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Gonzales: ‘What Is It That I Did That Is So Fundamentally Wrong?’

gonzobushweb.jpgAlberto Gonzales’s legal career at the White House and the Justice Department was a stain even for the Bush administration. Gonzales left office with a 28 percent approval rating, with over 40 percent of the country saying he should resign.

Yet, Gonzales is puzzled to this day why the public frowns upon his tenure in government. In an interview with the Wall Street Journal, Gonzales asks, “What is it that I did that is so fundamentally wrong, that deserves this kind of response to my service?” He added, “For some reason, I am portrayed as the one who is evil in formulating policies that people disagree with. I consider myself a casualty, one of the many casualties of the war on terror.”

Fortunately, we can offer Gonzales some help in figuring out what he did that was so “fundamentally wrong.” Some lowlights:

Politicized the DOJ: – Gonzales approved the firing and hiring of federal prosecutors for political reasons and lied to Congress about the scandal.

Approved torture: In 2002, Gonzales “raised no objections and, without consulting military and State Department experts in the laws of torture and war,” approved an infamous August 2002 memo giving CIA interrogators “legal blessings.” Gonzales witnessed an interrogation at Gitmo in 2002 and approved of “whatever needs to be done” to detainees.

Lied about warrantless wiretapping: Gonzaled lied to Congress multiple times about the Bush administration’s illegal wiretapping program, saying there wasn’t “any serious disagreement” about the program (there was).

Distorted pre-war intelligence: Last month, the House Oversight Committee revealed evidence showing that Gonzales lied to Congress in 2004 by claiming that the CIA “orally” approved Bush’s claim that Iraq sought uranium from Africa.

Furthermore, it appears Gonzales’s lying streak isn’t over. Gonzales told the WSJ that he didn’t play a central role in drafting the opinions allowing the CIA to use harsh interrogations. “John Yoo had strong views. No one could make him do anything he didn’t want to do,” he said. Gonzales also said he did not lie to Congress about the illegal surveillance program.

Gonzales also bizarrely claimed that he “found [John] Ashcroft as lucid as I’ve seen him at meetings in the White House,” referring to the infamous strong-arming of Ashcroft at his sickbed in 2002 in order to get approval of the illegal wiretapping program. In reality, Ashcroft had a severe case of gallstone pancreatitis and was a “very sick man,” according to then-Deputy Attorney General James Comey.

Since his resignation, Gonzales has still been unable to find work. “Any law firm that does due diligence on me sees all the investigations and the possibility that I might be indicted and they say, ‘Not right now,’” he said.

Gonzales’s bewilderment is similar to that of Vice President Cheney, who recently said he doesn’t have “any idea” why he has such low approval ratings.



103 Responses to “Gonzales: ‘What Is It That I Did That Is So Fundamentally Wrong?’”

  1. grover nerdkissed says:

    cry me a river, ya li’l toadie.


  2. Badmoodman says:

    Gonzales: ‘What Is It That I Did That Is So Fundamentally Wrong?’»

    – - Well…if you have to ask…


  3. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    Really,,, I feel for ya, Alberto… no, I do… sniff, sniff…

    Oh, TP, you forgot Alberto’s testimony in front of Congress in 2007 when he repeatedly said he just couldn’t remember what had been said or done at the DoJ…

    Sweet Baby jeebus… he sounded EXACTLY like an old-time mobster on the stand.

    Are these clowns REALLY that clueless?


  4. Perry logan says:

    They really don’t know when to shut up, do they?


  5. Fred says:

    Yeah, I’m sure that’s exactly the way nixon felt too.

    so do all of these criminals:
    Colin Powell
    Douglas Feith
    George Tenet
    Scooter Libby
    Donald Rumsfeld
    John Bolton
    John Ashcroft
    Paul McNulty
    Monica Goodling
    Kyle Sampson
    Tom Delay
    Duke Cunningham
    Jack Abramoff
    Robert E. Coughlin II
    Jeff Gannon/James Guckert
    Bob Ney
    Mark Foley
    Katherine Harris
    Scott McClellan
    Ari Fleischer
    Michael Brown
    Paul Wolfowitz
    Tony Blair
    Dan Bartlett
    Tim Griffin


  6. DNFP says:

  7. Jane E. Schneider says:

    OMG, he’s even more clueless than I thought.


  8. Badmoodman says:

    - – The WSJ reports that Fredo is writing a “tell-all” book about his BushCo experience. It’s possible this will be too short for even Reader’s Digest.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/12/31/gonzales-to-write-tell-al_n_154425.html


  9. Wayne A. Schneider says:

    The fact that you can’t figure out what you did that was so fundamentally wrong is precisely why you were unfit to be the Attorney General in the first place. Where did Bush find these people (if not up his own a$$)?


