Bush will use federal funds to install security gate to protect his Dallas home.
Bush will use federal funds to install security gate to protect his Dallas home.
After he leaves office on Jan. 20, President Bush will be giving up his photo-op Crawford ranch and moving to the affluent Dallas neighborhood known as Preston Hollow. Newsweek noted that the Bush family has “found a friendly pocket” in a Texas county that went for Obama. But Bush isn’t taking any chances. He will be using federal funds to build a security gate around his “friendly pocket.” The Dallas Morning News reports:
Dallas City Manager Mary Suhm confirmed Monday that the younger Bush is seeking to have a gate placed somewhere along the entrance to streets leading to his future Preston Hollow address.
The plan, which requires approval by the Dallas City Council, isn’t expected to encounter much opposition at City Hall, and the Bushes’ neighbors seem to be on board.
So far, several options to limit access to the Bushes’ new street have been discussed. But a final decision on exactly where to place the gate hasn’t been recommended, Suhm said.
Federal money would pay for the gate, not the city, she said.
“The Bushes apparently bought a four-bedroom, ranch-style home at 10141 Daria Place through a private trust that Mr. Bush established after he was elected governor. The county appraises the house at nearly $2.1 million, but the home sold for considerably more.”
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I don’t see any brush? Was that whole ranch crap a scam? Isn’t this guy a rugged cowboy?
January 6th, 2009 at 3:52 pmHow much of a photo op was the Crawford ranch? I’ve never seen a photo of it except for an aerial shot taken before Bush became President and the airspace was closed.
January 6th, 2009 at 3:53 pmHe could move to a community that already has a gate protecting it…
January 6th, 2009 at 3:54 pmlike the prison at Leavenworth.
As a taxpayer I would like for that gate to lock from the outside.
January 6th, 2009 at 3:54 pmCan’t have the neighborhood kids TP-ing his trees, can we? Especially on Monday, the 19th, when all the kids are off from school for the MLK holiday.
January 6th, 2009 at 3:55 pmI’ll help pay for it if we can lock it from the outside.
January 6th, 2009 at 3:55 pmArt and ElBruce…….funny guys, eh?
January 6th, 2009 at 3:56 pmif it seals him and his stepford wife in so they can never get out, i’m all for it!
January 6th, 2009 at 3:57 pmElBruce owes Fred a coke.
I’m all for taking cheap shots at Bush. He belongs in jail, if not in front of a firing squad.
But this is just…I mean, if he were any other President, I’d WANT a gate to protect him. This, and the Kempthorne $235K bathroom seem to be marking TP and the liberal blogosphere really scraping the bottom of the barrel. I guess I’m experiencing the extremity of Bush Fatigue. Two more short weeks…and then the investigations begin, I pray, with fervor.
January 6th, 2009 at 3:58 pmDo the neighbors get any say in all this? This appears to be an established neighborhood, and presumably there are people who have been living there long before the Bushes considered buying this house.
I know that if an ex-president (even one I liked) wanted to move onto my street, I might have some issues with security gates being erected and access to my street being limited.
January 6th, 2009 at 3:58 pmtwo more weeks…
January 6th, 2009 at 3:59 pm“and the Bushes’ neighbors seem to be on board.” proving on again rapeublicans are nothing more than welfare queens…they get to live in a gated community (raising their real estate values) at tax payer’s expense.
hope they have a strong stomach to deal with the stench of urine coming from the gate and the feces speed bumps in front of it.
January 6th, 2009 at 4:01 pmAnyone who can afford a multi-million dollar home can afford his own damn gate.
January 6th, 2009 at 4:04 pmIf he wants to be real secure, he could move to Alcatraz, no one could bother him there.
tony and lido
Plug the address into Google Maps. You can’t see much because of the trees, although Streetview does have a glimpse of the house. It’s an itty bitty shack compared to the estate just a tad south. That’s one neighbor that won’t mind a gate.
January 6th, 2009 at 4:05 pmIf he wants the security of being behind bars, might we suggest The Hague?
January 6th, 2009 at 4:07 pmHeh. Chimpy probably realizes – dimly, of course – that the people he needs protection from are the AMERICAN people.
January 6th, 2009 at 4:07 pmPretty sad when dummya has to request the entire road be gated off for his security. must have sucked for him when he realized he is the most hated American president ever. not even Nixon had to take such etreme measures.
January 6th, 2009 at 4:09 pmI know where there’s a gate that’s not being used since they put the cattle guard in.
