Comments on: Report: White vigilante groups blockaded small town in post-Katrina New Orleans and murdered blacks. http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/20/the-nation-katrina/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 00:50:16 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: anne62 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/20/the-nation-katrina/comment-page-2/#comment-5395048 anne62 Wed, 24 Dec 2008 01:50:30 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/20/the-nation-katrina/#comment-5395048 " I see lots of ignorant posters on this site.People who see only the racism involved. There was a reason that blacks were being feared and targeted. They were thugs who deserved what they got. Unfortunately some innocents got caught in the crossfire. I had a friend in Baton Rouge had to sit on his porch with a shotgun because undefended houses were being sacked and women raped." Are you for real ?? What are you talking about " There was a reason that blacks were being feared and targeted. " It doesn't look like they had any guns or maybe a few " innocent white men " would have been fired on back. You make me sick to call myself white. The only ignorant poster on this site so far is YOU. ” I see lots of ignorant posters on this site.People who see only the racism involved. There was a reason that blacks were being feared and targeted. They were thugs who deserved what they got. Unfortunately some innocents got caught in the crossfire. I had a friend in Baton Rouge had to sit on his porch with a shotgun because undefended houses were being sacked and women raped.”

Are you for real ?? What are you talking about ” There was a reason that blacks were being feared and targeted. ” It doesn’t look like they had any guns or maybe a few ” innocent white men ” would have been fired on back. You make me sick to call myself white. The only ignorant poster on this site so far is YOU.

]]> By: trailok http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/20/the-nation-katrina/comment-page-2/#comment-5393092 trailok Mon, 22 Dec 2008 20:52:45 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/20/the-nation-katrina/#comment-5393092 I see lots of ignorant posters on this site.People who see only the racism involved. There was a reason that blacks were being feared and targeted. They were thugs who deserved what they got. Unfortunately some innocents got caught in the crossfire. I had a friend in Baton Rouge had to sit on his porch with a shotgun because undefended houses were being sacked and women raped. I see lots of ignorant posters on this site.People who see only the racism involved. There was a reason that blacks were being feared and targeted. They were thugs who deserved what they got. Unfortunately some innocents got caught in the crossfire. I had a friend in Baton Rouge had to sit on his porch with a shotgun because undefended houses were being sacked and women raped.

]]> By: trailok http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/20/the-nation-katrina/comment-page-2/#comment-5393084 trailok Mon, 22 Dec 2008 20:50:42 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/20/the-nation-katrina/#comment-5393084 Ok, so maybe they should be prosecuted. But who is going to prosecute all the looters that drove these people to fear and irrational behavior? What about all the rapes, thefts, and food hording that young black men committed when the US was trying to save lives? Ok, so maybe they should be prosecuted. But who is going to prosecute all the looters that drove these people to fear and irrational behavior? What about all the rapes, thefts, and food hording that young black men committed when the US was trying to save lives?

]]> By: EugeneDebs http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/20/the-nation-katrina/comment-page-2/#comment-5392296 EugeneDebs Mon, 22 Dec 2008 05:31:48 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/20/the-nation-katrina/#comment-5392296 Proud and Wilbur you ignorant racist pieces of TRASH. I cant belive how disgusting you are. They said IF IT MOVED WE SHOT IT. That isnt self defense you ignorant PUNKS. You dont deserve to breathe the air of decent people. You are wasting oxygen that a higher life form could be using. Stop your racist appologetics and your total lack of decency. Proud and Wilbur you ignorant racist pieces of TRASH. I cant belive how disgusting you are. They said IF IT MOVED WE SHOT IT. That isnt self defense you ignorant PUNKS. You dont deserve to breathe the air of decent people. You are wasting oxygen that a higher life form could be using. Stop your racist appologetics and your total lack of decency.

]]> By: EugeneDebs http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/20/the-nation-katrina/comment-page-2/#comment-5392290 EugeneDebs Mon, 22 Dec 2008 05:26:04 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/20/the-nation-katrina/#comment-5392290 Proud Says: Oh my GOD you disgusting racist piece of human debris. You disgust human beings everywhere. There was no self defense did you read the story CAN YOU READ? If it moves shoot it. I cant believe you ignorant racist morons are even human. Please turn in your oxygen users permit, stop identifying as a human being as you are an embarassment to ACTUAL humans. Take your little pistol into the next room and do the right thing. MOST importantly do the world a HUGE favor and DO. NOT. BREED. Proud Says:

Oh my GOD you disgusting racist piece of human debris. You disgust human beings everywhere. There was no self defense did you read the story CAN YOU READ? If it moves shoot it. I cant believe you ignorant racist morons are even human. Please turn in your oxygen users permit, stop identifying as a human being as you are an embarassment to ACTUAL humans. Take your little pistol into the next room and do the right thing. MOST importantly do the world a HUGE favor and DO. NOT. BREED.

