MSNBC Host: It wouldn’t be ‘funny’ if someone called me ‘Tamron Hall the Magic Negro Anchor Lady.’
MSNBC Host: It wouldn’t be ‘funny’ if someone called me ‘Tamron Hall the Magic Negro Anchor Lady.’
Today on MSNBC, anchor Tamron Hall hosted a segment discussing RNC chair candidate Chip Saltsman’s Christmas greeting this year that contained a CD with the song “Barack the Magic Negro” on it. During the discussion, Kate Obenshain, vice president of Young America’s Foundation, defended the song, calling it “a parody.” But Hall, an African-American, quickly interjected, saying there is nothing “funny or amusing” about it:
HALL: Well let me tell you this — if someone referred to me as “Tamron Hall the Magic Negro Anchor Lady,” I would never see it as anything funny or amusing.
Hall later told Obenshain, “you’re not going to win a lot of people over calling them ‘Magic Negros.’” Watch it:
Transcript:
HALL: So Kate, you were the former chairman of the Virginia Republican Party. What do you think of this song and the title?
OBENSHAIN: Look, I agree with Jamal that it was a huge mistake by Chip to send this out. I think it was foolish for somebody running to be the face of the party and the chief strategist of the party.
I will point out though that the magic negro first appeared in the “Los Angeles Times” as an editorial, and it is a parody. It is, I mean, the appropriateness of Rush Limbaugh running this show — this song is — it is a perfectly appropriate thing to point out absurdity through use of the absurd. He’s basically criticizing Al Sharpton and this columnist for saying Barack Obama wasn’t black enough. Now, was it appropriate for Chip Saltsman to send it out? No, it was foolish. We need for our conservative leaders to be clearly articulating those principles that bring a broad spectrum of individuals to the republican party, something our candidate for president wasn’t able to do.
SIMMONS: I will quibble with one point that was just made. I don’t think there’s anything about this — if you actually watch the video, its not defending al sharpton or ridiculing someone for making fun of al sharpton. They’re sort of throwing al sharpton in the pot along with barack obama.
OBENSHAIN: They’re not criticizing Barack Obama. This is a parody of Al Sharpton and others who would say Barack Obama wasn’t black enough. The absurdity of saying that this man shouldn’t be president because he’s not black enough. That is what the parody is all about. It’s not criticizing Barack Obama at all but –
HALL: But you’re calling him a Magic Negro!
OBENSHAINE: That is what the columnist called him!
HALL: You know, I’m trying to be open-minded – I’m not saying you, you’re saying it’s a parody –
OBENSHAIN: Listen to the song!
HALL: I can hear it and I have read it.
OBENSHAIN: Read Rush Limbaugh’s explanation for it then and recognize that it is not mocking Barack Obama. This is why it’s so foolish for Saltsman to do it.
HALL: Well let me tell you this — if someone referred to me as “Tamron Hall the Magic Negro Anchor Lady,” I would never see it as anything funny or amusing. I do agree with you, there is a way to parody things that might be, you know –
OBENSHAIN: On a radio show, on a radio show, not for the candidate for the republican national committee chair. I agree with you completely it was foolish for somebody who needs to be reaching out to African Americans, to women to individuals from all backgrounds.
HALL: Yeah, you’re not going to win a lot of people over calling them magic negros.
OBENSHAIN: It was a foolish thing to do.
SIMMONS: Judging by the election that we had this past November, I think there are also probably a lot of non african-americans who wouldn’t find this to be an appropriate song.
OBENSNAIN: It’s not appropriate to send out.
HALL: Ok Kate, I think that’s the best note to end it this on because I don’t want anyone to think that you are defending it.
OBENSHAIN: I’m defending Rush Limbaugh.
HALL: Kate, Jamal and Tamron and Jamal, we all agree that the magic negro song is just not right.
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I’m defending Rush Limbaugh.
Actually, it wasn’t really appropriate for Rush Limbaugh, the self-admitted “water carrier” for the Republican Party, to be playing it on his radio program, either. Because he does repeat their talking points, many conservatives tune into Rush’s program to find out what to think about liberals and Democrats. Playing this song was wrong. Period.
December 29th, 2008 at 7:04 pmCall the bastards on their racism, Tamron! Well done.
Sunlight is the best disinfectant…
December 29th, 2008 at 7:05 pmI agree with you completely it was foolish for somebody who needs to be reaching out to African Americans, to women to individuals from all backgrounds.
So, Rush Limbaugh is not interested in “reaching out to African Americans”? Is that what you’re saying?
December 29th, 2008 at 7:08 pmRepugs have a twisted sense of humor – they apply it to Obama, blacks, women, Mexicans, Democrats, whoever they choose to taunt du jour. But, watch them have a vertical hissy if someone turns a joke on them.
December 29th, 2008 at 7:11 pmThere is no defending what Saltsman did; it was not only in poor taste, it was uncalled for, and it provides validation for the cretins who think as he does.
I heard today that Saltsman is from Tennessee, where the KKK began, and one of the target groups of the KKK, after the blacks, are the catholics. Saltsman is a catholic.
Now that’s funny.
Saltsman = stupid.
Next one up—blacks have no sense of humor.