It’s a 3 strand double twist, not too rusty, the poles are good and the wire’s fair…
January 6th, 2009 at 4:10 pmWhy in the hell should we have to pay for a gate to limit access to his street? If he can afford to purchase a 2.1 million dollar home, I would think that he can afford a frickin’ gate.
If his “neighbors seem to be on board” and have no problem with their own access to their street being held up due to a security gate, then let them pitch in and pay for it.
I honestly do not see why this should be a tax payer expense. This is bullsh!t. Plain and simple bullsh!t.
January 6th, 2009 at 4:15 pmWho cares if we have to pay for a cage for that idiot to be gone . .
If that fool is gated behind bars, he can’t cause any more carnage and embarrassment for our country. Besides where is Bubble going anyway?? It’s not like he has a job or will be heading up a foundation to do humanitarian work or [cough, cough] writing a book . .
January 6th, 2009 at 4:19 pmHe’s also going to need a tall fence to keep the flying shoes out. I have a feeling there’s going to be a lot of drive by shoe flinging.
January 6th, 2009 at 4:21 pmHe can have all the gates he wants. Dallas voted for Obama, installed dozens of Democrats in public offices in 2006 and 2008. If he ever leaves his self-imposed “seclusion”, he’ll have close encounters with many Texan middle fingers. I – for one – intend to carry a shoe in my bag at all times.
January 6th, 2009 at 4:22 pmJust in case….
The county appraises the house at nearly $2.1 million, but the home sold for considerably more.
That’s interesting. From whom did he buy this house? Was it a friend of his? Why did he pay “considerably more” for it?
January 6th, 2009 at 4:26 pmNo one would expect a Reich-winger to pay for it himself, do they? It’s the Reich-wing way: Socialism for the haves, capitalism for the have-nots.
January 6th, 2009 at 4:27 pmWell, it’s a start.
Now we only need the guard towers, razor wire and a flaming moat.
January 6th, 2009 at 4:29 pmGeorge will have the access code tattooed (backwards) to his forehead.
January 6th, 2009 at 4:29 pmHopefully he will remember to come to a complete stop before looking in the rear-view mirror.
It’s only taxpayers money but Bush should be more worried about Laura driving. She did run over her boyfriend and who knows with a little pot she might do it again. This time Laura’s Rich Texan boyfriend will get out off again from the murder charge. Daddy Bush has already moved on to Jeb for the Family Legacy and Barbara just can’t stomach it anymore with her idiot son’s low rating. Those girls at the Country Club are talking behind Barbara’s back.
January 6th, 2009 at 4:30 pmWrong, as usual, LTdan. You keep forgetting that it’s not the left-wing loonies that have the guns, it’s the right-wing loonies. Obama has more to fear from the loonies on the right than Bush has to fear from the loonies on the left. We’re not the violent ones, you guys are.
January 6th, 2009 at 4:37 pmLTdan Says:
He deserve those gates, too many loonys running around that could harm him. I wish the best of luck to bush and his family.
He deserves to be behind bars, alright.
January 6th, 2009 at 4:38 pmI hope Dick Cheney spends all his cash for security – being that Bush is being limited by the Secret Service to ten years of coverage.
January 6th, 2009 at 4:40 pmKarma will find him, no matter what obstacles he puts in its path. As he as sown, so shall he reap.
January 6th, 2009 at 4:41 pmIf Only They’d Have Impeached!
LTdan Says:
He deserve those gates, too many loonys running around that could harm him. I wish the best of luck to bush and his family.
Bush was the loony running around harming others.
Please keep up, third-party (GOP) hack.
January 6th, 2009 at 4:41 pmNewsweek noted that the Bush family has “found a friendly pocket” in a Texas county that went for Obama.
I wonder who had to canvass areas for their political opinions just to find a semi-safe place for Bush to live.
I’m thinking that gate is going to end up constantly adorned with shoes. If I lived in the area, I’d contribute some.
Fred says:
…lock from the outside.
(waves fist) CURSE YOUUU!!!
January 6th, 2009 at 4:41 pmWayne A. Schneider Says:
That’s interesting. From whom did he buy this house? Was it a friend of his? Why did he pay “considerably more” for it?
GoogleMaps says “Bill Fisher Real Estate” is at that address, so I’m guessing that’s who actually owned it. Developer?
January 6th, 2009 at 4:43 pmThe Borgen Project has informative statistics on addressing global poverty.
$30 billion ends world hunger
$550 billion is the US Defense budget
This organization has the ability, resources, and policy-makers to suppress the threat of global poverty by enacting legislation here in the US, which is tied to the United Nation’s Millennium Development Goals. Please support organizations such as The Borgen Project so that we may rid the world of poverty.