  10. Wayne A. Schneider says:

    Tom Tomorrow nailed this guy with this great cartoon.


  11. Bob says:

    He’s sort of the best of the worst since we actually got him to resign and be replaced. That’s the only silver lining in this dark, dark cloud of the bush administration.


  12. Tallygirl says:

    The only thing I might believe is that Ashcroft was as lucid as he’d ever been in White House meetings. I’m sure I’d be completely out of it in that I can’t listen to either Bush or Cheney for any length of time without becoming filled with despair and/or longing for death.


  13. JosephP says:

    The question I would most like to ask Gonzalez is: Did the President himself call Mrs. Ashcroft in order to get her to relent and allow himself and Andrew Card to visit Ashcroft at his hospital bed?

    I believe that, when Ashcroft was hospitalized, he and his deputy Comey realized that Gonzalez and his allies may try to use that as an opportunity to do an end-run and implement the most controversial aspect of their warrantless wiretapping program (whatever that aspect was—it remains secret—but evidently so controversial that even Ashcroft had problems with it). He and Comey drafted up a “Acting Director” statement that would still require Justice approval for such proposals from the Acting Director Comey. They then instructed Mrs. Ashcroft from preventing any hospital visits during the time Ashcroft was incapacitated.

    But what they didn’t figure on was the extent Gonzalez, Cheney, Yoo, Addington, and Bush would go to to push this controversial program through. There is a rumor that the President himself called Mrs. Ashcroft and asked her to allow the late-night visit, during the time Ashcroft was evidently at his sickest. This rumor has never been denied by the President or any of the principals.

    So, now that Gonzalez is in a talking mood, he can clear that up for all of us.


  14. krystalviews says:

    Fred
    Your list is perfect for a Guantamo-style resort population ! Let us apply ” enhanced appreciation” on all those criminals !


  15. CParis says:

    Since his resignation, Gonzales has still been unable to find work.

    I wonder why none of the GOP stink tanks have hired him. Maybe they think he’s an illegal terrist brown person?


  16. Jane E. Schneider says:

    Good point about the ’stink tanks’, CParis, usually they welcome any neocon with open arms. Gonzales must really be giving off a stench!

    Regardless, I do find it very cheering to know that no one will hire Gonzales. Happy New Year!


  17. Anonymouse says:

    I’m beginning to wonder if these guys were spoking opium for the past eight years – he sounds like a cult member, pre-deprogramming.


  18. Zooey says:

    Gonzo, if you have to ask, you’ll never understand the answer.


  19. marlow says:

    An out of power suck-up clinging to the weakest and most immature of defense mechanisms: denial. There’s no place for this little lump of pond scum to go but further down. I look forward to finding you in an alley somewhere, Gonzo.


  20. Briseadh na Faire says:

    This may help understand recovering (or not) Republicans and what they’re going through:

    Defenses
    Following is a list of defenses and some information about them. The list is not exhaustive, but covers the big ones.
    Displacement — One way to avoid the risk associated with feeling unpleasant emotions is to displace them, or put them somewhere other than where they belong. A common example is being angry at your boss. Displaying that anger could cost you your job. You might be afraid that you can not contain it, but also afraid of what will happen if you express it toward your boss. You might instead express it, but redirect it toward some other, safer source, such as your partner or best friend. You yell at them and pick a fight. They will forgive you or ignore it, and then you are able to express your anger but without risking your job.

    Sublimation — Related to displacement is sublimation, or the healthy redirection of an emotion. Instead of punching your boss when angry with him, instead of taking out your anger on your friends, you go to the gym and punch a punching bag. Other examples include turning the painful loss of a child into a campaign to increase child safety laws, turning a generally high degree of aggression into professional football, and turning the pain and resentment of a physical injury into a drive to overcome a disability.

    Projection — Projection is something we all do. It is the act of taking something of ourselves and placing it outside of us, onto others; sometimes we project positive and sometimes negative aspects of ourselves. Sometimes we project things we don’t want to acknowledge about ourselves, and so we turn it around and put it on others (i.e., “It’s not that I made a stupid mistake, it’s that you are critical of everything I do!”). Sometimes it is simply our experiences (i.e., “My father was a reasonable man when we disagreed, so if I use reason with my boss we can work out our disagreement”).

    The problem with projecting negative aspects of ourselves is that we still suffer under them. In the above example, instead of feeling inadequate (our true feeling) we suffer with the feeling that everyone is critical of us. While we escape feelings of inadequacy and vulnerability, we nonetheless still suffer and feel uneasy. The more energy you put into avoiding the realization that you have weaknesses, the more difficult it eventually is to face them. This is the main defense mechanism of paranoid and anti-social personalities.

