Fratto: ‘No One Could Have Anticipated’ Terrorists Flying Planes Into Buildings Before 9/11
Fratto: ‘No One Could Have Anticipated’ Terrorists Flying Planes Into Buildings Before 9/11
The Bush White House is in full-throttle spin mode, attempting to repair the President’s badly tarnished legacy. This afternoon, Fox News lent a hand in the effort to revise history. In an interview with White House press spokesman Tony Fratto, Fox anchor Jon Scott claimed that, prior to 9/11, “nobody was thinking” that terrorists could fly planes into buildings as an act of terrorism. Fratto agreed:
SCOTT: Back to the 9/11 attacks, which happened after all pretty early in this president’s first term, I mean nobody was thinking that there’d be terrorists flying 767s into buildings at that point. …
FRATTO: That’s true. I mean, no one could have anticipated that kind of attack — or very few people.
Watch it:
In fact, intelligence analysts had been warning for some time that terrorists could hijack planes. On December 4, 1998, for example, the Clinton administration received a President’s Daily Brief entitled “Bin Ladin Preparing to Hijack US Aircraft and Other Attacks.” The Clinton administration responded by convening its top counterterrorism experts and heightening security at airports around the nation.
On August 6, 2001, the Bush administration received a President’s Daily Brief entitled “Bin Laden Determined to Strike U.S.” The memo warned:
We have not been able to corroborate some of the more sensational threat reporting, such as that from a —- service in 1998 saying that Bin Laden wanted to hijack a U.S. aircraft to gain the release of “Blind Sheikh” Omar Abdel Rahman and other U.S.-held extremists.
Nevertheless, FBI information since that time indicates patterns of suspicious activity in this country consistent with preparations for hijackings or other types of attacks, including recent surveillance of federal buildings in New York.
Moreover, the Federal Aviation Administration “had indeed considered the possibility that terrorists would hijack a plane and use it as a weapon,” and in 2001 it distributed a CD-ROM presentation to airlines and airports that cited the possibility of a suicide hijacking.
In response to that threat warning, the Bush administration did nothing. The 9/11 Commission reports, “We have found no indication of any further discussion before September 11 among the President and his top advisers of the possibility of a threat of an al Qaeda attack in the United States.”
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No one could have imagined such a disgustingly mendacious, criminal regime actually coming to power in Washington.
December 17th, 2008 at 4:45 pmFratto: ‘No One Could Have Anticipated’ Terrorists Flying Planes Into Buildings Before 9/11»
– - Wow, revisionist, Condi deja vu.
I worked on a film in 1996 titled Executive Decision where a hijacked commercial jetliner was loaded with a nerve agent and was headed toward the Eastern Seaboard on a suicide mission. So yeah, who could have imagined?
December 17th, 2008 at 4:46 pmWhy acknowlege reality when spin is so much more comfortable? It’s not like anyone’s going to hold them accountable for destroying this country for the last eight years.
December 17th, 2008 at 4:48 pmYeah, but nowhere in those memos does it mention the name of the airline, the flight, day & time, or even how many hijackers would be involved.
You liberals are so picky about these things…. sheesh…
/sarc off
December 17th, 2008 at 4:50 pmDo these people ever turn on the TV? What about “Escape From New York” (1981)? In John Carpenter’s movie, terrorists hijacked Air Force One and flew it into a building in lower Manhattan (not the WTC).
December 17th, 2008 at 4:51 pmbin Laden had absolutly nothing to do with the
December 17th, 2008 at 4:51 pmAirliners that were alleged to have been hijacked
and certainly didn’t have access to the WTC to wire
it for demolition prior to 9-11.
Let’s see, I was a millionaire at age 16, I quickly because the most loved and richest person in the world. I saved the world from certain doom by fighting space aliens that were out to crash UFO’s into all our Micky D’s around the globe. I am now remembered for doing everything perfect my entire life and anything bad was someone else’s fault…
….wow, rewriting history can be fun.
December 17th, 2008 at 4:52 pmThat’s ODD!!!!!
Because on the VERY SAME DAY, they were running exercises for that VERY THING!
That is why there was a great deal of confussion, as people did not know if it was a training exercise or the real thing.
But hey……. How could anyone have “immagined” this type of thing when we were training for it?
December 17th, 2008 at 4:53 pmIs it just me, or have the usual lies and bs from this criminal administration soared to new heights/levels recently? I mean, in sheer numbers, at the very least.
The utter contempt and disdain these scumbags have for the American people’s intelligence continues to amaze – and disgust.
Even they have to know only 25% (or lower) are buying their dishonest sh*t anymore, so who in the hell do they think they’re fooling? It’s not surprising the rest of the world just points at us and laughs.
December 17th, 2008 at 4:54 pmNIST finally admits that WTC 7 achieved free-fall acceleration.