January 6th, 2009 at 4:44 pmWhy doesn’t he merely build a secret bunker three or four thousand feet down? Preston Hollow in Dallas is situated on top of a limestone substrate. He might even find oil for the first time in his life.
January 6th, 2009 at 4:45 pmI wish the best of luck to bush and his family.
I’ll relay that message to Bush’s parole officer when he or she is born.
January 6th, 2009 at 4:45 pmkrystalviews Says:
I – for one – intend to carry a shoe in my bag at all times.
Just in case….
Excellent! Can we appoint you as head of the Dallas Welcome Wagon? Maybe you can decorate that fence with a nice selection of shoez to welcome Shrubby & Pickles to the neighborhood?
January 6th, 2009 at 4:48 pmgummitch,
That was probably just the agent who sold it on behalf of the owners. I’m interested in knowing who the owners were that got paid “considerably more” than the house was assessed at. Because I want to follow up and make sure they pay their taxes on that windfall profit.
January 6th, 2009 at 4:48 pmYet another day of lavish spending from the GOP’s top man before looking out for the taxpayer suddenly becomes a GOP priority with the Democrats fully in charge.
January 6th, 2009 at 5:03 pmYup, the clown President is taking the federal funds and run before he leaves office. Bush’s United Snakes of Moronica: Land of the theives. Home of the Slaves. 14 days to go.
January 6th, 2009 at 5:06 pmAs much as it galls to think I will be contributing to Chimpy’s comfort, even if it’s only a few pennies, I hope he is kept secure. If someone were to harm him or burn the place to the ground, regardless of provocation, ol’ Chimpy would become a martyr in the eyes of the Reichwhiners. That, IMO, can NOT be allowed to happen.
If President Obama does 10% as well as we hope the GOP base will be reduced to energy industry executives, skinheads, Rapture bound Psychochristians, and Alaskan drug dealers. If Chimpy becomes a martyr we will have to contend with legitimate cries of “librul-fascism”. As much as I would relish an opportunity to beat the (bleep) out of him in person, it would be an unmitigated disaster if someone managed to punish him outside the law.
January 6th, 2009 at 5:21 pmOf course not. Hell, SMU didn’t want the propaganda machine called the Bush library, but it’s being built there anyway.
Bush is used to being despised. In fact, he seems revel in the abhorrance of others toward him. I think it’s something he picked up from Dick Cheney.
January 6th, 2009 at 5:21 pmLTdan Says
January 6th, 2009 at 4:33 pm
He deserve those gates, too many loonys running around that could harm him.
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I don’t think it’s a matter of “deserving” the gate as much as it is of “needing” the gate if the Secret Service has determined it necessary (I will ignore for the moment the obvious question of why more “loonys” (sic) would want to harm Bush than any other ex-president).
It might be fair to compare the costs (and neighborhood impact) of providing security to other ex-presidents — particularly those who have moved to a new house in a new neighborhood upon leaving office (Ronald Reagan, Bill Clinton, Gerald Ford, etc.). Did they require gates to be erected for them? Did they require other security measures? What was the cost of making their new homes and neighborhoods secure?
If this is within the realm of what might be provided for any ex-president, then so be it. If this goes beyond what was provided to Clinton, Reagan, and other ex-presidents, then the gate itself might not be the biggest issue here.
January 6th, 2009 at 5:23 pmI have a really good idea about where he should stick his fence.
January 6th, 2009 at 5:24 pmMy tax dollars will pay for every ex-President’s continued security; I don’t mind a fence if it’s going to help the secret service do their job.
January 6th, 2009 at 5:25 pmI just looked it up on Zillow and that place is within walking distance of where I once lived in Dallas. I lived on Melissa Lane in the 50’s. I used to go over where that neighborhood is and dig up fossils in a limestone up-crop located there. The only anyone would want to locate there would because there were four gas stations at Preston Blvd and Royal Lane that sold gas at about 10 – 12 cents per gallon. They probably stopped that by now, but it was nice paying a buck and half for a fill-up and having the windows cleaned to boot.
January 6th, 2009 at 5:27 pmWe’ll have to excuse your poor grammer and spelling. It must be difficult to type while licking Bush’s balls.
January 6th, 2009 at 5:27 pmThe Borgen Project (borgenproject.org) does a great job comparing the funds necessary to reduce global poverty to the amount of money the US spends on its defense budget.
$30 billion: Annual shortfall to end world hunger.
$550 billion: U.S. Defense budget.
