nature of torture as a “right” or “wrong”?
____________

Funny, innit? The wingnuttery are always decrying the “moral relativism” of libruls but now that the thumbscrew is on the the other hand, we somehow all need to keep an open mind and entertain the possibility that torture really isn’t torture as long as we do it, and for the right reasons too.

Charming… but Heaven forbid you should say “Happy Holidays” instead of…

By: unbelievable

unbelievable — Thu, 04 Dec 2008 17:14:46 +0000

cannot win

By: unbelievable

unbelievable — Thu, 04 Dec 2008 17:13:14 +0000

Conservatives can win with the truth.

Apparently, they also can’t sell newspapers with it either…

By: DNFP

DNFP — Thu, 04 Dec 2008 17:12:53 +0000

How did I wake up in a country where we have to debate the nature of torture as a “right” or “wrong”?

By: alphainfinityomega

alphainfinityomega — Thu, 04 Dec 2008 17:11:10 +0000

What, is Judy Miller an editor now?

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