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]]> By: curious http://thinkprogress.org/2009/01/08/usaf-blogger-flowchart/comment-page-1/#comment-5415962 curious Fri, 09 Jan 2009 21:18:42 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2009/01/08/usaf-blogger-flowchart/#comment-5415962 Flow chart. Spare me please. Try the truth for a change. Flow chart. Spare me please. Try the truth for a change.

]]> By: EugeneDebs http://thinkprogress.org/2009/01/08/usaf-blogger-flowchart/comment-page-1/#comment-5414938 EugeneDebs Fri, 09 Jan 2009 10:38:29 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2009/01/08/usaf-blogger-flowchart/#comment-5414938 Tim Vaculik Says: Alecto, Sorry, it is YOU that is the dumb F U C K here, moron. I didn’t post “The military spying or pushing propaganda on the US populous is illegal. Period” at #23 - Wayne did. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My GOD Timmeh. I mean I KNOW you are ignorant. I keep telling you how stupid you are but this is just unbelievable. Someone with the reading comprehesion of a gerbil ought to get THIS ONE. Yeah Wayne posted it and he is RIGHT and THAT is a complete and total refutation of your ignorant statement that the posters here see a rights violation or conspiricy behind everything. STOP EMBARASSING YOURSELF by parading your stunning ignorance so proudly. It is tedious for us to have to take you by the hand like a five year old and walk you through a point that any reasonbly bright five year old would understand. Tim Vaculik Says:

Alecto,

Sorry, it is YOU that is the dumb F U C K here, moron. I didn’t post “The military spying or pushing propaganda on the US populous is illegal. Period” at #23 – Wayne did.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

My GOD Timmeh. I mean I KNOW you are ignorant. I keep telling you how stupid you are but this is just unbelievable. Someone with the reading comprehesion of a gerbil ought to get THIS ONE. Yeah Wayne posted it and he is RIGHT and THAT is a complete and total refutation of your ignorant statement that the posters here see a rights violation or conspiricy behind everything. STOP EMBARASSING YOURSELF by parading your stunning ignorance so proudly. It is tedious for us to have to take you by the hand like a five year old and walk you through a point that any reasonbly bright five year old would understand.

]]> By: EugeneDebs http://thinkprogress.org/2009/01/08/usaf-blogger-flowchart/comment-page-1/#comment-5414936 EugeneDebs Fri, 09 Jan 2009 10:31:18 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2009/01/08/usaf-blogger-flowchart/#comment-5414936 Tim Vaculik Says: Hey Timmeh, get a BRAIN. Yours is worthless at BEST. Tim Vaculik Says:

Hey Timmeh, get a BRAIN. Yours is worthless at BEST.

]]> By: ElBruce http://thinkprogress.org/2009/01/08/usaf-blogger-flowchart/comment-page-1/#comment-5414908 ElBruce Fri, 09 Jan 2009 07:33:17 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2009/01/08/usaf-blogger-flowchart/#comment-5414908 My point about "notifying HQ" whenever you see a troll is not that I'm concerned about privacy. That's easy to avoid; just use a few proxies before flaming all over a USAF blog site, if you're concerned. No, my point is that it's too easy to abuse. If somebody has to pick up a phone and call his supervisor everytime someone trolls his site? Or even send one email per troll? Knowing the military, somebody probably has to fill out an actual form, whether in a system or via hardcopy. So here's the problem: One well-placed post at a handful of "Anonymous" websites (4chan, etc) and thousands of anarchic teenagers with too much time on their hands can swamp it just to keep that guy reporting trolls 24 hours a day. And they will, because they think that sort of thing is funny. If the military knew anything about the Internet, they should have known that. My point about “notifying HQ” whenever you see a troll is not that I’m concerned about privacy. That’s easy to avoid; just use a few proxies before flaming all over a USAF blog site, if you’re concerned.

No, my point is that it’s too easy to abuse. If somebody has to pick up a phone and call his supervisor everytime someone trolls his site? Or even send one email per troll? Knowing the military, somebody probably has to fill out an actual form, whether in a system or via hardcopy.

