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	<title>Comments on: The 20 senators who bailed out Wall Street but refused to rescue auto workers.</title>
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		<title>By: honeygreen</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/12/20-flipped-on-auto/comment-page-2/#comment-5395900</link>
		<dc:creator>honeygreen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 19:37:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s unbelievable that the American people are up in arm when they are robbed $100 but they would bend over when the banks and congress rob them hundreds of billions of dollars!

Those corrupt congressmen and congresswomen who have helped the banks to rob us must be thrown in jail together with the robbers. Justice should apply to everyone and those corrupt lawmakers must not be allowed to think they are above the law!

I can only dream of a day when the nation is cleaned up (possibly by a revolution?) and those greedy corrupt scumbags in congress are condemned for life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s unbelievable that the American people are up in arm when they are robbed $100 but they would bend over when the banks and congress rob them hundreds of billions of dollars!</p>
<p>Those corrupt congressmen and congresswomen who have helped the banks to rob us must be thrown in jail together with the robbers. Justice should apply to everyone and those corrupt lawmakers must not be allowed to think they are above the law!</p>
<p>I can only dream of a day when the nation is cleaned up (possibly by a revolution?) and those greedy corrupt scumbags in congress are condemned for life.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5395900', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: tarazan</title>
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		<dc:creator>tarazan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 16:56:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shelby &amp; Co. keeps talking about changing in big 3 auto manufacturers like changing cars, the way they do business,build different cars etc..etc..

Shelby seems not to understand that the auto manufacturing business is not like making a cake, when the cook can change the recipe in no time.
It takes time to design and produce cars. It takes years from start to finish.
The auto industry need a help NOW, before going under.
Shelby and his buddies words are simply empty words.

Republicans motives are well known to all why they do not want to help the big 3.
Break up of auto workers unions is their first reason and motive...
and the second is to help foreign companies in their own states succeed. 
Both motives are un-American,specially after they voted without questioning the bailout of bankers in hundreds of billions of dollars, an amount much.. much larger than what the big 3 is asking for now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shelby &amp; Co. keeps talking about changing in big 3 auto manufacturers like changing cars, the way they do business,build different cars etc..etc..</p>
<p>Shelby seems not to understand that the auto manufacturing business is not like making a cake, when the cook can change the recipe in no time.<br />
It takes time to design and produce cars. It takes years from start to finish.<br />
The auto industry need a help NOW, before going under.<br />
Shelby and his buddies words are simply empty words.</p>
<p>Republicans motives are well known to all why they do not want to help the big 3.<br />
Break up of auto workers unions is their first reason and motive&#8230;<br />
and the second is to help foreign companies in their own states succeed.<br />
Both motives are un-American,specially after they voted without questioning the bailout of bankers in hundreds of billions of dollars, an amount much.. much larger than what the big 3 is asking for now.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5379888', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: katy</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/12/20-flipped-on-auto/comment-page-2/#comment-5379862</link>
		<dc:creator>katy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 16:45:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>another thing i heard, from ed schultz... he wondered if maybe bush had told the plantation caucus, &#039;ok - you guys do your thing, vote how you think you should for your folks, for your re-election, i&#039;ll get it covered with the tarp funds.&#039;

in other words, a set up... more politics of manipulation...
or something like that...

and, a caller to randi had a most logical scenario... that the righties were planning on the economic collapse, even directing it - however, it all fell apart too soon... 

it was supposed to happen after january... &quot;the obama depression&quot;...