9/11, more than meets the eye.
“The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media.”
- William Colby, former Director of the CIA (1920-1996)
Source: Derailing Democracy: The America the Media Don’t Want You to See (2000), by Dave McGowan
“In 1983, 50 corporations controlled the vast majority of all news media in the U.S. At the time, Ben Bagdikian was called ‘alarmist’ for pointing this out in his book, The Media Monopoly. In his 4th edition, published in 1992, he wrote ‘in the U.S., fewer than two dozen of these extraordinary creatures own and operate 90% of the mass media’ — controlling almost all of America’s newspapers, magazines, TV and radio stations, books, records, movies, videos, wire services and photo agencies… When the 6th edition of The Media Monopoly was published in 2000, the number had fallen to six. Since then, there have been more mergers and the scope has expanded to include new media like the Internet market.”
Source: http://www.corporations.org/media/
“The military’s propaganda program largely has been aimed at Iraqis, but seems to have spilled over into the U.S. media. One briefing slide about U.S. “strategic communications” in Iraq, prepared for Army Gen. George W. Casey Jr., the top U.S. commander in Iraq, describes the ‘home audience’ as one of six major targets of the American side of the war.”
Source: Military Plays Up Role of Zarqawi Jordanian Painted As Foreign Threat To Iraq’s Stability, Washington Post
“Daschle and Leahy held the most important roles in Congress, as Majority Leader and Chair of Judiciary, respectively, in the possible blockage of the PATRIOT Act, which both men had originally indicated they might oppose.
December 17th, 2008 at 4:54 pmThe long-time attacks on NBC News and other media outlets perceived to have a ‘Liberal’ bias are well known.
It should be noted that Anthrax letters were also sent to the Editor of the New York Post (a Rupert Murdoch-owned paper) and the National Enquirer offices, whose political bent, if they have one, seems difficult to discern.”
Source: Corporate Media Coverage of Now-Deceased U.S. Army Bio-Researcher/Suspect Fails to Note Obvious ‘Liberal’ Targets of Deadly Post-9/11, Pre-War Letter Campaign;
Brad Friedman
So only representatives with a D before there name have the moral fiber to put all selfish tenancies aside and do what’s best for the country. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
December 17th, 2008 at 4:54 pm“nobody was thinking” THEREFORE “no one could have anticipated that kind of attack”.
Two half-wits make a whole wit, if someone can combine them.
December 17th, 2008 at 4:55 pmNotice how the FAUX “anchor” feeds the line to the Bush apologist? I supposed it’s supposed to make it seem more plausible of the interviewer brings up the talking point first, then softballs it to the apologist, instead of making the apologist bring up his own talking points himself. All he has to do is nod his bobbly head.
I tells ya, there’s an art to this stuff.
December 17th, 2008 at 4:56 pmMy head is spinning with the Bush Farewell Tour and all of their lies….
December 17th, 2008 at 4:56 pmThe head of security for Merill Lynch anticipated it, and every one of those workers that were in the WTC survived. He didn’t because he went back in.
December 17th, 2008 at 4:56 pmOn March 4, 2001, the short lived Lone Gunman series (airing on Fox ironically) broadcast an episode where a secret government agency ‘hijacks’ a Boeing 727 enroute from Boston and plots to fly the plane by remote control into the World Trade Center. The agency responsible was planning to do this to increase military spending and would blame “any tin-pot dictator begging to be smart-bombed”.
Fortunately, our heroes (the Lone Gunman) managed to stop this plane from flying into the Trade Center.
Like they say, who could have anticipated????
December 17th, 2008 at 4:57 pmSHORTER FRATTO: No one could have anticipated that we’d actually have to DO this government job thing.
December 17th, 2008 at 4:57 pmWho ever could have anticipated that the combined total IQ for everyone in Bush administration is less than the I.Q. of a pissant?
December 17th, 2008 at 4:58 pmHelp me out here, my fellow TPers. Am I correct that 1) Congress members have the initial of their party “after” their name, 2) the possessive is “their” not “there”, and 3)a cold turd got dropped in aisle 12.
December 17th, 2008 at 4:58 pmWhoop! Whoop! Whoop!
Revisionist History Alert!
Bush Legacy Team at Work!
Whoop! Whoop! Whoop!
Boy, my Whoop, Whoop, Whooping is getting old.
We all know what they’ve done and what they didn’t do.
From the August 6th 2001 presidential Daily Briefing….
We have not been able to corroborate some of the more sensational threat reporting, such as that from a [deleted text] service in 1998 saying that Bin Laden wanted to hijack a U.S. aircraft to gain the release of “Blind Shaykh” ‘Umar’ Abd aI-Rahman and other U.S.-held extremists.
