Comments on: Cheney: We Asked If We Needed Approval For Wiretapping, Congress Told Us ‘Absolutely Not’

By: Lish

Lish — Tue, 23 Dec 2008 23:13:49 +0000

Doesn’t it seem most likely that they’re all lying?

Cheney tells Reid and Pelosi as little as possible, if that.

The Dems just mumble about how it better not be illegal.

Cheney assures them he’s got the DOJ backing him up.

The Dems can easily prove me wrong:

Arrest the SOB and charge him with treason.

By: zuch

zuch — Tue, 23 Dec 2008 13:16:59 +0000

Even if true, it wouldn’t matter if the Gang of Eight said, “Yeah, OK, keep up the good work.”

They have no power to pass or ‘revise’ statutory law unilaterally. Nor does FISA give their assent any legal weight.

Cheers,

By: AlexLawyer

AlexLawyer — Tue, 23 Dec 2008 08:36:31 +0000

One of the great tragedies of Obama’s, and the majority of congressional Democrats’, disinclination to investigate and prosecute serious human rights violations in the “war on terror” is that we lose the moral standing to denounce violations elsewhere. Because we will not acknowledge the humanity and the suffering of the victims, uphold the legitimacy of law by enforcing it, signal our friends that we share their norms of decency and our potential enemies that we understand their grievances and have truly changed, uphold the honor of the Nuremberg and other tribunals by continuing the tradition when our own citizens are the defendants, and seek to deter future wrongdoing by US officials, we must perforce cede the high moral ground to more civilized nations and sit in stony silence or reveal ourselves as hypocrites by speaking.

By: EugeneDebs

EugeneDebs — Tue, 23 Dec 2008 06:17:20 +0000

No he is NOT telling the truth. They ASKED for this type of power when getting the AUF passed and were told NO it would never pass Congress. As for Rockefeller and Pelosi knowing YES they were informed but in a classified meeting they COULDNT reveal it as that would be illegal. Both said from the very beggining that they told Bush it was wrong. I am STILL mad at Obama for voting for the telecom immunity.

By: AlexLawyer

AlexLawyer — Tue, 23 Dec 2008 04:42:57 +0000

Cheney is an inveterate liar, but I think he’s telling the truth here. We already know that Pelosi and Rockefeller knew about and approved torture and lied about it afterwards. Harman allegedly expressed some reservations but did nothing to stop it. And even Obama voted for giving immunity to telecoms companies for violating Americans’ constitutional rights, and is disinclined to investigate and prosecute the abuses.

The horrifying, nearly fascist turn taken by our government in the past 8 years may have been directed by Bush and Cheney, but it wouldn’t have been possible without the gleeful support of the Republicans and the more tacit support, or at best craven inaction, of the Democrats.

By: Brain From Planet Arous

Brain From Planet Arous — Tue, 23 Dec 2008 00:01:38 +0000

Obama voted to give the telecoms more surveillance power, in case you all forgot.

CHANGE!!!!

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=110&session=2&vote=00168

By: roscoe

roscoe — Mon, 22 Dec 2008 21:09:44 +0000

Darth Cheney may wish to save these comments for his war crimes tribunal. Where can we sign up to get the rope, build the gallows, pull the lever, etc. to hang this pile of pig excrement? If only we could all have true justice.

By: wolfsinger

wolfsinger — Mon, 22 Dec 2008 21:02:47 +0000

49erDem Says:

“I don’t think Cheney is off the hook just yet.”

With every fiber of my being, I hope you are right.

By: shawnfassett

shawnfassett — Mon, 22 Dec 2008 19:53:46 +0000

He’s the worst liar. You wouldn’t ask Congress, you would ask the Justice Department (and notify, at the very least, the Judiciary Committees)

By: MapleStreet

MapleStreet — Mon, 22 Dec 2008 19:25:29 +0000

Are you implying that in the briefing, the WH may have left out some pertinent facts (such as instead of baking a pound cake, they were really gonna spy on domestic targets) ???

I’m shocked you would imply such a thing.

