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	<title>Comments on: Rove Mocks Infrastructure Spending As &#8216;Goofy Pie-In-The-Sky Spending Ideas&#8217;</title>
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		<title>By: Yankeluh</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/24/rove-infrastructure-pie/comment-page-2/#comment-5396778</link>
		<dc:creator>Yankeluh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Dec 2008 23:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What really gets me about this fat fork is that some of my friends who I consider to be reasonable republicans actually think this guy is brilliant.  I guess I have to redefine either reasonable or brilliant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What really gets me about this fat fork is that some of my friends who I consider to be reasonable republicans actually think this guy is brilliant.  I guess I have to redefine either reasonable or brilliant.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5396778', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: DwH</title>
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		<dc:creator>DwH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Dec 2008 20:18:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shut up, shut up, shut up, you fat excuse for a pig.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shut up, shut up, shut up, you fat excuse for a pig.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5396252', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: mknowles</title>
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		<dc:creator>mknowles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Dec 2008 15:40:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe Karl Rove and the Republicans have something else in mind. Here&#039;s an excerpt from a Reuters article, August 3, 2008, &quot;Wall St. to privatize U.S. Infrastructure&quot;:
&lt;blockquote&gt;The latest enthusiasm for at least partially privatizing infrastructure assets came on July 30 from New York Gov. David Paterson, who is trying to plug a budget deficit caused in part by lower tax revenue as Wall Street retrenches.

&quot;We&#039;re just looking at ways to be more efficient and that&#039;s why I used the term public-private partnerships -- trying to find some creative solutions,&quot; Paterson said. &quot;The reason I&#039;m avoiding taxes is because I think taxes are addictive.&quot;

Bankers and others in the industry say there is pent-up demand from dedicated infrastructure funds and public pension funds to invest in hard assets -- perhaps $75 billion to $150 billion of equity capital -- but not enough supply.

&quot;Economic conditions are tough, and are going to be very harsh on the performance of state budgets in 2008 and 2009,&quot; said Greg Carey, co-head of infrastructure banking at Goldman Sachs Group Inc (GS.N: Quote, Profile, Research, Stock Buzz). &quot;States are looking for long-term solutions in running businesses. A public-private partnership is a tool in their toolboxes.&quot;

...For Wall Street, infrastructure can be a bright spot at a time of deep job cuts and expected declines in bonuses.

&quot;We&#039;ve seen an unprecedented number of headhunters recruiting for positions on the buy and sell sides,&quot; said Rob Collins, head of Americas infrastructure banking at Morgan Stanley (MS.N: Quote, Profile, Research, Stock Buzz). &quot;Infrastructure investing can be counter-cyclical to economic trends.&quot;

John Ma, the other Goldman infrastructure chief, added: &quot;We&#039;re very committed to this space. Our business activity has increased dramatically, even this year.&quot;

...ALTERNATIVE TO TAX HIKES

According to the nonprofit Center on Budget and Policy Priorities, 29 U.S. states plus the District of Columbia may face a combined $48 billion of budget deficits in fiscal 2009.

But politicians might be loathe to cut spending or raise taxes at a time mortgage debt, $4-a-gallon gas and rising food prices leave consumers -- of whom many vote -- dispirited. Tapping public debt markets might also be too costly.

...Critics say some infrastructure transactions are short-term budget fixes that deprive governments of steady cash streams from taxpayer-funded assets. There is also the risk that private operators won&#039;t do their jobs well.

Advocates of privatization say entities might do better managing assets than a government answering to voters.

Politicians could also get a boost if they can take credit for reinvesting sale or lease proceeds in needed projects.

&quot;The argument for a public-private partnership is the private sector is a lot smarter about paying attention to costs, and because it has skin in the game will be more attentive to maintaining an asset over its life,&quot; said Joseph Giglio, a privatization expert and professor at Northeastern University&#039;s College of Business Administration in Boston.

