Yesterday on Fox News, Bill O’Reilly and Karl Rove went on a tirade against the media for hyping the struggling state of the economy. They claimed that it’s not as bad as reports are making it out to be, and journalists are overstating the case in order to help President-elect Barack Obama:
O’REILLY: All right, so you are agreeing with me then that there is a conscious effort on the part of The New York Times and other liberal media to basically paint as drastic a picture as possible, so that when Barack Obama takes office that anything is better than what we have now?
ROVE: Yes.
Watch it:
The bad economy is not a fiction created by journalists. Last week, the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) reported that employers slashed 533,000 jobs in November, “much higher than the 320,000 economists forecast.” Presenting his report to Congress, BLS commission Keith Hall said that it was “maybe one of the worst jobs reports the Bureau of Labor Statistics has ever produced” in its 124-year history”:
For years, in fact, the Bush administration has tried Rove and O’Reilly’s strategy of insisting that nothing is wrong. Although the United States has been in a recession since December 2007, the Bush administration has continued to insist that the economy was strong. The result? A government unprepared to deal with “the worst financial crisis since the Great Depression.”
Transcript:
O’REILLY: OK, now the economy. Do you agree with me that the media is not-the economy, but Afghanistan and Iraq and every other problem the United States has spinning as negative as possible now so that they can buy Barack Obama some time and set up a thing where if anything goes right after he becomes president, they can jump on it.
ROVE: Yes.
O’REILLY: And then they can blame everything on Bush for quite a long period of time?
ROVE: You know, it’s interesting to me, this question of proportionality and consistency. I wanted to take you and your viewers back to March of 2000 when the stock market peaked out. We had a 38 percent decline in the Dow Jones. We had a 50 percent decline in the S P 500. And we had a 78 percent decline in the Nasdaq before the markets bottomed out.
Now, I don’t remember The New York Times or the national or The Washington Post or some of these national news organizations treating the precipitous decline in the markets under Clinton with the scare words that they’re using today. Similarly look, and I don’t want to diminish the challenges we face, particularly when it comes to unemployment. If you don’t have a job, it’s 100% unemployment rate for you. But the unemployment rate today was at certain times during Clinton and in most of Carter time in office higher. And, yet, we don’t see the similar scare tactics and the similar phrases and words out of the n ational media about these Democrats as we hear about the current situation.
O’REILLY: All right, so you are agreeing with me then that there is a conscious effort on the part of The New York Times and other liberal media to basically paint as drastic a picture as possible, so that when Barack Obama takes office that anything is better than what we have now?
ROVE: Yes. And watch their words when they describe the steps that he wants to take. I noticed again this past weekend, he described this enormous program of spending on infrastructure, on roads and highways and improvements in our infrastructure. And watch how they treat this when he comes into office if he actually pursues this package. And you’ll see very few of them raising serious questions about what kind of stimulative effect it really is going to have, because what we do know is on these kind of big projects, only one out of every four dollars that’s appropriated for them gets spent in the first year. The rest of it gets spent in the out year. So these are not going to have an immediate impact. And let’s see how tough they treat him on this and how much they hold him up to scrutiny.
O’REILLY: Now you know how that’s going to come down, Mr. Rove.
ROVE: We can always hope. We can always.
O’REILLY: Well, see I know hope. All I want is an honest press. I’m not hoping one way or the other.
Sure because the huge financial meltdown and 800billion dollar bailout should have been a dirty little secret kept from the American people so they media would not seem biased. Do these morons even TRY to make up believable Bullshit anymore or do they just toss out whatever idiocy floats to the top of that sump of a sewer in their heads? I guess they know their rightwing base will swallow anything no matter how ridiculous and logic free as long as it puts the left in a bad light. This is proof positive though that at Fox they have no capacity for shame.
December 9th, 2008 at 5:54 pmRove and O'Lilie, to peas in a pod with one fallofa....Soon to be non relevent to everything.....Blessings
December 9th, 2008 at 5:57 pmShorter Rove & O'Reilly: We have plenty of money.