]]> By: lafdragon http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/20/the-nation-katrina/comment-page-2/#comment-5392266 lafdragon Mon, 22 Dec 2008 04:21:13 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/20/the-nation-katrina/#comment-5392266 Sadly, an old, old story. The horror of it lies in the fact that such people as these still inhabit the world. We must never forget that along with the potential for great good, we as creatures still possess the inclination toward evil thoughts and deeds. To bring such people to justice must be a priority if the species is to advance in wisdom and compassion. And all of us must remain vigilant in our awareness of the seeds of such thought and behavior in ourselves, and seek to provide comfort and aid to the persecuted. Sadly, an old, old story. The horror of it lies in the fact that such people as these still inhabit the world. We must never forget that along with the potential for great good, we as creatures still possess the inclination toward evil thoughts and deeds. To bring such people to justice must be a priority if the species is to advance in wisdom and compassion. And all of us must remain vigilant in our awareness of the seeds of such thought and behavior in ourselves, and seek to provide comfort and aid to the persecuted.

]]> By: jb http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/20/the-nation-katrina/comment-page-2/#comment-5392000 jb Sun, 21 Dec 2008 20:38:01 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/20/the-nation-katrina/#comment-5392000 Somebody should have shot back at these law breakers. Somebody should have shot back at these law breakers.

]]> By: tombaker http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/20/the-nation-katrina/comment-page-2/#comment-5391918 tombaker Sun, 21 Dec 2008 19:11:33 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/20/the-nation-katrina/#comment-5391918 What say you, Willlllburrr? Should the families of those shot get a green light to exact their own private justice?? If not, why not? What say you, Willlllburrr?

Should the families of those shot get a green light to exact their own private justice??

If not, why not?

]]> By: tombaker http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/20/the-nation-katrina/comment-page-2/#comment-5391912 tombaker Sun, 21 Dec 2008 19:09:57 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/20/the-nation-katrina/#comment-5391912 perhaps those "brave" fellers will receive some 9mm thank-you notes from their "fans" down in that area. I'm sure Mr. Proud would think that fitting. wouldn't ya, pal - when someone shoots yer kin, and the cops don't come get'em, you can shoot'em yerself, right?!? i'd just as soon see their pathetic asses dragged before a jury, then put away in the can together with the cousins of those they shot. perhaps those “brave” fellers will receive some 9mm thank-you notes from their “fans” down in that area. I’m sure Mr. Proud would think that fitting. wouldn’t ya, pal – when someone shoots yer kin, and the cops don’t come get’em, you can shoot’em yerself, right?!?

i’d just as soon see their pathetic asses dragged before a jury, then put away in the can together with the cousins of those they shot.

]]> By: ucsbclassics53 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/20/the-nation-katrina/comment-page-2/#comment-5391890 ucsbclassics53 Sun, 21 Dec 2008 18:57:23 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/20/the-nation-katrina/#comment-5391890 I mean the vigilantes... I mean the vigilantes…

]]> By: ucsbclassics53 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/20/the-nation-katrina/comment-page-2/#comment-5391888 ucsbclassics53 Sun, 21 Dec 2008 18:53:01 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/20/the-nation-katrina/#comment-5391888 gee, Tell that to the guy who stripped a dead body of a shirt and used it as a trophy...and tell that to the guy who commented about how it was like "pheasant season..." Once you dehumanize the so-called other, it becomes easy to justify crimes like this, because you have your mind already made up that everyone whose skin color does not match yours is a looter... gee, Tell that to the guy who stripped a dead body of a shirt and used it as a trophy…and tell that to the guy who commented about how it was like “pheasant season…”

Once you dehumanize the so-called other, it becomes easy to justify crimes like this, because you have your mind already made up that everyone whose skin color does not match yours is a looter…

