Last night, the Senate failed to approve the auto rescue package, voting 52-35 in favor of proceeding on the bill — just eight short of the 60 votes that were needed. Over on the Wonk Room, Dan Weiss takes a look at the 20 senators who voted for the Wall Street bailout but voted against the auto rescue last night (as well as the 10 others who skipped the vote last night, but voted for the financial bailout):
| Yes to TARP, No to auto | Yes to TARP, Absent for auto |
| Sen. Max Baucus (D-MT) Sen. Robert Bennett (R-UT) Sen. Richard Burr (R-NC) Sen. Saxby Chambliss (R-GA) Sen. Tom Coburn (R-OK) Sen. Norm Coleman (R-MN) Sen. Bob Corker (R-TN) Sen. John Ensign (R-NV) Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-IA) Sen. Judd Gregg (R-NH) Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-UT) Sen. Kay Hutchison (R-TX) Sen. John Isakson (R-GA) Sen. Jon Kyl (R-AZ) Sen. Blanche Lincoln (D-AR) Sen. Mel Martinez (R-FL) Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) Sen. Mitch McConnell (R-KY) Sen. Lisa Murkowski (R-AK) Sen. John Thune (R-SD) |
Sen. Lamar Alexander (R-TN) Sen. Joe Biden (D-DE) Sen. John Cornyn (R-TX) Sen. Larry Craig (R-ID) Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) Sen. Chuck Hagel (R-NE) Sen. John Kerry (D-MA) Sen. Gordon Smith (R-OR) Sen.Ted Stevens (R-AK) Sen. John Sununu (R-NH) |
Biden was tending to transition duties, while Kerry was in Poznan, Poland, participating in U.N. climate change talks. Alexander was home recovering from surgery. Why did these other Senators feel auto workers weren’t as deserving as Wall Street? We’d like to know. If you see statements from them, please let us know by email or in the comments section.
Clearly the problem with government is that it still has too many Republicans in it. We must rectify this situation as soon as possible.
December 12th, 2008 at 4:08 pmSen. Norm Coleman (R-MN)
Yes to sugar daddy, No to auto
December 12th, 2008 at 4:09 pmThey have their priorities, white collar bailout “Good”, blue collar bailout “Bad”.
Depression, where they can buy up everything cheap, “Good”.
Average Joe not living in a cardboard box “Bad”.
Screw these idiots.
December 12th, 2008 at 4:09 pmMcCain to Detroit: Drop dead, my friends
December 12th, 2008 at 4:09 pmAbsent:
Sen. Larry Craig (R-ID)
Stuck in a Minnesota airport toilet stall?
Or too busy trying to get the Supreme Court to declare him constitutionally Not Gay in the Slightest?
Sen.Ted Stevens (R-AK)
December 12th, 2008 at 4:11 pmPacking his bags for prison?
Sen. Richard Burr (R-NC)
That’s just great. I’m moving down to NC soon and right after seeing Va.’s last senate seat blue I’ll have another wingnut to look forward to. The work is never done.
December 12th, 2008 at 4:14 pmI’ll give some credit to John Kerry here – I’d much rather have our Senators saving the planet than saving one of the industries that’s killing the planet.
December 12th, 2008 at 4:15 pmWhen the Bush White House has to be a leader for the Senate Republicans, we now know how much those Senate neocons have f-ed up.
But I’m sure Toyota, Nissan, etc. will have big “gifts” ready for those fat cat Senators.
December 12th, 2008 at 4:16 pmThe left side is a rogue’s gallery if ever there was one.
December 12th, 2008 at 4:16 pmTappy McWideStance was cruising Craig’s list…
December 12th, 2008 at 4:18 pmWonder of wonders, one of my two Republican senators actually voted in favor of the auto companies. Of course, that was Dole — and she may be losing her tendency to march in lockstep now that she’s a lame duck.
Richard Burr, however, is one of the 20. And this doesn’t surprise me. He’s very typical of the “big business good, unions bad” mentality.
December 12th, 2008 at 4:21 pmIt appears (with the possible exception of McConnell from KY) that all the Yes votes for rich white guys and No for the blue collar middle class where Senators NOT from the rust belt.
December 12th, 2008 at 4:22 pmWhy is that?
Maybe because rich white guys who failed miserably at their businesses deserve to get a second chance, but rich white guys who failed miserably at their businesses anchored by the middle class don’t?