So here’s the problem:

One well-placed post at a handful of “Anonymous” websites (4chan, etc) and thousands of anarchic teenagers with too much time on their hands can swamp it just to keep that guy reporting trolls 24 hours a day. And they will, because they think that sort of thing is funny.

If the military knew anything about the Internet, they should have known that.

]]> By: LiberalVoter http://thinkprogress.org/2009/01/08/usaf-blogger-flowchart/comment-page-1/#comment-5414872 LiberalVoter Fri, 09 Jan 2009 05:57:42 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2009/01/08/usaf-blogger-flowchart/#comment-5414872 Hmm, "notify HQ" sounds eerily like the old days when we in the military or in government work were required to report any contact with a suspected communist. And this flow chart from the same folks that brought us a B-52 'accidentally' flying crosscountry with nukes on the wings. Looks like not a lot has changed in the 30 years since I got my DD-214. Hmm, “notify HQ” sounds eerily like the old days when we in the military or in government work were required to report any contact with a suspected communist.

And this flow chart from the same folks that brought us a B-52 ‘accidentally’ flying crosscountry with nukes on the wings. Looks like not a lot has changed in the 30 years since I got my DD-214.

]]> By: ElBruce http://thinkprogress.org/2009/01/08/usaf-blogger-flowchart/comment-page-1/#comment-5414846 ElBruce Fri, 09 Jan 2009 05:19:09 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2009/01/08/usaf-blogger-flowchart/#comment-5414846 It is appropriate for the military services to have a public communications department solely for the purpose of answering questions directed at them, and to publish information releases to the public. It is inappropriate for the military to attempt to affect public opinion in any way. If this flowchart is solely for use in official blogs hosted by the Air Force (publishing releases and answering questions there) then that's fine. Although I still think that having to "notify HQ" every time you see a troll is just plain ridiculous. If this flowchart signifies that military PR officers will be participating in public discussion at other venues, then they have an extremely serious legal problem on their hands. It is appropriate for the military services to have a public communications department solely for the purpose of answering questions directed at them, and to publish information releases to the public.

It is inappropriate for the military to attempt to affect public opinion in any way.

If this flowchart is solely for use in official blogs hosted by the Air Force (publishing releases and answering questions there) then that’s fine. Although I still think that having to “notify HQ” every time you see a troll is just plain ridiculous.

If this flowchart signifies that military PR officers will be participating in public discussion at other venues, then they have an extremely serious legal problem on their hands.

]]> By: Roket http://thinkprogress.org/2009/01/08/usaf-blogger-flowchart/comment-page-1/#comment-5414834 Roket Fri, 09 Jan 2009 05:11:43 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2009/01/08/usaf-blogger-flowchart/#comment-5414834 A very lovely yet amateurish flow chart. No matter how much time and money they spent on this, it was wasted. Please note the bubble that says ‘Fix the Facts’. So much for the officer and a gentleman meme. A very lovely yet amateurish flow chart. No matter how much time and money they spent on this, it was wasted. Please note the bubble that says ‘Fix the Facts’. So much for the officer and a gentleman meme.

]]> By: stateofthedivision http://thinkprogress.org/2009/01/08/usaf-blogger-flowchart/comment-page-1/#comment-5414756 stateofthedivision Fri, 09 Jan 2009 04:48:06 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2009/01/08/usaf-blogger-flowchart/#comment-5414756 Why counter blog, when they have many blocked completely? The distribution of thought is artificially shrunk to begin with. Now they have to counter blog the righty-centrists that remain? Call the thought police! Why counter blog, when they have many blocked completely? The distribution of thought is artificially shrunk to begin with. Now they have to counter blog the righty-centrists that remain?

Call the thought police!

]]> By: stateofthedivision http://thinkprogress.org/2009/01/08/usaf-blogger-flowchart/comment-page-1/#comment-5414744 stateofthedivision Fri, 09 Jan 2009 04:46:48 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2009/01/08/usaf-blogger-flowchart/#comment-5414744 Where's the collect your John McCain Frequent Lyer Points box? Where’s the collect your John McCain Frequent Lyer Points box?