January 6th, 2009 at 5:28 pmIn my last post (not this one) “The only anyone ” s/b “The only reason anyone “
January 6th, 2009 at 5:32 pmLight is the last thing you want on Bush’s legacy. Perhaps you haven’t noticed, but the Bushies are running around the country trying to turn off the lights and pull the curtain on what has happened tha past 8 years, while they make up an alternate history to be read by people 100 years from now.
January 6th, 2009 at 5:33 pmFrank Rich wrote about the ‘photo-op ranch’ in his book “The Greatest Story Ever Sold”.
He wrote:
He then wrote:
So much was stage to manipulate and fake their way through things..
January 6th, 2009 at 5:41 pm“…the ‘photo-op ranch’…”
It all looked very nice, didn’t it?
January 6th, 2009 at 5:46 pmI wonder if it still smelled like an old hog farm….
Nettles Says:
LTdan NEVER mentioned left-wing or right wing, Schneider. Your Progressive Paranoia strikes again!!
Brash rushes to judgement like this are what will, in due time, shed a more positive light on GW Bush’s legacy than he probably will ever deserve. Keep up the good work, TP !!
I took his comment in light of the fact that he regularly bashes liberals and calls them names. Besides, how many right-wing loonies out there want to harm Bush? They love him. Part of their mental illness, I guess.
No, Nettles, I stand by my comment. Thanks for playing.
January 6th, 2009 at 5:52 pmIt would be so much cheaper for the American Tax payers if he just droped dead!
January 6th, 2009 at 6:12 pmHow much it would cost to send him to HAGUE?
January 6th, 2009 at 6:12 pmWell there’s grover and the rest of the socialist/tax hating lunatics that think bush is a socialist for bailing out the car companies…
And some of them think it was right to bail out the financial institutions. Grover and his anti-tax platform is just foolish consistency, and as Emerson said, “A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds.”
January 6th, 2009 at 6:14 pmIf Interpol picks him up, a trip to den Hague is free, we would be propotionally charged for the trial and they don’t execute anyone. If he is renditioned there, your tax dollars pick up the tab. In either case, it cost less than a gate. The most cost effective option would be to rendition him to North Korea or Iran – they would probably supply the airfare, luggage class.
January 6th, 2009 at 6:48 pmI’m gonna find me a big, big dog, feed it a lot of corned beef and cabbage, and walk it in that neighborhood every day.
January 6th, 2009 at 6:55 pmSo right! Send the Criminal Bush to a gated community that keeps people in rather then out.
January 6th, 2009 at 7:08 pmOh more whining about taxes. How novile. Would you like me to pay yours for you? See they pay things. Things that make us better people. You know stuff like care for those in need and those with less… They also pay for all kinds of nice more tangible things like roads and such…
January 6th, 2009 at 7:45 pmWhat is it with the Reichwhiners obsession with not paying bills?
January 6th, 2009 at 7:51 pmRoss Perot? The Chart Wizard? Who was he again and why was he there?
January 6th, 2009 at 8:06 pmHi Tracy:
January 6th, 2009 at 8:25 pmI must have used a no no word. Anyway see the thing is the USA is really big so I would expect some waste. So since you wish to claim expertise here can you itemize all this waste and explain the forces which drive it. Might you also show how based on economies of scale this waste is any more or less than found in the private sector. Now remember I said show me not just preach it. See I have been to those annual conventions at lodging way beyond what was needed and wine way overpriced than needed and food which is picked at and thrown away, and endlessly long unneeded luncheons and tons of fiddly f ucking around on the internet instead of working. I haven’t really been privy to the whoring and more seedy shit but show me how the corporate world is any more or less wasteful…
flying to DC to whine for bailout money seems sort of wasteful. Wouldn’t mass transit have been more economical and fiscally responsible? Now the reason I had to be offered both lobster and prime rib rather than one or the other or even just an egg salad sandwich at that last shindig was what again?
January 6th, 2009 at 8:29 pmTracy_5
January 6th, 2009 at 8:32 pmWhy are they gated? Why do the resident wish to put gates around their homes?
did somebody just say “commies”? Holy shit maybe we can talk about Peking next…
January 6th, 2009 at 8:34 pmTracy__5 Says:
ALL of the estates in Preston Hollow are “gated”.
So I don’t need to pay for a gate because it’s already there?
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Tracy__5 Says:
Do you know how many of those making over $200,000 didn’t vote at all and just stayed home? Try millions.
