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	<title>Comments on: MSNBC Host: It wouldn&#8217;t be &#8216;funny&#8217; if someone called me &#8216;Tamron Hall the Magic Negro Anchor Lady.&#8217;</title>
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		<title>By: ElBruce</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/29/tamron-hall-magic-negro/comment-page-4/#comment-5401372</link>
		<dc:creator>ElBruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 22:37:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;drew3rd Says: 
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His character, not his color, matters most to me.&lt;/em&gt;

It doesn&#039;t get any realer than that.</description>
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<p>His character, not his color, matters most to me.</em></p>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t get any realer than that.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5401372', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: drew3rd</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/29/tamron-hall-magic-negro/comment-page-4/#comment-5401304</link>
		<dc:creator>drew3rd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 21:32:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, &quot;Magic Negro&quot; was coined after the Brown v Board of Education ruling to describe blacks who assisted whites in assuaging their guilt. It was referenced prominently in David Ehrenstein&#039;s March 19, 2007 L.A. Times op-ed piece, &quot;Obama the Magic Negro&quot;. Limbaugh ran with this piece as it dismissed Barack as a black man with no &quot;street cred&quot;. It likened Sharpton and Snoop Dogg to &quot;Real&quot; black men. Somehow, Tamron forgot to do her homework and now looks superficial and phony. She is supposed to be a journalist not a tabloid reporter. 

Anyone who doesn&#039;t acknowledge the struggle president elect Obama is facing within the black community is willfully deceptive. I, for one, am sick of &quot;Real Blacks&quot;. I voted for Obama because he appears to be thoughtful rather than an ideologue. He has kept my trust by keeping Gates to oversee our wars. Gates has been very successful and deserves to be left in that role, regardless of his political affiliation. This shows president elect Obama as a man who can be trusted to make good decisions. Black leaders can diminish him as &quot;not a real black man&quot;. I embrace him wholly as an American and my next president of the United States. His character, not his color, matters most to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, &#8220;Magic Negro&#8221; was coined after the Brown v Board of Education ruling to describe blacks who assisted whites in assuaging their guilt. It was referenced prominently in David Ehrenstein&#8217;s March 19, 2007 L.A. Times op-ed piece, &#8220;Obama the Magic Negro&#8221;. Limbaugh ran with this piece as it dismissed Barack as a black man with no &#8220;street cred&#8221;. It likened Sharpton and Snoop Dogg to &#8220;Real&#8221; black men. Somehow, Tamron forgot to do her homework and now looks superficial and phony. She is supposed to be a journalist not a tabloid reporter. </p>
<p>Anyone who doesn&#8217;t acknowledge the struggle president elect Obama is facing within the black community is willfully deceptive. I, for one, am sick of &#8220;Real Blacks&#8221;. I voted for Obama because he appears to be thoughtful rather than an ideologue. He has kept my trust by keeping Gates to oversee our wars. Gates has been very successful and deserves to be left in that role, regardless of his political affiliation. This shows president elect Obama as a man who can be trusted to make good decisions. Black leaders can diminish him as &#8220;not a real black man&#8221;. I embrace him wholly as an American and my next president of the United States. His character, not his color, matters most to me.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5401304', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: charliemac</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/29/tamron-hall-magic-negro/comment-page-4/#comment-5400784</link>
		<dc:creator>charliemac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 10:49:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well put elbruce!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well put elbruce!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5400784', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: johnmatin</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/29/tamron-hall-magic-negro/comment-page-4/#comment-5400774</link>
		<dc:creator>johnmatin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 08:54:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Defending Rush Limbaugh? Right there all credibility is flushed down Larry Craig&#039;s toilet. And then her twisted logic that it is ok to say it on the radio but not on TV.I guess if you have to actually show your face, its a disgrace....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Defending Rush Limbaugh? Right there all credibility is flushed down Larry Craig&#8217;s toilet. And then her twisted logic that it is ok to say it on the radio but not on TV.I guess if you have to actually show your face, its a disgrace&#8230;.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5400774', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: ElBruce</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/29/tamron-hall-magic-negro/comment-page-4/#comment-5400690</link>
		<dc:creator>ElBruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 04:54:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK folks, let&#039;s roll up our sleeves a minute, and take this point by point.  The &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9y0EUgcNVDU&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;song in question&lt;/a&gt; makes repeated references to the fact that the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-ehrenstein19mar19,0,5335087.story?coll=la-opinion-center&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;L.A. Times referred to Obama as a &quot;magic negro.&quot;&lt;/a&gt;  Although this is an obvious &quot;the Left did it first, that means we can say it over and over and over ha ha haa!&quot; actually, the term &quot;magic negro&quot; is used in a very particular context in the original article.

