Comments on: Drunk George Tenet lashed out at Bush’s neocons: ‘The Jews’ who tried to ‘pin the Iraq WMD fiasco on him.’ http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/17/tenet-neocons/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 09:55:26 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: MichaelF http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/17/tenet-neocons/comment-page-3/#comment-5391590 MichaelF Sun, 21 Dec 2008 01:34:05 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/17/tenet-neocons/#comment-5391590 The joke is that these "Jewish" neo-cons really have no connection to the Jewish community. For example, Paul Wolfowitz belongs to no synagogue, no Jewish organizations, but he does have an Arab girlfriend. Ask any knowledgeable member of the Jewish community, and they will tell you that in the past Wolfowitz has always associated with the Arabs! And for those who say, "Wait a minute! The entire war was fought only for Israel's sake!" Sorry. Hate to burst your bubble, but the neo-cons don't give a damn about Israel. We now know that Israel opposed the US invasion. According to those present at Bush's private talks with then PM Sharon, Sharon told Bush not to attack Saddam because it would open the gate for Iranian expansion and cause other problems. Note the comments of former State Department official Lawrence Wilkerson, who is one of these eyewitnesses. Just do a web search. There are plenty of news stories on this. The joke is that these “Jewish” neo-cons really have no connection to the Jewish community. For example, Paul Wolfowitz belongs to no synagogue, no Jewish organizations, but he does have an Arab girlfriend. Ask any knowledgeable member of the Jewish community, and they will tell you that in the past Wolfowitz has always associated with the Arabs!

And for those who say, “Wait a minute! The entire war was fought only for Israel’s sake!” Sorry. Hate to burst your bubble, but the neo-cons don’t give a damn about Israel. We now know that Israel opposed the US invasion. According to those present at Bush’s private talks with then PM Sharon, Sharon told Bush not to attack Saddam because it would open the gate for Iranian expansion and cause other problems. Note the comments of former State Department official Lawrence Wilkerson, who is one of these eyewitnesses. Just do a web search. There are plenty of news stories on this.

]]> By: sickofitall http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/17/tenet-neocons/comment-page-3/#comment-5390904 sickofitall Sat, 20 Dec 2008 02:10:45 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/17/tenet-neocons/#comment-5390904 For those who still don't believe, Check out Operation Clean Break...There are still going to be weasels trying to carry out their plans, inept as they are and horrifying as it seems. http://www.irmep.org/PDF/3-27-2003_Clean_Break_or_Dirty_War.pdf For those who still don’t believe, Check out Operation Clean Break…There are still going to be weasels trying to carry out their plans, inept as they are and horrifying as it seems.

http://www.irmep.org/PDF/3-27-2003_Clean_Break_or_Dirty_War.pdf

]]> By: jgarbuz http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/17/tenet-neocons/comment-page-3/#comment-5390210 jgarbuz Fri, 19 Dec 2008 19:34:08 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/17/tenet-neocons/#comment-5390210 The situation of Jews in the US and Europe today is not much different than in GErmany in the late 1920s and '30, when a combination of economic depression and the post war situation made the scapegoating of Jews for Germany's loss of WWI and the subsequent difficulties fashionable. Nothing has really changed, except that the word "Jew" has been replaced by such more "PC" euphemisms such as "Zionists" or "neocons." They've even attempted to pin 9/11 on the "Zionists." As my mother, a holocaust survivor, told me as a child, that antisemitism is in the blood, and while it may go underground for a while, never really goes away. Thankfully, today there is a Jewish state where Jews can defend themselves if required. Otherwise, not much has really changed. The situation of Jews in the US and Europe today is not much different than in GErmany in the late 1920s and ‘30, when a combination of economic depression and the post war situation made the scapegoating of Jews for Germany’s loss of WWI and the subsequent difficulties fashionable. Nothing has really changed, except that the word “Jew” has been replaced by such more “PC” euphemisms such as “Zionists” or “neocons.”
They’ve even attempted to pin 9/11 on the “Zionists.” As my mother, a holocaust survivor, told me as a child, that antisemitism is in the blood, and while it may go underground for a while, never really goes away. Thankfully, today there is a Jewish state where Jews can defend themselves if required. Otherwise, not much has really changed.

]]> By: Sam Thornton http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/17/tenet-neocons/comment-page-3/#comment-5389018 Sam Thornton Fri, 19 Dec 2008 00:03:41 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/17/tenet-neocons/#comment-5389018 Jeesh! Mention the words "Jew" or "Israel" and the loonies pop out. Blaming members of a narrow, ideological group for something is a far cry from blaming an entire ethnic group. It's the difference between criticism and racism. Jeesh! Mention the words “Jew” or “Israel” and the loonies pop out. Blaming members of a narrow, ideological group for something is a far cry from blaming an entire ethnic group. It’s the difference between criticism and racism.

