Cheney: No One Could Have Predicted The Financial Crisis, Just As No One Foresaw 9/11
Cheney: No One Could Have Predicted The Financial Crisis, Just As No One Foresaw 9/11
Yesterday in an interview with the Associated Press’s Deb Reichmann, Vice President Cheney repeatedly insisted that no one anticipated the looming U.S. financial crisis. “I don’t think anybody saw it coming,” he said. He then compared the financial crisis to 9/11, another crisis that supposedly no one predicted:
CHENEY: No, obviously, I wouldn’t have predicted that. On the other hand I wouldn’t have predicted 9/11, the global war on terror, the need to simultaneous run military operations in Afghanistan and Iraq or the near collapse of the financial system on a global basis, not just the U.S. [...]
CHENEY: Did you see it coming? (Laughter.)
REICHMANN: I wasn’t responsible for seeing it coming.
CHENEY: Now, what my point is that I don’t think anybody saw it coming.
Oddly enough, in today’s White House press briefing, Deputy Press Secretary Scott Stanzel insisted that the Bush administration “saw those [financial] problems on the horizon,” but it was Congress’s fault for taking “a long time…to act.” In reality, many economic experts — such as Nouriel Roubini, Dean Baker, and Paul Krugman — did predict the economic crisis; the Bush administration just wasn’t listening to them. In reality, administration officials often turned a “blind eye to the impending crisis.”
The same goes for 9/11. On August 6, 2001, the Bush administration received a President’s Daily Brief entitled “Bin Laden Determined to Strike U.S.” The memo warned:
We have not been able to corroborate some of the more sensational threat reporting, such as that from a —- service in 1998 saying that Bin Laden wanted to hijack a U.S. aircraft to gain the release of “Blind Sheikh” Omar Abdel Rahman and other U.S.-held extremists.
Nevertheless, FBI information since that time indicates patterns of suspicious activity in this country consistent with preparations for hijackings or other types of attacks, including recent surveillance of federal buildings in New York.
In 2001, the Federal Aviation Administration distributed a CD-ROM presentation to airlines and airports that cited the possibility of a suicide hijacking. In response to the threat warnings, the Bush administration did nothing.
In September, President Bush made similar comments to Cheney’s, citing the financial crisis in the same breath as “the bursting of the dot-com bubble, major corporate scandals, an unprecedented attack on our homeland, a global war on terror, a series of devastating natural disasters.”
Transcript:
REICHMANN: So let’s start with the economy. Did you ever think that you’d be — that we’d be finishing a two-term Republican presidency with a federal budget deficit so high, with bailouts and government spending sort of run away?
CHENEY: No, obviously, I wouldn’t have predicted that. On the other hand I wouldn’t have predicted 9/11, the global war on terror, the need to simultaneous run military operations in Afghanistan and Iraq or the near collapse of the financial system on a global basis, not just the U.S.
So it’s not a — it’s a difficult set of problems without question. And I wouldn’t have predicted the things that caused it. It’s not as though somebody went out and created a huge deficit because they like deficits. You’ve got the business of having to shore up the financial system, because the financial system is central to the whole, and because the government has a major responsibility for the nation’s finances, in terms of the Federal Reserve, the Securities and Exchange Commission, the Treasury, regulatory authority over the financial sector, the value of the dollar and so forth.
REICHMANN: People think that the administration didn’t see it coming, and they want to know why?
CHENEY: Well, I don’t know that anybody did.
REICHMANN: But why, why didn’t you see such a huge downfall in the economy coming?
CHENEY: I suppose because nobody anywhere was smart enough to figure that out. There may have been a few people who figured it out. But when I look back on it, I think a lot of what happened financially had to do with Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, that those were programs that were put in place by the federal government, produced subprime mortgages and mortgage-backed securities, and were invested in on a global basis.
REICHMANN: I mean, I know you asked the Congress for reform on that and they didn’t act.
CHENEY: They did not.
REICHMANN: But I mean, we can’t really blame the whole debacle on the fact that there was no Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac reform.
CHENEY: No, but I think you can with the whole concept with mortgage-backed securities that were developed, where the old relationship between borrower and lender broke down, and all of those mortgages were packaged, some good viable instruments, others were questionable in terms of their repayment.
And things happened in the financial community, and I’m not an expert on it, but I think things happened in the financial community that created a situation in which, for example, the five-major investment banks that existed a year ago were gone, or fundamentally transformed themselves. And it’s not just a U.S. problem, this isn’t something that happened only in Washington and New York, this is in fact, a global problem.
REICHMANN: No, but it started here. And I think — CHENEY: Did you see it coming? (Laughter.)
REICHMANN: I wasn’t responsible for seeing it coming.
CHENEY: Now, what my point is that I don’t think anybody saw it coming.
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- - The Caption Contest which will be forthcoming will no doubt have a HEAD-ON reference. Ugh.
January 9th, 2009 at 3:40 pmThe Dick Cheney who was running war games on 9/11 that included highjacked airliners threatening to crash into buildings could somehow see it coming...
Just sayin'.
January 9th, 2009 at 3:41 pmGo Cheney yourself Darth.
January 9th, 2009 at 3:41 pmIt's really awesome of Cheney to campaign for the Democratic party like that. Thanks, Dick!