&quot;Elected officials often shortchange funding of maintenance because they don&#039;t want to increase user fees or taxes to pay for it,&quot; Giglio added. &quot;Their election cycle is four years. They can pass it on to someone else&#039;s watch.&quot;

Collins, who also advised Pennsylvania on the turnpike, said infrastructure can also go beyond roads and airports. He said Morgan Stanley is advising Akron, Ohio, on exploring the leasing of its wastewater system, and Indiana on the possibility of private management for its state lottery.

&quot;Lotteries have infrastructure characteristics in that they have stable cash flows and high barriers to entry,&quot; he said. &quot;They could even attract private equity investment because they are self-financeable and require minimal capital expenses.&quot;

...At Goldman, Carey and Ma replaced Mark Florian, who is moving to First Reserve Corp, a private equity firm specializing in energy, a person close to the matter said.

Goldman itself raised a $6.5 billion infrastructure fund in 2006, and is reportedly trying to raise a $7.5 billion fund.

Morgan Stanley raised a $4 billion fund in May. Global Infrastructure Partners, a joint venture between Credit Suisse Group AG (CSGN.VX: Quote, Profile, Research, Stock Buzz) and General Electric Co (GE.N: Quote, Profile, Research, Stock Buzz), raised a $5.6 billion fund the same month. Private equity firm Carlyle Group CYL.UL last year raised a $1.15 billion fund.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&amp;aid=9736&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&amp;aid=9736&lt;/a&gt;
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I think it would be a big mistake to allow the same folks, like Goldman Sacks-USA, who are responsible for the current economic crisis to start buying up and controlling U.S. infrastructure. This is another step toward transferring control of U.S. assets into private hands. And where will companies like Goldman Sacks-USA get the money to do this? U.S. taxpayers? TARP? I have tried to bring this issue up with my political reps, so far, none have stated where they stand on the issue of whether or not to privatize U.S. infrastructure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe Karl Rove and the Republicans have something else in mind. Here&#8217;s an excerpt from a Reuters article, August 3, 2008, &#8220;Wall St. to privatize U.S. Infrastructure&#8221;:</p>
<blockquote><p>The latest enthusiasm for at least partially privatizing infrastructure assets came on July 30 from New York Gov. David Paterson, who is trying to plug a budget deficit caused in part by lower tax revenue as Wall Street retrenches.</p>
<p>&#8220;We&#8217;re just looking at ways to be more efficient and that&#8217;s why I used the term public-private partnerships &#8212; trying to find some creative solutions,&#8221; Paterson said. &#8220;The reason I&#8217;m avoiding taxes is because I think taxes are addictive.&#8221;</p>
<p>Bankers and others in the industry say there is pent-up demand from dedicated infrastructure funds and public pension funds to invest in hard assets &#8212; perhaps $75 billion to $150 billion of equity capital &#8212; but not enough supply.</p>
<p>&#8220;Economic conditions are tough, and are going to be very harsh on the performance of state budgets in 2008 and 2009,&#8221; said Greg Carey, co-head of infrastructure banking at Goldman Sachs Group Inc (GS.N: Quote, Profile, Research, Stock Buzz). &#8220;States are looking for long-term solutions in running businesses. A public-private partnership is a tool in their toolboxes.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8230;For Wall Street, infrastructure can be a bright spot at a time of deep job cuts and expected declines in bonuses.</p>
<p>&#8220;We&#8217;ve seen an unprecedented number of headhunters recruiting for positions on the buy and sell sides,&#8221; said Rob Collins, head of Americas infrastructure banking at Morgan Stanley (MS.N: Quote, Profile, Research, Stock Buzz). &#8220;Infrastructure investing can be counter-cyclical to economic trends.&#8221;</p>
<p>John Ma, the other Goldman infrastructure chief, added: &#8220;We&#8217;re very committed to this space. Our business activity has increased dramatically, even this year.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8230;ALTERNATIVE TO TAX HIKES</p>
<p>According to the nonprofit Center on Budget and Policy Priorities, 29 U.S. states plus the District of Columbia may face a combined $48 billion of budget deficits in fiscal 2009.</p>
<p>But politicians might be loathe to cut spending or raise taxes at a time mortgage debt, $4-a-gallon gas and rising food prices leave consumers &#8212; of whom many vote &#8212; dispirited. Tapping public debt markets might also be too costly.</p>
<p>&#8230;Critics say some infrastructure transactions are short-term budget fixes that deprive governments of steady cash streams from taxpayer-funded assets. There is also the risk that private operators won&#8217;t do their jobs well.</p>
<p>Advocates of privatization say entities might do better managing assets than a government answering to voters.</p>