]]> By: American Patriots Against Zionism http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/17/tenet-neocons/comment-page-3/#comment-5387802 American Patriots Against Zionism Thu, 18 Dec 2008 16:23:44 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/17/tenet-neocons/#comment-5387802 The "Jews" like Wolfowitz and Feith did manipulate the US into war and were well aware of pre-9/11 attacks. Tenet is right. The sad part is that no one is able to speak the truth without the anti-Semite grenade going off. They should be tried and hung as traitors. Why do we allow people with dual citizenship and non-US loyalties into positions of power in the government? These Jews (a loose term since they are neither religious nor moral) would sell their soul and the US for Mother Zion. They murdered dozens on the USS liberty without remorse and allowed thousands to die on 9/11. Time to rethink that plan from the 40s! The “Jews” like Wolfowitz and Feith did manipulate the US into war and were well aware of pre-9/11 attacks. Tenet is right. The sad part is that no one is able to speak the truth without the anti-Semite grenade going off.

They should be tried and hung as traitors. Why do we allow people with dual citizenship and non-US loyalties into positions of power in the government?

These Jews (a loose term since they are neither religious nor moral) would sell their soul and the US for Mother Zion. They murdered dozens on the USS liberty without remorse and allowed thousands to die on 9/11.

Time to rethink that plan from the 40s!

]]> By: jgarbuz http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/17/tenet-neocons/comment-page-3/#comment-5387454 jgarbuz Thu, 18 Dec 2008 13:50:28 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/17/tenet-neocons/#comment-5387454 While Tenet was drinking alcohol and babbling in the holy land of the Muslims, Saudi Arabia, I wonder why he didn't ask Prince Bandar the following three questions: 1. Why Christians and Jews are never allowed to live as citizens in the kingdom? 2. Why did Muhammad personally behead 600-900 Jews, rob their wealth, and ethnically cleanse them out of Medina, a city the Jews had originally founded? 3. And, what happened to the properties of the nearly 1 million Jews who were forced to leave the Arab countries after 1948? While Tenet was drinking alcohol and babbling in the holy land of the Muslims, Saudi Arabia, I wonder why he didn’t ask Prince Bandar the following three questions:

1. Why Christians and Jews are never allowed to live as citizens in the kingdom?

2. Why did Muhammad personally behead 600-900 Jews, rob their wealth, and ethnically cleanse them out of Medina, a city the Jews had originally founded?

3. And, what happened to the properties of the nearly 1 million Jews who were forced to leave the Arab countries after 1948?