There were 169,000,000 registered voters in 2008. 54% of 6% of that number is 5,475,600. Are your millions more or less than that? And how is that relevant, anyways? You don’t get to claim all nonvoters are on your side, any more than I get to claim they’re on mine.
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Tracy__5 Says:
Most of the time it was a Democrat president and a Republican congress…like the 1990s i.e. the most prosperous time in U.S. history.
Most of the time the Republican congress wasn’t stark raving batshit. We gotta make do with what we have, though.
January 6th, 2009 at 8:40 pm102:
January 6th, 2009 at 8:41 pmDoes it have anything to do with the relationship between level of education and political affiliation and the ancillary relationship between level of education and income?
Tracy__5 Says:
Most of the time it was a Democrat president and a Republican congress…like the 1990s i.e. the most prosperous time in U.S. history.
Wait a second… how come I never heard wingnuts calling for an opposite party White House and Congress when they controlled both? I can’t imagine why they would change their mind on such a fundamental principle of governance. I mean, the party of “values” wouldn’t throw out their core principles with the changing of the political wind, would they?
January 6th, 2009 at 8:44 pmYeah rhf, the Internet is the only place where it’s OK to slap around the developmentally disabled.
January 6th, 2009 at 8:45 pmAlright gang, I think it is only sporting to give Tracy_5 a chance to process that flurry…
January 6th, 2009 at 8:47 pmSo now that it has mellowed Tracy_5, might you address number 88 and such for me?
January 6th, 2009 at 9:16 pmThanks…
I’m missing a few things. While one fad was to build gated communities, how does one justify gating a previously existing community.
Can I also assume, in a fit of personal responsibility, that as the outside can’t come in, the Bushes will pay for all pavement, streetlights, etc. ???
January 6th, 2009 at 9:17 pmeasy, fish never return until the waters settle….
January 6th, 2009 at 9:23 pm…casts…
January 6th, 2009 at 9:31 pmSo Tracy_5. Can we talk about all those wasteful expenditures or not?
January 6th, 2009 at 9:47 pmSo I should take that as a no? So why did they not serve the egg salad sandwhich to me at that 495 night a room joint? The reason we should not have been more frugal was what? Did these folks think they needed all that shit? Come on explain it to me because that sure as hell wasn’t what the rank and file staff was getting for a holiday party. Come on explain it to me Mr. Fiscal Responsibility…
January 6th, 2009 at 10:03 pmHah! The stupid troll is actually suggesting that those who lost millions, in the collapse of the GOP Ponzi scheme, are less angry than those who lost little or nothing. Sure, we all will continue to pay more for goods and services but Chimpy oversaw the evaporation of, roughly, a third of all invested wealth. Logic would dictate that Chimpy’s new fence is to protect him from his new neighbors who, thanks to Chimpy, will have to put their kids to work.
January 6th, 2009 at 10:04 pmBTW. I pulled ALL my investments abut 20 months before the collapse the GOoPers claim “took everyone by surprise”.
January 6th, 2009 at 10:07 pm“There is NO WAY businesses like the architectural firm or corporations like MicroSoft could run it’s accounting department the way the U.S. Treasury does and still be in business”
This lacks specifics. It reads as the statement of an individual with an agenda but no substance. Seems Enron had an interesting accounting department. Oh and what about all those market controlled corporations so busy competing that the taxpayer has to bail them out? What is up with that? Seems the bullshit and the reality don’t wash…
January 6th, 2009 at 10:09 pmActually Tracy_5. I can say with all honesty that I do not lock my car. In fact when I spent 14 hours a day at sea my car still sat at the dock unlocked. I also do not lock my doors nor windows. If you think I am full of shit come check. See the thing is that the sooner we work together the sooner all ships rise.
January 6th, 2009 at 10:11 pmI don’t lock my car either. I would rather lose the loose change in the ashtray than have to replace an electric window. Though, to be fair, I haven’t lost any change either. It has been said that, “those who refuse to trust their fellow man never earn the trust OF their fellow man“.
January 6th, 2009 at 10:15 pmAch! “No true Scotsman” is an automatic FAIL. Game over man.
January 6th, 2009 at 10:16 pmThis is the same mentality that says I need to walk around with a loaded weapon in case someone wishes me harm. I am so tired of this scaredy cat bullshit. When by our very nature are social creatures who rely on social rules to ensure are own survival. If only the bonobo had been discovered before the chimp our fundamental view of ourselves might be far more egalitarian. Is the shit you posses more important to you than those you coexist with Tracy_5?
January 6th, 2009 at 10:20 pmWhen equals we.