And to be clear, if they told Congress that they were gonna bake a pound cake, and no one objected, silence implies consent.

Right ?

By: 49erDem

49erDem — Mon, 22 Dec 2008 18:59:13 +0000

I don’t think “Pelosi and Reid have Cheney’s back” is accurate. We’ll see. Pelosi got a lot of press for that statement, but somehow they absentmindedly forgot to report that Pelosi also said, “if there are consitutional crimes that have been committed, we’ll look into them and take action.” Keep in mind that Pelosi and Reid have stronger majorities now and a new boss. I don’t think Cheney is off the hook just yet.

By: wolfsinger

wolfsinger — Mon, 22 Dec 2008 18:15:45 +0000

Safe to Watch His Fires Burn!

By: wolfsinger

wolfsinger — Mon, 22 Dec 2008 18:14:12 +0000

49erDem Says:

It seems to me that Cheney is attempting to provoke Dems into bringing charges against him for constitutional crimes quickly so that Bush can pardon him before he leaves office.

That’s what I thought at first, too! Kinda like a serial arsonist. Returning to watch his fires burn while basking in the twisted sexual deviance of his crime.

But, I don’t think so now. Pelosi and Reid have Cheney’s back. W’s & Roves, too. After all, Pelosi and Reid say accountability is “Off-The-Table”. And it has been.

Cheney’s safe to rewrite history as long as those two are in power.

By: RUCerious

RUCerious — Mon, 22 Dec 2008 18:12:54 +0000

The revisionist history book continues to be written. In invisible ink, of course. We’d have to kill you otherwise.

By: 49erDem

49erDem — Mon, 22 Dec 2008 18:00:47 +0000

It seems to me that Cheney is attempting to provoke Dems into bringing charges against him for constitutional crimes quickly so that Bush can pardon him before he leaves office.

By: sacopenapa

sacopenapa — Mon, 22 Dec 2008 17:59:31 +0000

When will this fat facist pig get arrested???? What is going on in the USA?????????!!!!!! This criminal should be behind barrs waiting for his trial and executuion!

By: wolfsinger

wolfsinger — Mon, 22 Dec 2008 17:51:19 +0000

Rove’s rewriting of history via Cheney is happening in earnest.

Whether Cheney is telling the truth or Pelosi is, it doesn’t matter. Why? Because Cheney knows only one thing. That NO MATTER what he says, the Dems led by Pelosi and Reid will NOT consider much less act on holding BushCo accountable….Ever! It’s never gonna happen with Reid and Pelosi in charge.

Armed with this “protection” Cheney can continue to tell the American people and the Constitution to go to hell. Controlling the past in order to control the future. No one to stop him.

Again, WHEN are we going to call for the ouster of the countries worst “conspirators”?

By: ElBruce

ElBruce — Mon, 22 Dec 2008 17:38:44 +0000

You know what’s funny – in a closed meeting even if Congressional leaders did tell him he didn’t need legislative changes to conduct warrantless wiretapping, that still wouldn’t change the fact that warrantless wiretapping was and is illegal.

You either follow the law as it reads, or you don’t. Knowing the laws you’re supposed to follow is your job, not someone else’s.

A judge’s response to this argument should be “well, I guess Pelosi sure punked you, ‘cuz now you’re going to JAIL!”

By: darladooner

darladooner — Mon, 22 Dec 2008 17:08:13 +0000

key words:

“it will reveal to the enemy how we are reading their mail.”

in other words, the manner in which we are reading “their” mail (which could mean ANYONE’s mail), does not fall within the confines of the law.

By: LiberalVoter

LiberalVoter — Mon, 22 Dec 2008 17:06:47 +0000

Cheney: Constitution? What the F— is that? Little people don’t need rights. We know what is best for them.

I hope Pelosi doesn’t break a nail picking up that pencil. Oooo, look out for paper cuts too. Heaven forbid she would uphold the OATH SHE SWORE TO UPHOLD AND PROTECT THE CONSTITUTION! GET A GOD DAMN SPINE AND DO THE JOB YOU WERE ELECTED TO DO!

But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.