    Rationalization — Rationalization is often called the “sour grapes defense.” This comes from one of Aesop’s fables. The fox wanted some grapes, but could not reach them. This caused him to feel pain, as he could not have what he wanted. He rationalized, “They were probably sour anyway” to turn them into something he didn’t really want, and thus couldn’t really be upset about not getting. It is an intellectual way to diminish pain or guilt. The old “They’re 50% less fat so I can eat twice as many” routine is the same. You make up a “logical” argument to avoid guilt.

    Fantasy — Fantasy can be a good or a pathological defense. Fantasizing involves creating an inner world when the real world becomes too painful, difficult, or stressful. Thinking about your upcoming vacation when work gets stressful is a healthy use of fantasy. However, if you don’t solve problems, but only daydream about them being solved for you, if you avoid potentially problematic responsibilities and only fantasize about having rewarding challenges and experiences, fantasy becomes too much.

    Intellectualization — Related to rationalization, intellectualization involves removing the emotion from emotional experiences, and discussing painful events in detached, uncaring, sterile ways. Someone who intellectualizes becomes very distant from their feelings, and when asked to describe their feelings may find it difficult. They may understand all the words that describe feelings, but have no idea what they really feel.

    Denial — Denial is the simplest defense to understand. It is simply the refusal to acknowledge what has, is, or will happen. “My partner didn’t have an affair, but was simply traveling for work a lot.” A related defense is Minimizing. When you minimize you technically accept what happened, but only in a “watered down” form. “Sure, I have been drinking a bit too much lately, but it’s only due to stresses at work; I don’t really have a drinking problem since this is situational and not an inner weakness or something.”

    Repression/Suppression — Repression is often thought of as the parent of all defenses. Repression involves putting painful thoughts and memories out of our minds and forgetting them. All defenses do this to some extent. Traditionally, repression is unconsciously “forgetting,” that is, forgetting and not even realizing that you are doing it. You have no conscious memory or knowledge of that which is repressed. Suppression is when you consciously forget something, or make the choice to avoid thinking about it.

    The problem with repression is that the memory, feeling, or insight repressed doesn’t go away. It continues to effect us because our unconscious gives it a life of its own. It becomes all the more powerful because we repress it, and it can effect our decisions, reactions, etc… in ways that we don’t see but others may.


  21. Shayne says:

    For 8 years the only news these Bushco criminals have watched is Fox. They’re so stupid they believe their own press. Maybe if they had ever bothered to look outside their circle of jerks they’d have had some clue about what the American people were thinking.


  22. ElBruce says:

    Cheney, check. Gonzo, check. I’m hoping we’ll hear the whole “I don’t know why nobody likes me” whine from all of the major actors of the Bush administration before this is all over, including Bush.

    .

    krystalviews Says:

    Fred
    Your list is perfect for a Guantamo-style resort population ! Let us apply ” enhanced appreciation” on all those criminals !

    I was thinking maybe we should keep Gitmo around for exactly that reason.

    .

    CParis Says:

    I wonder why none of the GOP stink tanks have hired him. Maybe they think he’s an illegal terrist brown person?

    Bush seems to have been the only Republican I’ve ever heard of who was willing to hire Hispanics.


  23. mausium says:

    FCUK YOU TRAITOR.

    Their clothes aren’t that bad, sheesh.


  24. livelongandprosper says:

    I consider myself a casualty, one of the many casualties of the war on terror.

    There’s thousands of Iraqi’s and US Service men and woman who ARE casualties of the war on terror. Too say you are also a casualty is extremely arrogant and selfish. Phuck You.


  25. mk3872 says:

    Gonzo only has to wait a few more weeks until W is out of office before he’ll find work again. The loyalties in W’s inner circle will guarantee work again for Gonzo, he needn’t worry.


  26. Max-1 says:

    .

    So, the criminal insists that he’s the victim?

    .


  27. fletc3her says:

    I’m sure Gonzales knows better than anyone what crimes he has committed, but asking him to admit to them is just never going to happen. He’ll look you right in the eye and lie.


  28. CParis says:

    ElBruce says:
    Bush seems to have been the only Republican I’ve ever heard of who was willing to hire Hispanics.

    Yup! Looks like that RNC “Outreach to Minorities” program is working real well. Doofi.


  29. ElBruce says:

    The real crime is that this guy did manage to find a job. At a famously “liberal university” no less.


  30. spencers mom says:

    Fred, great list, but did you intentionally leave off Rove and Addington, let alone Bush and Cheney?