December 29th, 2008 at 7:13 pm“Young America Foundation” — or as I like to call it, JuicyCampus.com.
December 29th, 2008 at 7:17 pmI just came in to read this after listening to the Progressive 760 AM here in Denver in the car where the talk on the radio was about the Repugs pulling together a national meeting on “How to be a more inclusive party“.
Well, for one thing, they might try not to insult people who are not now part of the “Good Ol’ White Boy’s Club” which is just about everybody except the “Good Ol’ White Boys” that run the soon to be obsolete Repug party.
What a joke these people are.
December 29th, 2008 at 7:31 pmPuff the Magic Dragon was an imaginary character…fiction.
To me it seems the RePuniScums would like for Barack to be imaginary and fictional. This way he becomes nothing. A joke. A song. A lyric.
The RePugniScum Party is a mushroom farm full of rotting waste, dark and damp places, and RACISTS bacteria.
December 29th, 2008 at 7:41 pmLushInterior Says:
I know you are but what am I?
A trashy racist neocon.
December 29th, 2008 at 7:43 pmSo, Rush Limbaugh is not interested in “reaching out to African Americans”? Is that what you’re saying?
December 29th, 2008 at 7:08 pm
Well, he sher does enjoy those little coffee-colored Dominican boys…
December 29th, 2008 at 7:43 pmThe 7 lb 4 oz (3.3 kilogram) baby was born on Sunday in Palmer, Alaska, and is named Tripp Easton Mitchell Johnston….
December 29th, 2008 at 7:40 pm
they’re calling him “Oxy” for short, in honor of his paternal grandmother, Sherry Johnson, recently arrested for dealing pills…
December 29th, 2008 at 7:44 pmPlease, please, please ask Michelle Bachmann to give her opinion on this issue … on a panel with Trent Lott and Tom Tancredo.
December 29th, 2008 at 7:44 pmLushInterior Says:
I know you are but what am I?
a wingnut?
an idiot?
a drunken blogger?
hmmmmm…. gay?
I’ve got it…
You are a troll who never posts anything coherent.
December 29th, 2008 at 7:45 pmOf course, what TP isn’t telling you is that no one was referring to “Magic Negro Anchor Ladies”. However, an LAT piece, (from the part black en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Ehrenstein) did call BHO a “Magic Negro”. Read it here. That’s what the parody was referring to.
How unfortunate for the U.S. that the same type of idiots who write blog posts like this will now be helping craft BHO’s policies.
December 29th, 2008 at 7:45 pmImmigration2008DotCom Says:
Of course, what TP isn’t telling you is that no one was referring to “Magic Negro Anchor Ladies”. However, an LAT piece, (from the part black en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Ehrenstein) did call BHO a “Magic Negro”. Read it here. That’s what the parody was referring to.
Old news, and TP has covered the original la times article that started this racist nonsense.
Idiot.
December 29th, 2008 at 7:48 pmLush,
December 29th, 2008 at 7:52 pmWith all respects, you are such a wannabe beginner…
Fcuking repukes can’t even do humor right.
December 29th, 2008 at 7:54 pmWay to go newscaster I never heard of before today!!
December 29th, 2008 at 7:54 pmImmigration2008DotCom Says:
December 29th, 2008 at 7:45 pm
Gee, thanks. If it weren’t for you, we’d never have figured that out.
/sarc
December 29th, 2008 at 7:57 pmLushInterior Says:
Test complete:…..I always wondered what kind of a joke would be funny among the ranks of the insane.
So, I was partially right… you are an idiot, drunken, blogging wingnut troll who never posts anything coherent,
December 29th, 2008 at 7:58 pmLushInterior Says: I have a good joke — kill the brown people and profit at the expense of disfigured Iraqi children, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!! That was fuwnny!!! Did you libs see American Carol and its non-existent box office returns?
December 29th, 2008 at 8:00 pmIs Bill Maher a racist for what he says on HBO? Hes not part of the GOP! Hes always pollitically incorrect.
December 29th, 2008 at 8:02 pmLushInterior Says:
Test complete:…..I always wondered what kind of a joke would be funny among the ranks of the insane.
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pull a cocktail weenie out of your
mouth and call it dick cheney.
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now that would be funny.
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test complete.
time your for your thorazine lush.
:)
December 29th, 2008 at 8:02 pm#26. Bill Maher is way more of a sexist than a racist. I find that troubling about him.
December 29th, 2008 at 8:03 pmcharliemac Says:
Is Bill Maher a racist for what he says on HBO? Hes not part of the GOP! Hes always pollitically incorrect.
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who is “Hes”?
is he your leader?
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December 29th, 2008 at 8:04 pmIf a black person, no african american (politically correct)would have made this video, would there be different feelings?
December 29th, 2008 at 8:07 pmMaybe a double standard.
Typo He’s.
December 29th, 2008 at 8:09 pmIf dip shits had a computer and could post, would things be different? charliemac blows that out of the water. Nice try on setting up your own example to support your stupid blather.
December 29th, 2008 at 8:10 pm28
December 29th, 2008 at 8:10 pmI expect my comics to be both and more as it is the job of the jester to show the absurdity of society. Tell me the names of three comics who you feel are none of the things you feel a comic should not be…
charliemac Says:
If a black person, no african american (politically correct)would have made this video, would there be different feelings?