But, blame the UAW!
Destroy the middle class!
Say goodbye to the state of Michigan (and possibly Ohio)!
Mucking forons!
Simple principle of Republican philosophy: blue collar union workers are overpaid. Bankers, including the rocket scientists at the investment banks who thought up these great new financial weapons of mass destruction that crippled the global financial system are not. Openly campaigning for thousands of American workers to take a pay cut and risking the jobs of millions of others sure is an interesting political strategy.
December 12th, 2008 at 4:26 pmThere’s a surprise, McCain f-ing up and then going on Letterman.
December 12th, 2008 at 4:27 pmMcWars Says
December 12th, 2008 at 4:14 pm
That’s just great. I’m moving down to NC soon and right after seeing Va.’s last senate seat blue I’ll have another wingnut to look forward to. The work is never done.
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Despair not. Remember that it wasn’t too long ago that this was the land of Jesse Helms. He’s gone now. One of our two Republican senators (Elizabeth Dole) was just defeated for re-election. The other one (Richard Burr) is up for re-election in 2010, but is considered vulnerable in that he is still in his first term. Our state went blue for Obama last month. And we have a Democratic Governor, Lt. Governor, Secretary of State, Attorney General, State Treasurer — in fact, most of the state government offices are held by Dems (and not all blue dogs, either!)
We look forward to you coming down here and voting against Burr with us.
December 12th, 2008 at 4:27 pmVoting “No” from the Blue side, Dirty Harry Reid and Mad Max Baucus. The Blue corporacrats show their true color.
December 12th, 2008 at 4:28 pmstateofthedivision Says:
Voting “No” from the Blue side, Dirty Harry Reid and Mad Max Baucus. The Blue corporacrats show their true color.
“Dirty Harry” isn’t listed. Or do you have a different list than the one provided?
December 12th, 2008 at 4:35 pmNo no no no no! You do NOT need 60 votes to pass something in the senate. If they’re going to fillibuster MAKE THEM ACTUALLY FILLIBUSTER. This way they only pull that card on things they REALLY EFFIN CARE ABOUT and you can actually get things done.
The Senate leadership is filled with pathetic pansies.
December 12th, 2008 at 4:38 pmAh, out of 9,000,000 (approx.) NC residents, Missmolly has me anticipating the move. Looking at the big picture Miss molly provided, NC is not that different from VA — both states are a sea of red with blue spots keeping them out of wingnut territory (Research Triangle for NC, Richmond and Washington D.C. suburbs for Va.). Not to mention, John Edwards was once Senator (and probably would have coasted to a second term).
I’ll be moving to Greenville, Miss Molly, which voted light blue for Obama. In fact, the county I live now voted light red for McCain — I lost my voting booth by 2%.
Thanks for being so welcoming.
December 12th, 2008 at 4:38 pmKy. Sen. Bunning, ex-Tiger, snubbed for autos vote
Ky. Sen. Bunning, ex-Tigers pitching great, gets booted from Detroit-area fair for autos vote
Jim Bunning was the toast of Detroit when he threw a no-hitter for the Tigers in 1958.
Now, after opposing a federal bailout for the auto industry, the Republican senator from Kentucky can’t even get a gig signing autographs at a suburban sports-card show.
Bunning was to appear Sunday at the Gibraltar Trade Center in Taylor. Fans would have paid $35 for Bunning to sign a baseball and $55 to sign a bat.
December 12th, 2008 at 4:38 pmThis just seems so out of character for the Republicans.
December 12th, 2008 at 4:40 pmI was particularly outraged with Senator Grassley of Iowa. I saw a clip on MSNBC of him in the Well of the Senate last night with props no less–a blow-up photo of the cartoon version of the “Joker” of the Batman comics, showing the Joker having gobs of cash in both fists and a evil, sinister expression. He was railing about the bailout and how greedy the auto industry and the unions were. He is becoming extremely vulnerable here in Iowa, he is up for reelection in 2010. His behavior on this issue should be a real wake-up call to the voters of Iowa – he is not for the worker, the middle class. Unions are big in Iowa and his actions will strike them at the core. I ask everyone to write Senator Grassley and let him know that he is on the wrong side of this issue. We have had layoffs here in Iowa in auto supplier companies employing UAW workers. Shame on him for voting with those wingnuts in the pocket of union busters and foreign companies. Where is his loyalty to the workers of Iowa, and the Midwest? If the auto industry goes down, we ALL loose.
