Actually, Jackie, Obama picking Warren proves that he does not understand the modern civil rights battle.

The first African-American President doesn’t “understand the modern civil rights battle?” Maybe the gay rights movement should take a page from his playbook instead of getting hung up on symbolism and purely oppositional tactics.

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Spooning_leads24kin Says:

It’s only complicated to the dis-oriented and confused. It’s hard to get lost when keeping a straight path.

Then explain why genocide happens. If God’s plan is so simple, then people he got murdered must be those he wants dead. You should show some Christian humility and admit that you don’t understand the entirety of his plan. Maybe you’ve got some grasp of his plan for you, and that’s cool. But the rest of it (if you believe He has a plan) is entirely beyond human understanding, and that includes yours.

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Spooning_leads24kin Says:

Just as Saul Alinsky stated in his “Rules for Radicals”, ridicule is your strongest weapon. And everyone of you Demster divers are full of it.

Ridicule is the only sane response to comments such as yours. And yeah, I’m usually pretty full of ridicule.

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DavidHart Says:

Having written that, at least we will have a President who has said that he “fiercely” supports gay rights. That’s a first. Also, much to his credit, Obama is a true critical thinker. He may very well be working this out in his head and his position could evolve.

I’m cautiously optimistic also.

But I do have a problem with him claiming to support gay rights while being “against gay marriage.” That’s just flat-out self-contradictory.

It might be possible to resolve the problem by converting all laws regarding “marriage” to civil unions though, and nothing he’s said closes the door on that. That would be the only approach that gives full equality (not “separate but equal”) while recognizing that a lot of people in America consider marriage to be a religious institution – by implementing full separation of church (”marriage”) and state (”civil unions”).

In fact, that’s the only approach that won’t cause long-term problems. Consider the fact that in order to determine who can perform marriages, states have to license reverends. License. Reverends. If anything ever was in abrogation of separation of church and state, it’s that. One might even get evangelicals on board by pointing out that many of the legally licensed reverends in nearly ever state are from the Church of Satan.

At BEST, Obama’s support of the gay community has been tepid, even ambiguous. That is one of the reasons that I originally supported Senator Clinton.

Having written that, at least we will have a President who has said that he “fiercely” supports gay rights. That’s a first. Also, much to his credit, Obama is a true critical thinker. He may very well be working this out in his head and his position could evolve.

I’d say there are some out there who have a pretty good idea.

A total understanding though? I doubt that.

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January 8th, 2009 at 1:35 pm
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Oh, well that’s good. So while the world He created is slipping into conflict, poverty, economic upheaval, and environmental degradation, God is goofing off playing chess with Himself.

Real nice.

You are entitled to your belief, as I am entitled to my disbelief, but are you saying that there are some of “us” that understand God’s Uber Chess?

God is not a man playing checkers.

But a being playing a game of Chess that’s far grander than anything most if not all of us could understand.

If it’s still yes on Warren … it’s still NO on inauguration for me.

Say NO to homophobes like Warren!

Ever have oral sex? Not bad. Not bad at all. That God guy was pretty creative, no pun intended.

January 8th, 2009 at 12:43 pm
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Obviously the plan was more complicated than that, since He chose to make one in ten people gay.

Or you can realize the truth – there is no planner. Evolution doesn’t work that way.

Yet it’s twice as far to travel when you hit the dead end.

It’s only complicated to the dis-oriented and confused. It’s hard to get lost when keeping a straight path.

OK, you’re nuts, so bolt.

Gods plan was pretty simple, kinda like nuts and bolts.

I thought God was supposed to work in mysterious ways, because his plan was so complicated?