January 9th, 2009 at 3:42 pmAccountability, Dick!!
But then why would you start now.
January 9th, 2009 at 3:43 pmClass of The Hague 2009, hopefully.
January 9th, 2009 at 3:44 pmGeez -- why is Cheney TRYING to sound like Hoover?
January 9th, 2009 at 3:45 pmThe President's Daily Brief did not foretell the Iraq War, though a lot of neocon documents did. This is a little clumsy:
The same goes for the Iraq war. On August 6, 2001, the Bush administration received a President’s Daily Brief entitled “Bin Laden Determined to Strike U.S.” The memo warned:
January 9th, 2009 at 3:46 pmWar Criminal Cheney could get a rats a$s about anything, he got his war profits.
Pssst....you were warned about 9/11 but did nothing to stop it...
....oh, forgot, you helped plan it...nevermind.
January 9th, 2009 at 3:48 pmWho coulda predicted that a map of Iraq would be on the table at the super secret Energy Conference the first few months of BushitCo?
January 9th, 2009 at 3:48 pmI'd like to predict a short trial, followed by firing squad.
January 9th, 2009 at 3:48 pmyou guys wanna know how bush gets away with all his crimes?
January 9th, 2009 at 3:48 pmWhat this five-deferment coward fails to tell you is when the secret service dragged him (Cheney) to the WH underground bunker, the experience scared the hell out of him!
Once he (Cheney) got his senses his tunnel-vision "neocon" mentality kicked-in and he was determined to manipulate and force the hand of our intelligence agencies to implicate Iraq as the 9/11 culprit.
George W. Bush was a pushover...everybody wants to play the "leader" which Bush never was, and never will be.
Jan. 20, 2009 the end of an ERROR.
January 9th, 2009 at 3:49 pmIn September, President Bush made similar comments to Cheney’s, citing the financial crisis in the same breath as “the bursting of the dot-com bubble, major corporate scandals, an unprecedented attack on our homeland, a global war on terror, a series of devastating natural disasters.”
Wow -- Dumbya's actually listing all of his failures himself! This should make it much easier when the prosecutions start...
January 9th, 2009 at 3:53 pmFinancial Crisis is all Bin Ladin and Zawaheri's work...just like 9/11.
January 9th, 2009 at 3:53 pmCHENEY: Now, what my point is that I don’t think anybody saw it coming.
Here, let me fix this quote:
CHENEY: Now, what my point is that I don’t think anybody who didn't have half a brain or an ounce of sense saw it coming.
There, that's better.
January 9th, 2009 at 3:54 pmcaption...
The I Scream Kid
January 9th, 2009 at 3:54 pmOf course they saw the financial crisis coming. It was their intention all along.
Why would anyone believe them when they say it wasn't?
January 9th, 2009 at 3:54 pmMW definition of predict=: foretell on the basis of observation, experience, or scientific reason. Let's see...observation. Nope can't see much when they all had their heads so far up each others butts. Experience? Nope, just a bunch of green rookies. Scientific reason? Don't make me laugh.
Of course the operative word in the whole thing is foretell. That old need-to-know business.
January 9th, 2009 at 3:56 pmSome of us love to wallow in Dickishness...it feels so good when you stop!
January 9th, 2009 at 3:57 pmActually, Dick, EVERYONE saw the financial crisis coming. Sadly, those who were beholden to your corrupt administration were afraid to say so or do anything to prevent, or mitigate, the damage.
January 9th, 2009 at 4:00 pmWesleyJI says:
Are you telling me bla bla bla. Nothing else much.
No you idiot, we are telling you to get a brain, or stfu.
January 9th, 2009 at 4:04 pmHow come idiot is spelled correctly but not genius? Seems sort of funny to me...
January 9th, 2009 at 4:05 pmThe D!ck repeats the claims of CON-da-LIAR Rice concerning the events of 9/11.
Aug. 6, 2001 PDB says otherwise.
Hollywood's movie, Lone Gunmen Episode 1: Pilot, Aired on March 4, 2001.
And the the Simpsons
... And I'm supposed to believe that the Government had no forewarning or knowledge...?
Pa-lease!
January 9th, 2009 at 4:05 pmWow, WesleyJI... just wow... did you play a lot of football... without a helmet?
January 9th, 2009 at 4:06 pmThe part about football that intrigues me is that the players have to be told what to do each time. No wonder we can spell idiot but not genius...
January 9th, 2009 at 4:10 pmA new troll? Or just a dirty sock-puppet?
Why are these sick freaks afraid of treating prisoners in accordance with U.S. and international law? When did President-elect Obama say he was going to release "dangerous people"?
And, for those with the intelligence and honesty to examine the whole issue of Gitmo, it's patently obvious that smart people from both sides of the aisle have been calling for the closing f Gitmo since before Obama announced his candidacy.
January 9th, 2009 at 4:11 pmSuffice it to say that I hope to hell he lives long enough to experience every moment of the severe pain and suffering that he has coming to him.
January 9th, 2009 at 4:11 pmTo keep there hold on a narrowing stretch of Appalachia, "conservatives" will be reduced to bashing Obama's attempts to fix Bush's very Republican and very tragic mess in America.
