Sometimes, you’ve gotta take the bad with the good. Taking the Gitmo folks is just the price you’ve gotta pay for all that money.

I’m sure all those vulnerable corn fields and livestock are ripe on terrorist’s minds for punishment for Gitmo and Iraq.

And if I have to hear NIMBY about sight lines being ruined in the middle of nowhere, where needed high capacity power lines are needed in southern California, I’m taking up a petition on getting a Proposition passed to lawfully slap people on the books.

Look. It’s not like these guys are all going to break out of Leavenworth, load up on Kansas strip steaks and launch a devastating terrorist attack. Ever. It’s freakin’ Leavenworth!

Methinks this isn’t just a case of NIMBY but NMIMBY: No Muslims In My Back Yard.

-AF
Andrew Sullivan Is A Fraud

Our base there is separated by a mini DMZ from the cubans – and on their side is also a very low fence, where they do target shooting most of the day. So, walking along the american side, you always have to duck, or you may just get shot in the head. Not a real great incentive for a prisoner of war there to want to try to break out, with trigger happy cubans on one side and a big ocean on the other.

That being said, what has happened at Gitmo is clearly illegal and morally reprehensible. But those prisoners will have to go somewhere, so the “not in my backyard” attitude on the part of individual states probably won’t go very far. For some of those prisoners are indeed extremely dangerous. Others are accidents or mistakes on the part of the allies.

In your dreams is Gitmo closing…………..as soon as the Obama and teem see a REAL intelligence/CIA report AND a briefing on info still available not yet extracted knees will get week and down they go

And how does an Internet troll have access to this information that has somehow been kept secret from everyone important in Washington? Heavens, even Cheney and Rove must not have known about, it, or it would have been leaked to influence the presidential election and keep them in power and out of jail.

Someone needs to detain LushInterior and extract the source of this leaked intelligence information from him.

January 10th, 2009 at 12:47 pm

Hi, LushInterior,

You know, I could be wrong, but I was under the impression that Obama and his top people have been getting daily intelligence briefings since Nov 5th.

Perhaps you could please explain what you mean by this:
AND a briefing on info still available not yet extracted

What kind of info is still available but “not yet extracted”, and how do you brief someone about this?

Gude’s final sentence is the operative principle. If we want to regain respect from our current enemies, we must house the remaining Gitmo prisoners in very decent digs and make sure they enjoy at least the same rights American prisoners do.

And could we please stop calling them “detainees,” as if we had just asked them to stop in for tea? “I beg your pardon, I don’t mean to detain you, but I only just put the kettle on….” People who’ve been (tortured &) invited to be guests of the state for 7 years are “prisoners.”

The Constant Weader at http://www.RealityChex.com

The first thing you do is fly a bunch of JAG lawyers down to Gitmo to “secure the evidence”–the evidence against the torturers and whatever the torturers think they have against the prisoners. That stops prisoner abuse instantly and we get cheered by the international community.

Then, without any melodrama, staging, or congressional debate, start shipping out people for “legal interviews” at whatever military brigs are readily available in the states, let the prisoners talk to their lawyers there, and forget to book any of them passage back to Cuba.

You’ll have all the people out of Gitmo in two weeks while the NIMBYs and fake patriots are still trying to figure out where to protest, pontificate, and posture.

I see this type of apologia from all sides every time the Gitmo shutdown is discussed, and I insist it is absolute bollocks!

Most of the captives were taken from an active war zone and shipped like dangerous freight 6,000 miles with ease.
The adjunct operation of rendition was also accomplished with ease. The closing of Gitmo only involves the shipping of the captives some 90-300 miles, most of it in US airspace.

If Ken Gude is instead referring that the political component of ‘the job’ is not easy, well I’d argue that half the problem is the constant acquiescence to the notion of what is ‘difficult’. Accepting that it is ‘difficult’ makes it difficult!
Closing Gitmo is a no-brainer and it is simple, just as it was simple to establish in the first place.

Example:

As US history has shown with no problem from American Leaders we locked up Chinese/Japanse just because we were at War, we had no problem keeping slaves and that thinking is still execpted by the KKK now on to Iraq/Al Queada detainees.

I know Law Makers and Christian Republicans don’t want to admit we have for 8 years done these crimes. Cheney admitted it in an interview but knows some of those detainees are well respected innocent men/children and if their names were released and their condition seen all hell would break out. Most of the detainees Family don’t know their held in Gitmo and some think their dead.

There’s not a 1,000 character limit here (as on HuffPo)in case that’s the reason you post as you do.
I’ve often posted page-long comments with no complaint as to their length because the content has been reasonable (as yours have been).
Greater legibility will improve the impact of your comments on the discussion thread–whilst CAPITALS equate to ’shouting’, a solid block of text appears as ‘blurting’ during a pause in conversation.

Fred Says:

LushInterior Says:
Fred your logic is flawed….the “psychologist” did not know of the regressive gene carried by his wife and passed unknowingly to the children leaving him “holding the bag”….

Is that how you explain your ignorance…..regressive gene?

I was so sure it was fetal alcohol syndrome.

LushInterior Says:
Fred your logic is flawed….the “psychologist” did not know of the regressive gene carried by his wife and passed unknowingly to the children leaving him “holding the bag”….

Is that how you explain your ignorance…..regressive gene?

LushInterior Says:

db…very good…Fred your logic is flawed….the “psychologist” did not know of the regressive gene carried by his wife and passed unknowingly to the children leaving him “holding the bag”….kinda like Obama in Chicago where everyone around him was flawed and he escaped unscathed.

Is this what passes for critical thinking in your trailer park InferiorLush? Sitting there in your double wide calling everyone in Chicago flawed. You ought to actually go to a big city once in your life, loser.

Fred Says:

point taken dbadass. But you have to admit, coming from people like lush, it’s kinda like a divorced phychologist with two children in drug rehab giving family counseling.

Or Sarah Palin talking about small town family values.