December 9th, 2008 at 5:57 pmMillionaires telling the rest of us to nevermind the economic collapse occuring all around us. As long as the Roves and O'reilly's of the world get theirs, the rest of us can drop dead. Why are these people still on my TeeVee? Rove was wrong at all times and on all points. O'Reilly is so continually wrong, it is amazing he is allowed into the building where he works. The dumbing down of the American electorate continues.
December 9th, 2008 at 5:58 pmO'Really and Rove--the two deserve one another--this economy tanked on GWB's watch and it is a republican meltdown--this whole mess started 5 or 6 years ago and they knew the day would come when all hell would break loose--ironically, it happened while Bush and crew are still in office.
I am now convinced more than ever that O'Really is really stupid as is his buddy Rove--and yes, they are both evil.
December 9th, 2008 at 5:58 pmThey're out of their gourds, stung by electoral humiliation, the implosion of their party, the world's celebration at their demise, the cataclysmic failure of everything they ever believed and worked for, etc. The poor tortured devils--who still think they;re brilliant--have absolutely no comprehension of what has happened to them. They're talking out of their heads--almost literally insane--blithering, blathering, foaming, howling execrations like dogs. It's like a Christmas gift from God.
December 9th, 2008 at 6:01 pmThere is only one remaining contextr in which I would care ever again to see the nemes of Brillo and Rover juxtaposed: "Bodies of O'Reilly and Rove Found Together" with the sub-head: "Naked Carcasses Found in Intimate Embrace."
December 9th, 2008 at 6:03 pmIs it possible that even the FoxNews audience is stupid enough to believe this crap? Telling them that the foreclosure notice and their lost job is a figment of the "liberal media" isn't going to fly very well, even in wingnutland.
December 9th, 2008 at 6:04 pm# 8
One thing to consider in your question about if the viewers of Fixed Noise are stupid enough to believe this. Remember that about 30 percent of the American public uses the Fixed Noise Channel as its primary news source. Also, look at Chimpy's approval ratings for the last year or so. They always seem to hover around 30 percent. Seems awfully telling to me.
December 9th, 2008 at 6:09 pmHannity and Limbaugh are already using the term the "Obama Recession." These people have no ability to take responsibility when things don't go well.
December 9th, 2008 at 6:12 pmAs usual, rather than complain that the economy is "cratering", they complain that the media is reporting the fact that the economy is cratering. This is typical of right-wing thinkers: Don't blame the person or persons responsible for the mess we're hearing about in the media, blame the media for reporting the mess in the first place.
December 9th, 2008 at 6:14 pmHoly crap - whatever those boys are smokin' must be goooooood shit!!
December 9th, 2008 at 6:18 pmShorter Rove&Biley "Whass Akkkountabilitee?
December 9th, 2008 at 6:24 pmIt's true! Reality DOES have a liberal bias!
December 9th, 2008 at 6:26 pmThe air-headed league rides on.
December 9th, 2008 at 6:31 pmWell iif rove and o'reilly said it then it must be so........full of shit
December 9th, 2008 at 6:34 pmIn my country, we put criminals in jail. Not on TV.
December 9th, 2008 at 6:37 pmAnother lying liar telling lies...
And in the mainstream media...
Eventually, we will need to talk about more about these distractions because folks like o'lie-ly and kkkarl are a dime a dozen. If it weren't them, it would be someone else.
I think most here accept that this type of talk is systematically part of our media structure - 5 global corporations control 80 percent or more of what people listen to or watch.
Some here even see the corporate media structure as part of a military-industrial-media complex, realizing that you cannot justify military interventions and bloated budgets without "catapulting the propaganda."
How many are willing to talk about organized peaceful action? Obviously a much smaller number.
I just pray for the day when we are talking about the system that brings us the lying liars and not the folks that talk in front of the cameras.
December 9th, 2008 at 6:38 pmWhich rat turd, hoy polloi university will be the one to automatically give tenure to Rove to teach advanced courses in revisionist history?