<p>Politicians could also get a boost if they can take credit for reinvesting sale or lease proceeds in needed projects.</p>
<p>&#8220;The argument for a public-private partnership is the private sector is a lot smarter about paying attention to costs, and because it has skin in the game will be more attentive to maintaining an asset over its life,&#8221; said Joseph Giglio, a privatization expert and professor at Northeastern University&#8217;s College of Business Administration in Boston.</p>
<p>&#8220;Elected officials often shortchange funding of maintenance because they don&#8217;t want to increase user fees or taxes to pay for it,&#8221; Giglio added. &#8220;Their election cycle is four years. They can pass it on to someone else&#8217;s watch.&#8221;</p>
<p>Collins, who also advised Pennsylvania on the turnpike, said infrastructure can also go beyond roads and airports. He said Morgan Stanley is advising Akron, Ohio, on exploring the leasing of its wastewater system, and Indiana on the possibility of private management for its state lottery.</p>
<p>&#8220;Lotteries have infrastructure characteristics in that they have stable cash flows and high barriers to entry,&#8221; he said. &#8220;They could even attract private equity investment because they are self-financeable and require minimal capital expenses.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8230;At Goldman, Carey and Ma replaced Mark Florian, who is moving to First Reserve Corp, a private equity firm specializing in energy, a person close to the matter said.</p>
<p>Goldman itself raised a $6.5 billion infrastructure fund in 2006, and is reportedly trying to raise a $7.5 billion fund.</p>
<p>Morgan Stanley raised a $4 billion fund in May. Global Infrastructure Partners, a joint venture between Credit Suisse Group AG (CSGN.VX: Quote, Profile, Research, Stock Buzz) and General Electric Co (GE.N: Quote, Profile, Research, Stock Buzz), raised a $5.6 billion fund the same month. Private equity firm Carlyle Group CYL.UL last year raised a $1.15 billion fund.</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&amp;aid=9736" rel="nofollow">http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&amp;aid=9736</a><br />
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I think it would be a big mistake to allow the same folks, like Goldman Sacks-USA, who are responsible for the current economic crisis to start buying up and controlling U.S. infrastructure. This is another step toward transferring control of U.S. assets into private hands. And where will companies like Goldman Sacks-USA get the money to do this? U.S. taxpayers? TARP? I have tried to bring this issue up with my political reps, so far, none have stated where they stand on the issue of whether or not to privatize U.S. infrastructure.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5396092', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Johnsnottoodistracted</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/24/rove-infrastructure-pie/comment-page-2/#comment-5396028</link>
		<dc:creator>Johnsnottoodistracted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Dec 2008 03:17:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hasn&#039;t roveroolala been banned from all media access?
When it appears the cred level goes to zero immediately. After 30 seconds of its drool they zero-out any future cred.
Since when do media allow exposure to failure?
Oh, maybe the media is owned by its boss.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hasn&#8217;t roveroolala been banned from all media access?<br />
When it appears the cred level goes to zero immediately. After 30 seconds of its drool they zero-out any future cred.<br />
Since when do media allow exposure to failure?<br />
Oh, maybe the media is owned by its boss.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5396028', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Presto</title>
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		<dc:creator>Presto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 21:01:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s amazing.  Karl Rove opened his mouth and stupid ideas came out.  Whether or not he believes his own lies is quite another matter, but it certainly shouldn&#039;t concern anyone of real intelligence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s amazing.  Karl Rove opened his mouth and stupid ideas came out.  Whether or not he believes his own lies is quite another matter, but it certainly shouldn&#8217;t concern anyone of real intelligence.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5395924', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: biggreenpea</title>
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		<dc:creator>biggreenpea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 20:31:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this really gets me worked up every time i read rove&#039;s words.  one day on oprah she had michael moore, a &quot;liberalish&quot; professor, some other guy, and a woman rep from the insurance industry (she was very nice and sweet).