January 9th, 2009 at 4:12 pm#12 Old Hack,
And so CONgress gave Bush the necessary clemency, NO?
Of course, when the president does it that means it's not illegal, YES?
January 9th, 2009 at 4:12 pmWow, kind of absolving himself from, well, just about everything, isn't he!
CHENEY: Did you see it coming? (Laughter.)
REICHMANN: I wasn’t responsible for seeing it coming.
Good answer Reichmann! Did you ask Dick why he found that funny?
January 9th, 2009 at 4:13 pmAnswer to first question is? dirty old sock-puppet. Now that I know which mental-defective we are dealing with, it's time to flag and ignore. It's not even amusing.
January 9th, 2009 at 4:13 pmHi pete.
January 9th, 2009 at 4:14 pmThe endless LOL crap is sort ofamusing. Still even 9th graders have become bored with that simple shit... Well maybe they will have to g2g soon...
WesleyJI Says: C’MON MAN!
I know exactly the type of individual you refer to, he uses this phrase often. He is a very physically fit, and well built individual who belittles anyone who cannot do as many pushups, pullups, or lift as much weight as he can. He also picks on the least physically capable person on the crew.
January 9th, 2009 at 4:14 pmHe automatically interrupts and disputes others who may be offering information or suggestions.
Other than that, he is very minimally educated, has appalling bad situational awareness, and has hindered and even endangered the crew numerous times because he is more concerned with what others are doing than paying attention to his own performance.
See I told you they would have to g2g soon...
January 9th, 2009 at 4:14 pmDick chose himself for VP, that way he didn't have to be vetted, which he wouldn't have passed, which was the plan all along.
January 9th, 2009 at 4:14 pmi used to in Jr. High, but i didn’t join in High School.
To old by the time you got to high school?
January 9th, 2009 at 4:15 pmHea everyone,
WesleyJI is having fun supporting and defending ineptitude as exemplified by D!ck's inability to maintain a rational defense...
LOL, WesleyJI is so funny, NO?
WesleyJI, I didn't know that being a scoundrel was something worth defending?
January 9th, 2009 at 4:17 pmCan't foresee much when you're blinded by ideology.
January 9th, 2009 at 4:18 pmWesleyJI,
Perhaps you could enlighten us, with your superior intellect, about what you find so funny about our comments? So far, I have yet to see you refute anything anyone else said, just insult them.
BTW, the only people who say that everyone at GTMO is dangerous are the people trying so hard to make sure the prisoners never see the light of day. The problem we have, WesleyJI, is that very few of the prisoners at GTMO have been given the opportunity to challenge their detention in court. Basically, they are being held indefinitely based on Bush's say-so that they are dangerous. That strikes us as very tyrant-like.
January 9th, 2009 at 4:18 pmWhat kind of clown hangs out in liberal blogs to defend the "honor" of a disgraced hack like Cheney? Wasn't he the guy who "had a few beers" for lunch, shot his friend in the face later that afternoon, then sent another friend out to lie about it?
January 9th, 2009 at 4:19 pmWesleyJI,
January 9th, 2009 at 4:20 pmNobody is attempting to deny your ability to look and act and say silly and unhinged things...
I am not gonna flag you. I never flag anyone. I just sort of mess with them...
January 9th, 2009 at 4:20 pmAre McPoints still at play?
January 9th, 2009 at 4:22 pmThis is a case of LOL meaning loser onthe loose.
January 9th, 2009 at 4:22 pmI find it amusing how little conservatives (like our new friend here) understand the First Amendment. The First Amendment only guarantees that the government cannot suppress your speech. That doesn't mean private citizens can't. Your employer can fire you for publicly saying the products he sells suck. There is no violation of the First Amendment there, unless you work for the government.
And any blog has the right to prevent anyone they want from posting there. You do not have a constitutional right to post comments at a blog. If you did, the folks at FreeRepublic would be in shitloads of trouble.
January 9th, 2009 at 4:24 pm"...one of the commentators for the NFL. He is a short chubby dude."
This is the basis for WesleyJI's political discourse.
January 9th, 2009 at 4:24 pmKind of like the short chubby dude with 5 deferments pushing his dirty little war for oil... C'MON MAN!
I don't flag the amusing ones, db, but this type is just a waste of bandwidth. Nothing original. Not much apoplexy. And nothing topical that promotes further study of the subject at hand.
January 9th, 2009 at 4:24 pmSo what do you do when you are not going to far right and far left sites to announce your mastery of silliness and hilarity?
January 9th, 2009 at 4:25 pmI understand and appreicate that pete but sometimes they need a little extra time to hone their craft.
January 9th, 2009 at 4:26 pmWesleyJI Says:
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i haven’t defended Cheney, or anyone on the right this whole time. I slammed Obama’s stupid remark and it started a liberal forest fire.
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And there we have it, the confession of the desperate for attention of any type internet lost soul who struugles with real world relationships and seeks out by any means a response from others in order to feel.
Is that what you are saying?
January 9th, 2009 at 4:28 pmDick now:
"It’s not as though somebody went out and created a huge deficit because they like deficits."