    I hope the Obama administration doesn’t borrow a page from Ford and decide that the country’s been through enough and needs to move on, not look back. If crimes are not prosecuted, it only emboldens the enemy, i.e. the criminal wing of the GOP.

    PEACE


  31. sacopenapa says:

    Gonzo… you are a WAR CRIMINAL. You have comited WAR CRIMES by endorsing, promoting and helping to install the USA’s TORTURE PROGRAM. You don’t deserve unemployment. YOU DESERVE EXECITUION BY DEATH SQUAD.


  32. honeygreen says:

    Gonzales asked the question that had been asked by animals like Adolf Hitler, Saddam Hussein, and many other scumbags whose miserable life have caused so much suffering and pain upon humanity. This guy makes the Mexicans look so bad.


  33. honeygreen says:

    This would be the same question Gonzales asks the court in Hague when he and his co-conspirators like D. Cheney and G. W. Bush appear before the judges.


  34. Zooey says:

    honeygreen Says:
    This guy makes the Mexicans look so bad.
    December 31st, 2008 at 2:09 pm

    This guy makes Republicans look bad. He’s not a lying, scumbag, amoral twit because he’s Mexican.


  35. theHaitiMan says:

    at least Gonzo realizes people despise him unlike Rover, Big Time and Chimpy


  36. 5150 says:

    “For some reason, I am portrayed as the one who is evil in formulating policies that people disagree with. I consider myself a casualty, one of the many casualties of the war on terror.”

    The first casualty of war is the truth.


  37. Fred says:

    spencers mom Says:
    Fred, great list, but did you intentionally leave off Rove and Addington, let alone Bush and Cheney?

    Hi mom, the list started as a neocons down list…..I am waiting to add the others to the list when it eventually happens…..


  38. honeygreen says:

    This moron Gonzales is nothing but just another disgusting fart from Bush’s “F” Team.


  39. Art says:

    If he can’t find a job, maybe he and Cheney can start their own business together.
    Any suggestions?


  40. Art says:

    I’m thinking a PR firm.


  41. krazeeinjun says:

    “I consider myself a casualty, one of the many casualties of the war on terror.”

    What an insipid little weasel. The shameless audacity of that statement alone ought to be taken into account when it comes time to determine the length of Alberto’s prison sentence.

    Just saying . . .


  42. honeygreen says:

    Art Says:
    If he can’t find a job, maybe he and Cheney can start their own business together.
    Any suggestions?

    _______

    How about starting a smuggling operation along the Mexican border?


  43. Witch1 says:

    How do I respond to a criminal.? I can not.. Gonzo is not employed but most of the guilty still are….Will all of them go free with out charge’s? I hope not….Peace, Blessings and Justice


  44. Luis M says:

    honeygreen Says:
    This guy makes the Mexicans look so bad.
    December 31st, 2008 at 2:09 pm

    HEY! I resent that remark.

    honeygreen Says:
    How about starting a smuggling operation along the Mexican border?

    Oh nonono, he’s not smuggling himself into Mexico. We don’t want him, you can keep him locked up in GITMO for all we care.


  45. Wayne says:

    Boo-frickin-hoo for Gonzo.

    Why would anyone want to hire a corrupt ex-AG anyway?
    He can always try for unemployment… oh, he resigned and was not fired, so he does not qualify… hahahahahahaha


  46. Gregor Samsa says:

    Well, gee golly, I wonder too…

    Was it the rationalising the torture of detainees?

    The coming up with legal excuses for illegal wiretaps?

    The trampling of the constitution?

    Or the overall I-do-as-my-master-commands attitude?

    I wonder what it was?

    ::doe-eyed look::


  47. honeygreen says:

    ElBruce Says:

    The real crime is that this guy did manage to find a job. At a famously “liberal university” no less.

    _____

    Yoo is nothing more than a Neo-con operative. He’s traded in his soul and now is functional only as a machine. Degrees from universities like Yale and Harvard have become meaningless because of scumbags like Yoo and Bush.


  48. rmwarnick says:

    We have to keep in mind that we still know very little about what was done behind closed doors in the Bush administration. Gonzales probably won’t be the one to tell us, but there are bound to be more revelations.


  49. honeygreen says:

    Luis M Says:
    HEY! I resent that remark.

    Is Gonzales not the only Mexican in this high-profile position in the Bush administration?


  50. hanshiro says:

    Gilderoy Gonzales is apparently planning to write “about all the heroic adventures he has had over the years.”

    Too bad about that memory charm/wand backfire. Most embarrassing.


  51. Zooey says:

    hanshiro Says:
    December 31st, 2008 at 2:44 pm

    Best Harry Potter reference ever!