]]> By: COProgressive http://thinkprogress.org/2009/01/08/usaf-blogger-flowchart/comment-page-1/#comment-5414624 COProgressive Fri, 09 Jan 2009 03:56:51 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2009/01/08/usaf-blogger-flowchart/#comment-5414624 Funny, I've run into a couple of "Military Contractor" and "Retired US Air Farce" bloggers over on Politico. The "Military Contractor" is a rightwing wacko called "Dudcord" errr, "Detcord" that blogs all day from his "Military Contractor" desk. Now this all makes sense to me. Retired Air Farce appliance warriors get paid by our tax dollar to try to affect public option on blogs. Hummm, sounds like Joseph Goebbels' relatives are working for the Air Farce now. Funny, I’ve run into a couple of “Military Contractor” and “Retired US Air Farce” bloggers over on Politico.

The “Military Contractor” is a rightwing wacko called “Dudcord” errr, “Detcord” that blogs all day from his “Military Contractor” desk.

Now this all makes sense to me. Retired Air Farce appliance warriors get paid by our tax dollar to try to affect public option on blogs. Hummm, sounds like Joseph Goebbels’ relatives are working for the Air Farce now.

]]> By: Tim Vaculik http://thinkprogress.org/2009/01/08/usaf-blogger-flowchart/comment-page-1/#comment-5414626 Tim Vaculik Fri, 09 Jan 2009 03:55:58 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2009/01/08/usaf-blogger-flowchart/#comment-5414626 Alecto, Sorry, it is YOU that is the dumb F U C K here, moron. I didn't post "The military spying or pushing propaganda on the US populous is illegal. Period" at #23 - Wayne did. Fire, aim, ready... Alecto,

Sorry, it is YOU that is the dumb F U C K here, moron. I didn’t post “The military spying or pushing propaganda on the US populous is illegal. Period” at #23 – Wayne did.

Fire, aim, ready…

]]> By: AlexLawyer http://thinkprogress.org/2009/01/08/usaf-blogger-flowchart/comment-page-1/#comment-5414586 AlexLawyer Fri, 09 Jan 2009 02:49:24 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2009/01/08/usaf-blogger-flowchart/#comment-5414586 The Air Force, like the other military services, has fallen increasingly under the sway of conservative, fundamentalist Christians who are willing to use any means at their disposal, fair or foul, constitutional or unconstitutional (as this patently is) to advance their agenda of warmongering, evangelism, repudiation of humanitarian standards and anti-science activism. Unfortunately, Obama has chosen to retain the Secretary of Defense under whom this policy was developed. Nonetheless, he should immediately issue a presidential directive prohibiting government agencies from violating the First Amendment. The Air Force, like the other military services, has fallen increasingly under the sway of conservative, fundamentalist Christians who are willing to use any means at their disposal, fair or foul, constitutional or unconstitutional (as this patently is) to advance their agenda of warmongering, evangelism, repudiation of humanitarian standards and anti-science activism.

Unfortunately, Obama has chosen to retain the Secretary of Defense under whom this policy was developed. Nonetheless, he should immediately issue a presidential directive prohibiting government agencies from violating the First Amendment.

]]> By: Alecto http://thinkprogress.org/2009/01/08/usaf-blogger-flowchart/comment-page-1/#comment-5414574 Alecto Fri, 09 Jan 2009 02:31:00 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2009/01/08/usaf-blogger-flowchart/#comment-5414574 EWWWWW! Tim vacuous was OUTREACHED by the Air Force. And then the Vacuousness spewed forth: <em>"...it is apparent that once again (as usual) a lot of you folks just don’t have a clue about how the military functions. What’s worse, you folks seem to see a conspiracy or some sort of violation of some right or other behind EVERY news story!"</em> STUPID MOTHEFU CKER you. The conspiracy IS the AIR FORCE. And, psst, hey vacuous, the military is a LIBERAL organization. In the military, you are only as good as your weakest link, hence EVERYONE has to improve. Pass it on to the other stupid traitors over in GOP central, STUPID you F U C K. Hey, this makes me a "RAGER" You got it shit for brains, I am a rager. Go figure out what my name means. And I guffawed over this one you stupid piece of shit Vacuous. "The military spying or pushing propaganda on the US populous is illegal. Period." BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA! If Deadeye DICK heard you say that he would have you drawn and quartered. YOu stupid Squat shit for brains. EWWWWW!

