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	<title>Comments on: Obama lays out vision for education reform steeped in ‘deep pragmatism’ and not ‘clouded by ideology.’</title>
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		<title>By: luckypuck</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/16/obama-arne-duncan/comment-page-2/#comment-5387398</link>
		<dc:creator>luckypuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 08:32:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a long-time educator of educators, I see the problem as much more complex than any discussed here. If I had to pick one thing out of that complexity that might be the key issue, it’s that policy is made by too many people who either don’t know how people learn or they think it’s not relevant.

Certainly, No Child Left Behind, based on sound business principles of accountability (apparently for everyone except the top echelons given the CEO corruption recently exposed). However, business principles are totally not applicable to all the learning processes that different people bring to their schooling.

All the little paths and connections within each person’s brain are unique to him or her. Consequently, no one-size-fits-all methodology will suit very many learners. There are auditory learners and visual learners, analyzers and synthesizers, product oriented and process oriented learners; methodical and inventive, linear and random thinkers, those skilled in fact accumulation and those skilled in creative thinking. The litany of learning styles goes on and on and on; too many to deal with here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a long-time educator of educators, I see the problem as much more complex than any discussed here. If I had to pick one thing out of that complexity that might be the key issue, it’s that policy is made by too many people who either don’t know how people learn or they think it’s not relevant.</p>
<p>Certainly, No Child Left Behind, based on sound business principles of accountability (apparently for everyone except the top echelons given the CEO corruption recently exposed). However, business principles are totally not applicable to all the learning processes that different people bring to their schooling.</p>
<p>All the little paths and connections within each person’s brain are unique to him or her. Consequently, no one-size-fits-all methodology will suit very many learners. There are auditory learners and visual learners, analyzers and synthesizers, product oriented and process oriented learners; methodical and inventive, linear and random thinkers, those skilled in fact accumulation and those skilled in creative thinking. The litany of learning styles goes on and on and on; too many to deal with here.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5387398', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: luckypuck</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/16/obama-arne-duncan/comment-page-2/#comment-5386126</link>
		<dc:creator>luckypuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 19:22:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a long-time educator of educators, I see the problem as much more complex than any discussed here.  If I had to pick one thing out of that complexity that might be the key issue, it&#039;s that policy is made by too many people who either don&#039;t know how people learn or they think it&#039;s not relevant.  

Certainly, No Child Left Behind, based on sound business principles of accountability (apparently for everyone except the top echelons given the CEO corruption recently exposed).  However, business principles are totally not applicable to all the learning processes that different people bring to their schooling.

All the little paths and connections within each person&#039;s brain are unique to him or her.  Consequently, no one-size-fits-all methodology will suit very many learners.  There are auditory learners and visual learners, analyzers and synthesizers, product oriented and process oriented learners; methodical and inventive, linear and random thinkers, those skilled in fact accumulation and those skilled in creative thinking.  The litany of learning styles goes on and on and on; too many to deal with here.  

Multiple intelligences is a well-researched, but well-ignored doctrine.  I&#039;m pretty well convinced this is because the political aspects of the educational structure is so business oriented they can only operate on one level, the bottom-line mentality:  Objective, concrete, accountable.  If you can&#039;t count it, it isn&#039;t worth anything.  Unfortunately,  in this learning environment those whose mental circumstances aren&#039;t objective or concrete are ignored and lost unless they can bend their unique learning processes to that wheel.  Quite a feat for a six- or seven-year old.