If only Bush could read, hell, if anyone of Bush’s staff could read……
December 17th, 2008 at 4:59 pmIceman:
December 17th, 2008 at 4:59 pmWhat?
sorry PLC,
December 17th, 2008 at 5:00 pmyou seen to have that clusterf uck already under control…
Many people theorized as to the many ways Bush would try to salvage his legacy.
It would involve lots of “no one anticipated”, last widely used by the Neanderthals.
December 17th, 2008 at 5:01 pmI thought the 12 in front of the name indicated the order that they posted, not their IQ
my bad
December 17th, 2008 at 5:02 pmdbadass, are you asking “what” the post says or “what” the poster is? … Oh, wait, never mind. The answer is the same: “nothing important”.
December 17th, 2008 at 5:03 pmIs this just their constant projecting: they couldn’t anticipate therefore no one could have?
After recent admissions, it is more plausible that they knew it was coming and thought it would make the case for invading Iraq.
December 17th, 2008 at 5:08 pmForget what you’ve hear over the 8 years and the 9/11 commission report the memo Bush had about Bin Liden using planes to attack US. Now Bush had the meeting and quickly left for vacation. We must remember Bush did notify Daddy Bush, Connie, Rummy and other friends not to fly on Sept. 11th. As noted with the World Trade Center Jewish people seem to take a holiday on Sept. 11th, that was quick thinking on their part who knew? The terrorist Families became wealthy after the attack and with the blink of an eye all the Saudis were on a plane home without being questioned.
I’m sure the United Nations has all that information when the War Crime charges are brought against the Bush Administration.
December 17th, 2008 at 5:09 pmOnly the few million people who watched the Lone Gunmen pilot. It was a FOX SHOW for crying out loud! Morons.
December 17th, 2008 at 5:12 pm[obligatory TLG link]
Why don’t we replace all the government thinktanks with kids who watch TV 24/7…we’d be better prepared.
man – the “revisionist express” is in high gear. “Hell with the country – just make sure we rewrite history to save chimpy’s sorry ass from the history garbage dump” – too late !!
December 17th, 2008 at 5:12 pmCrap. It’s a good thing this bullshit isn’t floodwater – OR WE’D ALL BE DROWNING IN IT!!!!
You know, sort of like New Orleans during Katrina…?
December 17th, 2008 at 5:14 pmAnyone who researches the 9/11 attack can’t avoid the conclusion that it was a self-inflicted wound. The tactical operation was carried out by Mossad. Happily, it seems, from all available evidence. Who exactly was involved in the planning here in the US is still a mystery, although there are some likely suspects: AEI, AIPAC, the Zionist controlled mass media, and 33rd degree WASP Masons (the other Masons can go suck on themselves). I’d say freemasons, but they’re anything but free. They’re all part of the world’s largest criminal organization, a fascist, Zionist, rich WASPs club. Religion? They have no more to do with religion…any religion…than bananas have to do with the moon. They’re about money and power and nothing else, and they’ll do anything to get and keep it. Any pretensions to a moral high ground are laughable. Even they laugh about it it private.
To you, you’re the great unwashed sucker trade, there to be used, abused and ripped off at every opportunity.
They’re the reason for the guillotine. Here’s Johnny!
December 17th, 2008 at 5:14 pmHey, guys, we all know you are lying. The facts have been out there for years. Fool yourself once, shame on you; fool yourself twice, uh, well, shame…uh, fool…. well, just don’t do it again.
December 17th, 2008 at 5:15 pmThat’s as bad as saying “No one could have anticipated Bush running the country into the ground.” One only has to look at his accomplishments before 2000 to know this was foreseeable.
December 17th, 2008 at 5:18 pmSoooo, nobody could anticipate the planes flying into buildings. Nobody could anticipate the breach of the NOLA levies. Nobody could anticipate that Saddam did not have WMD’s. Nobody could have anticipated the level of Iraqii insurgency. Nobody could have anticipated that bundling of shoddy loans within other strong assets would bring down the economy, etc…
If we are to believe Bush, the strongest and most powerful government on earth could not anticipate anything at all! If their lips are moving, they are lying to you.
December 17th, 2008 at 5:19 pmWow is this guy just stupid or what? Obviously he hasn’t heard of Operation Northwoods. The Bushites were warned about possible hijacking of commercial aircraft.
http://www.maryferrell.org/wiki/index.php/Operation_Northwoods
9/11 was either a straight up inside job by those within our own government or they turned their backs to allow those who planned it to proceed with their plan.
This is nothing new:
The sinking of the USS Maine, which was actually caused by an boiler exploding on the USS Maine but the US media at the time blamed it on Cubans or the Spanish which started the Spanish-American war.