  52. ElBruce says:

    Art Says:

    I’m thinking a PR firm.

    Unlikely, as this is a horrible way to go about re-establishing a reputation. He’s just whining. The Left will never forgive him, and the Right won’t ever give respect to disloyal girly whiners like he’s being.

    So he says he’s going to write a book that points fingers at everyone around him, but he won’t include talking about anything he’s under investigation for (i.e. all the good stuff). Such a tome would serve no purpose whatsoever except to make him feel better. It won’t earn him a shred of respect from any side, and in fact does him significant harm.

    What’s the title going to be? “It, it wasn’t my fault I did that stuff, waahhh!”

    .

    honeygreen Says:

    Degrees from universities like Yale and Harvard have become meaningless because of scumbags like Yoo and Bush.

    Oh it’s not Yoo’s degree I take issue with, it’s the fact that at present, Berkeley University cuts him a paycheck.

    Anybody who utters the term “unitary executive theory” with approval should be instantly disbarred, as well as banned from teaching law. You just flunked Schoolhouse Rock, dude; you go away now.


  53. DRxJ says:

    Sorry, off topic and because there are no ThinkFast threads this week (although it does pertain as Gonzalez is a butt head):
    Why does the TP filter automatically reject an@l and any words that contain it (can@l, an@lyze, etc.)?
    It’s not a swear word, is a correct anatomical terminology, and at times, can be deemed appropriate (hell, PG rated movies and TV shows use it all the time).
    TP, can you just remove that damn filter? It’s tough typing a well thought out post only to have it suddenly under moderation.
    Okay, back on topic.
    Gonzalez is a mucking foron, and I’m not proud that he was once from my neck of the woods.


  54. wiley says:

    In a congressional hearing he couldn’t recall 64 times. Maybe that’s why this escapes him. Really though, people who can’t recall what they’ve done recently should be removed from office. It’s amazing what these people can get away with.


  55. Leftside Annie says:

    What a pathetically stupid little man.


  56. Abu Ben Hussein Leporello says:

    This is like the worst of the Three Stooges, and I regret insulting the Three Stooges. It’s like Gonzo is saying he’s not responsible, ’cause he’s a moron! Moe, Larry, the Cheese! Woo Woo Woo Woo Woo Woo Woo Woo!!!
    2009, Year of the Indictments!


  57. Max-1 says:

    .

    Gonzo is like the rapist that pleads to the judge, “Honestly, what did I do? She was in a skirt.”

    .


  58. CParis says:

    Maybe Gonzo could join Gooliani & Partners? Or partner with Rudy’s BFF Bernie Kerik and sell Tasers?

    He might just declare himself a bank-holding company and qualify for some of that TARP cash.


  59. Max-1 says:

    #29 ElBruce Says:

    The real crime is that this guy did manage to find a job. At a famously “liberal university” no less.

    Damn librul institutions…(/snark)


  60. Game of Life says:

    typical repugs: they don’t acknowledge proof. they deny the truth and lie. Then they have the audacity to say, “Hey folks give us 20-30 yrs you will surely thank us.” They should pay for their crimes now and let the future fall will it may.

    repugs will be mock for centuries.

    Are all repugs gonna use the tired stale line? Are they kidding me? This nonsense has to stop. Crooks all of them.

    repugs are imploding on their self-inflicted bullshit. repugs are dangerous and very stupid a deadly combination.

    They will fake surprise and aghast when their popularity shrink to the worse of the worse.


  61. Max-1 says:

    .

    Honestly, I’m surprised that Gonzo could recall…
    … at all!!!

    .


  62. barfly says:

    I predicted this, right after he resigned.

    Same goes with Bush: what company or organization would take the chance of being associated with either of them?

    Too much chance of being dragged into a lawsuit.


  63. curious says:

    This man should never find a job. I don’t know which law school graduated this dimwit, but they should be ashamed.

    Look, you cannot expect to be forgiven anything when you claim not to understand. Anyone with no common sense, no ethical mainstay, and can be easily coerced or bought can expect to find a job outside of the Bush administration. This is the only criterion for being a Bush appointee. Along with blind loyalty.

    When you embrace loyalty to a seriously corrupt organization you pay a price. This man was very willing to attach himself to Bush. He substituted loyalty in place of the conscience and ethical conduct. He was the Presidents yes man. One of many. He did not have the backbone to tell the President no. And he probably did not have the intelligence either. He was easily browbeaten by those with stronger personalities.

    And one more thing. Bush was rich. He came from a rich family and Alberto was impressed by this. He should have done some checking to see how the Bush family made their money. And GW was the son of a President too. Just imagine how Alberto must have felt. He fell into the gravy train. All he had to do was ride it. He never did think ahead to what might happen when or if Bush might someday not be as popular and might be disgraced.