The current teaching processes essentially are dependent on rote memorization and based on an agricultural/industrial model.  With the advent of the computer, they are obsolete. What is needed is a high tech/communication model and this requires more invention and creativity (a good reason for inclusion of the arts in any curriculum)in order to face the challenges of the 21st century.  Don&#039;t teach to the tests, teach to the individual learning process.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a long-time educator of educators, I see the problem as much more complex than any discussed here.  If I had to pick one thing out of that complexity that might be the key issue, it&#8217;s that policy is made by too many people who either don&#8217;t know how people learn or they think it&#8217;s not relevant.  </p>
<p>Certainly, No Child Left Behind, based on sound business principles of accountability (apparently for everyone except the top echelons given the CEO corruption recently exposed).  However, business principles are totally not applicable to all the learning processes that different people bring to their schooling.</p>
<p>All the little paths and connections within each person&#8217;s brain are unique to him or her.  Consequently, no one-size-fits-all methodology will suit very many learners.  There are auditory learners and visual learners, analyzers and synthesizers, product oriented and process oriented learners; methodical and inventive, linear and random thinkers, those skilled in fact accumulation and those skilled in creative thinking.  The litany of learning styles goes on and on and on; too many to deal with here.  </p>
<p>Multiple intelligences is a well-researched, but well-ignored doctrine.  I&#8217;m pretty well convinced this is because the political aspects of the educational structure is so business oriented they can only operate on one level, the bottom-line mentality:  Objective, concrete, accountable.  If you can&#8217;t count it, it isn&#8217;t worth anything.  Unfortunately,  in this learning environment those whose mental circumstances aren&#8217;t objective or concrete are ignored and lost unless they can bend their unique learning processes to that wheel.  Quite a feat for a six- or seven-year old.</p>
<p>The current teaching processes essentially are dependent on rote memorization and based on an agricultural/industrial model.  With the advent of the computer, they are obsolete. What is needed is a high tech/communication model and this requires more invention and creativity (a good reason for inclusion of the arts in any curriculum)in order to face the challenges of the 21st century.  Don&#8217;t teach to the tests, teach to the individual learning process.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5386126', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: stateofthedivision</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/16/obama-arne-duncan/comment-page-2/#comment-5385472</link>
		<dc:creator>stateofthedivision</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 15:55:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have a clue as to the new meaningless buzz words.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have a clue as to the new meaningless buzz words.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5385472', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Rowan Berkeley</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/16/obama-arne-duncan/comment-page-2/#comment-5385252</link>
		<dc:creator>Rowan Berkeley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 09:11:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is no such thing as a &quot;deep prgmatism.&quot; Not even John Dewey would have used a phrase as meaningless as that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no such thing as a &#8220;deep prgmatism.&#8221; Not even John Dewey would have used a phrase as meaningless as that.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5385252', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: dbadass</title>
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		<dc:creator>dbadass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 22:29:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not a problem stateofthedivision and 90 did not refer to 89</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not a problem stateofthedivision and 90 did not refer to 89<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5384528', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: stateofthedivision</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/16/obama-arne-duncan/comment-page-2/#comment-5384516</link>
		<dc:creator>stateofthedivision</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 22:26:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I said earlier, sometimes it’s best to be quiet, especially if the point is already made well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I said earlier, sometimes it’s best to be quiet, especially if the point is already made well.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5384516', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: stateofthedivision</title>
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		<dc:creator>stateofthedivision</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 22:25:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dbadass, I wasn&#039;t including you in the personal attack group.  My apology if that was the impression.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dbadass, I wasn&#8217;t including you in the personal attack group.  My apology if that was the impression.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5384506', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Skeeter1</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/16/obama-arne-duncan/comment-page-2/#comment-5384504</link>
		<dc:creator>Skeeter1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 22:24:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tokin must be fun at dinner parties.

&quot;So, what are you working on, my friend?&quot;

&quot;CAN&#039;T TELL YOU! IT TOOK ME FOUR YEARS . . .&quot;

&quot;OK, nice meeting you.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tokin must be fun at dinner parties.</p>
<p>&#8220;So, what are you working on, my friend?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;CAN&#8217;T TELL YOU! IT TOOK ME FOUR YEARS . . .&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;OK, nice meeting you.&#8221;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5384504', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: dbadass</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/16/obama-arne-duncan/comment-page-2/#comment-5384482</link>
		<dc:creator>dbadass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 22:20:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The last one sort of forces me to discount any intelligent things that have been said by the poster.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The last one sort of forces me to discount any intelligent things that have been said by the poster.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5384482', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: stateofthedivision</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/16/obama-arne-duncan/comment-page-2/#comment-5384476</link>
		<dc:creator>stateofthedivision</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 22:19:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s a place to start:

&lt;em&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/New-Economics-Industry-Government-Education/dp/0262541165&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The New Economics for Industry, Government, Education &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;by Dr. W. Edwards Deming

All three need change and a return to quality performance.

Another option is to read the Alfie Kohn article linked to in post 16.  

&lt;em&gt;Punished by Rewards &lt;/em&gt;is another winner.  Kohn has lots of articles on his web site.  

http://www.alfiekohn.org/index.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a place to start:</p>
<p><em><a href="http://www.amazon.com/New-Economics-Industry-Government-Education/dp/0262541165" rel="nofollow">The New Economics for Industry, Government, Education </a></em>by Dr. W. Edwards Deming</p>
<p>All three need change and a return to quality performance.</p>
<p>Another option is to read the Alfie Kohn article linked to in post 16.  </p>
<p><em>Punished by Rewards </em>is another winner.  Kohn has lots of articles on his web site.  </p>
<p><a href="http://www.alfiekohn.org/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.alfiekohn.org/index.html</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5384476', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: tokin librul</title>
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		<dc:creator>tokin librul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 22:18:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Further, I could easily explain my own work in five minutes.&lt;/em&gt;
unless you cleaned latrines, you couldn&#039;t explain what you do in five minutes...not if i had as little understanding of that, whatever it were, as you appear to have of education and schooling...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Further, I could easily explain my own work in five minutes.</em><br />
unless you cleaned latrines, you couldn&#8217;t explain what you do in five minutes&#8230;not if i had as little understanding of that, whatever it were, as you appear to have of education and schooling&#8230;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5384472', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: dbadass</title>
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		<dc:creator>dbadass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 22:15:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;dbadass, it’s hard to stick to the issue when posters attack the individual, not the point made.&quot;

You will note that I never attacked anyone as manners do indeed matter. In fact I made it very clear that I was not trying to be argumentative nor ill mannered. I simply asked for background and clarification</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;dbadass, it’s hard to stick to the issue when posters attack the individual, not the point made.&#8221;</p>
<p>You will note that I never attacked anyone as manners do indeed matter. In fact I made it very clear that I was not trying to be argumentative nor ill mannered. I simply asked for background and clarification<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5384460', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: tokin librul</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/16/obama-arne-duncan/comment-page-2/#comment-5384452</link>
		<dc:creator>tokin librul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 22:15:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Skeeter: Read Freire.