The German sinking of the Lusitania which caused the deaths of 1924 people, including 114 Americans. This helped get the US into WWI and effected Americans much like 9/11 did. The Germans warned that passenger ships would be sunk only with prior warning and safeguards for passengers.
The attack of Pearl Harbor, many believe this was a false flag attack where we allowed the Japanese to attack Pearl Harbor. After the attack most Americans who were against getting involved with WWII were now firmly behind the idea of war.
The Gulf Of Tonkin Incident, another false flag attack reported by our military of an incident that never happened but helped get us into the Vietnam war.
The attack of the USS Liberty by Israel was supposedly done to help get the US to back Israels war with Egypt.
9/11…..???
December 17th, 2008 at 5:22 pmNobody could have anticipated…
…except for TOM FREAKIN’ CLANCY.
Debt of Honor was the biggest bestseller of 1995, and the climax of it was the Japanese crashing a 747 into the Capitol Building.
But of course conservatives don’t read Tom Clancy.
December 17th, 2008 at 5:24 pmLook at all this nonsense.
The president has a legal obligation to do anything and everything to protect our country in a manner consistent with law.
He did absolutely nothing, give a clear warning. Not even a follow-up phone call. Nothing was done even given a staff of people.
Apparently, they planned on letting such attacks happen, so they could use it politically, and this is the true 9/11 conspiracy.
It was in fact dereliction of duty, or criminal negligence, depending on the Commander in Chief or Chief Executive point of view. And it was conspiracy to implement this neglegence. Otherwise…did a dog eat their PDB? Did they just forget the FBI’s phone number? In addition, there are several movies, made before 2001, that have this type of attack as part of the plot. Has Fratto seen them?
This horrendous lapse was in fact a federal crime, and many people, including federal officials lost their lives.
It is felony mass murder under our law, and it also qualifies for Special Circumstances.
But Bush and Cheney have, since that despicable act, added the same charge to their docket, in their conspiracy to defraud the United States in their implementation of Bush’s heinous re-election strategy, the invasion of Iraq. Again, Special Circumstances.
Is there any such thing as accountability and the rule of law ?
December 17th, 2008 at 5:29 pmIsn’t the most important thing about America that we have supposedly some control over the power of the powerful?
precedence for false flag terrorism. read. learn. educate others. this shit only works on the masses when the masses are uninformed.
the recent mumbai attacks are a perfect example of state-sponsored terrorism. notice how the attacks occur on a large, popular, secular american holiday. notice how the terrorists all carried MP5s, the automatic assault rifle of choice for special forces operators and tactical police the world over.
notice, too, their strategy: take out the counter-terrorism specialist first… then attack when there’s no real leadership, and after overwhelming the first-responders with mass casualties, attack the hospital. professional operation. textbook CIA.
now connect the dots with the terrorists: linked to pakistan terror cells… and do you think that any of this might have something to do with the fact that pakistan ousted our puppet [musharraf] only a few weeks beforehand — and that it’s in the US’s interest to get pakistan back under US control?
what a perfect method of applying pressure to pakistan, no?
hamid gul (former head of pakistan) claims mumbai attacks were an inside job.
wake up people.
December 17th, 2008 at 5:30 pmThe Bushites:
Couldn’t foresee terrorists hijacking commercial jetliners and crashing them into buildings although they were warned in advanced by experts.
Couldn’t foresee the destructive forces and aftermath of hurricane Katrina although they were warned and failed to respond in a timely matter as Bush played guitar in San Diego and Condi was busy buying shoes.
Couldn’t foresee the economic crisis, denying for months that we were in an obvious recession. They couldn’t deny it any longer after giving out billions of dollars to the banksters and crooksters on Wallstreet.
Sadly the Americans who voted twice for George W. Bush couldn’t foresee what a disaster and national embarrassment he would be as our 43rd president. All they had to do was look at his resume as a businessman and shutter in fear when he said he would run the government like a business, apparently using Enron as his business model.
December 17th, 2008 at 5:30 pmThe Borgen Project has informative statistics on addressing global poverty.
$30 billion ends world hunger
$550 billion is the US Defense budget
This organization has the ability, resources, and policy-makers to suppress the threat of global poverty by enacting legislation here in the US, which is tied to the United Nation’s Millennium Development Goals. Please support organizations such as The Borgen Project so that we may rid the world of poverty.
December 17th, 2008 at 5:35 pmIt seems the Bush administration is working overtime in the waning days of the Bush presidency. They seem to be trying to wash their hands of any wrong doing they caused during these past eight years.
Keep trying to recreate your own history you morons, the American people and the world knows the real truth and no amount of industrial strength soap will ever wash the vast amount of blood that is on this administrations hands.
December 17th, 2008 at 5:39 pmCould we splinter TP into the conspiracy theory group and the non conspiracy group? TP’s credibility goes to hell with each posting of the Zeitgeist afficionados.