sounds perfectly plausible to me...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>another thing i heard, from ed schultz&#8230; he wondered if maybe bush had told the plantation caucus, &#8216;ok &#8211; you guys do your thing, vote how you think you should for your folks, for your re-election, i&#8217;ll get it covered with the tarp funds.&#8217;</p>
<p>in other words, a set up&#8230; more politics of manipulation&#8230;<br />
or something like that&#8230;</p>
<p>and, a caller to randi had a most logical scenario&#8230; that the righties were planning on the economic collapse, even directing it &#8211; however, it all fell apart too soon&#8230; </p>
<p>it was supposed to happen after january&#8230; &#8220;the obama depression&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p>sounds perfectly plausible to me&#8230;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5379862', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: christopher wiwi</title>
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		<dc:creator>christopher wiwi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 15:18:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clearly these southern senators don`t like organized labor and can`t see through the hypocrisy when they ask for wage parity to the foriegn auto makers and don`t see the similarities in wage and ben`s and to keep their right to work states union free so the middle class won`t rise up against them and question their actions.Plus one other motive is that unions helped elect an African American to the White House and to the Reich,KKK and the Confederacy this is against their racist ways.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clearly these southern senators don`t like organized labor and can`t see through the hypocrisy when they ask for wage parity to the foriegn auto makers and don`t see the similarities in wage and ben`s and to keep their right to work states union free so the middle class won`t rise up against them and question their actions.Plus one other motive is that unions helped elect an African American to the White House and to the Reich,KKK and the Confederacy this is against their racist ways.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5379830', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: lzcrmc</title>
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		<dc:creator>lzcrmc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 14:03:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Last night, the Senate failed to approve the auto rescue package, voting 52-35 in favor of the bill – just eight short of the 60 votes that were needed.&quot;

Would be nice if you corrected this.  The vote was not for the bill, it was for cloture.  If it &lt;em&gt;had &lt;/em&gt;actually been for the bill, 52 would have been enough to pass it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Last night, the Senate failed to approve the auto rescue package, voting 52-35 in favor of the bill – just eight short of the 60 votes that were needed.&#8221;</p>
<p>Would be nice if you corrected this.  The vote was not for the bill, it was for cloture.  If it <em>had </em>actually been for the bill, 52 would have been enough to pass it.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5379808', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: katy</title>
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		<dc:creator>katy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 07:05:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;DRxJ Says:
It appears (with the possible exception of McConnell from KY) that all the Yes votes for rich white guys and No for the blue collar middle class where Senators NOT from the rust belt.&lt;/em&gt;

rachel maddow tagged the southern faction &quot;the PLANTATION CAUCUS&quot;...

heh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>DRxJ Says:<br />
It appears (with the possible exception of McConnell from KY) that all the Yes votes for rich white guys and No for the blue collar middle class where Senators NOT from the rust belt.</em></p>
<p>rachel maddow tagged the southern faction &#8220;the PLANTATION CAUCUS&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p>heh.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5379758', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: katy</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/12/20-flipped-on-auto/comment-page-2/#comment-5379756</link>
		<dc:creator>katy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 06:55:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Yes to TARP, No to auto

Sen. John McCain (R-AZ)&lt;/em&gt;

hmmmm... i think he may have LIED to david LETTERMAN thurs night...

i KNOW he gave the impression that he knew the LOAN was necessary.
&#039;absolutely&#039;...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Yes to TARP, No to auto</p>
<p>Sen. John McCain (R-AZ)</em></p>
<p>hmmmm&#8230; i think he may have LIED to david LETTERMAN thurs night&#8230;</p>
<p>i KNOW he gave the impression that he knew the LOAN was necessary.<br />
&#8216;absolutely&#8217;&#8230;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5379756', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: dickdata42</title>
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		<dc:creator>dickdata42</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 05:40:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Senators who voted &quot;nay&quot; who are up for re-elecion in 2010:

Bennett(r-ut)
Bunning(r-ky)
Burr(r-nc) (Hagen just beat Dole in this Obama state)
Coburn(r-ok)
Crapo(r-id)
DeMint(r-sc)
Grassley(r-ia) (Obama carried this state)
Gregg(r-nh) (Obama carried this state)
Isakson(r-ga)
Lincoln(DINO-ar)
Martinez(r-fl) (retiring - Obama carried this state)
McCain(r-az)
Murkowski(r-ak) (Run, Sarah, run)
Reid(DINO-nv)
Shelby(ah-al)
Thune(r-sd)
Vitter(adulterer-la)
Wyden(wtf?-or)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Senators who voted &#8220;nay&#8221; who are up for re-elecion in 2010:</p>
<p>Bennett(r-ut)<br />
Bunning(r-ky)<br />
Burr(r-nc) (Hagen just beat Dole in this Obama state)<br />
Coburn(r-ok)<br />
Crapo(r-id)<br />
DeMint(r-sc)<br />
Grassley(r-ia) (Obama carried this state)<br />
Gregg(r-nh) (Obama carried this state)<br />
Isakson(r-ga)<br />
Lincoln(DINO-ar)<br />
Martinez(r-fl) (retiring &#8211; Obama carried this state)<br />
McCain(r-az)<br />
Murkowski(r-ak) (Run, Sarah, run)<br />
Reid(DINO-nv)<br />
Shelby(ah-al)<br />
Thune(r-sd)<br />
Vitter(adulterer-la)<br />
Wyden(wtf?-or)<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5379740', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: SPQR</title>
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		<dc:creator>SPQR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 05:28:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PARTITVM.RESPVBLICANVM.DELENDAM.ESSE</description>
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		<title>By: SP Biloxi</title>
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		<dc:creator>SP Biloxi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 03:54:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hat tip to Keith Olbermann. Now we know the truth:

Countdown has obtained a memo entitled &quot;Action Alert - Auto Bailout,&quot; and sent Wednesday at 9:12am, to Senate Republicans. The names of the sender(s) and recipient(s) have been redacted in the copy Countdown obtained. The Los Angeles Times reported that it was circulated among Senate Republicans. The brief memo outlines internal political strategy on the bailout, including the view that defeating the bailout represents a &quot;first shot against organized labor.&quot; Senate Republicans blocked passage of the bailout late Thursday night, over its insistence on an immediate union pay cut. See the entire memo after the jump.

&lt;strong&gt;From: 
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 9:12 AM
To: 
Subject: Action Alert -- Auto Bailout 
  
Today at noon, Senators Ensign, Shelby, Coburn and DeMint will hold a press conference in the Senate Radio/TV Gallery.  They would appreciate our support through messaging and attending the press conference, if possible.  The message they want us to deliver is: 
  
1.       This is the democrats first opportunity to payoff organized labor after the election.  This is a precursor to card check and other items.  Republicans should stand firm and take their first shot against organized labor, instead of taking their first blow from it.
  
2.       This rush to judgment is the same thing that happened with the TARP.  Members did not have an opportunity to read or digest the legislation and therefore could not understand the consequences of it.  We should not rush to pass this because Detroit says the sky is falling. 
  
  
The sooner you can have press releases and documents like this in the hands of members and the press, the better.  Please contact me if you need additional information.  Again, the hardest thing for the democrats to do is get 60 votes.  If we can hold the Republicans, we can beat this. &lt;/strong&gt;