Maybe a double standard.
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why not an “african american”?
what have got against them?
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maybe you have the double standard,
eh?
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meanwhile bristol gives birth to a
beautiful baby boy named “tripp“.
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they must have been “tripping”
when they thought that one up!
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December 29th, 2008 at 8:13 pmLiberalvoter, look around you. There are double standards in America. Im not defending anyone. Just making a point. It does not affect my life in any way. Nor should it affect yours.
December 29th, 2008 at 8:14 pmI find it odd, that Rush who claims to be a serious news guy has to use the comedy defense to explain his “parody”. Frankly John Stewart and Stephen Colbert know they do comedy and don’t try to do anything else.
I also think the only reason Limbaugh didn’t us the word n!gger is because is would have raised to much of a controversy.
December 29th, 2008 at 8:14 pmcharliemac Says:
Typo He’s.
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is someone helping you
do your homework, charliemac?
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December 29th, 2008 at 8:15 pmcharliemac, you are making up a situation and then using it to support your claim. Not only bad form but an error in logic.
December 29th, 2008 at 8:15 pmRepublicans don’t have a sense of humor. Everything they think is “funny” merely amounts to saying cruel things about people they don’t like. Completely devoid of any element of humor whatsoever, just a brute-force, unfair, egregious attack. Example: “Nancy Pelosi is probably a lesbian. HAHAHAHAHAH!!!” It just leaves one scratching their head and a little bit nauseous.
Sure, we do it too from time to time, a little bit. But not nearly as frequently as the right wing does, and we usually add something funny to the insult, rather than having the insult entirely stand in place of the funny.
I just don’t “get” Republican “humor” at all: nearly all of it is just like the guys on the football team laughing at the geek getting pantsed – it’s pretty much just so that everybody knows what side they’re on so they don’t get pantsed too. But that’s not humor.
Standard Republican response to the preceding paragraph: “you must be a geek and got pantsed since you used that example!” See? Not funny, certainly not clever. Just supposedly insulting.
Unfortunately, we don’t get to really enjoy playing that game. The fact that the right wing of the U.S.A. currently amounts to nothing more than a pack of retarded and socially backward cruel and evil troglodytes isn’t funny at all. It’s about as funny as your 401(k). As funny as getting waterboarded. As funny as the Constitution on fire. As funny as rows of invisible flag-draped coffins.
December 29th, 2008 at 8:16 pmHey Charliemac, your question is as relevant as asking if bush weren’t a deserter during wartime, would the Iraq war be more just?
December 29th, 2008 at 8:16 pmcharliemac Says:
Liberalvoter, look around you. There are double standards in America. Im not defending anyone. Just making a point. It does not affect my life in any way. Nor should it affect yours.
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if it doesn’t affect your life in “any way”
then why are you here, charliemac?
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look around you.
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and while we’re on the subject,
just what in blue blazes is your point?
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thank you.
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December 29th, 2008 at 8:18 pmYes joe someone is doing my homework. Would you like to help also.
Liberal, I was just asking a question?
December 29th, 2008 at 8:20 pmThis doesn’t seem to be a problem for the United States as long as it’s about Obama. Now Americans and the Media were out raged when an Iraq Journalist tossed two shoes at President Bush just because Bush illegally invaded Iraq and killed 1 million people and displacing 5 million people. Look if even an Americans says something bad about Bush you might be arrested. It’s clear the Medai/Law Makers/some Americnans have no respect for Obama but Bush who murders millions is hailed.
I look forward to the same Americans getting their lives back and bring Economic recovery, as the same Americans spit in Obama’s face for saving them from the mess Bush caused. This is an example of how far our country has gone since Bush/Cheney took office.
December 29th, 2008 at 8:21 pmElBruce Says:
Given the quick demise of the half hour news hour and the low box office performance of a “Christmas Carol” I would say republicans don’t get their sense of humor either. Perhaps when you thin, that putting people in headlocks is funny, there isn’t room of for much else.
December 29th, 2008 at 8:21 pmcharliemac Says:
Yes joe someone is doing my homework. Would you like to help also.
Liberal, I was just asking a question?
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k.
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charliemac Says:
Yes joe someone is doing my homework. Would you like to help also?
Liberal, I was just asking a question.
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(fixed)
;)
December 29th, 2008 at 8:22 pmGiven the republicans’ penchant for decrying what they are (see larry craig and gays) saltzberg must be black.
December 29th, 2008 at 8:22 pmIt’s funny that repugs think that liberal is an insult. Just take a look at what conservatives have done to our country in the last 8 years.
December 29th, 2008 at 8:24 pmOk charliemac, I’ll play. I wonder what the right wing reply would have been if Olbermann put out a song called “McCain the tortured POW”? Ha Ha, yeah that sure is funny – oh come on it’s a parody. (Ugh, what a disgusting thought) I know what my response would be and it would go against my pacifist leanings. And it took several days for ANY right winger to say anything about this ‘parody’.
December 29th, 2008 at 8:29 pmHAHA Nice.
The GOP wondering why people don’t see the humor is like the Klan wondering why people don’t see the humor.
Let em sit and be amazed we don’t like bigotry. It just solidifies their appeal to bigots only.