Oh and Tracy_5 Really explain to me why the rank and file didn’t get the lobster and prime rib. The got the finger sandwiches. Why is that and how do you explain it?
January 6th, 2009 at 10:21 pmThe county appraises the house at nearly $2.1 million, but the home sold for considerably more.
That’s interesting. From whom did he buy this house? Was it a friend of his? Why did he pay “considerably more” for it?
I also find this interesting – and another poster asked who did he buy the house from. I believe these are public records and in some places can be accessed on line (Washington State). You would see all previous owners, what they paid when they bought the property and it’s current assessed value. I attempted to check this out through Dallas County Assessors office – but it asks for more information than just the address. Perhaps someone here can give it a try – and report back.
January 6th, 2009 at 10:23 pmWell. At last a grain of truth. There’s nothing “conservative” about the GOP. They have become Jebus-crazed, avaricious, slogan-shouting, goose-stepping, reckless, radicals devoid of the better human qualities.
January 6th, 2009 at 10:27 pmSee the thing is that there is no evidence that you can stomp me….
January 6th, 2009 at 10:27 pmIt is far from Texas. Do you intend to take anything or just check the locks. If you need something I have all you need do is ask. If you and yours need it more than I and mine, Iwill give it to you. When we stop thinking we somehow need more than others or even worse are somehow better than others, all benefit and we all become better in our humanity.
If you give me a heads up I will prep a meal. I am a mmeber of the freegan/barter community so if you wish to bring something to share you are welcome but even if you choose not to you are still welcome…
January 6th, 2009 at 10:34 pmDid I say it was okay to steal? My possession are less important than my desire to provide for those who might be so desparate to feel they must steal
January 6th, 2009 at 10:36 pmTracy_5
January 6th, 2009 at 10:38 pmWhy do you feel you should be able to judge the intentions of pete. Pete is a knowledgeable outdoorsman and gifted naturalist
I no longer own a handgun, stupid troll, sorry if I gave that impression. Though, if I still did, it would be for hunting. Alas, my old bones no longer respond well to dragging deer carcasses out of the woods.
And, even when I did own a Ruger Redhawk .44cal, I grabbed my trusty twelve gauge the only time I felt it necessary to protect my home. I believe the little punk crapped his pants when he saw that big hole pointing at his face. To the best of my knowledge he’s become a model citizen. His lovely wife sends me a Christmas card every year.
January 6th, 2009 at 10:43 pmTracy_5
All things aside, as the hour becomes late. Would you please explain to me why all did not get offered the lobster AND prime rib? How can this be explained and how is the good of the all served by such? Just explain this concept to me. In your heart do you feel that some deserve the egg salad and others the foie gras and how should I decide who gets served what?
Now as to that link. Sure I looked at it. Still it didn’t prove anything. I also would note that any thoughful reading will notice that you have failed to address any of the conundrums I have presented you with. I lesser friend might note that you appear to have been pwned…
January 6th, 2009 at 10:47 pmI equals A. (I do that a lot)
January 6th, 2009 at 10:48 pmDo you believe the fire fighter should volunteer?
January 6th, 2009 at 10:50 pmDude I have worked in the inner city school… You so don’t get it.
January 6th, 2009 at 10:52 pmI remember our exchange on gun rights quite well, stupid troll. The point I was trying to make is that, if forced to choose a handgun in a survival situation, I would choose a big-bore revolver that kills what it hits. For long-guns I would choose a twelve gauge pump and/or a quality magnum, bolt-action, rifle; with a STRONG preference for the twelve gauge.
One thing I would never do is lower myself to lying to a POS like you.
January 6th, 2009 at 10:52 pmThere is NO WAY businesses like the architectural firm or corporations like MicroSoft could run it’s accounting department the way the U.S. Treasury does and still be in business
That’s because macroeconomics is not microeconomics. In order for the government to run like a business, it would have to be functioning within an economy managed by a larger entity; i.e. it would be a business participating in an economy managed by a government.
It’s like accusing a racetrack of not being able to win a race because it’s so slow.
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Tracy__5 Says:
BTW the GOP hasn’t been “conservative” since 2000 and the White House hasn’t been truely conservative since 1988.
That’s the most insane thing I’ve heard from you yet. The GOP has become steadily more radically right-wing ever since 1988.
Just one case in point: Reagan never said he’d to see Roe vs. Wade overturned. In fact, he said that although he personally disagreed with abortion, he would never seek to overturn a woman’s legal right to choose. Reagan said that. Name me a major Republican who could say that today and survive their next primary.
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Tracy__5 Says:
You enjoy getting slapped?
NO U!