Tim vacuous was OUTREACHED by the Air Force.

And then the Vacuousness spewed forth:
“…it is apparent that once again (as usual) a lot of you folks just don’t have a clue about how the military functions.

What’s worse, you folks seem to see a conspiracy or some sort of violation of some right or other behind EVERY news story!”

STUPID MOTHEFU CKER you. The conspiracy IS the AIR FORCE.
And, psst, hey vacuous, the military is a LIBERAL organization. In the military, you are only as good as your weakest link, hence EVERYONE has to improve. Pass it on to the other stupid traitors over in GOP central, STUPID you F U C K.

Hey, this makes me a “RAGER”

You got it shit for brains, I am a rager. Go figure out what my name means.

And I guffawed over this one you stupid piece of shit Vacuous.
“The military spying or pushing propaganda on the US populous is illegal. Period.”

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

If Deadeye DICK heard you say that he would have you drawn and quartered. YOu stupid Squat shit for brains.

]]> By: Deschanel http://thinkprogress.org/2009/01/08/usaf-blogger-flowchart/comment-page-1/#comment-5414572 Deschanel Fri, 09 Jan 2009 02:27:13 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2009/01/08/usaf-blogger-flowchart/#comment-5414572 Wow, that's creepy. It's like they just realized "Top Gun" propaganda doesn't cut it anymore with The Kids Today. Wow, that’s creepy. It’s like they just realized “Top Gun” propaganda doesn’t cut it anymore with The Kids Today.

]]> By: fletc3her http://thinkprogress.org/2009/01/08/usaf-blogger-flowchart/comment-page-1/#comment-5414558 fletc3her Fri, 09 Jan 2009 02:21:16 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2009/01/08/usaf-blogger-flowchart/#comment-5414558 That flowchart gives me a negative opinion of the Air Force. I await their response. That flowchart gives me a negative opinion of the Air Force. I await their response.

]]> By: sacopenapa http://thinkprogress.org/2009/01/08/usaf-blogger-flowchart/comment-page-1/#comment-5414552 sacopenapa Fri, 09 Jan 2009 02:16:57 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2009/01/08/usaf-blogger-flowchart/#comment-5414552 Shouldn't this people be cuting expenses (tax payers money!) of an overstreched military since the US is facing backrupcy???!!! Shouldn’t this people be cuting expenses (tax payers money!) of an overstreched military since the US is facing backrupcy???!!!

]]> By: Luis M http://thinkprogress.org/2009/01/08/usaf-blogger-flowchart/comment-page-1/#comment-5414502 Luis M Fri, 09 Jan 2009 01:33:21 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2009/01/08/usaf-blogger-flowchart/#comment-5414502 <em>Tim Vaculik Says: Now THIS is really cool! I think the flow chart would be a good model for all bloggers to follow in principle. </em> I don't get it. Is your posting a rant, rage, joke or satirical in nature? Tim Vaculik Says:
Now THIS is really cool! I think the flow chart would be a good model for all bloggers to follow in principle.

I don’t get it. Is your posting a rant, rage, joke or satirical in nature?

]]> By: Mike71654 http://thinkprogress.org/2009/01/08/usaf-blogger-flowchart/comment-page-1/#comment-5414474 Mike71654 Fri, 09 Jan 2009 01:12:39 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2009/01/08/usaf-blogger-flowchart/#comment-5414474 Your tax dollars at work! Your tax dollars at work!

]]> By: wiley http://thinkprogress.org/2009/01/08/usaf-blogger-flowchart/comment-page-1/#comment-5414470 wiley Fri, 09 Jan 2009 01:10:25 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2009/01/08/usaf-blogger-flowchart/#comment-5414470 Defending the Air Force? Defending the Air Force?

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