Billo seems to love being the bin Laden of the phony outrage cabals that terrorize everyone but the companies and entities that should have to share some brunt of any real outrage.
December 9th, 2008 at 6:44 pmSo chimpy f-u the economy so President-Elect Obama could win?
And aig, sterns, automakers, seedy business practices and thousands of layoff employees are helping President-Elect Obama?
GTFOOH
December 9th, 2008 at 7:05 pmonly total assclowns such as rove and o reilly could make such a statement with a straight face and only their assclown viewers could believe it.
December 9th, 2008 at 7:36 pmHopefully when the riots start, they will hang Rove and The Pervert Sexual Predator O'LIElly.
December 9th, 2008 at 7:48 pmNo Billo and Rove. The problem is that the MSM is no longer covering your a$$. For the first time in a very long time they are actually reporting the news.
December 9th, 2008 at 8:08 pmLOL My god. These people have NO idea how stupid they look to 80% of the population. I mean the Freeper Hate Site loves them of course, but couple this ignorance with the Obama birth certificate law suits and these people will be gone within a decade.
December 9th, 2008 at 8:14 pmI'd give that 50% AT BEST. If 80% of them were hated, we would be an entirely different country.
December 9th, 2008 at 8:19 pmyou know - pay no attention to those 500,000+ people who lost their jobs in November alone - it's a liberal plot to ruin up our grand plan.
December 9th, 2008 at 8:34 pm....and and and the sky is falling,..and and there are terrrus on every street corner..CLICK.
December 9th, 2008 at 9:23 pmWell LushInterior at #14, I live, work full-time for pay (so does hubby) and in our "spare time" we also own a small business in rural America. I shop entirely locally and also listen to many of the regulars in our small business.
"Business is 'slightly' down"? OMG, we're all just barely able to pay utilities let alone bills for inventory. Hubby & I just took out another loan just to keep from drowning ourselves and pay our suppliers who, by the way, are also small businesses.
Glad you reside in la-la land. Those of us who are reality based know better.
December 9th, 2008 at 9:24 pmBreaking News: O'Reilly and Rove agree that W is the greatest ManGod since the earth began 6,000 years ago.
December 9th, 2008 at 9:38 pmBTW, nice job George! Kudos too to your merry pack of thieves.
December 9th, 2008 at 10:00 pmI guess someone can't get out of their bubble. After all, the richest 1% of Americans are doing extremely well...so that must mean in Wingnuttia, ALL Americans are doing well, or at least the ones that matter...
December 10th, 2008 at 4:46 amHow would someone know about the current state of the economy while they're enjoying their brokered deal with the Devil?
Load of shit.
December 10th, 2008 at 8:50 amI think O'Reilly actually believes the things he says. That's scary.
December 10th, 2008 at 8:56 amWell if **I** had a 5-year contract for $ 50 mill a year (or whatever they make), I might have a rosier picture too.
In fact, Mr. O'Reilley, if you want me to agree that the economy is going good, just sign a contract with me that you will give me 1/4 of your salary for the next 10 years.
December 10th, 2008 at 12:16 pmThe Right's desperate attempt to link Obama to (I' Gov) Blagojevich is the perfect example of them doing THE EXACT OPPOSITE.
While they claim the "Liberal Media" is trying to preempt criticism of Obama on the economy, Fox and the Righties are trying to preemptively derail Obama's presidency by trying to suggest he has "links to criminals" before it even begins.
December 10th, 2008 at 3:50 pmYou've got to be kidding me. Fox plays up the economic crisis as much as any of the media players, if not more. O'Reilly is in never, neverland.
December 10th, 2008 at 7:46 pmNOW we'll see the tinfoil hats come out. Cue the black helicopters!
December 11th, 2008 at 12:57 amorielly and rove are 100% blockheads with their heads stuck in each other's butt... jake rockwood. tn
January 2nd, 2009 at 4:59 pmOreilly and Rove are two of the biggest asshats on planet earth. Do they really think if the media didn't talk about the recession that we'd think it wasn't happening. HELLOOOOO!