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dbadass Says:
Tracy_5
Why do you feel you should be able to judge the intentions of pete. Pete is a knowledgeable outdoorsman and gifted naturalist
Tracy__5 lives in a dog-eat-dog world, where at any given moment, hordes of strangers are constantly trying to rob, rape and murder you. It’s a truly horrible place, and I feel sorry for him.
January 6th, 2009 at 10:52 pm“You expect me to believe that it wouldn’t bother your if someone came into your house and stole your computer…the one you seem to think is necessary for posting here but not important enough to donate it to a inner city school?”
Yes I expect you to believe that as it is the case. See this computer cost me a couple of hundred bucks (maybe 200?) about 4 years ago and I go it used from a kid from a tough family situation who was trying to better himself and bring home a few beans to his family by fixing up old hand me down computers… You so don’t get it…
January 6th, 2009 at 10:58 pmHow many would you like me to donte? I did run a drive for texts to the Navajo reservation a few years back. Des that count? The problem with e drives is that so many folks try to use it as an excuse to dump old heavy metal laiden ewaste on the less fortunate. Again the issue with egalaitarianism is the equal part…I am unsure you will ever get it. You can’t even expalin the egg sandwhich conundrum…
January 6th, 2009 at 11:01 pmWow tons of typos in that.
January 6th, 2009 at 11:05 pmYou know what my kids dig about Christmas? They get to be driven to a town they have never been to to put 20’s in the mailboxes of people they have never met and never will late at night when on regular nights they would have to be in bed… Like I said, I am unsure you will ever get the concept…
Hi Hippie_Crusher…
xxoo
January 6th, 2009 at 11:05 pmHippie_crusher crusher…
WTF? I’ll bite. What story is bigger than the ongoing barbarism in GAZA? Personally, I think innocents being killed is ALWAYS the biggest story. But? I need a diversion so I’m here abusing stupid trolls.
January 6th, 2009 at 11:12 pmWoulkd you like me to post the refusal of the tech guru for the school district to acdept an obsolete unit with a what the hell where those old thick dics called drive, no cd drive nor burner let alone dvd. No printer old school heavy as shit monitor andall. See gain you must be very uneducated about low impact aware lifestyle choices.
Face it You don’t get what I am saying. Stuff so doesn’t matter. Sharing does…
January 6th, 2009 at 11:12 pmHippie_crusher Says:
(various confused and insulting things)
Would you like us to join you in another thread, HC? You’re copy/pasting this all over the place. Which thread do you want company in? The one about the timber industry thing, the one about the Medal of Freedom recipients, or something else? I really have no idea what you’re screaming about.
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Tracy__5 Says:
Accounting practices are pretty much universal when it comes to budgets whether it be a government or business budget.
I’ll agree with you, to a qualified extent. For example, military war spending should not be “off budget,” for example. Most of these silly tricks appear to be to try to hide the actual spending number, even though all of the information is public anyways. I won’t say it should be done “like a business,” but it should be streamlined/simplified so that taxpayers can more clearly understand what they’re paying for.
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Tracy__5 Says:
We are talking fiscally conservative….i.e. economics. Haven’t heard anything in the debate here about social policy.
It wasn’t until the 90’s that poor people started being demonized for their “life choices.” Newt Gingrich coined the term “welfare queen” and started making a political victim of unwed teenage mothers. Public assistance programs were “reformed” – er, I mean destroyed – wholesale across the nation. The mentally ill were dumped onto the streets en masse, and remain a majority of the homeless population today.
The glorification of the wealthy, as well as the assumption that the rest of us only have our share of the economy as a favor by them, has increased from a fairly sketchy proposition in the late 80’s (Gordon Gecko was a villian, remember) to be practically chiseled in political stone by 2004. Rounds of tax cuts after tax cuts vastly favored the wealthiest handful of the population, with a pittance scattered about for everybody else.
Oh, did I forget corporate deregulation? Yeah. If corporations are like individuals, then the trend since 1988 has been to institute nothing but pure anarchy. One after another, regulations designed to ensure fair trade and industry have been “reformed” – er, I mean destroyed. It’s gotten so bad that in the 2000’s, the executive branch has literally been appointing people to oversee regulations who don’t believe in overseeing the regulations that it’s their job to enforce. That is to say, the legislative slashing wasn’t good enough for them, they actually had to hire people who would blatantly refuse to do their jobs. Think they could get away with that in the 80’s? Me neither.
This is all economic policy I’m talking about here.