In literary criticism, &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_negro&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;magic negro&quot;&lt;/a&gt; points out stories in which a black man (often with special powers or wisdom) helps a white protagonist with his problems.  The use of &quot;negro&quot; in this context underscores the fact that such stories are inherently racist - if the black guy has such magical powers or wisdom, why isn&#039;t he improving his own life instead of helping some white guy?  Why aren&#039;t we hearing the story from his perspective?  For a great example of such stories, think about &quot;the Legend of Bagger Vance&quot; or most movies involving Morgan Freeman.  The black guy isn&#039;t the protagonist, although it&#039;s his skills and knowledge that are critical.  And that&#039;s the problem.  It would be better to hear his story than to hear someone else&#039;s story that he made possible.  It&#039;s black guy as &lt;em&gt;deus ex machina&lt;/em&gt;.  And it&#039;s far too widely used in American literature and film.

So the L.A. Times connected this literary style with the current political situation involving Obama (an interesting psychological observation), and that&#039;s all the Republicans needed - &quot;they said &#039;negro,&#039; now we can do whatever we want!&quot;  Basically, they took the phrase out of context and ran with it, like kids with stolen scissors.

In the song as distributed, the issue isn&#039;t so much that Obama resolves white guilt (although that&#039;s mentioned) but it&#039;s framed much more about being Obama vs. Al Sharpton / Jesse Jackson - style contrarian race relations.  Which has nothing whatsoever to do with the original context of the term.  Also note that in the song, it mentions over and over that the L.A. Times said it first, as if they&#039;re trying to redirect the condemnation they know is coming.

By removing the term &quot;negro&quot; from its original, limited, more appropriate context and just running with it, the Republicans make it clear that their only intent was to get the chance to say &quot;negro&quot; a lot, without saying much else.

Then they turn around and try to claim that it&#039;s parody, because apparently getting away with saying &quot;negro&quot; in public makes them giggle.  That&#039;s why it&#039;s racist.

I expect this crap from Rush.  Play away, you Oxy snorting freak.  But if the leadership of the GOP is going to go there, then it&#039;s pretty indicative of the fact that they intend to exile themselves for a long, long time.