December 12th, 2008 at 4:41 pmI’m not very bright, so please Senators, enlighten me.
December 12th, 2008 at 4:49 pmIf my daughter makes a bad decision, I reward her?
If her twin brother makes the same bad decision, why would I then punish him?
I’m not quite following – is this news post directed simply at the senators for being lazy and not showing up? I’m going to assume that’s what it is, rather than whether people voted “yes” or “no” on the auto bailout, since I don’t necessarily agree a bailout of the auto industry is an answer, and thinkprogress shouldn’t be chastising people on an iffy issue like this one as well.
December 12th, 2008 at 4:49 pmbut app203,
December 12th, 2008 at 4:52 pmwhy the bailout for Wall Street?
and not the Auto Industry?
(see my above post #23)
Oh, John McCain, where are you? We hardly see you anymore.
December 12th, 2008 at 4:55 pmAnd how many Senators of both parties would have voted ‘no’ for a big check for Israel…
December 12th, 2008 at 4:58 pmLeft off this list is Tester, Democrat of Montana.
December 12th, 2008 at 5:00 pmTalking Points Memo had a good article on the new civil war, with southern senators such as Bob Corker (R-TN) and Mitch McConnell (R-KY) voting no to protect their own (largely Japanese) auto industry.
December 12th, 2008 at 5:01 pmLet’s list all the Senators and Representatives that voted NO for both! We can pin medals on them. And maybe send them a nice fruit basket or something.
December 12th, 2008 at 5:05 pmMcWars Says
December 12th, 2008 at 4:38 pm
I’ll be moving to Greenville, Miss Molly, which voted light blue for Obama. In fact, the county I live now voted light red for McCain — I lost my voting booth by 2%.
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Greenville, huh? I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but your Congressman is a Republican — Walter Jones. That’s right. The “freedom fries” guy.
However, even though he’s a Republican, he’s not exactly a lockstepper. He’s backed off the freedom fries thing and is now a staunch advocate of getting us out of Iraq. He’s one of only three GOP Congresspeople who voted to hold Miers and Bolten in contempt, and he has sided with the Dems on a number of issues, including raising the minimum wage. He’s actually more Libertarian than Republican.
December 12th, 2008 at 5:06 pmBarfly, click on the 52-35 vote link in the first sentence of the piece. Then look for Harry Reid (D-NV).
December 12th, 2008 at 5:08 pmPay to play isn’t the only game being played. Look the Auto Industry will get the money but by play the game of you can’t have it and Bush steps in to save the day is the way this will play out. It’s old school Politics when you have a current number of friends block a bill knowing once the President is allowed to save the day and rebuild his reputation in the public eye. Check out how much money the Auto Makers have given to Republican candidates. Now Bush will be made to look good for his leagcy and Americans were fooled again. It’s all a game where taxpayers money is the chips their playing with. Watch as this movie is a rerun
December 12th, 2008 at 5:11 pmstateofthedivision Says:
Barfly, click on the 52-35 vote link in the first sentence of the piece. Then look for Harry Reid (D-NV).
There’s a reason he did that; it’s so he can bring the bill up under a “motion to reconsider.” The usual way this happens if they can’t reach the 60-vote threshold.
December 12th, 2008 at 5:12 pmThe Sunlight Foundation has several pieces analyzing the votes. By and large, those in congress who represent states or districts with non-unionized autoworkers (working for Toyota, Nissan, Honda, VW, etc.) were more likely to vote against the bailout, regardless of political affiliation, and those who received more campaign money from the US auto industry (including UAW) were more likely to vote for it. See these posts.
December 12th, 2008 at 5:16 pmmisshusseinmolly Says:
Greenville, huh? I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but your Congressman is a Republican — Walter Jones. That’s right. The “freedom fries” guy.
Even better. I can recognize him over my current congressman (who I voted against), Rob Wittman (R). I don’t know much about Wittman, but at least I know Jones has a conscience. Thanks very much for the orientation.
December 12th, 2008 at 5:19 pmThanks Impeach Cheney. I was unaware of that Senate trick.
December 12th, 2008 at 5:21 pmThe Wall Street paper pushers get their wishes granted, with little objection…the mainstreet auto workers get the shaft.