http://thenewshole.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/12/12/1713569.aspx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hat tip to Keith Olbermann. Now we know the truth:</p>
<p>Countdown has obtained a memo entitled &#8220;Action Alert &#8211; Auto Bailout,&#8221; and sent Wednesday at 9:12am, to Senate Republicans. The names of the sender(s) and recipient(s) have been redacted in the copy Countdown obtained. The Los Angeles Times reported that it was circulated among Senate Republicans. The brief memo outlines internal political strategy on the bailout, including the view that defeating the bailout represents a &#8220;first shot against organized labor.&#8221; Senate Republicans blocked passage of the bailout late Thursday night, over its insistence on an immediate union pay cut. See the entire memo after the jump.</p>
<p><strong>From:<br />
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 9:12 AM<br />
To:<br />
Subject: Action Alert &#8212; Auto Bailout </p>
<p>Today at noon, Senators Ensign, Shelby, Coburn and DeMint will hold a press conference in the Senate Radio/TV Gallery.  They would appreciate our support through messaging and attending the press conference, if possible.  The message they want us to deliver is: </p>
<p>1.       This is the democrats first opportunity to payoff organized labor after the election.  This is a precursor to card check and other items.  Republicans should stand firm and take their first shot against organized labor, instead of taking their first blow from it.</p>
<p>2.       This rush to judgment is the same thing that happened with the TARP.  Members did not have an opportunity to read or digest the legislation and therefore could not understand the consequences of it.  We should not rush to pass this because Detroit says the sky is falling. </p>
<p>The sooner you can have press releases and documents like this in the hands of members and the press, the better.  Please contact me if you need additional information.  Again, the hardest thing for the democrats to do is get 60 votes.  If we can hold the Republicans, we can beat this. </strong></p>
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		<title>By: Anacher Forester</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anacher Forester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 03:09:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. If these clowns think that Bunning&#039;s lil&#039; public embarrassment is the begining and end of their humiliation, they are in for a shocker.

&lt;strong&gt;-AF&lt;/strong&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://sullyisafraud.blogspot&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Andrew Sullivan Is A Fraud&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. If these clowns think that Bunning&#8217;s lil&#8217; public embarrassment is the begining and end of their humiliation, they are in for a shocker.</p>
<p><strong>-AF</strong><br />
<a href="http://sullyisafraud.blogspot" rel="nofollow">Andrew Sullivan Is A Fraud</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5379696', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: MapleStreet</title>
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		<dc:creator>MapleStreet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 02:48:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Should have added:  so wouldn&#039;t the end result of #48 be more jobs shipped overseas ????????????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Should have added:  so wouldn&#8217;t the end result of #48 be more jobs shipped overseas ????????????<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5379676', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: MapleStreet</title>
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		<dc:creator>MapleStreet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 02:46:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dumb Question:  If the US Auto makers get into trouble (and it appears that they have), won&#039;t that open the door for some overseas auto industry to step in and fill the void.

Perhaps China wants to enter the US Auto Market???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dumb Question:  If the US Auto makers get into trouble (and it appears that they have), won&#8217;t that open the door for some overseas auto industry to step in and fill the void.</p>
<p>Perhaps China wants to enter the US Auto Market???<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5379672', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: chimpevil</title>
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		<dc:creator>chimpevil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 00:52:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Last night, the Senate failed to approve the auto rescue package, voting 52-35 in favor of the bill – just eight short of the 60 votes that were needed.&lt;em&gt;

Notice how in the last two years, it has become a tacitly accepted standard that 60 votes--an almost impossible number in this Senate and probably even in the one that&#039;s coming--are needed to pass anything remotely controversial, given the Repub&#039;s willingness to filibuster on every issue.  That is a shameful development that speaks as much to the pusillanimous Dem &quot;leadership&quot; as it does to the Repub&#039;s naked obstructionism.  Until and unless we get a Senate majority leader with some balls (i.e. not Reid) Obama will have true problems getting anything done.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last night, the Senate failed to approve the auto rescue package, voting 52-35 in favor of the bill – just eight short of the 60 votes that were needed.<em></p>
<p>Notice how in the last two years, it has become a tacitly accepted standard that 60 votes&#8211;an almost impossible number in this Senate and probably even in the one that&#8217;s coming&#8211;are needed to pass anything remotely controversial, given the Repub&#8217;s willingness to filibuster on every issue.  That is a shameful development that speaks as much to the pusillanimous Dem &#8220;leadership&#8221; as it does to the Repub&#8217;s naked obstructionism.  Until and unless we get a Senate majority leader with some balls (i.e. not Reid) Obama will have true problems getting anything done.</em><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5379626', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: curious</title>
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		<dc:creator>curious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 00:27:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This too is no surprise. This has always been about breaking the unions. Reagan had begun the process when one of his first acts was to destroy the air controllers union. All they wanted was better equipment. Folks this is nothing less then a class war. It has been in effect for the last twenty years. And those lousy trade agreements that Clinton signed off on were part of this same thing.