And that&#039;s OK by me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK folks, let&#8217;s roll up our sleeves a minute, and take this point by point.  The <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9y0EUgcNVDU" rel="nofollow">song in question</a> makes repeated references to the fact that the <a href="http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-ehrenstein19mar19,0,5335087.story?coll=la-opinion-center" rel="nofollow">L.A. Times referred to Obama as a &#8220;magic negro.&#8221;</a>  Although this is an obvious &#8220;the Left did it first, that means we can say it over and over and over ha ha haa!&#8221; actually, the term &#8220;magic negro&#8221; is used in a very particular context in the original article.</p>
<p>In literary criticism, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_negro" rel="nofollow">&#8220;magic negro&#8221;</a> points out stories in which a black man (often with special powers or wisdom) helps a white protagonist with his problems.  The use of &#8220;negro&#8221; in this context underscores the fact that such stories are inherently racist &#8211; if the black guy has such magical powers or wisdom, why isn&#8217;t he improving his own life instead of helping some white guy?  Why aren&#8217;t we hearing the story from his perspective?  For a great example of such stories, think about &#8220;the Legend of Bagger Vance&#8221; or most movies involving Morgan Freeman.  The black guy isn&#8217;t the protagonist, although it&#8217;s his skills and knowledge that are critical.  And that&#8217;s the problem.  It would be better to hear his story than to hear someone else&#8217;s story that he made possible.  It&#8217;s black guy as <em>deus ex machina</em>.  And it&#8217;s far too widely used in American literature and film.</p>
<p>So the L.A. Times connected this literary style with the current political situation involving Obama (an interesting psychological observation), and that&#8217;s all the Republicans needed &#8211; &#8220;they said &#8216;negro,&#8217; now we can do whatever we want!&#8221;  Basically, they took the phrase out of context and ran with it, like kids with stolen scissors.</p>
<p>In the song as distributed, the issue isn&#8217;t so much that Obama resolves white guilt (although that&#8217;s mentioned) but it&#8217;s framed much more about being Obama vs. Al Sharpton / Jesse Jackson &#8211; style contrarian race relations.  Which has nothing whatsoever to do with the original context of the term.  Also note that in the song, it mentions over and over that the L.A. Times said it first, as if they&#8217;re trying to redirect the condemnation they know is coming.</p>
<p>By removing the term &#8220;negro&#8221; from its original, limited, more appropriate context and just running with it, the Republicans make it clear that their only intent was to get the chance to say &#8220;negro&#8221; a lot, without saying much else.</p>
<p>Then they turn around and try to claim that it&#8217;s parody, because apparently getting away with saying &#8220;negro&#8221; in public makes them giggle.  That&#8217;s why it&#8217;s racist.</p>
<p>I expect this crap from Rush.  Play away, you Oxy snorting freak.  But if the leadership of the GOP is going to go there, then it&#8217;s pretty indicative of the fact that they intend to exile themselves for a long, long time.</p>
<p>And that&#8217;s OK by me.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5400690', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: charliemac</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/29/tamron-hall-magic-negro/comment-page-4/#comment-5400322</link>
		<dc:creator>charliemac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 22:25:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>schminkey, the whig comment was sarcasm. people on this site take things to seriously. as far as the other commment about both parties, it appears that a majority of people in this country have both liberal and conservative views.  The way things are changing why do we need both parties.  For checks and balances BS.  Laws and bills dont get passed or considered when that majority party is stronger in number. You honestly think that both reps and dems dont play games against each other during votes.  Its nonsense.  Im sure there have been plenty of good bills and laws squashed because of these kinds of games.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>schminkey, the whig comment was sarcasm. people on this site take things to seriously. as far as the other commment about both parties, it appears that a majority of people in this country have both liberal and conservative views.  The way things are changing why do we need both parties.  For checks and balances BS.  Laws and bills dont get passed or considered when that majority party is stronger in number. You honestly think that both reps and dems dont play games against each other during votes.  Its nonsense.  Im sure there have been plenty of good bills and laws squashed because of these kinds of games.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5400322', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: realpatriot</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/29/tamron-hall-magic-negro/comment-page-4/#comment-5400252</link>
		<dc:creator>realpatriot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 21:32:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Same old stuff.....Say something stupid and offensive, then say it was all a joke and ask that all be forgiven.....over and over again....

Ann Coulter=(paraphrasing...all) The widows of 9/11 wanted it to happen
Larry Craig=I spread my legs real wide when I take a dump
Bill Orielly= Malmadey is where Americans butchered surrending german soldiers
GW=The foundations of the economy are strong
Mark Foley=none of the pages I soliticed were under 18
Sean Hannity=we have to save Teri Schivo

It&#039;s time for a surge here in America, and purge ourselves of this dog vomit
that constantly comes from the right...and the left...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Same old stuff&#8230;..Say something stupid and offensive, then say it was all a joke and ask that all be forgiven&#8230;..over and over again&#8230;.</p>
<p>Ann Coulter=(paraphrasing&#8230;all) The widows of 9/11 wanted it to happen<br />
Larry Craig=I spread my legs real wide when I take a dump<br />
Bill Orielly= Malmadey is where Americans butchered surrending german soldiers<br />
GW=The foundations of the economy are strong<br />
Mark Foley=none of the pages I soliticed were under 18<br />
Sean Hannity=we have to save Teri Schivo</p>
<p>It&#8217;s time for a surge here in America, and purge ourselves of this dog vomit<br />
that constantly comes from the right&#8230;and the left&#8230;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5400252', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Isome</title>
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		<dc:creator>Isome</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 19:16:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;RaptureReady said:

Your words do not offend me. I have been called an Uncle Tom numerous times. I am an individual, but I would rather be an Uncle Tom then a pot smoking, hip-hop listening, bad hygiene, baby-making (with the koolaid stain around the child’s lip), ebonics speaking, chicken eating, low pants wearing person.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Your true self is revealed when you drag out the negative stereotypes. Tell us all again how &#039;dark skinned&#039; you are again. 

You&#039;re dark-skinned as in:  you&#039;re normally &lt;strong&gt;porcelain white&lt;/strong&gt; but after a little time in the sun your neck is &lt;strong&gt;bright red and glowing&lt;/strong&gt;. 

Even Clarence Thomas has enough self respect not to use &lt;strong&gt;those&lt;/strong&gt; stereotypes in &lt;strong&gt;this&lt;/strong&gt; forum in &lt;strong&gt;that&lt;/strong&gt; context. 

You cannot hide who you are ... now get back to AOL or StormFront or Human Events or WND or whatever other internet trash receptacle you wingnuts swarm around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>RaptureReady said:</p>
<p>Your words do not offend me. I have been called an Uncle Tom numerous times. I am an individual, but I would rather be an Uncle Tom then a pot smoking, hip-hop listening, bad hygiene, baby-making (with the koolaid stain around the child’s lip), ebonics speaking, chicken eating, low pants wearing person.</p></blockquote>
<p>Your true self is revealed when you drag out the negative stereotypes. Tell us all again how &#8216;dark skinned&#8217; you are again. </p>
<p>You&#8217;re dark-skinned as in:  you&#8217;re normally <strong>porcelain white</strong> but after a little time in the sun your neck is <strong>bright red and glowing</strong>. </p>
<p>Even Clarence Thomas has enough self respect not to use <strong>those</strong> stereotypes in <strong>this</strong> forum in <strong>that</strong> context. </p>
<p>You cannot hide who you are &#8230; now get back to AOL or StormFront or Human Events or WND or whatever other internet trash receptacle you wingnuts swarm around.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5400014', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: schminkey</title>
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		<dc:creator>schminkey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 17:52:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Charliemac, I&#039;m confused by your apparent opposition to a party system, contradicted by your suggestion to bring back an old party.  The Whig Party was created in opposition to what was then the Democratic party.  How would bringing it back change anything?