January 5th, 2009 at 9:39 amWe're not all Republicans out here! Some of us actually think for ourselves.
Go GOOPers, GO!
Keep right on talking about Magic Negroes, and how great the economy is doing!
Woo hoo! America is gonna seriously love this!
January 6th, 2009 at 1:11 pmShould we recognize an Axis of Stupidity and Sour Grapes? O'Reilly for president; Rove for veep; membership to be composed of bigots, sore losers, racists, spin-docs, televangelists, ostrich-heads, snake-oil sellers, Ponzi-pushers, the mentally constipated, and leading members of the military-industrial covens?
January 7th, 2009 at 6:31 pmkarl rove...
that guy is also heavily invested in enron..
check out "enron"
on bbc. com
and his name is right up there with some of those ...people.
and if karl rove says he didnt know anything about a financial crisis in the U.S.?
baloney..check out this one also...
http://www.thestreet.com/story/10372963/1/bear-stearns-fat-cats-cashed-out-at-the-top.html
January 11th, 2009 at 3:12 amregarding karl rove and enron..
check out this story from bbcnews.com:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/1758345.stm
January 11th, 2009 at 3:40 amright here is the whole list of them,
leading to enron scandal..
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/static/in_depth/business/2002/enron/14.stm
January 11th, 2009 at 3:46 ameveryone should view the zeigiest movement movie and send it to everyone they know. then we will understand the ultimate plan is total enslavement of Americans.
January 12th, 2009 at 8:25 amAll I see is O'Reilly and Rove spinning the economic news as being horrible under Bush. Are they not aware that they are both members of the MSM? By bringing it up, they're doing what they're whining about.
January 12th, 2009 at 9:40 pmObama needs the bad economy in order to scare folks into letting him take over banks and increase government. Socialism can never succeed until the government gets total control and ruins everything
January 16th, 2009 at 7:47 pmthese two need to lie down on a couch with a therapist behind them for a long, long time
January 17th, 2009 at 4:28 pmRUSH,O'RIELY, AND SEAN are haters and they need to shut-up!! with all the nonsense..OBAMA won fair and square unlike Bush who cheated and then F***ked up the whole world not just America but the Whole World has suffered... We have OBAMA now and he has INTEGRITY of himself and for the American people...He's president!!!!!!! oooh ray for PRESIDENT OBAMA. At least we don't have to look at Mccain's old ass with his little ass arms my friend....
January 20th, 2009 at 3:42 pmquit whining cry babies....
January 20th, 2009 at 3:44 pmI don't see what you guys find so offensive by this piece. I mean use some common sense if you're guy gets in office in a time when everything is in TOTAL disarray don't you want to buy him as much time as possible to right the boat? I believe this is going to take YEARS to fix, and I know Americans have a very very very short attention span when they are hurting. The major media according to every single poll taken to date are made up of employees that are a vast majority democrat. So it goes if you use reason that a vast majority of these voted for Obama and want him (as I do) to succeed. They want to keep the stink on Bush for as long as they can to buy him time... why is this so hard to understand? And why for God's sake is this so offensive to you guys?
January 20th, 2009 at 4:10 pmWow everyone who doesn't share my opinion shut up? Oh and make fun of the guys arms who had them broken repeatedly for years while a POW. Very classy dude.
January 20th, 2009 at 4:12 pmAbsolute nonsense. This makes me laugh! Holy conspiracy freaks.
January 22nd, 2009 at 8:26 pmLOL
What's more frightening than the repubs conspiracy theories
[Rush's included] is that their negative "campaign" against the dems has already begun for 2012!
Be prepared for more and worse scenarios on Fox and Rush - they are just warming up my friends.
If it gets so out of control [and probably will]
January 24th, 2009 at 4:03 pmI for one am going to make note of Fox and Rush commercials and refuse to buy their products.
Karl must be busy getting ready to appear and testify under oath for Conyers hearing. No crossing your fingers, Karl.
January 28th, 2009 at 9:23 pm