at a certain point in their discussion she used the idea that the approach they call socialist or left wing is a utopia idea.  nobody called her on it and asked &quot;isn&#039;t the free market a utopia idea?&quot;  aren&#039;t the economic theories favored by wealthy elite all striving towards a perfect system with no taxes and regulation?  rove and this sweet rep on oprah both make their trade pushing the needed propaganda and public outreach to sustain our current economic power structure.  how&#039;s christmas fellow citizen?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this really gets me worked up every time i read rove&#8217;s words.  one day on oprah she had michael moore, a &#8220;liberalish&#8221; professor, some other guy, and a woman rep from the insurance industry (she was very nice and sweet).</p>
<p>at a certain point in their discussion she used the idea that the approach they call socialist or left wing is a utopia idea.  nobody called her on it and asked &#8220;isn&#8217;t the free market a utopia idea?&#8221;  aren&#8217;t the economic theories favored by wealthy elite all striving towards a perfect system with no taxes and regulation?  rove and this sweet rep on oprah both make their trade pushing the needed propaganda and public outreach to sustain our current economic power structure.  how&#8217;s christmas fellow citizen?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5395914', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: biggreenpea</title>
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		<dc:creator>biggreenpea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 20:21:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*homeopathis=homeopathic</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*homeopathis=homeopathic<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5395912', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: biggreenpea</title>
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		<dc:creator>biggreenpea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 20:20:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ignoring rove and his fellow minion is like a homeopathis bomb.  deny him a right to speak, tell people to ignore while at the same time he just keeps putting out what some consider to be toxic meme structures.  they lead to a downward spin for the country.  hidden but not contested and disproved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ignoring rove and his fellow minion is like a homeopathis bomb.  deny him a right to speak, tell people to ignore while at the same time he just keeps putting out what some consider to be toxic meme structures.  they lead to a downward spin for the country.  hidden but not contested and disproved.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5395910', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: biggreenpea</title>
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		<dc:creator>biggreenpea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 20:16:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>eugenedebbs above i am totally like impressed...

and i&#039;ll add we can bet assured a schizoid presence when rove uses a free market like argument to debunk the free market.  forgive me if i am just economically moronic but don&#039;t rich guys get off on giving their private opinions to the government?  isn&#039;t that the point of the millions they give to our political races?  truly schizoid at least.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>eugenedebbs above i am totally like impressed&#8230;</p>
<p>and i&#8217;ll add we can bet assured a schizoid presence when rove uses a free market like argument to debunk the free market.  forgive me if i am just economically moronic but don&#8217;t rich guys get off on giving their private opinions to the government?  isn&#8217;t that the point of the millions they give to our political races?  truly schizoid at least.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5395908', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: DallasNE</title>
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		<dc:creator>DallasNE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 17:19:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Goofy best describes the series of policies the Bush administration put in place that now runs the risk of causing a new Great Depression. And Rove was a key player in that goofy scheme so he is a fine one to be criticizing efforts to unwind his disaster.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Goofy best describes the series of policies the Bush administration put in place that now runs the risk of causing a new Great Depression. And Rove was a key player in that goofy scheme so he is a fine one to be criticizing efforts to unwind his disaster.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5395850', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Cal Malenky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cal Malenky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 16:27:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But goofy, pie-in-the-sky invasions and wars are just fine for KKKarl.
What a tool. 
Why does this idiot still have a media forum?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But goofy, pie-in-the-sky invasions and wars are just fine for KKKarl.<br />
What a tool.<br />
Why does this idiot still have a media forum?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5395836', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: LoraS</title>
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		<dc:creator>LoraS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 08:36:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like to say Rove deserves a pie in the face, but that would be a waste of good food that could help feed some people who really need it, unlike Porky Turdblossom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to say Rove deserves a pie in the face, but that would be a waste of good food that could help feed some people who really need it, unlike Porky Turdblossom.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5395808', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Game of Life</title>
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		<dc:creator>Game of Life</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 02:34:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can somebody out turd?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can somebody out turd?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5395760', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Game of Life</title>
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		<dc:creator>Game of Life</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 02:28:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Another Joe Says:

When posting about kkkarl rove, we must acknowledge that the only reason he is able to be a pundit on TV, &quot;catapulting the propaganda&quot; is because the DEMS gave him a &quot;free-pass&quot; and a &quot;get out of jail free&quot; card.

They issues a subpoena, he thumbed his nose, they refused to enforce - end of story. This is actually the dems fault.

Not some want to say, &quot;geeee, kkkarl is saying all these bad things.&quot;

kkkarl will always say bad things - that is not the problem. The problem is that the DEMS are who has enabled it to continue.&lt;/em&gt;


How can you get a footing when repugs don&#039;t follow the rules or laws? Take force? What if the opposing side has forces also? Then what?

It&#039;s the congress&#039; fault not the dems fault alone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Another Joe Says:</p>
<p>When posting about kkkarl rove, we must acknowledge that the only reason he is able to be a pundit on TV, &#8220;catapulting the propaganda&#8221; is because the DEMS gave him a &#8220;free-pass&#8221; and a &#8220;get out of jail free&#8221; card.</p>
<p>They issues a subpoena, he thumbed his nose, they refused to enforce &#8211; end of story. This is actually the dems fault.</p>
<p>Not some want to say, &#8220;geeee, kkkarl is saying all these bad things.&#8221;</p>
<p>kkkarl will always say bad things &#8211; that is not the problem. The problem is that the DEMS are who has enabled it to continue.</em></p>
<p>How can you get a footing when repugs don&#8217;t follow the rules or laws? Take force? What if the opposing side has forces also? Then what?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s the congress&#8217; fault not the dems fault alone.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5395754', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: JohninOregon</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/24/rove-infrastructure-pie/comment-page-2/#comment-5395752</link>
		<dc:creator>JohninOregon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 02:27:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps Rove will soon have an opportunity to share prison space with some of the financial criminals who helped get us into our current mess. They can wile away those endless hours in the license-plate manufacturing unit by discussing the nuances of economic theory.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps Rove will soon have an opportunity to share prison space with some of the financial criminals who helped get us into our current mess. They can wile away those endless hours in the license-plate manufacturing unit by discussing the nuances of economic theory.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5395752', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Game of Life</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/24/rove-infrastructure-pie/comment-page-2/#comment-5395748</link>
		<dc:creator>Game of Life</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 02:22:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can goofess, doofess, unless turd be more wrong more times?

hello, turd. Is anybody home?

Throwing our money to yours and chimpy&#039;s buddies don&#039;t hold the US together. And ignoring obvious common oversight and necessary accountability doesn&#039;t work. Hell-f9ck-o!

These are common control practices to ensure proper procedures are followed. It also improves the control of the cash flow among other things. These are good skills and are practice by businesses from the beginning of time.