Area 51 baby! I’ve seen the bodies!!
December 17th, 2008 at 5:44 pmif you’re going to apologize for the bush administration, at least have the courtesy to say “sorry”.
December 17th, 2008 at 5:44 pmresearch much or have you wandered too far away from your favorite weblog over at salon today?
you do realize that you’re like a battered child in denial about your abuser, don’t you?
it is a physical impossibility — a violation of basic laws of physics — for a building to achieve free-fall acceleration in a progressive collapse. it’s impossible. are you seriously prepared to argue against newtonian physics?
December 17th, 2008 at 5:50 pmFratto and Scott are going about this in the wrong way.
We know it’s a lie that “nobody could have foreseen” — there’s documentation showing that it WAS foreseen, and by the right people.
But what could have been done? Anything? Certainly. However, the warnings lacked a specific date, a specific location, or even specific people to watch. Therefore, it would have been necessary to adopt additional security measures at all airports in the country for in indefinite length of time. This would have been very difficult to keep under the radar, and making sweeping changes to tighten security overtly would have brought complaints, accusations of racial profiling, howls of civil rights violations, etc. etc.
If Fratto and the Bush spinners (isn’t that a rock group?) were smart, they would push this angle instead of making statements that only serve to make them look like lying revisionists.
December 17th, 2008 at 5:52 pmhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lt._Col._Anthony_Shaffer
December 17th, 2008 at 5:55 pmhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sibel_Edmonds
There were studies about how well nuclear powerplants could withstand aircraft crashes – including aircraft like Boeing 767.
Some of these studies pre-date 9/11 by many years.
(It needs to be added that the focus was on crashing military planes, as there was a real danger due to low-flying training over Europe in the 80’s.)
Here is a German study that sums up such research:
December 17th, 2008 at 6:05 pmhttp://www.oeko.de/oekodoc/623/2007-163-de.pdf
The literature reference list at the end of the document reaches back to 1976.
I missed the reference about salon weblog. What is that supposed to mean?
I am a believer in Occam’s Razor. It would take an inside job of unbelievable capability to pull off something like what you are talking about and not have anyone squeal.
The 19 a$$holes got lucky. Beyond their wildest dreams. Bush’s culpability is his laziness and his incompetence, and maybe that he he knew about the plot and purposefully didn’t stop it because he realized the usefulness of such a strike.
My abuser loves me, this I know.
Moderate this TP!
December 17th, 2008 at 6:06 pmNo one could have anticipated a plane used as a weapon ?
Don’t you guys watch any movies ?
I know that CSI is how you decide legal issues. So sign up for Netflix and you can find that scenario covered again and again.
December 17th, 2008 at 6:11 pmoccam relied on logical fallacy to prove a hypothesis true or false?
if the official conspiracy theory only took 19 hijackers, how would an inside job require more knowing participants? in fact, it could be accomplished with LESS. perhaps you’ve heard of compartmentalization?
what if it could be pulled off with as few as 7?
have you even thought this through, my dear disciple of occam?
December 17th, 2008 at 6:16 pmhave you looked at the evidence?
I remember a time when anyone who posted anything related to a 911 “conspiracy” theory, whether U.S. involvement in the attacks was either complicit or implicit. As time as gone on, and we have all observed how this administration works, and the completely illegal and immoral acts they have countenanced, combined with their failure to accept any responsibility for ANY obvious failure (Katrina for instance). Combined with the constant lies, the manipulation of science for policy ends, the willingness to destroy the environment for corporate ends, and finally, the destruction of our economy (as demonstrated in the absolutely abysmal manner in which both the Treasury and Fed have dealt with it, and the outright stealing of our tax dollars and just on and on…many of us no longer consider it out of the question that the administration was involved in 911 itself. I am one that refused to consider the idea for several years, but changed my mind a year or so ago. I now believe these people are quite capable of anything, including establishing martial law just prior to the transfer of power to a new administration.
December 17th, 2008 at 6:22 pmare there precedents governments keeping secrets?
governments can and do indeed keep secrets:
the manhattan project (atomic bomb) was kept secret from the american public for several years.
the illegal slaughter of 40K indonesians in east timor between 1975 and 1976 was kept secret from the american public for almost a decade.
worse, there are also whistle-blowers who risk their careers (and potentially lives) in bringing information forward: ask yourself why you’ve never heard of colonel anthony shaffer (“able danger” intelligence program, US army), or sibel edmonds (former FBI translator).
December 17th, 2008 at 6:23 pmThese people really must think that the entire world’s only source of information of any kind is fox.
December 17th, 2008 at 6:24 pmSorry…didn’t finish the first sentence which should end as shown below.
I remember a time when anyone who posted anything related to a 911 “conspiracy” theory, whether U.S. involvement in the attacks was either complicit or implicit, was booed off TP’s board.