We all stand on someone&#039;s shoulders.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Skeeter: Read Freire.</p>
<p>We all stand on someone&#8217;s shoulders.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5384452', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Skeeter1</title>
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		<dc:creator>Skeeter1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 22:15:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I had a physics prof who once told me “If you can’t explain your work in five minutes, you really don’t understand it.”

Fine, please explain srring theory to me? you have five minutes.&quot;

I can&#039;t, but the prof could. He was the expert and I was just an undergrad in a different major trying to get a Jesuit education. He understood his work and as such, he could provide a basic explanation in five minutes.

Further, I could easily explain my own work in five minutes. Or I could lecture on the subject for four hours. I&#039;ve done both, depending on the audience.  When you know your subject, you don&#039;t fall back on &quot;but I took four years  . . .&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I had a physics prof who once told me “If you can’t explain your work in five minutes, you really don’t understand it.”</p>
<p>Fine, please explain srring theory to me? you have five minutes.&#8221;</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t, but the prof could. He was the expert and I was just an undergrad in a different major trying to get a Jesuit education. He understood his work and as such, he could provide a basic explanation in five minutes.</p>
<p>Further, I could easily explain my own work in five minutes. Or I could lecture on the subject for four hours. I&#8217;ve done both, depending on the audience.  When you know your subject, you don&#8217;t fall back on &#8220;but I took four years  . . .&#8221;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5384454', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: tokin librul</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/16/obama-arne-duncan/comment-page-2/#comment-5384438</link>
		<dc:creator>tokin librul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 22:12:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Did I miss the place where Skeeter1 claimed to be a physicist who was so very experienced in string theory?&lt;/em&gt;

Okay, explain Physics. You have five minutes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Did I miss the place where Skeeter1 claimed to be a physicist who was so very experienced in string theory?</em></p>
<p>Okay, explain Physics. You have five minutes.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5384438', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: tokin librul</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/16/obama-arne-duncan/comment-page-2/#comment-5384434</link>
		<dc:creator>tokin librul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 22:12:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Looks like you spent four years working but never really got an understanding of the subject&lt;/em&gt;.

Two words, sweetie: Read Dewey.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Looks like you spent four years working but never really got an understanding of the subject</em>.</p>
<p>Two words, sweetie: Read Dewey.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5384434', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: dbadass</title>
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		<dc:creator>dbadass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 22:11:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did I miss the place where Skeeter1 claimed to be a physicist who was so very experienced in string theory?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did I miss the place where Skeeter1 claimed to be a physicist who was so very experienced in string theory?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5384432', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: stateofthedivision</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/16/obama-arne-duncan/comment-page-2/#comment-5384424</link>
		<dc:creator>stateofthedivision</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 22:11:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dbadass, it&#039;s hard to stick to the issue when posters attack the individual, not the point made.

Things deteriorate when people attribute motive and personal characteristics in offense (or in retaliation).

I&#039;ve incurred the wrath of the anger brothers in the past and have some compassion for tokin.  It&#039;s a challenge to respond appropriately.  Sometimes it&#039;s best to be quiet, especially if the point is already made well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dbadass, it&#8217;s hard to stick to the issue when posters attack the individual, not the point made.</p>
<p>Things deteriorate when people attribute motive and personal characteristics in offense (or in retaliation).</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve incurred the wrath of the anger brothers in the past and have some compassion for tokin.  It&#8217;s a challenge to respond appropriately.  Sometimes it&#8217;s best to be quiet, especially if the point is already made well.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5384424', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: tokin librul</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/16/obama-arne-duncan/comment-page-2/#comment-5384422</link>
		<dc:creator>tokin librul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 22:10:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I had a physics prof who once told me “If you can’t explain your work in five minutes, you really don’t understand it.”&lt;/i&gt;

Fine, please explain srring theory to me? you have five minutes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I had a physics prof who once told me “If you can’t explain your work in five minutes, you really don’t understand it.”</i></p>
<p>Fine, please explain srring theory to me? you have five minutes.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5384422', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Skeeter1</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/16/obama-arne-duncan/comment-page-2/#comment-5384414</link>
		<dc:creator>Skeeter1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 22:08:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>tokin,

I had a physics prof who once told me &quot;If you can&#039;t explain your work in five minutes, you really don&#039;t understand it.&quot;

Looks like you spent four years working but never really got an understanding of the subject.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tokin,</p>
<p>I had a physics prof who once told me &#8220;If you can&#8217;t explain your work in five minutes, you really don&#8217;t understand it.&#8221;</p>
<p>Looks like you spent four years working but never really got an understanding of the subject.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5384414', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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