Dick in 2002:
'O'Neill (Paul) said he tried to warn Vice President Dick Cheney that growing budget deficits-expected to top $500 billion this fiscal year alone-posed a threat to the economy. Cheney cut him off. "You know, Paul, Reagan proved deficits don't matter," he said, according to excerpts. Cheney continued: "We won the midterms (congressional elections). This is our due." A month later, Cheney told the Treasury secretary he was fired.
Okay then Dick, if the deficits weren't created just because somebody liked deficits, then why WERE they created?
January 9th, 2009 at 4:28 pmWesleyJI,
You still haven't answered my question, but I'll do you a favor (because I'm a nice liberal) and re-post the question I asked you, so you don't have to scroll back up to find it.
Perhaps you could enlighten us, with your superior intellect, about what you find so funny about our comments?
January 9th, 2009 at 4:29 pmCheney couldn't predict his own ass with both hands and a flashlight.
BTW, Arianna Huffington refers to this sort of thing as the "Who Could Have Known?" Era.
January 9th, 2009 at 4:29 pmI just read this at Obama's Change.gov website
Vice President-elect Biden, 12/21/08: “[T]he questions of whether or not a criminal act has been committed or a very, very, very bad judgment has been engaged in is—is something the Justice Department decides. Barack Obama and I are—President-elect Obama and I are not sitting thinking about the past. We’re focusing on the future… I’m not ruling [prosecution] in and not ruling it out. I just think we should look forward. I think we should be looking forward, not backwards.”
Is anyone else outraged about this ?
January 9th, 2009 at 4:32 pmjust answer Wayne's question please before the this gets any lamer.
January 9th, 2009 at 4:35 pm"the" should probably read "LOL" it seems...
January 9th, 2009 at 4:36 pmI think for some of our underage trolls, they forget the history of Dick Cheney. Cheney was a Nixon guy who thought the President could do no wrong. Cheney thought (and still thinks) the laws don't apply to the executive branch - even if he hilariously stated that the VP was a 'special' office, not belonging to either branch of govt.
Our young trolls seem to delight in our comments about the most hated man in America and arguable the most corrupt, ineffective and incompetent VP in our history. Laugh all you want trolls because surely we will have the last laugh.
Devotion to a nutcase - like Cheney - can lead to a dangerous condition known as insanity. But reading your words, it appears you are most likely already there. Can't help you son.
January 9th, 2009 at 4:37 pmDo you actually go back later and read this crap and feel some sort of pride? Weird...
January 9th, 2009 at 4:38 pmWesleyJI Says:
“may actually be dangerous”……LOL what a stupid thing to say!
January 9th, 2009 at 4:02 pm
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Why is that stupid? Obama is just acknowledging the reality that some of the people housed at Guantanamo currently may still constitute a threat to the United States, while most others do not and never did.
January 9th, 2009 at 4:38 pmI didn't declare it. I asked if it was so. BTW it is spelled with lowercase letters...
January 9th, 2009 at 4:41 pmWesleyJI Says:
C’MON MAN!
January 9th, 2009 at 4:40 pm
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Wow. You really are a moron.
January 9th, 2009 at 4:42 pmWell this thread is officially hijacked by a fool.
Later dudes.
January 9th, 2009 at 4:42 pmHey...I totally thought right-wingers could predict the future.
Certainly they do. Back in the 1980's, Reaganomics was going to pay off the deficit. (This fact makes a good one-liner at parties, by the way.)
More prognostications: When Bill Clinton was elected, the Right looked into the future and predicted disaster. But neither Clinton nor history listened.
After 9/11, the gaggle of incompetent traitors posing as an adminstration predicted many more domestic terror attacks (as did the 9/11 truth Movement, come to think of it). But of course, they were all out to lunch.
The Right predicted we would find WMD's. They predicted the people of Iraq would welcome us with roses, the war would last a few months and completely pay for itself. The wrong predictions about Iraq alone would fill several books!
Another good one: the Repubs boasted about the housing bubble...before it spoiled their fun by bursting. Rush Limbaugh said Obama could never get elected because America is too racist (that's why he urged his people to screw up the Democratic primary, to defeat Hillary).
More painfully, the Pubs thought they were going to be in power forever. Even Nostradamus couldn't have done worse...
Undeterred, the goofballs of the right are now predicting disaster because the Democrats are in power. Given their track record, this bodes well.
Wingnutania:
January 9th, 2009 at 4:43 pmhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVPy-ejcbjM
dbadass? "Aggressive"? WesleyJI, you're the one posting in all-caps. That is an indication of an aggressive personality.
January 9th, 2009 at 4:43 pmWesleyJI Says:
Damn, i have to go to work in an hour.
January 9th, 2009 at 4:12 pm
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Don't forget to put on your helmet before you leave the house. You might hurt yourself.
January 9th, 2009 at 4:43 pmI'll accept the boredom issue, but you can't really expect me to believe that you think yourself witty do you? You are going for more of an annoyance sort of response rather than a humor response correct?
January 9th, 2009 at 4:45 pmOf course you'll also notice that the Associated Press’s Deb Reichmann didn't have the balls to call Cheeny a LIAR to his face.
The FACTS, which she obviously ignored or made the choice not to research, state COMPLETELY the opposite of everything that this asshat says. This can only increase the hope that most REALITY-BASED media outlets DROP AP from their crap-feeder list and start looking at the FACTS themselves.