December 17th, 2008 at 6:30 pmThey ignored the daily intelligence reports that warned them of the attacks. Dubya failed big time.
December 17th, 2008 at 6:31 pmObviously a Bushsh*t excuse, but it’s amazing that they can slide by some demographics with this failure-of-the-imagination excuse, as if a failure to anticipate the event absolves them of all responsibility for air defense.
The press doesn’t follow-up with actual examples of plans to fly planes into skyscrapers, or the Vigilant Guardian exercise, so that helps to catapult the propaganda.
Our entire government appears to be stunned in the headlights of pure evil and acts of God. Poor things. Glad they’re on their way out.
December 17th, 2008 at 6:36 pmFratto is lying. What about the G8 summit in Italy just a few months before. They were hearing reports that bin laden might fly a plane loaded with explosives into the hotel where Bush was staying. Was it so hard to imagine that they might have hijacked a plane to do that, instead?
December 17th, 2008 at 6:41 pmthose who believe that 9/11 was a “happy accident” which enabled the bush administration to illegally invade 2 countries, murder over one million iraq nationals and civilians, send over 4,000 soldiers to their deaths, implement the partiot act, the homeland security act, FISA, extraordinary rendition, and adopt an official torture policy that is in clear violation of international treaty, as well as bilk the public trust for trillions of dollars… etc, etc, etc… you have my undying sympathy as an awake, aware, sentient human.
i know the bush and cheney families owe you a debt of gratitude for allowing these heinous crimes to continue through your participation as the necessary, willfully ignorant populace. good job america.
December 17th, 2008 at 6:46 pmwearechange Says:
December 17th, 2008 at 6:49 pm“““““““““““““`
Good call, I notice we haven’t heard anything from Sibel Edmonds or Colonel Schaffer in a long time. The threat of death seems to be an effective remedy for those who wish to expose the truth about our government. Welcome to the United Corporations Of Amerika.
No one in this administration could have anticipated the attacks on 9/11/2001.
That makes a little bit more sense, but only a little. Their argument would carry more weight if that was the only catastrophe of the administration. So would, ‘He made us safe.’
December 17th, 2008 at 6:54 pmindeed. the compliant media changed their tune right after they sent out “the memos” … you know the ones i’m talking about… the ones sprinkled with anthrax.
kooky conspiracy theorists, my left nut.
if i recall, peter jennings, dan rather, and lou dobbs all either inferred or outright said “inside job” on the morning of 9/11.
intelligence failures?
9/11: Press for Truth, “The Jersey Girls”:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3979568779414136481
9/11 The Myth and the Reality, David Ray Griffin, PhD (Claremont University):
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-275577066688213413 (138 minutes)
Steven E. Jones, PhD; (Brigham Young):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMhl-S5MyAc (122 minutes)
9/11 Blueprint for Truth, Richard Gage AIA:
http://www.ae911truth.org/flashmov11.htm (120 minutes)
9/11: Fabled Enemies, Jason Bermas:
December 17th, 2008 at 7:15 pmhttp://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2144933190875239407
As Wayne said…..
Genoa Italy G8 summit!!!
December 17th, 2008 at 7:16 pmI am convinced and have been from day one that 9/11 was an inside job. I will never forget Georgie sitting in that classroom while our country was under “attack.” The look on his face was not a look of fear or what do I do? The look said “I can’t believe they really did it.” He heard the talk, he heard the plans – he was just slightly out of the loop. Cheney was definitely in charge of America’s crime of the century. No doubt.
December 17th, 2008 at 7:21 pmGuardian UK
December 17th, 2008 at 7:23 pm
anybody bring THIS one up???
MICROSOFT had a flight simulation program that specifically showed an airliner avoiding collision with tall buildings that looked amazingly like the twin towers.
i know. i saw it.
i do believe it was that morning… on nbc… katie couric was commenting about it. maybe the next day.
but i saw it.
can’t find it now…….
December 17th, 2008 at 7:32 pmKaty – I had that flight simulator and sold it on ebay – you can’t buy it new anymore.
December 17th, 2008 at 7:47 pmDon’t tell those at the Pentagon who were staging a mock-model disaster drill wherein a plane had crashed into the Pentagon – THE MORNING OF 9/11:
Agency planned exercise on Sept. 11 built around a plane crashing into a building
WASHINGTON — In what the government describes as a bizarre coincidence, one U.S. intelligence agency was planning an exercise last Sept. 11 in which an errant aircraft would crash into one of its buildings. But the cause wasn’t terrorism — it was to be a simulated accident.