BTW, the Whigs supported a the supremecy of Congress over the Executive branch, and also strongly favored economic protectionism.  It also disintegrated because of intraparty disagreement over slavery.  Do you still want to bring them back?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charliemac, I&#8217;m confused by your apparent opposition to a party system, contradicted by your suggestion to bring back an old party.  The Whig Party was created in opposition to what was then the Democratic party.  How would bringing it back change anything?</p>
<p>BTW, the Whigs supported a the supremecy of Congress over the Executive branch, and also strongly favored economic protectionism.  It also disintegrated because of intraparty disagreement over slavery.  Do you still want to bring them back?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5399822', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Fred</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 17:44:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;charliemac Says: 
Dr, who ever said I was GOP. I didnt that is your assumption not mine. I vote for whom ever will do the best job. I have no party affiliation. In fact lets just do away with dem’s and rep’s and vote accordingly. Im sure a majority of america is middle road on their thought process. Bring back the WHIG party!&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;m hearing this a lot lately....from the republicans that I know who want to distance themselves from the losing gop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>charliemac Says:<br />
Dr, who ever said I was GOP. I didnt that is your assumption not mine. I vote for whom ever will do the best job. I have no party affiliation. In fact lets just do away with dem’s and rep’s and vote accordingly. Im sure a majority of america is middle road on their thought process. Bring back the WHIG party!</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;m hearing this a lot lately&#8230;.from the republicans that I know who want to distance themselves from the losing gop.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5399814', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: LiberalVoter</title>
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		<dc:creator>LiberalVoter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 17:38:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like our trolls have moved on. I guess they gave up trying to convince us racism is OK.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like our trolls have moved on. I guess they gave up trying to convince us racism is OK.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5399804', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: JYD</title>
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		<dc:creator>JYD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 17:32:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Republican party has NO interest in issues facing African-Americans or any other minority group.  Their only reference to an African American male comes in a song in which the term Negro is used. 
It is not a parody, it is thinly veiled racism!  A song meant to degrade the President-Elect. The problem is the RNC does not acknowledge it but the rest of the country does.  The RNC should be ashamed and at the very least make a statement saying they disagreed with the distribution of the CD.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Republican party has NO interest in issues facing African-Americans or any other minority group.  Their only reference to an African American male comes in a song in which the term Negro is used.<br />
It is not a parody, it is thinly veiled racism!  A song meant to degrade the President-Elect. The problem is the RNC does not acknowledge it but the rest of the country does.  The RNC should be ashamed and at the very least make a statement saying they disagreed with the distribution of the CD.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5399792', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: dbadass</title>
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		<dc:creator>dbadass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 16:17:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>in number 33</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>in number 33<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5399704', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: schminkey</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 15:59:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Republicans like Kate Obenshain are so completely incapable of reaching out to blacks because they are completely incapable of experiencing empathy for people different than they are.  Listen to her scream over an African American to defend this song as a parody appropriate for Rush Limbaugh to play instead of doing something very different, but actually very easy ---- asking the African American she is talking to, &quot;Help me understand why you, and other African Americans, find this offensive?&quot;  Then actually LISTENING to the response and trying to genuinely understand and appreciate it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Republicans like Kate Obenshain are so completely incapable of reaching out to blacks because they are completely incapable of experiencing empathy for people different than they are.  Listen to her scream over an African American to defend this song as a parody appropriate for Rush Limbaugh to play instead of doing something very different, but actually very easy &#8212;- asking the African American she is talking to, &#8220;Help me understand why you, and other African Americans, find this offensive?&#8221;  Then actually LISTENING to the response and trying to genuinely understand and appreciate it.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5399676', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: stewarjt</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 15:46:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>140, Wow!  When did you make the point about foundations of social comedy?  I missed that.

Sexism includes attitudes that stereotype based on sex.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>140, Wow!  When did you make the point about foundations of social comedy?  I missed that.</p>
<p>Sexism includes attitudes that stereotype based on sex.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5399662', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: hussein toasterhead</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/29/tamron-hall-magic-negro/comment-page-3/#comment-5399652</link>
		<dc:creator>hussein toasterhead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 15:40:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;charliemac Says: 

Liberal, it depends on your sense of humor. Do you think carl reiner was crossing the line when he made All in the family. It would not work today because everybody is to sensitive and has to be politically correct. Very unfortunate.

December 29th, 2008 at 8:41 pm&lt;/em&gt;
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He was totally crossing the line, but crossing the line that needed to be crossed then.  We don&#039;t need to cross that line anymore.  A racist, sexist curmudgeon for a lead character wouldn&#039;t be funny in the current climate.  I don&#039;t think it&#039;s anything about political correctness or oversensitivity, it&#039;s just a matter of changing tastes and sophistication.  