OR, AP turns into FOX...Close to the same now !!!
January 9th, 2009 at 4:45 pmWesleyJI likes short chubby sportscasters. C'MON MAN!
January 9th, 2009 at 4:45 pmI think we have gone as far as we can under the circumstances with our uneducated and delusional troll. Nothing more to say, nothng more to add. Some folks simply want an imperial monarchy where they are not asked to make any decisions or think for themselves. The have a cuboard of talking points they haul out when necessary, and this is what is hijacking the thread.
Let's leave the troll alone as I believe his nap time if quickly approaching. Nighty night, troll.
January 9th, 2009 at 4:47 pmWesleyJI Says:
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Mary, whats up? i just hijacked a blog, want a ride?
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January 9th, 2009 at 4:47 pmThis comment interests me. Are you willing to discuss it?
There are less that 12 days left in this slow-motion train wreck that is the administration of the Worst President Ever. It's pathetic to see how the roaches are scurrying now that the light is finally shining in their once safe darkness. Spin it as they may, truth will out.
January 9th, 2009 at 4:49 pmIf Only Congress Had Done It's Sworn Duty and Impeached!
I'll take that as a no. Scared?
January 9th, 2009 at 4:50 pmWesleyJI buses tables at a run down sports bar. They have 19 TV sets, and he has to keep the screens wiped down as well. He wears a helmet and jersey while he works, and bets customers he can catch in his teeth the shot glass balanced on his helmet.
January 9th, 2009 at 4:50 pmC'MON MAN!
Mark my words Wesley the imature idiot.
BUH BYE!
January 9th, 2009 at 4:52 pmWesleyJI,
January 9th, 2009 at 4:54 pmIn all seriousness as a student of behavior, I would really enjoy discussing number 94 in particular but also all your number posts and just your thoughts in general.
Thanks...
WesleyJI,
If you believe nothing else, believe that dbadass is sincere.
January 9th, 2009 at 4:56 pmDB,
As much as I believe your interest is sincere, it is however a pipedream in this case.
Sadly It is incapable of any serious thoughts or discussion.
The hijacking troll is to be ignored and flagged.
January 9th, 2009 at 4:57 pmThere were plenty of warning for 9/11 as well as for the economy melt down. 9/11 was an inside job and the economy, unlike the products of WallMart, was made in America!
January 9th, 2009 at 4:57 pmSure, the intelligent things you wrote were blocked and then they let you post all your junk. So are you Mr. P or AlphaInfinityOmega back for another day?
January 9th, 2009 at 4:59 pmWesleyJI may have been eating too many fish from inland lakes.
January 9th, 2009 at 4:59 pm117:
January 9th, 2009 at 5:00 pmAlright but am I still allowed to talk to that crazy lady with all those cats and that guy that mutters to himself about how the CIA implanted that thing in his brain? I really want to know those things that motivate people to do the things they do...
Fixed it for you. :)
January 9th, 2009 at 5:01 pmWhat happens when he's late to the meth lab?
January 9th, 2009 at 5:02 pmdbadass Says:
Alright but am I still allowed to talk to that crazy lady with all those cats and that guy that mutters to himself about how the CIA implanted that thing in his brain?
db, you can talk to Jane and me any time you want. :)
January 9th, 2009 at 5:03 pmThat is untrue. Greenspan, and many others, knew of the problems.
April 6 2001: Fed chair Alan Greenspan signals concern with "abusive lending practices that target vulnerable segments of the population and can result in unaffordable payments, equity stripping, and foreclosure."
January 9th, 2009 at 5:04 pmhttp://www.motherjones.com/news/feature/2008/07/where-credit-is-due-timeline.html
I think he only eats McDonalds. But his mother fed him old paint chips with broken thermometer mercury washes. Obviously.
January 9th, 2009 at 5:05 pmKakistocracy
January 9th, 2009 at 5:10 pmWesleyJI Says:
your imaginations are so wild……hahahaha lol
Your saying you have never had wild dreams?
Anyway, if you have used your mind you would know that many wars are fomented thru false flag attacks. It began with Kings, Tyrants, Monarchs and Martyrs who would send out knights, in disguise, to create an 'enemy' so that the King coud persue his agenda. It also kept the subjects from revolting and overthrowing the King. A case in study would be the Gulf of Tonkin incident.
January 9th, 2009 at 5:11 pmYesterday AIO outed himself as Razor_Boy who made an appearance here today. AIO is part of the Mr. P & CompTroller train wreck. They need to be flagged out of here.
January 9th, 2009 at 5:11 pmI agree Xisithrus, hell, I knew there were problems when I looked at a house, told the realtor she was asking about 50% over what it was realistically worth, and was told: "Just wait a year or two, and you'll get your money back.
BS
Cheney is busy denying anything and everything. He may not have known much about the economy, I'm sure he could have cared less.
January 9th, 2009 at 5:13 pmBut I can guarantee he had well laid plans for invasion, military exercises, and exploitation of foreign oil.
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January 9th, 2009 at 5:13 pmThank you Wayne. I sincerely appreciate that.
Guess WesleyJI had to go to his job, flipping burgers is hard work.
Did not know that they could hire fourteen year olds though.
January 9th, 2009 at 5:19 pmWesleyJI
You still play with yourself out of curiosity, right?