December 29th, 2008 at 8:29 pmraputureready must be one of those self-loathing darkies who suck up to the bossman so he don’t have to work in the fields, right, boy?
December 29th, 2008 at 8:29 pmDR, you are comparing apples to oranges. And yes slavery still does exist to a certain extent to this very day. The video is just that. A video. Was he right for putting it out. Thats up to each and every individual to decide. Im not here to get into a pissing match because a video bothers you.
December 29th, 2008 at 8:35 pmLush, you’re the victim of your ignorance, nothing more.
December 29th, 2008 at 8:35 pmLushInterior Says:
HAY!….I’m the victim here…….the mere mention of my name brings out racist hate and gnashing of teeth….repent…repent!
:)
charliemac Says:
DR, you are comparing apples to oranges. And yes slavery still does exist to a certain extent to this very day. The video is just that. A video. Was he right for putting it out. Thats up to each and every individual to decide. Im not here to get into a pissing match because a video bothers you.
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RaptureReady Says:
liberals, gain a sense of humor. Americans take things too seriously. The recording was meant for humorous purposes (I still laugh at the recording to this day, and I am a dark-skinned person). Lighten up, people.
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this is the best they have.
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“HAY!”
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December 29th, 2008 at 8:39 pmRaptureReady Says:
liberals, gain a sense of humor. Americans take things too seriously. The recording was meant for humorous purposes (I still laugh at the recording to this day, and I am a dark-skinned person). Lighten up, people.
Daryll, you’re about as convincing as a “dark-skinned person” as you are as a prophet. “Lighten up”? Oh, I get it. That’s a dark-person joke, right?
December 29th, 2008 at 8:40 pmLiberal, it depends on your sense of humor. Do you think carl reiner was crossing the line when he made All in the family. It would not work today because everybody is to sensitive and has to be politically correct. Very unfortunate.
December 29th, 2008 at 8:41 pmOf course you would be, Tamron. Conservatards, there’s only one thing more pathetic than a hate-filled bigot, and that’s a hate-filled bigot hiding from his hate-filled bigotry. Embrace your inner klansman!
December 29th, 2008 at 8:43 pmI’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, the Republicans would be out in the street protesting loudly and demanding, I mean, really demanding a public apology on all the networks if Howard Dean sent out a song titled “Bush the idiot cracker”.
December 29th, 2008 at 8:45 pmRaptureReady Says:
liberals, gain a sense of humor. Americans take things too seriously…
The problem is, I have a sense of humor. Part of having one is being able to discern what’s funny and what’s not. And the crap that wingnuts are peddling when they pretend to be funny, isn’t funny. Offensiveness aside, it’s just not funny. So using its supposed funniness as an excuse to be offensive fails on its own merits.
Either wingnuts just don’t know from funny, or they’re using “humor” as an excuse to be racist, vile, cruel and slanderous. We’re left with the same either/or that we’ve faced throughout the Bush administration: are they stupid or evil? The fact is, it doesn’t matter. They just have to be stopped.
December 29th, 2008 at 8:45 pmDr, who ever said I was GOP. I didnt that is your assumption not mine. I vote for whom ever will do the best job. I have no party affiliation. In fact lets just do away with dem’s and rep’s and vote accordingly. Im sure a majority of america is middle road on their thought process. Bring back the WHIG party!
December 29th, 2008 at 8:46 pmI would have voted for Howard Dean just for his scream of enthusiasm.
December 29th, 2008 at 8:48 pmJudging by RaptureReady’s hate filled words, it sounds more like RR is ready to be raptured with the devil than with jesus.
December 29th, 2008 at 8:48 pmRaptureReady Says:
liberals, gain a sense of humor. Americans take things too seriously. The recording was meant for humorous purposes (I still laugh at the recording to this day, and I am a dark-skinned person). Lighten up, people.
You were spotted running across a college campus in blackface and that makes you a “dark-skinned person?”
December 29th, 2008 at 8:51 pmDr, why such hostility? Are you trying to put words into my mouth and make me up set?
December 29th, 2008 at 8:53 pmThe WHIG party was destroyed because of its dispute over slavery. The WHIG couldn’t make up their minds if they were for it or against it.
December 29th, 2008 at 8:53 pmRapture Ready:
December 29th, 2008 at 8:54 pmFor real how come that party never happens? I really wanna see the nude chicks. You not so much. Still another year about to pass and the bullshit party that never happens still ain’t happening. What gives?
charliemac Says:
I would have voted for Howard Dean just for his scream of enthusiasm.
You know, charlie, you should run with that in 2012. Nominee Palin can use it and surge the party to victory.
We promise it will work.
December 29th, 2008 at 8:55 pmdb – what party? What am I missing? Why wasn’t I invited?
December 29th, 2008 at 8:55 pmWrong again, my friend. I am just telling facts. Do you remember New Orleans before Hurricane Katrina?
Do you remember New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina, when your beloved hero George W. Bush sat on his ass and ate cake with John McCain?
December 29th, 2008 at 8:55 pmcharliemac Says:
I would have voted for Howard Dean just for his scream of enthusiasm.
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what about norman lear instead of carl reiner?
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give your car keys to a friend.
call a cab.