Or not.  Perhaps it would work today.  &lt;em&gt;All In The Family&lt;/em&gt; shouldn&#039;t have worked in the 70s, in fact.  It tested horribly in focus groups - they all wanted Archie Bunker replaced with a sweet, lovable old man.  Shows what people know...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>charliemac Says: </p>
<p>Liberal, it depends on your sense of humor. Do you think carl reiner was crossing the line when he made All in the family. It would not work today because everybody is to sensitive and has to be politically correct. Very unfortunate.</p>
<p>December 29th, 2008 at 8:41 pm</em><br />
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<p>He was totally crossing the line, but crossing the line that needed to be crossed then.  We don&#8217;t need to cross that line anymore.  A racist, sexist curmudgeon for a lead character wouldn&#8217;t be funny in the current climate.  I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s anything about political correctness or oversensitivity, it&#8217;s just a matter of changing tastes and sophistication.  </p>
<p>Or not.  Perhaps it would work today.  <em>All In The Family</em> shouldn&#8217;t have worked in the 70s, in fact.  It tested horribly in focus groups &#8211; they all wanted Archie Bunker replaced with a sweet, lovable old man.  Shows what people know&#8230;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5399652', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: dbadass</title>
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		<dc:creator>dbadass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 15:38:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>but you refuted it based on &quot;your&quot; definition. One might interpret the term to indicate the application of gender stereotypes. Still my point has to do with the foundations social comedy and nothing else</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>but you refuted it based on &#8220;your&#8221; definition. One might interpret the term to indicate the application of gender stereotypes. Still my point has to do with the foundations social comedy and nothing else<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5399646', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: hussein toasterhead</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2008/12/29/tamron-hall-magic-negro/comment-page-3/#comment-5399640</link>
		<dc:creator>hussein toasterhead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 15:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;dbadass Says: 

“Roseanne Barr is sexist”

Is not grabbing one’s crotch a sexist gesture?

December 30th, 2008 at 9:58 am&lt;/em&gt;
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If we&#039;re referring to the bit where she sang the national anthem at a baseball game and kept spitting imaginary tobacco and adjusting her imaginary cup to make fun of major-league baseball players, then I&#039;d say it&#039;s perhaps a baseballist gesture, but not a sexist one per se.  True, all major-league baseball players are male, but it didn&#039;t appear that she was targeting all men in that act.

If comedians had to limit their acts to material that didn&#039;t talk about race or ethnicity or gender on some level, the world would be a very boring place.  There&#039;s a distinction, however, between an act that makes fun OF that other race, and an act that makes fun WITH that other race.  

I don&#039;t know exactly how to draw that line, but it&#039;s somewhere in the approach - when the jokes are coming from a mentality of division and hate versus a mentality of love and acceptance.  Or perhaps it&#039;s the difference between poking fun at the people and poking fun at the stereotype itself.  Either way, I see it as good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>dbadass Says: </p>
<p>“Roseanne Barr is sexist”</p>
<p>Is not grabbing one’s crotch a sexist gesture?</p>
<p>December 30th, 2008 at 9:58 am</em><br />
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<p>If we&#8217;re referring to the bit where she sang the national anthem at a baseball game and kept spitting imaginary tobacco and adjusting her imaginary cup to make fun of major-league baseball players, then I&#8217;d say it&#8217;s perhaps a baseballist gesture, but not a sexist one per se.  True, all major-league baseball players are male, but it didn&#8217;t appear that she was targeting all men in that act.</p>
<p>If comedians had to limit their acts to material that didn&#8217;t talk about race or ethnicity or gender on some level, the world would be a very boring place.  There&#8217;s a distinction, however, between an act that makes fun OF that other race, and an act that makes fun WITH that other race.  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know exactly how to draw that line, but it&#8217;s somewhere in the approach &#8211; when the jokes are coming from a mentality of division and hate versus a mentality of love and acceptance.  Or perhaps it&#8217;s the difference between poking fun at the people and poking fun at the stereotype itself.  Either way, I see it as good.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5399640', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: stewarjt</title>
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		<dc:creator>stewarjt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 15:34:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>135, &lt;em&gt;You &lt;/em&gt;made the charge.  How do &lt;em&gt;you &lt;/em&gt;understand the term?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>135, <em>You </em>made the charge.  How do <em>you </em>understand the term?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5399638', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: DNFP</title>
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		<dc:creator>DNFP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 15:24:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>However, it would be funny to call self loathing sinners like RR:

&quot;Chickenshit, the dirty, doo-doo colored, Whigger-wannabee&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>However, it would be funny to call self loathing sinners like RR:</p>
<p>&#8220;Chickenshit, the dirty, doo-doo colored, Whigger-wannabee&#8221;.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5399624', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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