December 12th, 2008 at 5:21 pmImpeach Cheney, Tester voted no on both bailouts. The vote on the Wall Street bailout is below for those interested in comparing:
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=110&session=2&vote=00213
December 12th, 2008 at 5:22 pmAlejandro Says:
Let’s list all the Senators and Representatives that voted NO for both! We can pin medals on them. And maybe send them a nice fruit basket or something.
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But that would mean we’d have to give something to that varnished turd that “represents” us here in MN-6.
December 12th, 2008 at 5:23 pmNay! The problem with this country is that it still has residual Republicans in it. If we rectify this situation, the rest will resolve itself.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSGLzStgujM
December 12th, 2008 at 5:34 pmIt is obvious who are the Senators are siding with, the bankers and not the workers.
December 12th, 2008 at 6:07 pmThe money auto industry wanted was very small compared to what the bankers received from Treaury Secretary Paulson.
The Senators who opposed giving much smaller money to auto industry, voted without hesitancy to give hundreds of billions of taxpayers money to bankers.
That shows where their interests are.
But people will not forget this..and in coming elections the senators who voted against workers must be beaten.
It’s all part of the GOP “War on the American Worker” started during the Reagan administration. The Repugs want to bring back the slave economy, even if it destroys the US, and they want to be the slave owners. In their dim little minds, American workers have no rights.
December 12th, 2008 at 6:32 pmIt’s all about themselves – country be damned.
December 12th, 2008 at 6:44 pmUnion busting is the goal – that means he future workplace will resemble the workplaces of a hundred years ago.
We all owe the 40 hour work week, paid vacations, workplace safety, breaktime, sick days to unions and their support of the working public.
Today, we take these things for granted, with fewer factory jobs and more jobs at desks, so they don’t seem as important to some… for now.
The GOP slugs who denied this aid to mfg. are looking out for their own constituencies only – (their states have foreign mfr. factories)- but they banded together to defeat this, to falsely blame union demands, and when Bush finally gives them the left over funds from the Wall Street bailout, they will effectively make him seem a hero.
Pardon me while I throw up at that thought.
Obama:
December 12th, 2008 at 6:49 pmI am disappointed that the Senate could not reach agreement on a short-term plan for the auto industry. I share the frustration of so many about the decades of mismanagement in this industry that has helped deliver the current crisis. . .But I also know that millions of American jobs rely directly or indirectly on a viable auto industry, and that the beginnings of reform are at hand. The revival of our economy as a whole should not be a partisan issue. . . My hope is that the Administration and the Congress will still find a way to give the industry the temporary assistance it needs while demanding the long-term restructuring that is absolutely required.
This too is no surprise. This has always been about breaking the unions. Reagan had begun the process when one of his first acts was to destroy the air controllers union. All they wanted was better equipment. Folks this is nothing less then a class war. It has been in effect for the last twenty years. And those lousy trade agreements that Clinton signed off on were part of this same thing.
For instance in our trade agreement with South Korea, they are allowed to sell 600,000 cars a year in the US. We on the other hand are limited to 5,000 car a year in South Korea. This unfair trade balance is not unusual. It is the norm. Consistently our workers here are short changed in trade agreements that do not favor our own workers. They favor other countries. We are the only country that allows trade agreements in favor of others instead of our own.
Bush wants the trade agreement passed with Columbia. Columbia which is one of the worst offender to their own people wanting to start a union. Dozen of union organizers have been killed in Columbia in trying to get fair working conditions or salaries.
This is a class war. Republicans are not only trying to destroy unions for obvious reasons. Without a union, corporations are free to pay almost nothing. They are free to as before unions to impose bad working conditions and no health benefits. This is what the Republicans want. It is their wet dream. Billions for corporations and none for the worker.
The destruction of the middle class is the reason for such policies. The middle class vote and usually for policies that favor the poor and middle class. The destruction of the automobile manufacturers is part and parcel of this plan. They want to take us back to the corporate golden age. Where there were two classes. Rich and Poor.
And here is the most basic reason. The poor are usually too tired, to busy trying to survive. And mostly too impoverished to think about voting. And this is the whole idea. It was not till this election when so many millions of blacks, latinos etc. came out in droves to vote for change. Now these Republican senators who vote to let millions of Americans go under are trying to kill off what is left of the middle class,
These selfish, anti-Americans that answer to nothing but the wealthy of their constituents. They want a country of poor, uneducated underclass to man their factories, if there are any left. To work in fast food, to expect nothing much in the way of a better life.