    He should have seen the hand writing. And because he was not too bright it never occurred to him to wonder what all the talk about the illegalities was about. He never had an independent thought working for Bush. Alberto was and is expendable. He will write a book. He will try to do what others do, a book of self justification. He will not have done a thing wrong. Wait for the book.


  64. Jackie says:

    Since Gonzo doesn’t know Law I’d advise he get a lawyer to explain his crimes. Allowing Karl Roven and Dick Cheney to run the Department of Justice while Gonzo signed what he was ordered makes it a crime in so many ways. Smart move on Bush’s part to appoint someone much like himself he was given a College Degree without having to learn anything.


  65. Wayne A. Schneider says:

    So, when the day finally comes that Alberto Gonzales is under sworn oath to tell the truth, will he rely on his “well-documented” memory retention problem as an excuse for why his sworn testimony doesn’t match his testimony before Congress? I’m no lawyer, but I don’t think the excuse “I forgot which lie I told” is going to get him off the hook.


  66. celtic cynic says:

    Apparently Gonzo reads the same newspapers and magazines as the other intellectuals Sarah Palin, George Bush and Dick Cheney – all the news and opinion that’s fit to ignore.


  67. republicanSScareme says:

    Gonzales: ‘What Is It That I Did That Is So Fundamentally Wrong?’

    You got up in the morning, retard.


  68. drew3rd says:

    I liked Alberto. He was tough, underhanded and motivated. Every president needs a guy who will do the dirty work. Spying on and torturing Islamo-crazies is the job of hearty individuals. I am as thankful for men like that as I am homosexuals who create such beautiful fashions for my wife. America cannot be just one way or the other. We need to continue to support our warriors as we support our peacelovers. Too much of either is a bad thing.


  69. Zooey says:

    drew3rd Says:
    December 31st, 2008 at 3:51 pm

    Seek help immediately, and do not venture into public spaces without assistance.


  70. nanlichi says:

    Seriously drew, you are one fcked up individual.


  71. Jane E. Schneider says:

    “He was tough, underhanded and motivated.”

    “Tough?” In what way? Do you equate sticking to an unbelievable lie with ‘toughness’? And “motivated” – to do what? Trash the Constitution? Be the perfect Bush lickspittle? I don’t think that these words mean what you think they mean.


  72. dbadass says:

    drew3rd is all over looking for attention. He once was at a national park maybe “Arcadia” when it went all OK Corral apparantly…


  73. theHaitiMan says:

    i think Cheney and Gonzo could go on Broadway and reprise the roles of Dick Dasterdly and Muttley the Dog.


  74. ElBruce says:

    OK Alberto, we’ll break it down for you.

    Just about everything that freedom loving progressives (aka Real Americans) hate that’s happened over the last eight years went through you.

    Warrantless wiretaps.
    Torture.
    Suspension of habeus corpus.
    Extroardinary rendition.
    Signing statements.

    … that’s just a handful off of the top of my head, but it’s more than enough.

    These were, and remain, constitutional crises of the highest order. And every time the White House wanted to do something that anybody who’s seen an episode of Schoolhouse Rock knows is flat out illegal and unconstitutional, they went to you, and they asked you whether it would be legal for them to do so.

    And you told them “yes,” because you knew what they wanted to hear. You rigged the Office of Legal Counsel with Bush cronies so that they could deliver opinions to the White House that the DoJ would not treat those crimes as the crimes they are.

    Back when the Soviet Union was getting started, it was – or tried to be – a fairly meritocritous system. Sort of democratish, multiple layers of officials elected to committees (”Soviet” means “Committee”). Then one day, Josef Stalin noticed that due to a glaring loophole, the position of General Secretary (previously thought to be a career dead ender) could hypothetically be used to stack the Politburo with loyal cronies, who could then in turn vote the General Secretary as much power as he wanted. I think we all know how that story ended.

    You have exposed a similar glaring loophole in the U.S. Constitution, one that is going to need constant vigilance (or some kind of Amendment fix) in order to prevent the U.S.A. from literally becoming a fascist state. If the only ones who can prevent illegal activity by the President is the DoJ, and the DoJ is stacked with loyal cronies, then the President has unlimited power. He could throw the Senate in Gitmo, execute the Supreme Court, whatever he wanted, and Democracy’s only recourse would be whether the DoJ was willing to prosecute the people who committed those crimes, or to appoint a special prosecutor as appropriate.

    Therefore, everything that’s been done to twist, warp, shred and skirt the Constitution was done because you chose to let it happen. It was your job to stop it.