The only way capitalism will works is to &quot;WORK&quot; for the money. Something you know nothing about, turd blossom-out-your-ass-hole.

turd you need to give it a rest you silly old bastsid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can goofess, doofess, unless turd be more wrong more times?</p>
<p>hello, turd. Is anybody home?</p>
<p>Throwing our money to yours and chimpy&#8217;s buddies don&#8217;t hold the US together. And ignoring obvious common oversight and necessary accountability doesn&#8217;t work. Hell-f9ck-o!</p>
<p>These are common control practices to ensure proper procedures are followed. It also improves the control of the cash flow among other things. These are good skills and are practice by businesses from the beginning of time.</p>
<p>The only way capitalism will works is to &#8220;WORK&#8221; for the money. Something you know nothing about, turd blossom-out-your-ass-hole.</p>
<p>turd you need to give it a rest you silly old bastsid.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5395748', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: realpatriot</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/24/rove-infrastructure-pie/comment-page-2/#comment-5395742</link>
		<dc:creator>realpatriot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 02:01:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Karl needs to go far away, for ever....and take his believers with him...
Seriously...who listens to this stroke victim?
It&#039;s over Karl....you&#039;re just too sad to watch or listen to anymore...
Palin gives the troggs something to  fantasize about at least....
you just need to be scraped off the country&#039;s shoe......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Karl needs to go far away, for ever&#8230;.and take his believers with him&#8230;<br />
Seriously&#8230;who listens to this stroke victim?<br />
It&#8217;s over Karl&#8230;.you&#8217;re just too sad to watch or listen to anymore&#8230;<br />
Palin gives the troggs something to  fantasize about at least&#8230;.<br />
you just need to be scraped off the country&#8217;s shoe&#8230;&#8230;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5395742', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: jb</title>
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		<dc:creator>jb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 01:24:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Could planet Earth please be a Rove Free Zone?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could planet Earth please be a Rove Free Zone?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5395734', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: swkidder</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/24/rove-infrastructure-pie/comment-page-2/#comment-5395728</link>
		<dc:creator>swkidder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 00:54:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m going to add my voice to many above - please, could we commit to making 2009 a Rove Free Zone?  I personally, don&#039;t give a damn what he thinks ... about anything ... other than to perhaps know to believe the opposite.  But I&#039;m willing to forgo that pleasure for the even greater pleasure of not seeing his face or reading anything he has to say.  Go to the corner Turdblossom for an extended &quot;time out.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m going to add my voice to many above &#8211; please, could we commit to making 2009 a Rove Free Zone?  I personally, don&#8217;t give a damn what he thinks &#8230; about anything &#8230; other than to perhaps know to believe the opposite.  But I&#8217;m willing to forgo that pleasure for the even greater pleasure of not seeing his face or reading anything he has to say.  Go to the corner Turdblossom for an extended &#8220;time out.&#8221;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5395728', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: flex</title>
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		<dc:creator>flex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Dec 2008 00:53:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is how sick the little turd Rove and the greedy, conniving GOP is...

Turd Blossom Rove,&quot;For example, look, I’m in favor of infrastructure spending, but let’s be honest about it. It’s not stimulative.&quot;

What&#039;s stimulative, what really gets Rove&#039;s greasy mind drooling (besides 14 year old boys in women&#039;s panties) is a higher and higher profit margin $$$ by outsourcing all our jobs and money.
 Greed is what gets Rove and the Neo-cons off...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is how sick the little turd Rove and the greedy, conniving GOP is&#8230;</p>
<p>Turd Blossom Rove,&#8221;For example, look, I’m in favor of infrastructure spending, but let’s be honest about it. It’s not stimulative.&#8221;</p>
<p>What&#8217;s stimulative, what really gets Rove&#8217;s greasy mind drooling (besides 14 year old boys in women&#8217;s panties) is a higher and higher profit margin $$$ by outsourcing all our jobs and money.<br />
 Greed is what gets Rove and the Neo-cons off&#8230;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5395724', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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