January 9th, 2009 at 5:20 pmWesleyJI
This site is not your text phone. Please stop spamming the threads.
January 9th, 2009 at 5:25 pmCheney is busy denying anything and everything. He may not have known much about the economy, I’m sure he could have cared less. -=Nevar=-
Funny how the best and brightest suddenly become the most uninformed and uninmaginative
January 9th, 2009 at 5:27 pmThat picture. Does Cheney think he has an ice cream cone in his hand?
January 9th, 2009 at 5:31 pmJust As No One Foresaw 9/11»
Except the architects of the plan that relied heavily on a non suspecting too trusting public ... and a public with respect for the executive power.. Funny how Cheney keeps bringing this topic up... Guilt? Fear of being found guilty?
January 9th, 2009 at 5:33 pmWayne, prior to that whole other weirdness, I had intended to ask what was up with this picture. I myself thought it might be some sort of secret sign of the Stonecutters or something. Either way I hope someone attaches the Stone of Shame to Cheney's ass...
January 9th, 2009 at 5:34 pmCaption contest: My Horn? My horn!, where is my horn!?
January 9th, 2009 at 5:37 pmThe way he is holding it makes me think he might be a dickhead...
January 9th, 2009 at 5:38 pmBut I can guarantee he had well laid plans for invasion, military exercises, and exploitation of foreign oil.
All laid out in PNAC written in the 90's... especially on page 51 that the public would need a new Pearl Harbor to agree on the project.
January 9th, 2009 at 5:39 pmThere were a lot more than a couple dozen Saudi Arabians who knew something was going to happen that day.
January 9th, 2009 at 5:47 pmNotice that it's just "nobody saw it coming" followed by absolutely no curiosity about how they missed something so huge. It's a denial---denial of knowledge, denial of responsibility, denial, denial, denial...
January 9th, 2009 at 5:53 pmFortunately there are lots of bloggers around to prevent these liars from totally rewriting history.
January 9th, 2009 at 5:56 pmWesleyJI Says:
You DEFINE MORON Wes. My GOLDFISH has a higher IQ than you ever will you worthless cretin
January 9th, 2009 at 5:59 pm... they're after the rest of it...
January 9th, 2009 at 6:00 pmBush Prepares to Ask for Second Tranche of Bailout Funds
Washington Post - 30 minutes ago
By David Cho and Lori Montgomery Senior Bush administration officials are preparing to ask lawmakers for the second half of the $700 billion financial rescue package despite intense opposition in Congress and then have President Bush use his veto if ...
WesleyJI Says:
You find US funny while you give us a free clown show? Your ignorance and abject stupidity is very amusing. Tell me is there a small corner of Arkansas where the inbreed you morons specially to vex lefty websites with your stupidity or is it that lefty websites attract the stupidest people on the Planet like YOU as simpering moronic trolls?
January 9th, 2009 at 6:04 pmBush-Cheney "Unseers, not Diligent"
January 9th, 2009 at 6:30 pmHey Cheney, it must be hard to "Foresee" anything when you have your head up your ass.
January 9th, 2009 at 7:16 pmCaption contest: "You want to stab the pencil in the crease between the bone plates, like this..."
I just find it amazing that Cheney admitted to being unable to predict such a long list of catastrophes - lots of people predicted a great many of those.
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He's probably gone now, but I'll see what I can do with that silly person's posts. There's a tiny bit of useful stuff there.
WesleyJI Says:
Are you telling me Obama, as genious as he is supposed to be, doesn’t know that some of the prisoners in Gitmo are dangerous? Are you kidding me?
None of them have been proven to be. If you doubt me, then prove that one is. Go ahead.
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WesleyJI Says:
what is a dirty sock puppet anyways? Educate me.
pete was wondering about the possibility that you might be a previous antagonistic commenter using a new username. They often do that once they've become so discredited that the mere sight of their name makes people just ignore their comments automatically.
The fact that you freely discredited yourself in your first comment here suggests to me that you're not.
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WesleyJI Says:
You are so much smarter than me, right?
Right.
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WesleyJI Says:
So ridden with conspiracy…..so intense! LOL. There is no doubt that the far left is was more silly than the far right. I’ve been to far right blogs, and they aren’t even close to as silly as this.
Obama was born in Kenya, and the Hawaiian Secretary of State intentionally produced a phony birth certificate on his behalf; he was trained from a very young age by ACORN and William Ayers specifically for the purpose of winning the Presidency (even though he's black and has a funny name). This was all done so that the violent radical far left agenda could insert a mole at the very top of this country for the purpose of bringing it to its knees and starting a Muslim Communist dictatorship.
I could move on to the relationship of that scenario to the Book of Revelation, but I think I'll just let that stand there as a prime example.
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By the way, this guy is the classic example of a "troll." He doesn't really have an opinion that he believes in, he just wants responses and attention. We often abuse the term around here to refer to anyone presenting a highly unpopular opinion; I abuse the term in this way myself, from time to time. But it's instructive to let WesleyJI serve as a reminder of what a true "troll" actually looks like.
January 9th, 2009 at 7:20 pmWesleyJI is basically akin to what your average troll takes out to the curb on Tuesdays.