]]> By: willbur60 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/20/the-nation-katrina/comment-page-2/#comment-5391886 willbur60 Sun, 21 Dec 2008 18:48:49 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/20/the-nation-katrina/#comment-5391886 when law and order has broken down, then it is natural and tolerated that communities will come together and protect their own. These "racist neanderthal, cracker whatevers " as they are called have a God given right to protect themselves. This is why there is no investigation. The entire area was in a state of chaos and violence. That people were over zealous, of course, they would be human. Do I beleive those tgree men were innocently walking by? of course not. By the way, the "racist: were not out "hunting" black people, they were patrolling their neighborhoods.Parameters were established. Tough actions for tough times.I would always come down on the side of self defense. when law and order has broken down, then it is natural and tolerated that communities will come together and protect their own. These “racist neanderthal, cracker whatevers ” as they are called have a God given right to protect themselves. This is why there is no investigation. The entire area was in a state of chaos and violence. That people were over zealous, of course, they would be human. Do I beleive those tgree men were innocently walking by? of course not. By the way, the “racist: were not out “hunting” black people, they were patrolling their neighborhoods.Parameters were established. Tough actions for tough times.I would always come down on the side of self defense.

]]> By: jb http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/20/the-nation-katrina/comment-page-2/#comment-5391842 jb Sun, 21 Dec 2008 18:01:54 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/20/the-nation-katrina/#comment-5391842 Shooting innocent people trying to reach dry ground is not protecting one's home. It is attempted murder. Shooting innocent people trying to reach dry ground is not protecting one’s home. It is attempted murder.

]]> By: karela http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/20/the-nation-katrina/comment-page-2/#comment-5391786 karela Sun, 21 Dec 2008 16:53:50 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/20/the-nation-katrina/#comment-5391786 Wiley--- This is an appalling story. These people should be prosecuted and no excuses. If they had been inside their homes and someone tried to break in, I would support self protection. But they had taken to the streets and were hunting colored skin to attack just for the crime of living. But. Trying to pretend that all black people only took food and water when they looted is not helpful. There were videos of people carrying off TVs and other non edibles. I sat next to a twelve year old AA girl on a plane trip who fussed that her Mama said she wasn't old enough to go looting but was mollified because her brother promised to bring her some good stuff. Blacks and others have been guilty of looting for fun and profit. These white people are definitely guilty of murder and assault. Pretending is pretending. The black people in this story were not looting and these white people were not protecting their property. But we need to be honest about everything if we expect people to listen when we speak. These people must be prosecuted. And looting must also not be tolerated. They are not equal crimes, but they are both crimes that make the other side livid with anger and rage and they both further racial divides. Wiley—
This is an appalling story. These people should be prosecuted and no excuses. If they had been inside their homes and someone tried to break in, I would support self protection. But they had taken to the streets and were hunting colored skin to attack just for the crime of living.
But. Trying to pretend that all black people only took food and water when they looted is not helpful. There were videos of people carrying off TVs and other non edibles. I sat next to a twelve year old AA girl on a plane trip who fussed that her Mama said she wasn’t old enough to go looting but was mollified because her brother promised to bring her some good stuff. Blacks and others have been guilty of looting for fun and profit. These white people are definitely guilty of murder and assault. Pretending is pretending. The black people in this story were not looting and these white people were not protecting their property. But we need to be honest about everything if we expect people to listen when we speak. These people must be prosecuted. And looting must also not be tolerated. They are not equal crimes, but they are both crimes that make the other side livid with anger and rage and they both further racial divides.

]]> By: capbesta http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/20/the-nation-katrina/comment-page-2/#comment-5391784 capbesta Sun, 21 Dec 2008 16:51:17 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/20/the-nation-katrina/#comment-5391784 ProudandWilbur60..I am assuming you are a white racist diseased southerner like so many of you all are.. if you choose to call it vigilantism, that's your choice of words. I call it defending the black race against bloodclaat white racists oppressors and conservatives like yourself. Take your white Neanderthral self back to the caves of Europe...you white racist dogs..your racism is a mental disease. Obama is your president now,I hope he takes all your guns away!! I hope he removes more restrictions from abortion so your population keeps decreasing too!!! He he..You bloodclaat scumbag! ProudandWilbur60..I am assuming you are a white racist diseased southerner like so many of you all are.. if you choose to call it vigilantism, that’s your choice of words. I call it defending the black race against bloodclaat white racists oppressors and conservatives like yourself. Take your white Neanderthral self back to the caves of Europe…you white racist dogs..your racism is a mental disease. Obama is your president now,I hope he takes all your guns away!! I hope he removes more restrictions from abortion so your population keeps decreasing too!!! He he..You bloodclaat scumbag!