In a promotion for speaker John Fulton, a CIA officer assigned as chief of NRO’s strategic gaming division, the announcement says, “On the morning of September 11th 2001, Mr. Fulton and his team … were running a pre-planned simulation to explore the emergency response issues that would be created if a plane were to strike a building. Little did they know that the scenario would come true in a dramatic way that day.”
The National Reconnaissance Office operates many of the nation’s spy satellites. It draws its personnel from the military and the CIA.
LINK
The NRO was the PERFECT player to help pull the cover over the rest of the Defense Dept. and hide evidence.
December 17th, 2008 at 7:49 pmRamzi Yousef had drawn up plans for flying an airplane into CIA headquarters in 1995. This was found out after Yousef was picked up and arrested for bombing the WTC in 1993.
The evidence was there if somebody wanted to see it.
December 17th, 2008 at 7:51 pmMICROSOFT had a flight simulation program that specifically showed an airliner avoiding collision with tall buildings that looked amazingly like the twin towers.
I had the DOS version around 18 years ago and flew my sim-Cessna square into one of the World Trade towers while unsuccessfully trying to fly between them.
Only took about 45 minutes in real time to reach them from the nearest sim-airport.
In other words, the technology to “pretend” to pull this off has existed in the mainstream for almost 2 decades.
Priceless.
December 17th, 2008 at 7:52 pmNobody could have anticipated that we’d ever have a President stupider than Warren G. Harding either.
-AF
December 17th, 2008 at 8:33 pmAndrew Sullivan Is A Fraud
WTC 1,2 AND 7, CAME DOWN IN LESS THAN 10 SECONDS (FREE FALL)AND IN THE VERY SAME FASHION AS CONTROLLED DEMOLITION. IT WAS CONTROLLED DEMOLITION.
December 17th, 2008 at 9:06 pmI DARE THE PENTAGON TO SHOW THE FOOTAGE OF A 757 HITING ITS BUILDING. THEY WON’T BECAUSE THERE WAS NO 757. THE PENTAGON WAS HIT BY A MISSILE. ALSO, I WOULD VERY MUCH LIKE TO HEAR THE REASON WHY A E-4B PLANE WAS DOING FLYING OVER WASHINGTON ON THAT DAY.
ALSO, HAVE BUSH AND CHENNEY UNSWERING QUESTIONS UNDER OATH AND IN PUBLIC!
UNTIL THAN, 9/11 WAS AN INSUDE JOB!
…missspelled it: 9/11 WAS AN INSIDE JOB!
December 17th, 2008 at 9:11 pmI mean, no one could have anticipated that kind of attack — or very few people.
December 17th, 2008 at 9:19 pmThis is just another catch phrase/talking point from these immoral criminals. Rice has used exactly the same phrase. The same lie the same modus operandi. It is a LIE!
NO ONE! NO ONE COULD HAVE ANTICIPATED! MYAAH!
Well, maybe a few people.
OK, a number of people.
None of which were in the Bush administration.
Or the Republican party.
So… NO ONE!
December 17th, 2008 at 9:33 pmIt seems to me that most of the American people are suspicious around the events of 9/11 – the official story makes no sense. And in light of all that has transpired since then, more and more people doubt the official conspiracy. This crime must be investigated. We the People deserve the truth.
December 17th, 2008 at 10:07 pmOn January 20, 2009, at the moment Obama says “I do”, the 5 million or so citizens gathered throughout Washington DC, should surround the place of swearing in, and sequester booosh and Deadeye dick until the Capital police arrest them. Do not listen to the phoney secret service dickhead gestapo, in fact arrest them too, and just overwhelm the fuking tratiors on the stage and do not let them off.
ARREST, TRY AND HANG Bush et al.
December 17th, 2008 at 10:30 pmDuring the five weeks before the 9/11 attacks:
1) Aug. 6th, 2001 Presidential Daily Briefing–”Bin Laden Determined to Strike in U.S.”
Bush, the decider-in-chief, decides to stay on vacation for another three weeks. Bush, the decider-in-chief, decides to let Condi Rice and the rest of his neo-con Republican national security team handle things, even though Condi Rice has not yet held a single cabinet-level counter-terrorism principals’ meeting, to coordinate information between our intelligence and law enforcement agencies. Under President Bill Clinton, counter-terrorism chief Richard Clarke held three such meetings a week. He was demoted and denied access to cabinet-level neo-con Republican meetings after Bush/Cheney/Rice entered the White House, even though he’d served previously under both Republican and Democratic presidents.
2) Mid-August: one of the scheduled hijacked-plane pilots is arrested at a Midwest flight school after raising the suspicions of flight instructors because he didn’t want to learn how to take off or land 747s, but only how to fly them while they’re airborne. The FBI has him in custody. The FBI field agents petition FBI headquarters, and John Ashcroft, over and over again in the weeks leading up to 9/11 for authorization to search this guy’s personal effects. Over seventy requests are made, all are denied…even though under FISA law at that time, the search could have been done without a warrant, with the only requirement being that the FBI had to justify their warrantless search before the FISA court within 48 hours. Wasn’t done. Wasn’t even attempted. The Midwest FBI field agents became so desperate they sought to have this foreign national extradited to England, where his personal effects could be searched while going through customs. This was to happen on 9/11. Too late.