January 9th, 2009 at 7:22 pmWesleyJI is basically akin to what your average troll takes out to the curb on Tuesdays. -=Nevar=-
Now now, no need in dragging his mother into this..
January 9th, 2009 at 7:48 pmPaul Krugman and others saw this coming so how can Dick Cheney claim that nobody saw this coming.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/14/business/economy/14econ.html?_r=1
It is not like Krugman is some lowly obscure blogger. In fact, it is more like everybody but the Bush administration saw this coming.
January 9th, 2009 at 7:49 pmCheney bold-faced lies when he says no one saw this coming.
(Nothing new there) There were economists trying to get their attention for years, but no one paid them any attention.
Cheney didn't see airplanes attacking the WTC either, even as he was supervising mock training missions of such events.
Cheney sees things that are not there (WMDs in Iraq, mushroom clouds) and he doesn't see things that are before his eyes.
May this man die a slow and agonizing death, cold, alone and screaming.
January 9th, 2009 at 7:58 pmRight, no one could see it, like Cheney, one of the ones who caused it. Put this guy in jail for his treason and war crimes.
January 9th, 2009 at 8:01 pmNo one foresaw it? Nobody forewarned it? Pleaseeeeee!
This man will die lying. They all will.
January 9th, 2009 at 8:16 pmA minor correction, DallasNE. Bushco saw it coming and did everything to ensure it happened so they could blame it on whoever ended up being the Democratic nominee. Fortunately, for our country, they were a little too efficient and the bubbles burst on their watch.
Now their only recourse is to lie and try to blame the upcoming depression on Obama. Even with the complicit media I don't like their chances of pulling that one off. We see the enemy and recognize them. They can't hide behind the curtain on this one.
January 9th, 2009 at 8:22 pmThe Red team turned corruption into a religion. If you look down Hippie, you don't have a leg to stand on. Lift up your white sheet!
January 9th, 2009 at 8:30 pmSo CrushonHippies,
You think Cheney is telling the truth?
YOU ARE THE PHUCKING LOOSER MORON!
GO CHENEY YOURSELF
January 9th, 2009 at 8:30 pmLook at the top of the thread, stupid troll. The big print is called a "headline". The headline establishes the topic of the thread. Come back when you figure out the significance of the topic. I won't wait.
January 9th, 2009 at 8:33 pmOMFG. If the charges against this individual are correct, its an example of the system working. That Cheney is still in office, much less walking around free, is a heinous example of the system totally failing. In years to come, as what he and the Worst Administration of the Worst President Ever come to light they will forever eclipse what Any corrupt democrat could Ever have dreamed of.
January 9th, 2009 at 8:33 pmIf Only They'd Have Impeached While There Was Time.
"What I'm saying is that a crisis is an event which can force democratic governments to make difficult decisions like those that will be required to create a North American Community."
"It's not that I want another 9/11 crisis, but having a crisis would force decisions that otherwise might not get made." - Dr. Robert A. Pastor (the principal visionary of the North American Union, stated in 2007)
January 9th, 2009 at 8:40 pmRandom chuckles
January 9th, 2009 at 8:44 pmCrushonHippies,
That all you got you pathetic excuse for a human?
If I were you, I would seriously consider commiting suicide.
HippyLicker drops by again to show how stupid and pathetic he is. The cool kids made him feel so inferior because he is. Give it up HippyLicker. You will spend the rest of your life ignorant and pathetic. Trying to annoy us by being a troll will never make up for your mental retardation.
January 9th, 2009 at 8:45 pmABHL,
January 9th, 2009 at 8:50 pmNail on the Head.
Heh. People, to use the term very loosely, who are stupid enough to respond to "stupid troll" as though it was their name are not typically allowed to pick the topic.
Do you turn your head every time someone says "dumba$$"? Yer ma must be so very proud.
January 9th, 2009 at 9:39 pmamerica shall be surely cursed should her citizens choose this history being written. torture can be one measure of a man's soul when we consider how an individual chooses to support the use of torture. when the experts seem to say it does not work we should be weary when dicky suggests we retain it as a weapon aganst terrorism. torture is terror. america only wins if the world wins so a current way of elite power thinking must simply disappear. be gone. and with it all its ugly little minions. coulter. o'reilly...
January 9th, 2009 at 9:51 pmNew motto for the Bush/Cheney legacy tour: Once a Liar, Always a Liar.
Which pretty much sums up the Republican Party today: Once a Liar, Always a Liar.
Or Faux News.
January 9th, 2009 at 9:57 pm9/11 made in USA
January 9th, 2009 at 10:01 pmHippie_crusher Says:
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Wow... all caps... must mean you're shouting at us, huh?
Get hysterical much?
BTW, nice mullet...
January 9th, 2009 at 10:37 pmHere Hippie, eat this, http://republicanoffenders.com/
January 9th, 2009 at 10:41 pmI missed the part where the Mayor of Baltimore sets national economic policy or invades foreign nations based on, admittedly, "faulty" intelligence. Seriously, as soon as Bushco admitted "the intelligence was wrong" they became war criminals.
January 9th, 2009 at 11:55 pmDallasNE Says:
In fact, it is more like everybody but the Bush administration saw this coming.
Precisely. By admitting such a long list of their failures, Cheney really showed their hand there.