]]> By: exNOLAresident http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/20/the-nation-katrina/comment-page-2/#comment-5391754 exNOLAresident Sun, 21 Dec 2008 16:24:29 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/20/the-nation-katrina/#comment-5391754 As a life-long resident of South Louisiana and an ex-resident of NOLA, I offer these facts as I see them: Louisiana is a poverty-stricken state, the major industry in New Orleans is crime, there is no tax base down there and <strong>above all</strong>, and if you look in the dictionary for meteorologically and geographically disadvantaged, you will find a picture of New Orleans there. I tell everyone I meet, New Orleans is a very, very BAD place; don't ever go there, not even for 5 minutes. Just don't go there. I have very little hope or faith for NOLA...........it just is what it is. As a life-long resident of South Louisiana and an ex-resident of NOLA, I offer these facts as I see them: Louisiana is a poverty-stricken state, the major industry in New Orleans is crime, there is no tax base down there and above all, and if you look in the dictionary for meteorologically and geographically disadvantaged, you will find a picture of New Orleans there. I tell everyone I meet, New Orleans is a very, very BAD place; don’t ever go there, not even for 5 minutes. Just don’t go there. I have very little hope or faith for NOLA………..it just is what it is.

]]> By: Cal Malenky http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/20/the-nation-katrina/comment-page-2/#comment-5391732 Cal Malenky Sun, 21 Dec 2008 16:06:18 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/20/the-nation-katrina/#comment-5391732 Proud and Wilbur60: You'll be more comfortable at Redstate or Powerline where you can find other people who agree with your vigilantism. Proud and Wilbur60:
You’ll be more comfortable at Redstate or Powerline where you can find other people who agree with your vigilantism.

]]> By: capbesta http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/20/the-nation-katrina/comment-page-2/#comment-5391726 capbesta Sun, 21 Dec 2008 16:01:35 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/20/the-nation-katrina/#comment-5391726 I am a black american citizen of Jamaican descent. Where are the real black men? Why didn't they go to the store to buy guns? Why didn't they have guns stored in their homes? Instead of using guns to kill your own people, why didn't we stockpile our guns and use them to kill the white people shooting at us? Black men you have to stand up for your rights and stop turning the other cheek at your oppressors. The message here: Arm yourself, stockpile guns and shoot back at white men. They don't give a damn..Why should we? I am a black american citizen of Jamaican descent. Where are the real black men? Why didn’t they go to the store to buy guns? Why didn’t they have guns stored in their homes? Instead of using guns to kill your own people, why didn’t we stockpile our guns and use them to kill the white people shooting at us? Black men you have to stand up for your rights and stop turning the other cheek at your oppressors. The message here: Arm yourself, stockpile guns and shoot back at white men. They don’t give a damn..Why should we?

]]> By: Henk http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/20/the-nation-katrina/comment-page-2/#comment-5391714 Henk Sun, 21 Dec 2008 15:35:47 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/20/the-nation-katrina/#comment-5391714 Willbur could you provide us with some of those "documented acts of looting"? Other than people "stealing" water and such, or are people supposed to die of thirst or drink tainted water to satisfy your need for "civility?" Willbur could you provide us with some of those “documented acts of looting”? Other than people “stealing” water and such, or are people supposed to die of thirst or drink tainted water to satisfy your need for “civility?”

]]> By: willbur60 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/20/the-nation-katrina/comment-page-2/#comment-5391708 willbur60 Sun, 21 Dec 2008 15:17:48 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/20/the-nation-katrina/#comment-5391708 oh please , here we go with a good old fashion feel good session of those nasty ol racist. These people were in fact cofined to their neighborhoods and the "victims", were in fact in an area of high , and documented acts of looting and vandalism. So, yes they were shot at and shot. I applaud any American that has the fortitude to stand up and protect life and property in times of lawlessness and chaos. oh please , here we go with a good old fashion feel good session of those nasty ol racist. These people were in fact cofined to their neighborhoods and the “victims”, were in fact in an area of high , and documented acts of looting and vandalism. So, yes they were shot at and shot. I applaud any American that has the fortitude to stand up and protect life and property in times of lawlessness and chaos.

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