    So in answer to your question, Alberto, that’s what you did that’s so fundamentally wrong. Now you know.


  75. Briseadh na Faire says:


    Guido the Loving OBGYN Says:
    I’ve got a job for Gonzo. In a hole. Laying pipe.

    But only if the pipe consents!

    buh-dum PUM!


  76. Fred says:

    drew3rd Says:
    I liked Alberto. I like liars and cheaters and cowards. I don’t care what anybody says, we need scum to balance our society………

    warrior????? Only if you consider Benidict Arnold to be a warrior……


  77. SamTheMan says:

    This reminds me of that Seinfeld episode where George has sex with the cleaning woman on his desk after hours in his office.
    After being found out, He asks his boss, “Was that wrong?…”
    Priceless


  78. Fred says:

    drew3rd Says:
    I liked Alberto. He was tough, underhanded and motivated.

    Now he’s whining, in public, cause he can’t get a job….not so tough now is he?

    motivated? What’s he doing now if he’s so “motivated”?

    That’s what being underhanded gets ya.


  79. Wayne A. Schneider says:

    drew3rd Says:

    I liked Alberto. He was tough, underhanded and motivated. Every president needs a guy who will do the dirty work.

    Actually, since the president is constitutionally required to take care that the laws be “faithfully executed”, he should have no such person in his employ. Another example, Karl Rove.


  80. Bilbo Hussein Baggins says:

    It’s hard to believe he can remain so clueless. It’s no wonder no one wants to hire him.


  81. dbearton says:

    Throw him in jail, then he will have plenty of time to think about it.


  82. mausium says:

    It’s hard to believe he can remain so clueless. It’s no wonder no one wants to hire him.

    It’s not that he doesn’t know what he did, it’s that he’s surprised that he’s not as untouchable as the rest, that they’re no longer protecting him and offering him deals through the usual network.

    Heck, I’m surprised that there aren’t other private conservative agencies glad to work with someone so pliable.


  83. ElBruce says:

    drew3rd Says:

    I liked Alberto. He was tough, underhanded and motivated. Every president needs a guy who will do the dirty work. Spying on and torturing Islamo-crazies is the job of hearty individuals. I am as thankful for men like that as I am homosexuals who create such beautiful fashions for my wife. America cannot be just one way or the other. We need to continue to support our warriors as we support our peacelovers. Too much of either is a bad thing.

    I just sort of let this pass by as I figured it wasn’t serious. Apparently, it is.

    OK. Sure, there are some underhanded things that sometimes need doing, like spying. However, the “underhanded guy” should be in the CIA, not heading the DoJ. The job of the DoJ is to defend Justice, not to commit or approve of heinous acts, which is the opposite. And torture does not “need” to be done by anyone, anywhere, at any time, for any reason.

    It’s not about warriors vs. peacelovers. Gonzo never shot at anybody in his life. It’s about good vs. evil.

    What you’re saying here is that it’s necessarily to abandon all ethics and morality and capitulate to evil, or at least meet it halfway. Because it’s expedient, because it’s useful much in the same way that you find homosexuals useful.

    So, basically I stand in opposition to everything you represent. We agree to disagree on a rather grand scale here, such that I will only be satisfied when your shriveled black soul makes its final long fall into the lowest pits of hell. When that happens, I just hope my spittle can catch up with you before you fry.


  84. Bilbo Hussein Baggins says:

  85. livelongandprosper says:

    I’ve got a job for Alberto. Cleaning toilets at Guantanamo.


  86. TomR says:

    Gonzales is either playing dumb or is actually dumb.

    If a guy like this can become a state Supreme Court Justice, we need to clean out the American judicial barn ASAP.

    As Governor Bush’s counsel in Texas, Gonzales also reviewed all clemency requests. A 2003 article in The Atlantic Monthly asserts that Gonzales gave insufficient counsel, and failed to second-guess convictions and failed appeals. Only one death sentence was over-turned by Governor Bush, and the state of Texas executed more prisoners during Gonzales’ term than any other state.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alberto_Gonzales

    We can’t have creeps like this involved in legal life and death decisions about American citizens.

    - Tom


  87. Robin says:

    This is simple really: they are both either really stupid, or lying… take your pick.


  88. dottoreholliday says:

    Someone should tell Gonzales that the public’s view is “What Didn’t You Do That Was Fundamentally Wrong?”

    You can talk to your patron George W. Bush or Dick Cheney to give you a job starting January 20th. I’m sure they would oblige.

    Personally, I think you are fortunate to have retained your law license this long.


  89. pete says:

    How the Hell could he write anything without proving himself a perjurer? The problem with the Sargent Schulz defense is that, once you say you know nothing, anything that follows is an admission of guilt.