]]> By: Arthur_Abyss http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/17/tenet-neocons/comment-page-3/#comment-5387416 Arthur_Abyss Thu, 18 Dec 2008 12:08:44 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/17/tenet-neocons/#comment-5387416 <em>According to one witness, he mocked</em>... Not really the most convincing way to corroborate something, is it. Nor to introduce more thoughts on a well-known "taboo" US policy discussion related to our obvious unpatriotic tie to the "51st State" of Israel. That really has less to do with Jews per say, and more to do with the convenience of merging of "Old Testament" ideologies and power-bases of certain audiences, whether raptures, Bush and neo-cons imposing as if a way-of-life, what has become a very uncomfortable, un-American relation between American citizens and Israel right-wing. Can anyone explain why during the election process, the major newsbroadcasters (BBC, CNN etc..) transmitted in full, the live speeches of Hillary and Obama at AIPAC? It became normalized. No one asked about those speeches, i.e. why does Hillary Clinton know the names of Israeli soldiers "kidnapped" who should be released...(soldiers are captured by the way, not kidnapped) Why is she marching with their wives in NYC? Why are we even commenting on Jerusalem politics? Why is she discussing how textbooks introduce the term "nakba" and then she takes the right-wing, mostly unpopular position this term isn't allowable. All in that one global speech. Etc... The situation became normalized with Rahm Emmanuel, who no matter what spin is going to be put, volunteered in Israel for his service during the Gulf War. And let's not forget his father's recent statements about dirty Arabs that NO one asked him to apologize for except finally the Arab-American groups. The Neo-Cons were of course aligned with certain geopolitical realities, and Israel is working its way into Kurdistan, and oil pipelines are being directed to them, and the like, this is no secret news. But the neo-cons just institutionalized for their greed and corruption what was already in place. Now... the relation is "normalized" as the 51st State in principle. "I think when this is all over, people are going to say that Barack Obama is the first Jewish president"--Abner Mikva, as quoted in: Pauline Dubkin Yearwood, OBAMA AND THE JEWS: A look at why some Jews love him and some don't trust him; and at the key role Chicago Jews played in getting him to where he is, http://www.chicagojewishnews.com/story.htm?sid=212226&id=252218, (10/24/2008) According to one witness, he mocked… Not really the most convincing way to corroborate something, is it. Nor to introduce more thoughts on a well-known “taboo” US policy discussion related to our obvious unpatriotic tie to the “51st State” of Israel. That really has less to do with Jews per say, and more to do with the convenience of merging of “Old Testament” ideologies and power-bases of certain audiences, whether raptures, Bush and neo-cons imposing as if a way-of-life, what has become a very uncomfortable, un-American relation between American citizens and Israel right-wing. Can anyone explain why during the election process, the major newsbroadcasters (BBC, CNN etc..) transmitted in full, the live speeches of Hillary and Obama at AIPAC? It became normalized. No one asked about those speeches, i.e. why does Hillary Clinton know the names of Israeli soldiers “kidnapped” who should be released…(soldiers are captured by the way, not kidnapped) Why is she marching with their wives in NYC? Why are we even commenting on Jerusalem politics? Why is she discussing how textbooks introduce the term “nakba” and then she takes the right-wing, mostly unpopular position this term isn’t allowable. All in that one global speech. Etc… The situation became normalized with Rahm Emmanuel, who no matter what spin is going to be put, volunteered in Israel for his service during the Gulf War. And let’s not forget his father’s recent statements about dirty Arabs that NO one asked him to apologize for except finally the Arab-American groups.
The Neo-Cons were of course aligned with certain geopolitical realities, and Israel is working its way into Kurdistan, and oil pipelines are being directed to them, and the like, this is no secret news. But the neo-cons just institutionalized for their greed and corruption what was already in place. Now… the relation is “normalized” as the 51st State in principle.

“I think when this is all over, people are going to say that Barack Obama is the first Jewish president”–Abner Mikva, as quoted in: Pauline Dubkin Yearwood, OBAMA AND THE JEWS: A look at why some Jews love him and some don’t trust him; and at the key role Chicago Jews played in getting him to where he is, http://www.chicagojewishnews.com/story.htm?sid=212226&id=252218, (10/24/2008)

]]> By: Chocolate Jesus http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/17/tenet-neocons/comment-page-3/#comment-5386672 Chocolate Jesus Wed, 17 Dec 2008 23:16:35 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/17/tenet-neocons/#comment-5386672 >http://georgejtenet.com/TylerStatement.html Ah yes, so this guy Tenet had cronies following him around the entire visit, so as to be able to attest to what didnt happen for the entire trip...did they follow him to the bathroom too? How exactly is it that they know he didnt go to take a midnight dip in the pool? Did they sleep in the same room with him? So tell us, "tenetspokesman", is it a "slam-dunk" that Tenet didnt say this? hahaahhahahaah. liar... >http://georgejtenet.com/TylerStatement.html

Ah yes, so this guy Tenet had cronies following him around the entire visit, so as to be able to attest to what didnt happen for the entire trip…did they follow him to the bathroom too? How exactly is it that they know he didnt go to take a midnight dip in the pool? Did they sleep in the same room with him?

So tell us, “tenetspokesman”, is it a “slam-dunk” that Tenet didnt say this? hahaahhahahaah. liar…

]]> By: dbadass http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/17/tenet-neocons/comment-page-3/#comment-5386582 dbadass Wed, 17 Dec 2008 22:30:43 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/17/tenet-neocons/#comment-5386582 TenetSpokesman: Are you prepared to announce that the gentleman of such a serious position has never consumed excessive alcohol or abused sleeping pills? Thank you- TenetSpokesman:
Are you prepared to announce that the gentleman of such a serious position has never consumed excessive alcohol or abused sleeping pills?
Thank you-