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December 29th, 2008 at 8:56 pmDr, only if you join me and because I respect my elders, I will let you go first.
December 29th, 2008 at 8:56 pmOr I should say, President-reject John McCain.
December 29th, 2008 at 8:57 pmMcWars – thanks!
December 29th, 2008 at 8:57 pmBTW – I voted for Howard Dean in the Dem primary even after he withdrew from the race. He’s done a terrific job as head of the DNC. The 50 State plan is a winner.
December 29th, 2008 at 8:59 pmOK, I’ll take Norman Lear.
December 29th, 2008 at 9:00 pmCats, you’re very welcome. Happy New Years.
December 29th, 2008 at 9:00 pmDr, are you really a doctor or are you just pretending?
December 29th, 2008 at 9:02 pmCool. So it is close. Should I take my clothes off close or just have a snack type close?
December 29th, 2008 at 9:03 pmIf some stranger made a CD and called me a “Magic Honky”, I’d be pissed about it here.
Not so much in Tijuana.
Rush Limbaugh is a Real, Big, Fat, Prescription Pill-Crushing Retard. Nothing funny about him or that statement.
December 29th, 2008 at 9:03 pmSo RR, you are saying there needs to be a lot of death and destruction, slaughter of children, for your ‘party’ to happen? Please explain how that squares with the Sermon on the Mount? (Hint, you will find it in Matthew since you have shown you don’t know your scripture.) If death and torture is what you worship, I want nothing to do with it or you.
December 29th, 2008 at 9:03 pmRaptureReady Says:
It is very close. Israel attacks Palestine, Arab countries protest against Israel, severe economic downturn, etc. You better adhere to Acts 2:38 because, based on world situation, the time for God’s return will be very soon.
Will this be before or after “president-elect” Huckabee appears?
And what is this with a “severe economic downturn”? You’ve been dismissing this notion for months, while bragging about how much money you’re making. And the rest of that sentence, well, let’s just say this isn’t the first time Israel has attacked the Palestinians.
December 29th, 2008 at 9:04 pmCats r Flyfishn Says:
BTW – I voted for Howard Dean in the Dem primary even after he withdrew from the race. He’s done a terrific job as head of the DNC. The 50 State plan is a winner.
The media fuss about a scream was preposterous, ridiculous, unprofessional and showed a vengeance on their part. Never saw anything to it. While I thought Kerry was a good nominee, it would have been great for Howard to apply that 50-state strategy as the democratic nominee. Thanks to swift boaters and others idiots who prefer to report on screams, we were put through four more years of hell. A lot of people have suffered because of petty reporting.
Good job for standing your ground. I made the mistake of not voting in 2004.
December 29th, 2008 at 9:07 pmRepubithugs always explain away their racism with such elaborate bullshit.
The other guy that running for the GOP crown is SCGOP Chairman Katon Dawson who belonged to an “WHITE’S ONLY” country club… FOR ELEVEN YEARS!
Racist jerks, all of them.
December 29th, 2008 at 9:08 pm“Well friends, I’m baaack frum vacatuon and I had a grrreat time with my Uncle Conti and my nephews Pablo and Juano! Here are tha latest talking points that I was able to make UP!! on my 44 hour bender!”
December 29th, 2008 at 9:09 pm#33. I’d rather not play the game you suggest. It is objectionable for anyone to talk about women the way Bill Maher does.
December 29th, 2008 at 9:12 pm101
December 29th, 2008 at 9:22 pmIs it objectionable for George Carlin or Lenny Bruce? How about the great comedy which Whoopi Goldberg used to deliver or Roseanne Barr? Lily Tomlin and Gilda Radner were geniuses at mocking feminine traits. What is your beef or do you have some sort of agenda? I am no more a sexist nor racist than any of these. The comics job is to make us look at what we are. If you don’t like my “GAME”, than simply site the comic which you find amusing but crosses none of the imaginery lines your holiness has created
Gummitch,
Beat me to it. I knew President Huckabee was the key to the Rapture. Whatever will we do with “the one” interfering with Daryll’s plans?
As an aside, is Daryll trying for a Bill Kristol-like record of predictive “success?”
December 29th, 2008 at 9:23 pmIt was hard to tell that help was necessary, when there were certain people that decided to loot vendors for plasma televisions and video games. How can you operate electronics with water up to your neck? Real bright.
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Yes, Mr. Compassionate Conservative, discount the suffering of all people for the misplaced priorities of a few.
“It was hard to tell that help was necessary” — I’ve heard that one before. Maybe the hurricane should have been a Category 6 to remove all doubt, the water rushing in from the broken levees a little bit deeper.
You are one stupid dick.
December 29th, 2008 at 9:23 pmParody?!? Of what? Looks like it’s time for the GOP go back to hell where they came from. RIP is right.
December 29th, 2008 at 9:24 pmThe problem is GOP types see the backlash against this song as politically motivated, and do not understand how their racist antics come across to actual human beings. The fact they are so unapologetic about the song is shocking, Republicans have desensitized themselves to the very principles the greatest leaders of their party ever stood for in favor of cronism and hatred.
Disgusting. I knew a defeat in the general election would lead to the extreme right wing taking hold of the party, but did not expect them to fan the flames of race war.