For instance in our trade agreement with South Korea, they are allowed to sell 600,000 cars a year in the US. We on the other hand are limited to 5,000 car a year in South Korea. This unfair trade balance is not unusual. It is the norm. Consistently our workers here are short changed in trade agreements that do not favor our own workers. They favor other countries. We are the only country that allows trade agreements in favor of others instead of our own.

Bush wants the trade agreement passed with Columbia. Columbia which is one of the worst offender to their own people wanting to start a union. Dozen of union organizers have been killed in Columbia in trying to get fair working conditions or salaries.

This is a class war. Republicans are not only trying to destroy unions for obvious reasons. Without a union, corporations are free to pay almost nothing. They are free to as before unions to impose bad working conditions and no health benefits. This is what the Republicans want. It is their wet dream. Billions for corporations and none for the worker.

The destruction of the middle class is the reason for such policies. The middle class vote and usually for policies that favor the poor and middle class. The destruction of the automobile manufacturers is part and parcel of this plan. They want to take us back to the corporate golden age. Where there were two classes. Rich and Poor.

And here is the most basic reason. The poor are usually too tired, to busy trying to survive. And mostly too impoverished to think about voting. And this is the whole idea. It was not till this election when so many millions of blacks, latinos etc. came out in droves to vote for change. Now these Republican senators who vote to let millions of Americans go under are trying to kill off what is left of the middle class,

These selfish, anti-Americans that answer to nothing but the wealthy of their constituents. They want a country of poor, uneducated underclass to man their factories, if there are any left. To work in fast food, to expect nothing much in the way of a better life. 

And these southern Senators with foreign car manufacuturers in their homw states also get this. The states these men represent have given those foreign car makers, huge tax breaks and billions in incentives to make cars here. And these same companies, like thousands of other foreign manufacturers that are here, FORGET TO PAY AMERICAN INCOME TAXES. These companies are nearly all in non compliance under our laws. 

This administration has allowed nearly total non compliance of our laws. Records show seldom are these companies asked to pay the taxes they owe. Can you imagine one of our companies overseas being allowed to skip paying their share of corporate taxes? Look at our trade imbalance with China. The worst offender and most dangerous of all our trading partners.

How many of you know that when one of our company&#039;s move overseas they get a tax break from our own government?  What other country is stupid enough to pay a company to leave and put their own people out of work. These company&#039;s are supposed to use that tax savings to hire or train new workers. They don&#039;t. Instead the money is used to higher CEO salaries and stock dividends. And Bush has allowed them to be self monitoring. You can guess how that turns out. 

And on top of that, they get that same tax deal every year. Like a swinging door. And still they do not re-train or hire new workers.

If any of you think your jobs are safe or the trade practices that now have cost millions their jobs do not make a difference to America, then you are too stupid to live. The fall out from companies that provide products to the car manufacturers are legion. When the manufacturers go under then all the other providers to under. 