And these southern Senators with foreign car manufacuturers in their homw states also get this. The states these men represent have given those foreign car makers, huge tax breaks and billions in incentives to make cars here. And these same companies, like thousands of other foreign manufacturers that are here, FORGET TO PAY AMERICAN INCOME TAXES. These companies are nearly all in non compliance under our laws.
This administration has allowed nearly total non compliance of our laws. Records show seldom are these companies asked to pay the taxes they owe. Can you imagine one of our companies overseas being allowed to skip paying their share of corporate taxes? Look at our trade imbalance with China. The worst offender and most dangerous of all our trading partners.
How many of you know that when one of our company’s move overseas they get a tax break from our own government? What other country is stupid enough to pay a company to leave and put their own people out of work. These company’s are supposed to use that tax savings to hire or train new workers. They don’t. Instead the money is used to higher CEO salaries and stock dividends. And Bush has allowed them to be self monitoring. You can guess how that turns out.
And on top of that, they get that same tax deal every year. Like a swinging door. And still they do not re-train or hire new workers.
If any of you think your jobs are safe or the trade practices that now have cost millions their jobs do not make a difference to America, then you are too stupid to live. The fall out from companies that provide products to the car manufacturers are legion. When the manufacturers go under then all the other providers to under.
Car manufacturers have made mistakes. Bad ones. And one of the companies may go under. But the Wall Street bailout has shown one thing. The lack of scrutiny in how they have used the money we have given them. And they have been asked to give up nothing. The automobile manufactures have been asked to do things Wall Street never has. The union has given up things no bank president or CEO has. And the automobile manufactureres employ millions. How many does Wall Street employ.
December 12th, 2008 at 7:27 pmLast night, the Senate failed to approve the auto rescue package, voting 52-35 in favor of the bill – just eight short of the 60 votes that were needed.
Notice how in the last two years, it has become a tacitly accepted standard that 60 votes–an almost impossible number in this Senate and probably even in the one that’s coming–are needed to pass anything remotely controversial, given the Repub’s willingness to filibuster on every issue. That is a shameful development that speaks as much to the pusillanimous Dem “leadership” as it does to the Repub’s naked obstructionism. Until and unless we get a Senate majority leader with some balls (i.e. not Reid) Obama will have true problems getting anything done.
December 12th, 2008 at 7:52 pmDumb Question: If the US Auto makers get into trouble (and it appears that they have), won’t that open the door for some overseas auto industry to step in and fill the void.
Perhaps China wants to enter the US Auto Market???
December 12th, 2008 at 9:46 pmShould have added: so wouldn’t the end result of #48 be more jobs shipped overseas ????????????
December 12th, 2008 at 9:48 pmWow. If these clowns think that Bunning’s lil’ public embarrassment is the begining and end of their humiliation, they are in for a shocker.
-AF
December 12th, 2008 at 10:09 pmAndrew Sullivan Is A Fraud
Hat tip to Keith Olbermann. Now we know the truth:
Countdown has obtained a memo entitled “Action Alert – Auto Bailout,” and sent Wednesday at 9:12am, to Senate Republicans. The names of the sender(s) and recipient(s) have been redacted in the copy Countdown obtained. The Los Angeles Times reported that it was circulated among Senate Republicans. The brief memo outlines internal political strategy on the bailout, including the view that defeating the bailout represents a “first shot against organized labor.” Senate Republicans blocked passage of the bailout late Thursday night, over its insistence on an immediate union pay cut. See the entire memo after the jump.
From:
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 9:12 AM
To:
Subject: Action Alert — Auto Bailout
Today at noon, Senators Ensign, Shelby, Coburn and DeMint will hold a press conference in the Senate Radio/TV Gallery. They would appreciate our support through messaging and attending the press conference, if possible. The message they want us to deliver is:
1. This is the democrats first opportunity to payoff organized labor after the election. This is a precursor to card check and other items. Republicans should stand firm and take their first shot against organized labor, instead of taking their first blow from it.
2. This rush to judgment is the same thing that happened with the TARP. Members did not have an opportunity to read or digest the legislation and therefore could not understand the consequences of it. We should not rush to pass this because Detroit says the sky is falling.