M
December 29th, 2008 at 9:32 pmThe (R) after their name stands for repulsive bigot. These people defend hate crimes and bigotry. They defend the drug addled gas bag, Rush Limpballs.
December 29th, 2008 at 9:36 pmMan, she really moved up from Fox News Chicago. She always did a good job on that channel, I was wondering where she went.
December 29th, 2008 at 9:39 pmbreaking:
charliemac is pregnant.
December 29th, 2008 at 10:18 pm*
Coming soon to a radio near you “Rush the Man, Head of the Klu Klux Klan”.
December 29th, 2008 at 10:28 pmSockpuppets, middle school dropouts, and a Ruptured Retard. I’m glad to see the minions of the radical right are maintaining their standards.
And all in defense of hate and racism? Their Mothers must be soooooooo proud.
December 29th, 2008 at 10:52 pmRight-wingers often mistake meanness for humor. I cite Dennis Miller as proof.
The Right also tend to confuse meanness with toughness. You’ll notice they often say or do mean things–and think they’re tough because of it.
New Year’s Bubbles:
December 29th, 2008 at 10:54 pmhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_Ocbt6l5NE
Nice of those Republicans to show us what they really are. Ignorant racists proud of their stupidity. Keep showing the people what you’re all about and sit back and watch your party self destruct.
December 29th, 2008 at 10:57 pmThe lady is a liar and a typical repug (don’t believe your lying ears.) when she defends limpydic idiotic “parody” she is defending racism.
December 29th, 2008 at 11:12 pmdbadass – Unfortunately, when the rapture comes, it will destroy all of us and there will be nothing left. Wonder exactly where these raptured bodies will be floating too. Will they travel through space? Is space flat like the flat earth society believes? Will these raptured, naked bodies just fall off the edge of space and into what???? Craziness, all of it.
December 29th, 2008 at 11:47 pm#117
– Apologies… sentence should read:
Wonder exactly where these raptured bodies will be floating to.
December 29th, 2008 at 11:50 pm.
Q U E S T I O N:
What’s appropriate about RACISM that it requires a defense?
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December 30th, 2008 at 1:11 am.
Dear Tamron Hall,
Then equating your character to that of a female canine in heat would also be appropriate, no?
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December 30th, 2008 at 1:17 amOops,
December 30th, 2008 at 1:18 amMeant Kate Obenshain, not, NOT(!) Tamron Hall!!!
RaptureReady Says:
It is very close. Israel attacks Palestine, Arab countries protest against Israel, severe economic downturn, etc. You better adhere to Acts 2:38 because, based on world situation,
the time for God’s return will be very soon.
Actually, the prophetic situation was much more in adherence with biblical end-times prophecy circa 1000 AD. Why didn’t it happen then, and what makes it more likely that it will happen now?
RaptureReady Says:
It was hard to tell that help was necessary, when there were certain people that decided to loot vendors for plasma televisions and video games. How can you operate electronics with water up to your neck? Real bright.
Most of the so-called “looting” that was being reported was people requisitioning the basic necessities of life after the ability to purchase them legitimately vanished. You would do the same, or you would have died. Indeed it wouldn’t be terribly bright for lots of people to steal electronic equipment, which is why the FAUX News anchors shouldn’t have been making those stories up.
Also, the false reporting of the “black folks are looting everything” meme contributed greatly to the spree of organized vigilante race murders which also took place at the time.
December 30th, 2008 at 2:00 amLooks like I missed Ruptured alReady,
December 30th, 2008 at 2:12 ammaybe he’s off prayin’ for his own sins…
Same old same old. RupturedRetard does his imitation of a self hating minoritymoron. CharlieMac tries the old I am an unaffiliatated rightwing hivemind moron. When will the quality of trolls even APPROACH semi coherent. Are the congenitally stupid really the best the rightwing can do nowadays?
December 30th, 2008 at 2:29 amIf you can stomach concentrated fundy idiocy, check out what the folks at Rapture Ready (not Daryll) are saying about Marion “Pat” Robertson.
Enjoy and G’night.
http://www.rr-bb.com/showthread.php?p=947014#post947014
December 30th, 2008 at 2:46 amRaptureReady Says:
It was hard to tell that help was necessary, when there were certain people that decided to loot vendors for plasma televisions and video games. How can you operate electronics with water up to your neck? Real bright.
It couldn’t be that he could sell the tv for money to buy necessaries. Nooo it couldn’t that because rr narrowed “mind” says so.
Too bad the Negroes didn’t know they couldn’t move to dry land because armed racist sheriffs prevented from stepping in their “white” parrishes.
Also it was proven a clan of white racist were going around shooting anything Brown.
December 30th, 2008 at 3:01 amShe was pretty awesome on that segment. Tell me, was it she who subbed for Keith Olberman on Countdown the other night?
December 30th, 2008 at 9:35 am#103, “We can disagree without being disagreeable.” How am I a “holiness,” just because I offer my opinion?
It isn’t Bill Maher’s act that is necessarily sexist. I’ve heard his stand up and don’t recall him making sexist comments. However, some comments he makes on his show are definitely sexist and it is only a matter of time before some woman or man calls him on it.
I’ve heard Lenny Bruce on record and read his book. I don’t recall sexist comments. That said, that was a different era. Roseanne Barr is sexist?