Car manufacturers have made mistakes. Bad ones. And one of the companies may go under. But the Wall Street bailout has shown one thing. The lack of scrutiny in how they have used the money we have given them. And they have been asked to give up nothing. The automobile manufactures have been asked to do things Wall Street never has. The union has given up things no bank president or CEO has. And the automobile manufactureres employ millions. How many does Wall Street employ.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This too is no surprise. This has always been about breaking the unions. Reagan had begun the process when one of his first acts was to destroy the air controllers union. All they wanted was better equipment. Folks this is nothing less then a class war. It has been in effect for the last twenty years. And those lousy trade agreements that Clinton signed off on were part of this same thing.</p>
<p>For instance in our trade agreement with South Korea, they are allowed to sell 600,000 cars a year in the US. We on the other hand are limited to 5,000 car a year in South Korea. This unfair trade balance is not unusual. It is the norm. Consistently our workers here are short changed in trade agreements that do not favor our own workers. They favor other countries. We are the only country that allows trade agreements in favor of others instead of our own.</p>
<p>Bush wants the trade agreement passed with Columbia. Columbia which is one of the worst offender to their own people wanting to start a union. Dozen of union organizers have been killed in Columbia in trying to get fair working conditions or salaries.</p>
<p>This is a class war. Republicans are not only trying to destroy unions for obvious reasons. Without a union, corporations are free to pay almost nothing. They are free to as before unions to impose bad working conditions and no health benefits. This is what the Republicans want. It is their wet dream. Billions for corporations and none for the worker.</p>
<p>The destruction of the middle class is the reason for such policies. The middle class vote and usually for policies that favor the poor and middle class. The destruction of the automobile manufacturers is part and parcel of this plan. They want to take us back to the corporate golden age. Where there were two classes. Rich and Poor.</p>
<p>And here is the most basic reason. The poor are usually too tired, to busy trying to survive. And mostly too impoverished to think about voting. And this is the whole idea. It was not till this election when so many millions of blacks, latinos etc. came out in droves to vote for change. Now these Republican senators who vote to let millions of Americans go under are trying to kill off what is left of the middle class,</p>
<p>These selfish, anti-Americans that answer to nothing but the wealthy of their constituents. They want a country of poor, uneducated underclass to man their factories, if there are any left. To work in fast food, to expect nothing much in the way of a better life. </p>
<p>And these southern Senators with foreign car manufacuturers in their homw states also get this. The states these men represent have given those foreign car makers, huge tax breaks and billions in incentives to make cars here. And these same companies, like thousands of other foreign manufacturers that are here, FORGET TO PAY AMERICAN INCOME TAXES. These companies are nearly all in non compliance under our laws. </p>
<p>This administration has allowed nearly total non compliance of our laws. Records show seldom are these companies asked to pay the taxes they owe. Can you imagine one of our companies overseas being allowed to skip paying their share of corporate taxes? Look at our trade imbalance with China. The worst offender and most dangerous of all our trading partners.</p>
<p>How many of you know that when one of our company&#8217;s move overseas they get a tax break from our own government?  What other country is stupid enough to pay a company to leave and put their own people out of work. These company&#8217;s are supposed to use that tax savings to hire or train new workers. They don&#8217;t. Instead the money is used to higher CEO salaries and stock dividends. And Bush has allowed them to be self monitoring. You can guess how that turns out. </p>
<p>And on top of that, they get that same tax deal every year. Like a swinging door. And still they do not re-train or hire new workers.</p>
<p>If any of you think your jobs are safe or the trade practices that now have cost millions their jobs do not make a difference to America, then you are too stupid to live. The fall out from companies that provide products to the car manufacturers are legion. When the manufacturers go under then all the other providers to under. </p>
<p>Car manufacturers have made mistakes. Bad ones. And one of the companies may go under. But the Wall Street bailout has shown one thing. The lack of scrutiny in how they have used the money we have given them. And they have been asked to give up nothing. The automobile manufactures have been asked to do things Wall Street never has. The union has given up things no bank president or CEO has. And the automobile manufactureres employ millions. How many does Wall Street employ.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5379608', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Marie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 23:49:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama:
&lt;em&gt;I am disappointed that the Senate could not reach agreement on a short-term plan for the auto industry. I share the frustration of so many about the decades of mismanagement in this industry that has helped deliver the current crisis. . .But I also know that millions of American jobs rely directly or indirectly on a viable auto industry, and that the beginnings of reform are at hand. The revival of our economy as a whole should not be a partisan issue. . . My hope is that the Administration and the Congress will still find a way to give the industry the temporary assistance it needs while demanding the long-term restructuring that is absolutely required.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama:<br />