But you see, John Ashcroft’s Justice Department was too busy cracking down on prostitutes, pornographers and druggies to waste valuable time investigating suspected terrorists and protecting U.S. citizens from any imminent right-wing religious fundamentalist terrorist attack. In fact, after John Ashcroft became Attorney General in early 2001, he downgraded the terrorist threat priority level at the Justice Department far below where Clinton’s administration had placed the terrorist threat priority level (at the top).
3) One week before the 9/11 attacks, Condi Rice holds her one and only cabinet-level counter-terrorism principals’ meeting at which was discussed, she later admitted, the Bush administration’s overall Middle East strategy…not al Qaeda…not the guy under arrest in the Midwest…not the Aug. 6th PDB. In other words, Condi and her “crack” neo-con Republican pals discussed taking out Saddam Hussein, which was the heart of their Middle East strategy.
It is quite obvious that the Bush/Cheney administration had other priorities during 2001, after they stole into the White House and before the 9/11 attacks, and protecting U.S. citizens from right-wing religious fundamentalist terrorists was not one of the top priorities, or even middle priorities, in the Bush/Cheney administration.
No matter how much smoke nor how many mirrors are employed by Bush administration officials, past and present, they will never escape their sole responsibility for the 9/11 hijackers succeeding in killing close to 3,000 U.S. citizens on 9/11.
December 17th, 2008 at 11:34 pmSCOTT: I mean nobody was thinking that there’d be terrorists flying 767s into buildings at that point.
That’s not nice. He shouldn’t call Richard Clarke a “nobody”.
December 18th, 2008 at 12:10 amI was going to say the tv spin-off series from X-Files, The Lone Gunmen, destroyed the WTC with a remote-controlled plane—but raynman and EtherealStrife beat me to it.
December 18th, 2008 at 1:08 amLets not forget the botched attempt to fly a passenger jet into the Eiffel Tower in Paris and that was well before the 9/11 attacks. Nor forget the FBI agents in Phoenix and Minneapolis warning about Arabs wanting to learn to fly jets but not takeoffs or landings. These were major red flags. In fact, nearly all of the intelligence reports spoke of hijackings.
December 18th, 2008 at 1:48 amMs. Rice confirmed in 2002 that information picked up by U.S. intelligence services indicated that an attack might be made on Mr. Bush and other leaders at the July 2001 Group of Eight summit in Genoa, Italy. Former White House officials confirmed that in response to the warning, Italian authorities closed the local airport, restricted airspace and positioned surface-to-air missiles around the city. WSJ, 4/1/04
SOURCE:
December 18th, 2008 at 5:15 amClues Pointed to Changing Terrorist Tactics; Foiled Plots, FBI Data Showed Al Qaeda Groups Might Use Airplanes as Missiles
Steve Fainaru. The Washington Post. Washington, D.C.: May 19, 2002. pg. A.09
pretty amazing that back in 1998 no one had the wherewithal to figure out that it might be a good idea to secure airplane cockpit doors. The world is a mighty different place today for lack of that little piece of imagination.
December 18th, 2008 at 6:55 am…the old we’re ‘he did it too’ defense while at the same time blaming everyone for not being smarter. republicans are such children – deadly, dangerous children, but immature chhildren nonetheless.
“no one could of predicted…” = we’re as dumb as everybody else. Not exactly what any one is looking for in leadership.
December 18th, 2008 at 7:01 amMost people I know think 911 was an inside job.
I suspect this as well.
December 18th, 2008 at 9:23 amI didn’t read all of the posts down to this point, so if this has already been said, forgive me.
Tom Clancy wrote a book in which a 747 is crashed into the White House. The book pre-dated 9-11 by several years. I believe its title was Debt of Honor.
A novelist could come up with the idea, but the folks concerned with national security couldn’t? What do we pay them for?
December 18th, 2008 at 11:46 amJust like the cold war when everyone who didn’t agree with the U.S. was either a communist or a communist sympathizer. toki This poor crazy guy spent half a decade being tortured because a bunch of stupid politicians araç sorgulama were sure the NVA was in bed with the Russians (minimal help) and/or the Chinese (ancient enemy of the vietnamese). ssk sorgulama You would think he would have learned from others’ mistakes. Guess not. Republicans need an enemy. key ödemeleri This century it apparently will be all Muslims, health all of whom must be alQaeda operatives.
March 1st, 2009 at 1:33 pm