December 30th, 2008 at 9:40 amRaptureReady Says:
It is very close. Israel attacks Palestine, Arab countries protest against Israel, severe economic downturn, etc. You better adhere to Acts 2:38 because, based on world situation, the time for God’s return will be very soon.
I see what’s happening now. Rapture is in a perpetual hard-on because he sees the rapture coming and he’s prepared.
December 30th, 2008 at 9:50 am“Roseanne Barr is sexist”
Is not grabbing one’s crotch a sexist gesture?
December 30th, 2008 at 9:58 am133, Vulgar, yes. It is not sexist according to the definition I know.
December 30th, 2008 at 10:16 amperhaps we need to hear this definition.
December 30th, 2008 at 10:20 amImmigration2008DotCom Says:
How unfortunate for the U.S. that the same type of idiots who write blog posts like this will now be helping craft BHO’s policies.
December 29th, 2008 at 7:45 pm
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Um, no they aren’t. Have you been asleep for the past month and a half while BHO has been hiring mostly DLCers?
December 30th, 2008 at 10:21 amHowever, it would be funny to call self loathing sinners like RR:
“Chickenshit, the dirty, doo-doo colored, Whigger-wannabee”.
December 30th, 2008 at 10:24 am135, You made the charge. How do you understand the term?
December 30th, 2008 at 10:34 amdbadass Says:
“Roseanne Barr is sexist”
Is not grabbing one’s crotch a sexist gesture?
December 30th, 2008 at 9:58 am
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If we’re referring to the bit where she sang the national anthem at a baseball game and kept spitting imaginary tobacco and adjusting her imaginary cup to make fun of major-league baseball players, then I’d say it’s perhaps a baseballist gesture, but not a sexist one per se. True, all major-league baseball players are male, but it didn’t appear that she was targeting all men in that act.
If comedians had to limit their acts to material that didn’t talk about race or ethnicity or gender on some level, the world would be a very boring place. There’s a distinction, however, between an act that makes fun OF that other race, and an act that makes fun WITH that other race.
I don’t know exactly how to draw that line, but it’s somewhere in the approach – when the jokes are coming from a mentality of division and hate versus a mentality of love and acceptance. Or perhaps it’s the difference between poking fun at the people and poking fun at the stereotype itself. Either way, I see it as good.
December 30th, 2008 at 10:35 ambut you refuted it based on “your” definition. One might interpret the term to indicate the application of gender stereotypes. Still my point has to do with the foundations social comedy and nothing else
December 30th, 2008 at 10:38 amcharliemac Says:
Liberal, it depends on your sense of humor. Do you think carl reiner was crossing the line when he made All in the family. It would not work today because everybody is to sensitive and has to be politically correct. Very unfortunate.
December 29th, 2008 at 8:41 pm
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He was totally crossing the line, but crossing the line that needed to be crossed then. We don’t need to cross that line anymore. A racist, sexist curmudgeon for a lead character wouldn’t be funny in the current climate. I don’t think it’s anything about political correctness or oversensitivity, it’s just a matter of changing tastes and sophistication.
Or not. Perhaps it would work today. All In The Family shouldn’t have worked in the 70s, in fact. It tested horribly in focus groups – they all wanted Archie Bunker replaced with a sweet, lovable old man. Shows what people know…
December 30th, 2008 at 10:40 am140, Wow! When did you make the point about foundations of social comedy? I missed that.
Sexism includes attitudes that stereotype based on sex.
December 30th, 2008 at 10:46 amThe Republicans like Kate Obenshain are so completely incapable of reaching out to blacks because they are completely incapable of experiencing empathy for people different than they are. Listen to her scream over an African American to defend this song as a parody appropriate for Rush Limbaugh to play instead of doing something very different, but actually very easy —- asking the African American she is talking to, “Help me understand why you, and other African Americans, find this offensive?” Then actually LISTENING to the response and trying to genuinely understand and appreciate it.
December 30th, 2008 at 10:59 amin number 33
December 30th, 2008 at 11:17 amThe Republican party has NO interest in issues facing African-Americans or any other minority group. Their only reference to an African American male comes in a song in which the term Negro is used.
December 30th, 2008 at 12:32 pmIt is not a parody, it is thinly veiled racism! A song meant to degrade the President-Elect. The problem is the RNC does not acknowledge it but the rest of the country does. The RNC should be ashamed and at the very least make a statement saying they disagreed with the distribution of the CD.
Looks like our trolls have moved on. I guess they gave up trying to convince us racism is OK.
December 30th, 2008 at 12:38 pmI’m hearing this a lot lately….from the republicans that I know who want to distance themselves from the losing gop.
December 30th, 2008 at 12:44 pmCharliemac, I’m confused by your apparent opposition to a party system, contradicted by your suggestion to bring back an old party. The Whig Party was created in opposition to what was then the Democratic party. How would bringing it back change anything?
BTW, the Whigs supported a the supremecy of Congress over the Executive branch, and also strongly favored economic protectionism. It also disintegrated because of intraparty disagreement over slavery. Do you still want to bring them back?
December 30th, 2008 at 12:52 pmYour true self is revealed when you drag out the negative stereotypes. Tell us all again how ‘dark skinned’ you are again.