<em>I am disappointed that the Senate could not reach agreement on a short-term plan for the auto industry. I share the frustration of so many about the decades of mismanagement in this industry that has helped deliver the current crisis. . .But I also know that millions of American jobs rely directly or indirectly on a viable auto industry, and that the beginnings of reform are at hand. The revival of our economy as a whole should not be a partisan issue. . . My hope is that the Administration and the Congress will still find a way to give the industry the temporary assistance it needs while demanding the long-term restructuring that is absolutely required.</em><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5379568', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Marie</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/12/20-flipped-on-auto/comment-page-1/#comment-5379562</link>
		<dc:creator>Marie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 23:44:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s all about themselves - country be damned.  
Union busting is the goal - that means he future workplace will resemble the workplaces of a hundred years ago. 
We all owe the 40 hour work week, paid vacations, workplace safety, breaktime, sick days to unions and their support of the working public.
Today, we take these things for granted, with fewer factory jobs and more jobs at desks, so they don&#039;t seem as important to some... for now.  
The GOP slugs who denied this aid to mfg. are looking out for their own constituencies only - (their states have foreign mfr. factories)- but they banded together to defeat this, to falsely blame union demands, and when Bush finally gives them the left over funds from the Wall Street bailout, they will effectively make him seem a hero. 
Pardon me while I throw up at that thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s all about themselves &#8211; country be damned.<br />
Union busting is the goal &#8211; that means he future workplace will resemble the workplaces of a hundred years ago.<br />
We all owe the 40 hour work week, paid vacations, workplace safety, breaktime, sick days to unions and their support of the working public.<br />
Today, we take these things for granted, with fewer factory jobs and more jobs at desks, so they don&#8217;t seem as important to some&#8230; for now.<br />
The GOP slugs who denied this aid to mfg. are looking out for their own constituencies only &#8211; (their states have foreign mfr. factories)- but they banded together to defeat this, to falsely blame union demands, and when Bush finally gives them the left over funds from the Wall Street bailout, they will effectively make him seem a hero.<br />
Pardon me while I throw up at that thought.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5379562', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Proud American Liberal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Proud American Liberal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 23:32:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s all part of the GOP &quot;War on the American Worker&quot; started during the Reagan administration. The Repugs want to bring back the slave economy, even if it destroys the US, and they want to be the slave owners. In their dim little minds, American workers have no rights.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s all part of the GOP &#8220;War on the American Worker&#8221; started during the Reagan administration. The Repugs want to bring back the slave economy, even if it destroys the US, and they want to be the slave owners. In their dim little minds, American workers have no rights.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5379554', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: tarazan</title>
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		<dc:creator>tarazan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 23:07:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is obvious who are the Senators are siding with, the bankers and not the workers.
 The money auto industry wanted was very small compared to what the bankers received from Treaury Secretary Paulson.
The Senators who opposed giving much smaller money to auto industry, voted without hesitancy to give hundreds of billions of taxpayers money to bankers.
That shows where their interests are.
But people will not forget this..and in coming elections the senators who voted against workers must be beaten.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is obvious who are the Senators are siding with, the bankers and not the workers.<br />
 The money auto industry wanted was very small compared to what the bankers received from Treaury Secretary Paulson.<br />
The Senators who opposed giving much smaller money to auto industry, voted without hesitancy to give hundreds of billions of taxpayers money to bankers.<br />
That shows where their interests are.<br />
But people will not forget this..and in coming elections the senators who voted against workers must be beaten.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5379530', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Perry logan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Perry logan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 22:34:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Clearly the problem with government is that it still has too many Republicans in it. We must rectify this situation as soon as possible.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Nay!  The problem with this country is that it still has residual Republicans in it.  If we rectify this situation, the rest will resolve itself.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSGLzStgujM</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Clearly the problem with government is that it still has too many Republicans in it. We must rectify this situation as soon as possible.</p></blockquote>
<p>Nay!  The problem with this country is that it still has residual Republicans in it.  If we rectify this situation, the rest will resolve itself.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSGLzStgujM" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSGLzStgujM</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5379492', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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