January 6th, 2009 at 11:18 pmNo I wasn’t doing anything of the sort. Let’s revisit. All night I have asked why some might want gets to isolate them from their neighbors. lected to scounder food while others had less, complained about donating through taxation funds for the betterment of all, and the like. All I have asked was a simple explaination for why we might all not sit at the same table.
I remain the concept is lost even thought the car, door, and windows remain open…
January 6th, 2009 at 11:21 pmOld technolgy fast service. I don’t know shit about computers but the front of the tower says Dimension 3000. It is a dell assembled by a tenth grader. For real. I assume you would acknowledge no reason to disbelieve my honesty.
January 6th, 2009 at 11:23 pmgets=gates
lected = Elected
remain = repeat
thought = though
Nest pots I will try dooble ddigits
January 6th, 2009 at 11:28 pmAlas the German Lager, and the pills that I so greedily take to prevent dying in my sleep, are taking their toll.
G’night good people.
January 6th, 2009 at 11:32 pmYou too trolls.
take care pete…
January 6th, 2009 at 11:41 pmHippyLickingPunk is a pathetic and sad piece of garbage. The world must be a scary and dark place for anyone so stupid and morally bankrupt. Lets have a moment of silence for the stupidest troll in recent memory. The punk even the other challenged children made fun of on the shortbus ride to the special school.
January 6th, 2009 at 11:43 pmTracy__5 Says:
Make sure to kiss your gun good night for me.
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As you, no doubt, sit in the dark, fondling your, ah, “weapon”…
Sweaty palms, itchy trigger finger…
January 6th, 2009 at 11:43 pmNo I don’t know shit. I elect not to have tv so as I have little need for it so I just get some sort of cable service for the computer
January 6th, 2009 at 11:43 pmTracy__5 Says:
So this “off budget” practice that is practiced in EVERY department of the government is a common thing for private businesses to do?
Note the part that said “I’ll agree with you.” You can’t argue with me when I’m agreeing with you, that gets a flag thrown and you lose 10 yards. I mention the war spending as an example, specifically because it’s an enormous top-level expense.
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Everyone, even Clinton, is in agreement the “welfare reform” of the 1990s worked. Give us a break!
Define “worked.” If by “worked” you mean “got everyone off welfare,” then yes. And that’s how they defined it. But it did that merely by eliminating welfare; it’s not like anybody accomplished anything. If you mean that poor people are better off and have easier routes to opportunity, then no, it did the opposite of “work.”
January 7th, 2009 at 12:04 amTracy__5 Says:
#67
“Things that make us better people.”
I am not against paying taxes and never have been, but if you actually knew how much money is wasted by the federal government, which you apparently are OK with, you wouldn’t call it “whinning”, but rather “outrage”. Maybe you pay so little if any federal income tax that it doesn’t bother you how much money OTHER people fork over.
omg! tRACY, I agree with you. I agree that our government is wasting money on Wall Street parasites who are sucking our coffers dry because they want to privatize the gains and socialize the losses. I agree that we’re wasting money in Iraq and contractors like KBR so they can serve feces-tainted ice to our troops. I applaud you for your stance, and await the day you rant against the Bush administration’s waste of our taxpayer dollars.
January 7th, 2009 at 2:16 amAs long as the gate can’t be unlocked from the inside, then it’s good idea. It could be his prison, fancy one, but still a prison.
January 7th, 2009 at 8:34 amTracy_5:
January 7th, 2009 at 12:53 pmWill you take a stand on the wasteful expenditures of the corporations receiving the taxpayer bailout dollars on bonuses and parties and salaries which are far beyond what an individual interested in a just and reasoned society need to get by?
Well do both the trash collector and the brain surgeon both serve the same society? Now the brain surgeon did have to invest up front monies for the training but the trash collector serves far more customers. Assuming we had an intelligent educational system which allowed all to access it for little to no expense than any wage gap should be far less between diverse employments. Do you think the professional athlete deserves more than the volunteer fireman? I sort of notice you selected as surgeon and not a CEO who produces nothing. Coincidence?
January 7th, 2009 at 2:22 pmWhy does it reguire me to answer first? Are you making up rules as you go along and if so who authorized you. See this is the thing. When we begin to see some members of the social group as being somehow better than others and somehow entitled to more or less for no real valid reasons we diminish our own humanity
January 7th, 2009 at 2:24 pmI couldn’t believe this thread had 200 posts.
January 7th, 2009 at 2:49 pmI also didn’t realize over 100 ofit was t-5 repeating the same sh–t over and over.
And I still wouldn’t pay for a gate for someone who just bought a multi-million dollar house.
tony and lido