You’re dark-skinned as in: you’re normally porcelain white but after a little time in the sun your neck is bright red and glowing.
Even Clarence Thomas has enough self respect not to use those stereotypes in this forum in that context.
You cannot hide who you are … now get back to AOL or StormFront or Human Events or WND or whatever other internet trash receptacle you wingnuts swarm around.
December 30th, 2008 at 2:16 pmSame old stuff…..Say something stupid and offensive, then say it was all a joke and ask that all be forgiven…..over and over again….
Ann Coulter=(paraphrasing…all) The widows of 9/11 wanted it to happen
Larry Craig=I spread my legs real wide when I take a dump
Bill Orielly= Malmadey is where Americans butchered surrending german soldiers
GW=The foundations of the economy are strong
Mark Foley=none of the pages I soliticed were under 18
Sean Hannity=we have to save Teri Schivo
It’s time for a surge here in America, and purge ourselves of this dog vomit
December 30th, 2008 at 4:32 pmthat constantly comes from the right…and the left…
schminkey, the whig comment was sarcasm. people on this site take things to seriously. as far as the other commment about both parties, it appears that a majority of people in this country have both liberal and conservative views. The way things are changing why do we need both parties. For checks and balances BS. Laws and bills dont get passed or considered when that majority party is stronger in number. You honestly think that both reps and dems dont play games against each other during votes. Its nonsense. Im sure there have been plenty of good bills and laws squashed because of these kinds of games.
December 30th, 2008 at 5:25 pmOK folks, let’s roll up our sleeves a minute, and take this point by point. The song in question makes repeated references to the fact that the L.A. Times referred to Obama as a “magic negro.” Although this is an obvious “the Left did it first, that means we can say it over and over and over ha ha haa!” actually, the term “magic negro” is used in a very particular context in the original article.
In literary criticism, “magic negro” points out stories in which a black man (often with special powers or wisdom) helps a white protagonist with his problems. The use of “negro” in this context underscores the fact that such stories are inherently racist – if the black guy has such magical powers or wisdom, why isn’t he improving his own life instead of helping some white guy? Why aren’t we hearing the story from his perspective? For a great example of such stories, think about “the Legend of Bagger Vance” or most movies involving Morgan Freeman. The black guy isn’t the protagonist, although it’s his skills and knowledge that are critical. And that’s the problem. It would be better to hear his story than to hear someone else’s story that he made possible. It’s black guy as deus ex machina. And it’s far too widely used in American literature and film.
So the L.A. Times connected this literary style with the current political situation involving Obama (an interesting psychological observation), and that’s all the Republicans needed – “they said ‘negro,’ now we can do whatever we want!” Basically, they took the phrase out of context and ran with it, like kids with stolen scissors.
In the song as distributed, the issue isn’t so much that Obama resolves white guilt (although that’s mentioned) but it’s framed much more about being Obama vs. Al Sharpton / Jesse Jackson – style contrarian race relations. Which has nothing whatsoever to do with the original context of the term. Also note that in the song, it mentions over and over that the L.A. Times said it first, as if they’re trying to redirect the condemnation they know is coming.
By removing the term “negro” from its original, limited, more appropriate context and just running with it, the Republicans make it clear that their only intent was to get the chance to say “negro” a lot, without saying much else.
Then they turn around and try to claim that it’s parody, because apparently getting away with saying “negro” in public makes them giggle. That’s why it’s racist.
I expect this crap from Rush. Play away, you Oxy snorting freak. But if the leadership of the GOP is going to go there, then it’s pretty indicative of the fact that they intend to exile themselves for a long, long time.
And that’s OK by me.
December 30th, 2008 at 11:54 pmDefending Rush Limbaugh? Right there all credibility is flushed down Larry Craig’s toilet. And then her twisted logic that it is ok to say it on the radio but not on TV.I guess if you have to actually show your face, its a disgrace….
December 31st, 2008 at 3:54 amWell put elbruce!
December 31st, 2008 at 5:49 amActually, “Magic Negro” was coined after the Brown v Board of Education ruling to describe blacks who assisted whites in assuaging their guilt. It was referenced prominently in David Ehrenstein’s March 19, 2007 L.A. Times op-ed piece, “Obama the Magic Negro”. Limbaugh ran with this piece as it dismissed Barack as a black man with no “street cred”. It likened Sharpton and Snoop Dogg to “Real” black men. Somehow, Tamron forgot to do her homework and now looks superficial and phony. She is supposed to be a journalist not a tabloid reporter.
Anyone who doesn’t acknowledge the struggle president elect Obama is facing within the black community is willfully deceptive. I, for one, am sick of “Real Blacks”. I voted for Obama because he appears to be thoughtful rather than an ideologue. He has kept my trust by keeping Gates to oversee our wars. Gates has been very successful and deserves to be left in that role, regardless of his political affiliation. This shows president elect Obama as a man who can be trusted to make good decisions. Black leaders can diminish him as “not a real black man”. I embrace him wholly as an American and my next president of the United States. His character, not his color, matters most to me.
December 31st, 2008 at 4:32 pmdrew3rd Says:
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His character, not his color, matters most to me.
It doesn’t get any realer than that.
December 31st, 2008 at 5:37 pm