  90. pete says:

    Plus. Gonzo is the most likely of the bunch to end up living under a bridge, if not in prison. He’s the one guy who actually managed to embarrass the inner circle.


  91. Marie says:

    He CAN’T be serious!
    Playing the “poor little me” card.
    Everybody’s picking on widdle Gonzo. Aww.


  92. Max-1 says:

    .

    Dear Drew,
    Are you calling George W. Bush a LIAR?
    He claims the USA does NOT torture, yet you celebrate the use of torture as admitted by the Administration. Shame on you for calling Bush a LIAR… NO?

    Look Drew, Americans used to be, I repeat, USED TO BE proud it’s country stood for high principles and morals that protected and fought for humane treatment of people, captured or free. But now that America prides itself on undermining these long standing principles and traditions, you’re all for that?

    Drew, how do you sleep at night knowing you support unethical behavior? What God do you pray to that commends your support for such acts against your fellow man? How should the “GOLDEN RULE” be applied to people like you who cheer on evil?

    .


  93. Greytdog says:

    Here’s yer sign – STUPID


  94. Alecto says:

    CParis Says:

    Since his resignation, Gonzales has still been unable to find work.

    I wonder why none of the GOP stink tanks have hired him. Maybe they think he’s an illegal terrist brown person?

    Hmmm,
    Maybe the stink tanks are having a hard time finding his legitimacy of citizenship, since his parents were illegal immigrants. Hmmm, I wonder.


  95. Alecto says:

    livelongandprosper Says:

    I’ve got a job for Alberto. Cleaning toilets at Guantanamo.

    No, no, How about being the person who REPAIRS the Qurans that are violated and defaced in the toilets in Gitmo.

    Yes, spend your days fixing the things you made.


  96. Bad Eye says:

    Cheney, Bush, and now Gonzales all seem so smug in the waning days of the administration. And why not? They so far have gotten everything they wished for, for 8 years, and other than Congress writing a few letters demanding information (most of which were ignored) and having a few hearings on various topics, they have not had to answer for anything.


  97. stewarjt says:

    Gonzales must be retarded.


  98. hussein toasterhead says:

    drew3rd Says:

    I liked Alberto. He was tough, underhanded and motivated. Every president needs a guy who will do the dirty work. Spying on and torturing Islamo-crazies is the job of hearty individuals.

    December 31st, 2008 at 3:51 pm
    _________

    Torture is the job of nobody in a civilized and democratic society. Torture is only a legitimate profession in a fascist dictatorship.

    There is absolutely no reason to torture anyone. Period. “Islamo-crazy” or “Jewo-crazy” or “Nazi-crazy” or anyone. Torture is pure evil.


  99. hussein toasterhead says:

    This seems particularly germane here:

    I know that President Bush has many extremely competent speech writers, but I would like to volunteer for the job myself. I propose the following short address, which he can make on television to the nation. I see him grave, hair carefully combed, serious, winning, sincere, often beguiling, sometimes employing a wry smile, curiously attractive, a man’s man.

    “God is good. God is great. God is good. My god is good. Bin Laden’s god is bad. His is a bad god. Saddam’s god was bad, except he didn’t have one. He was a barbarian. We are not barbarians. We don’t chop people’s heads off. We believe in freedom. So does God. I am not a barbarian. I am the democratically elected leader of a freedom-loving democracy. We are a compassionate society. We give compassionate electrocution and compassionate lethal injection. We are a great nation. I am not a dictator. He is. I am not a barbarian. He is. They all are. I possess moral authority. You see this fist? This is my moral authority. And don’t you forget it.”

    Harold Pinter, 1930-2008
    http://www.democracynow.org/2008/12/31/harold_pinter_1930_2008_part_2


  100. MapleStreet says:

    Gonzo the Great

    You can’t figure it out ?

    You must be one really , really great lawyer – than fine tuned ability for an****lytic thinking and all.

    OTOH – Gonzo, Cheney, et al may be proof that someone may have decreased culpability due to invicible ignorance.


  101. Marie says:

    toasterhead — thanks for the link to Pinter’s speech.


  102. ElBruce says:

    MapleStreet Says:

    OTOH – Gonzo, Cheney, et al may be proof that someone may have decreased culpability due to invicible ignorance.

    Screw that. I used to spend hours trying to figure out if Bush and his various cronies were really, really stupid or really, really evil. I finally decided it doesn’t matter at all: their crimes must be treated as the heinous acts of treason that they are. Incompetence is no more of a moral defense than is malevolence.


  103. Musk says:

    LOL . . . Damn Fredo, you insignificant little weasle. You really are that stupid!



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