The sooner you can have press releases and documents like this in the hands of members and the press, the better. Please contact me if you need additional information. Again, the hardest thing for the democrats to do is get 60 votes. If we can hold the Republicans, we can beat this.
http://thenewshole.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/12/12/1713569.aspx
December 12th, 2008 at 10:54 pmPARTITVM.RESPVBLICANVM.DELENDAM.ESSE
December 13th, 2008 at 12:28 amSenators who voted “nay” who are up for re-elecion in 2010:
Bennett(r-ut)
December 13th, 2008 at 12:40 amBunning(r-ky)
Burr(r-nc) (Hagen just beat Dole in this Obama state)
Coburn(r-ok)
Crapo(r-id)
DeMint(r-sc)
Grassley(r-ia) (Obama carried this state)
Gregg(r-nh) (Obama carried this state)
Isakson(r-ga)
Lincoln(DINO-ar)
Martinez(r-fl) (retiring – Obama carried this state)
McCain(r-az)
Murkowski(r-ak) (Run, Sarah, run)
Reid(DINO-nv)
Shelby(ah-al)
Thune(r-sd)
Vitter(adulterer-la)
Wyden(wtf?-or)
Yes to TARP, No to auto
Sen. John McCain (R-AZ)
hmmmm… i think he may have LIED to david LETTERMAN thurs night…
i KNOW he gave the impression that he knew the LOAN was necessary.
December 13th, 2008 at 1:55 am‘absolutely’…
DRxJ Says:
It appears (with the possible exception of McConnell from KY) that all the Yes votes for rich white guys and No for the blue collar middle class where Senators NOT from the rust belt.
rachel maddow tagged the southern faction “the PLANTATION CAUCUS”…
heh.
December 13th, 2008 at 2:05 am“Last night, the Senate failed to approve the auto rescue package, voting 52-35 in favor of the bill – just eight short of the 60 votes that were needed.”
Would be nice if you corrected this. The vote was not for the bill, it was for cloture. If it had actually been for the bill, 52 would have been enough to pass it.
December 13th, 2008 at 9:03 amClearly these southern senators don`t like organized labor and can`t see through the hypocrisy when they ask for wage parity to the foriegn auto makers and don`t see the similarities in wage and ben`s and to keep their right to work states union free so the middle class won`t rise up against them and question their actions.Plus one other motive is that unions helped elect an African American to the White House and to the Reich,KKK and the Confederacy this is against their racist ways.
December 13th, 2008 at 10:18 amanother thing i heard, from ed schultz… he wondered if maybe bush had told the plantation caucus, ‘ok – you guys do your thing, vote how you think you should for your folks, for your re-election, i’ll get it covered with the tarp funds.’
in other words, a set up… more politics of manipulation…
or something like that…
and, a caller to randi had a most logical scenario… that the righties were planning on the economic collapse, even directing it – however, it all fell apart too soon…
it was supposed to happen after january… “the obama depression”…
sounds perfectly plausible to me…
December 13th, 2008 at 11:45 amShelby & Co. keeps talking about changing in big 3 auto manufacturers like changing cars, the way they do business,build different cars etc..etc..
Shelby seems not to understand that the auto manufacturing business is not like making a cake, when the cook can change the recipe in no time.
It takes time to design and produce cars. It takes years from start to finish.
The auto industry need a help NOW, before going under.
Shelby and his buddies words are simply empty words.
Republicans motives are well known to all why they do not want to help the big 3.
December 13th, 2008 at 11:56 amBreak up of auto workers unions is their first reason and motive…
and the second is to help foreign companies in their own states succeed.
Both motives are un-American,specially after they voted without questioning the bailout of bankers in hundreds of billions of dollars, an amount much.. much larger than what the big 3 is asking for now.
It’s unbelievable that the American people are up in arm when they are robbed $100 but they would bend over when the banks and congress rob them hundreds of billions of dollars!
Those corrupt congressmen and congresswomen who have helped the banks to rob us must be thrown in jail together with the robbers. Justice should apply to everyone and those corrupt lawmakers must not be allowed to think they are above the law!
I can only dream of a day when the nation is cleaned up (possibly by a revolution?) and those greedy corrupt scumbags in congress are condemned for life.
December 25th, 2008 at 2:37 pm