]]> By: free-gaza-now http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/17/tenet-neocons/comment-page-3/#comment-5386556 free-gaza-now Wed, 17 Dec 2008 22:14:41 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/17/tenet-neocons/#comment-5386556 My problem is with those who are filled with hate, who believe everything they read at sites like infowars and information clearing house, where 99% of the comments blame the Jews on 9/11, the Iraq war, the financial crisis, their home team losing, etc, etc, ignorance is bliss especially from those whose minds are filled with hateful, agenda filled false rhetoric. ““““““““““““““““““““““““““““““` Sure... I wouldnt trust 75% of the things that come out of Alex Jones mouth. The guy is clearly a snake oil salesman. On the the other hand I dont believe 90% of the things Rachel Maddow says, or Brian Williams for that matter. The facts are the facts, PNAC is based on israeli policy from the mid-90's. Richard Perle was caught spying for Israel in the 70's, Larry Franklin in 05 i think? Who's to say all the "Scoop Jackson Dem's" arent passing information to AIPAC now. They are all neocons. It's clear that the Iraq war was for the sole beifit of Israel, and it's nieve to think AIPAC and the neocons arent connected at the hip. Why would you spy on an alli? I would suggest reading the Mearsheimer/Walt report and an by way of deception by Victor Otrovsy My problem is with those who are filled with hate, who believe everything they read at sites like infowars and information clearing house, where 99% of the comments blame the Jews on 9/11, the Iraq war, the financial crisis, their home team losing, etc, etc, ignorance is bliss especially from those whose minds are filled with hateful, agenda filled false rhetoric.

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Sure… I wouldnt trust 75% of the things that come out of Alex Jones mouth. The guy is clearly a snake oil salesman. On the the other hand I dont believe 90% of the things Rachel Maddow says, or Brian Williams for that matter. The facts are the facts, PNAC is based on israeli policy from the mid-90’s. Richard Perle was caught spying for Israel in the 70’s, Larry Franklin in 05 i think? Who’s to say all the “Scoop Jackson Dem’s” arent passing information to AIPAC now. They are all neocons. It’s clear that the Iraq war was for the sole beifit of Israel, and it’s nieve to think AIPAC and the neocons arent connected at the hip. Why would you spy on an alli? I would suggest reading the Mearsheimer/Walt report and an by way of deception by Victor Otrovsy

]]> By: TenetSpokesman http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/17/tenet-neocons/comment-page-3/#comment-5386530 TenetSpokesman Wed, 17 Dec 2008 22:06:08 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/17/tenet-neocons/#comment-5386530 George Tenet has issued a statement in response to Patrick Tyler's false allegations. It can be seen here: http://georgejtenet.com/TylerStatement.html In addition, Prince Bandar has also issued a statement today through a spokesman. It can be seen here: http://georgejtenet.com/BANDARSTATEMENT.html Abe Foxman of the ADL has also sent a reaction to The Atlantic A link to his statement is here: http://jeffreygoldberg.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/12/foxman_to_tenets_rescue.php George Tenet has issued a statement in response to Patrick Tyler’s false allegations. It can be seen here:

http://georgejtenet.com/TylerStatement.html

In addition, Prince Bandar has also issued a statement today through a spokesman. It can be seen here:

http://georgejtenet.com/BANDARSTATEMENT.html

Abe Foxman of the ADL has also sent a reaction to The Atlantic

A link to his statement is here:

http://jeffreygoldberg.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/12/foxman_to_tenets_rescue.php

]]> By: ElBruce http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/17/tenet-neocons/comment-page-3/#comment-5386464 ElBruce Wed, 17 Dec 2008 21:49:30 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/17/tenet-neocons/#comment-5386464 Everybody git the troll! Git 'im! No, he's running that way! No, over there! Git 'im! You git dat troll! Everybody git the troll! Git ‘im! No, he’s running that way! No, over there! Git ‘im! You git dat troll!

]]> By: Chocolate Jesus http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/17/tenet-neocons/comment-page-3/#comment-5386442 Chocolate Jesus Wed, 17 Dec 2008 21:39:10 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/17/tenet-neocons/#comment-5386442 >Extreme Moron is from Columbia!?! The only thing Columbian about Extreme Trajan is the coffe grounds he filters with his mothers pubic hair. >Extreme Moron is from Columbia!?!

The only thing Columbian about Extreme Trajan is
the coffe grounds he filters with his mothers pubic hair.

]]> By: Uncle Fester Lurks http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/17/tenet-neocons/comment-page-3/#comment-5386420 Uncle Fester Lurks Wed, 17 Dec 2008 21:27:57 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/17/tenet-neocons/#comment-5386420 dbadass Says: Hey Extreme Health: I hear Columbians are pussies… `````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` Extreme Moron is from Columbia!?! Well that explains everything! His brain has been rotted out from all of the cocaine he's been snorting. dbadass Says:

Hey Extreme Health:
I hear Columbians are pussies…
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Extreme Moron is from Columbia!?! Well that explains everything! His brain has been rotted out from all of the cocaine he’s been snorting.