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Hippie_crusher Says:
Sheila Dixon...
Yet again, HC busts into a thread to sob about a topic not being discussed.
It seems like he's incapable of defending any point on any of the topics that have been presented here.
Tip: HC, post your off-topic info in the "thinkfast" thread posted daily.
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Hippie_crusher Says:
Random loser, HAS CHENEY BEEN INDICTED?
I wasn't aware that one has to be indicted in order for others to support their impeachment. Or that one has to be indicted in order for others to support their indictment.
He will be. On that day, you'll be nowhere to be seen, such is his support.
PS: Capslock is cruise control for cool, amirite?
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pete Says:
Seriously, as soon as Bushco admitted “the intelligence was wrong” they became war criminals.
Dead on. The President is responsible for the effectiveness of his intelligence-gathering srevices, and for the accuracy of the intelligence they obtain. To be "responsible" means there are real consequences for failing to do your duty.
The buck stops.
January 10th, 2009 at 12:28 amOh not much, maybe just make you look like a tool...
January 10th, 2009 at 1:12 amChicken crusher has some mental problems...
...oh, forgot, he is a lemming....sorry, my bad.
January 10th, 2009 at 2:31 amNo one in the republican party could see anything coming.
Because they weren't looking.
They lack vision.........!
Just like they didn't see Obama coming.....
January 10th, 2009 at 3:24 amWrong!
There were a thousands economysts who predicted crisis. One of them ask: "What is the different between American capitalism and Russian communism? Non! People in those system got everything for fictive money."
No, we all have to pay them their credits and loans.
January 10th, 2009 at 5:40 am"Bonk bonk on your head"
January 10th, 2009 at 10:33 amCaption... think Ralph Wiggum...
Cheney: "I'm a UNITARD!"
January 10th, 2009 at 11:49 amMW definition of predict=: foretell on the basis of observation, experience, or scientific reason. Let’s see…observation. Nope can’t see much when they all had their heads so far up each others butts. Experience? Nope, just a bunch of green rookies. Scientific reason? Don’t make me laugh.
January 10th, 2009 at 11:51 amOf course the operative word in the whole thing is foretell. That old need-to-know business.
"It’s OVER!!!!"
So what's next, "screw you guys, I'm goin' home?"
If only.
January 10th, 2009 at 11:56 amCheney is a silly man. His own president was concerned about the real estate market imploding and taking down the rest of the economy. He sounds senile talking like this.
January 10th, 2009 at 3:18 pmhey hippie_crusher,
i'd like to apologize for raping mom. sorry
January 10th, 2009 at 4:01 pmmeant to say "raping YOUR mom". man, i just can't type today
January 10th, 2009 at 4:02 pmI think that it would be impossible for me to recall more than thirty or forty authoritative people who "saw it coming" for up to three years. There are even fewer who have been predicting it for up to twenty years.
January 10th, 2009 at 4:05 pmHippie_crusher Says:
You guys are f@cking losers. It’s OVER!!!!
What are you going to do now?????
Last I checked, I coulda sworn our "side" increased its majorities in both houses of Congress, and won the Presidency. Yeah, I'm fairly certain we've pretty much everything lately. Gonna win some more in 2010.
You might want to go take another look at those election results, Crushy.
January 10th, 2009 at 6:01 pmno one knew there was going to be trouble?
thats a big load of....lies..
check out this article:
http://www.thestreet.com/story/10372963/1/bear-stearns-fat-cats-cashed-out-at-the-top.html
Bear Stearns fat cats cashed out at the top..
January 10th, 2009 at 7:49 pmcheck it out...and spread the word..
The legal term for this is Depraved Indifference.
January 10th, 2009 at 8:43 pmThe first thing I do when I post in a blog, is make sure I don't use caps, except to emphasize a word, or when a cap is required. I also spend time figuring out ways to say what I need to say [even tho I usually want to tell these mofo-ing simple simon monkeys to eat shit and die], without coming across as an idiot countering an idiot.
January 10th, 2009 at 11:29 pmIt must be swell knowing you're the most devious politician in American history.
January 11th, 2009 at 3:50 amDamn, where's my fire extinguisher, back to the topic, I thought the government had "departments, agency's, and committee's who's job it is to prevent this kinda thing from happening. But, it seems that they don't. With ALL the government we have, and the ridiculous salary's they get for doing nothing, and wanting to raise tax's to pay for more "do nothings", just makes me want to projectile vomit.
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March 1st, 2009 at 11:31 amI can’t believe that Cheney said that nobody predicted the economic crisis. As the article mentions, there were a number of experts who saw the crisis coming. But now, the most important point is how to get out of the crisis. I read a CEO magazine interview with Med Yones, economic oracle, who predicted the economic crisis in detail in January 2007. The interview gives a comprehensive overview of the health of the U.S. economy, the causes of the economic crisis, a future outlook and solutions to the crisis, such as enhancing the competitiveness of US industries, and improving the business environment to attract more investments. For further details, please take a look at http://www.ceoqmagazine.com/2009Q1/economics/financialcrisis/index.htm
March 30th, 2009 at 6:30 pmI hope that politicians learned from their past mistakes and start to listen to the people who foretold the crisis, and not to those who missed it.