]]> By: Uncle Fester Lurks http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/17/tenet-neocons/comment-page-3/#comment-5386416 Uncle Fester Lurks Wed, 17 Dec 2008 21:25:09 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/17/tenet-neocons/#comment-5386416 Now in saying what I said above I will add that I believe what Israel is doing to the Palestinians and visa versa is despicable and genocide, but I blame those in charge of each governments and their military not the poor citizens who get caught in the cross fire. Most Israeli and Palestinian people want to be left alone to live in peace. Now in saying what I said above I will add that I believe what Israel is doing to the Palestinians and visa versa is despicable and genocide, but I blame those in charge of each governments and their military not the poor citizens who get caught in the cross fire. Most Israeli and Palestinian people want to be left alone to live in peace.

]]> By: dbadass http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/17/tenet-neocons/comment-page-3/#comment-5386402 dbadass Wed, 17 Dec 2008 21:21:34 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/17/tenet-neocons/#comment-5386402 Hey Extreme Health: I hear Columbians are pussies... Hey Extreme Health:
I hear Columbians are pussies…

]]> By: Uncle Fester Lurks http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/17/tenet-neocons/comment-page-3/#comment-5386396 Uncle Fester Lurks Wed, 17 Dec 2008 21:20:36 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/17/tenet-neocons/#comment-5386396 free-gaza-now Says: Why do liberals have such a double standard when it comes to the Israeli issue? Just a question. ````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` I don't have any double standard when it comes to the Israeli issue, none at all. But I do not believe Israel had anything to do with us attacking Iraq. As for Perle, Wurmser, Kristol, Feith and Wolfowitz, may they all burn in hell along with Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice and Powell. My problem is with those who are filled with hate, who believe everything they read at sites like infowars and information clearing house, where 99% of the comments blame the Jews on 9/11, the Iraq war, the financial crisis, their home team losing, etc, etc, ignorance is bliss especially from those whose minds are filled with hateful, agenda filled false rhetoric. free-gaza-now Says:

Why do liberals have such a double standard when it comes to the Israeli issue? Just a question.
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I don’t have any double standard when it comes to the Israeli issue, none at all. But I do not believe Israel had anything to do with us attacking Iraq. As for Perle, Wurmser, Kristol, Feith and Wolfowitz, may they all burn in hell along with Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice and Powell.

My problem is with those who are filled with hate, who believe everything they read at sites like infowars and information clearing house, where 99% of the comments blame the Jews on 9/11, the Iraq war, the financial crisis, their home team losing, etc, etc, ignorance is bliss especially from those whose minds are filled with hateful, agenda filled false rhetoric.

]]> By: Uncle Fester Lurks http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/17/tenet-neocons/comment-page-3/#comment-5386376 Uncle Fester Lurks Wed, 17 Dec 2008 21:14:31 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/17/tenet-neocons/#comment-5386376 Extreme Moron...so which country are you from? Dumbphuckistan? And who the phuck is Chung Kuo? Extreme Moron…so which country are you from? Dumbphuckistan? And who the phuck is Chung Kuo?

]]> By: free-gaza-now http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/17/tenet-neocons/comment-page-3/#comment-5386352 free-gaza-now Wed, 17 Dec 2008 20:58:15 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/17/tenet-neocons/#comment-5386352 Why does everyone ignore the Israeli/neocon role in the Iraq debacle? Ya screw Bush and Cheney whatever, but why not screw Perle, Wurmser, and Kristol? Why do liberals have such a double standard when it comes to the Israeli issue? Just a question Why does everyone ignore the Israeli/neocon role in the Iraq debacle? Ya screw Bush and Cheney whatever, but why not screw Perle, Wurmser, and Kristol? Why do liberals have such a double standard when it comes to the Israeli issue? Just a question

]]> By: robertsgt40 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/17/tenet-neocons/comment-page-3/#comment-5386324 robertsgt40 Wed, 17 Dec 2008 20:43:47 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/17/tenet-neocons/#comment-5386324 Oops. Every dog has his day. I'll bet you wish you hadn't sold your soul. Eternity is a long time. I hope GT has a long life to reflect on his past.(SAME MESSAGE APPLIES TO GW AND DICK) Oops. Every dog has his day. I’ll bet you wish you hadn’t sold your soul. Eternity is a long time. I hope GT has a long life to reflect on his past.(SAME MESSAGE APPLIES TO GW AND DICK)

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