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		<title>By: loxias</title>
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		<dc:creator>loxias</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 18:20:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>maybe

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		<title>By: AlexMa</title>
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		<dc:creator>AlexMa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 20:26:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Torture does not provide &quot;intelligence&quot;.
It may provide information.
The information obtained through torture and duress is inherently suspect, and always needs corroboration.
Far more, and more reliable, information is obtained through rapport and compassion.
AlexMa
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Torture does not provide &#8220;intelligence&#8221;.<br />
It may provide information.<br />
The information obtained through torture and duress is inherently suspect, and always needs corroboration.<br />
Far more, and more reliable, information is obtained through rapport and compassion.<br />
AlexMa<br />
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		<title>By: Clayton W. Wentworth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clayton W. Wentworth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 21:04:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In response to ElBruce:-

For a complete run down on the gas price situation - go to this link - http://www.tvotw.com/0195_06_20_2004.htm

I have been personally involved at management level. I can speak with authority on these matters.

Best regards,

Clayton W. Wentworth.

http://www.tvotw.com/index2.htm

http://www.theglobalfundforpeacejusticeanddevelopment.net</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In response to ElBruce:-</p>
<p>For a complete run down on the gas price situation &#8211; go to this link &#8211; <a href="http://www.tvotw.com/0195_06_20_2004.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.tvotw.com/0195_06_20_2004.htm</a></p>
<p>I have been personally involved at management level. I can speak with authority on these matters.</p>
<p>Best regards,</p>
<p>Clayton W. Wentworth.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.tvotw.com/index2.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.tvotw.com/index2.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: DRAGONWOLF13</title>
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		<dc:creator>DRAGONWOLF13</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 14:41:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eugene Debutante, you certainly lived up to my expectations. Of course, since those expectaions were so low, there was ABSOLUTELY no way you could disappoint.  Since I find that trading insults with someone who so obviously never progressed into adulthood to be antithetical to intellectual stimulation, I will now consider you like the mosquito that you are ( annoying but tolerable ) and treat you the same way that your mother should have treated your father on the day you were concieved, that is, ignore you. And, since I can tell the thought may have crossed your puny little brain, I work my own hours, vacation when and where I want, and NET almost 100k/year ( it almost pains me to think that someone with your limited range of thought earns in the same neighborhood as myself.)  Adios, Ed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eugene Debutante, you certainly lived up to my expectations. Of course, since those expectaions were so low, there was ABSOLUTELY no way you could disappoint.  Since I find that trading insults with someone who so obviously never progressed into adulthood to be antithetical to intellectual stimulation, I will now consider you like the mosquito that you are ( annoying but tolerable ) and treat you the same way that your mother should have treated your father on the day you were concieved, that is, ignore you. And, since I can tell the thought may have crossed your puny little brain, I work my own hours, vacation when and where I want, and NET almost 100k/year ( it almost pains me to think that someone with your limited range of thought earns in the same neighborhood as myself.)  Adios, Ed.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5422216', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: EugeneDebs</title>
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		<dc:creator>EugeneDebs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 09:28:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh by the way MoronWolf if you want to discuss things without the flamewar YOU START. What ya got? As long as you are insulting me you can bet the farm I will return serve. Even someone as stupid as you should be able to understand the dynamic</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh by the way MoronWolf if you want to discuss things without the flamewar YOU START. What ya got? As long as you are insulting me you can bet the farm I will return serve. Even someone as stupid as you should be able to understand the dynamic<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5422124', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: EugeneDebs</title>
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		<dc:creator>EugeneDebs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 09:26:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dumbwolf

You arent sure of anything moron. YOU are too stupid to know that water is wet. Of COURSE you arent a therapist. I would be shocked if someone as ignorant as you passed third grade. You can keep on pretending to amazing mind reading powers as to how my life is and what my job is. I am sure it takes your mind off of the other special kids making fun of you on the shortbus. If we are just imagining things I imagine you spend all YOUR time in your mommys basement either typing and eating cheetos or playing with that rubber blowup dolly that is the closest thing to a woman you will ever touch. The projection here is all yours. You come in spewing insults then whine piteously about MY insults. It isny my fault you are so stupid. You will have to learn to live with that. Trying to take it out on me is not only pathetic its worthless. I have a great life and love being me. Since you are so interested I have had the same union job for more than thirty years. Make better than a hundred K and get five weeks vacation with great benifits. No one as stupid as you could possibly pass the tests we take so dont even dream about being me. Face it you are a moronic loser and that just isnt going to change. The best you can ever hope for is to RECOGNIZE logic and higher brain function. Performing the tasks will forever be beyond your wildest dreams.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dumbwolf</p>
<p>You arent sure of anything moron. YOU are too stupid to know that water is wet. Of COURSE you arent a therapist. I would be shocked if someone as ignorant as you passed third grade. You can keep on pretending to amazing mind reading powers as to how my life is and what my job is. I am sure it takes your mind off of the other special kids making fun of you on the shortbus. If we are just imagining things I imagine you spend all YOUR time in your mommys basement either typing and eating cheetos or playing with that rubber blowup dolly that is the closest thing to a woman you will ever touch. The projection here is all yours. You come in spewing insults then whine piteously about MY insults. It isny my fault you are so stupid. You will have to learn to live with that. Trying to take it out on me is not only pathetic its worthless. I have a great life and love being me. Since you are so interested I have had the same union job for more than thirty years. Make better than a hundred K and get five weeks vacation with great benifits. No one as stupid as you could possibly pass the tests we take so dont even dream about being me. Face it you are a moronic loser and that just isnt going to change. The best you can ever hope for is to RECOGNIZE logic and higher brain function. Performing the tasks will forever be beyond your wildest dreams.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5422122', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: DRAGONWOLF13</title>
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		<dc:creator>DRAGONWOLF13</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 07:59:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eugene Debutante, I&#039;m not by any means a therapist, but I&#039;m pretty certain that the venom you so liberally ( emphasis on liberal = limp-wristed pansy ) spew is a reflection of your own self-hatred and an extremely over-the-top attempt to make up for your MANY failings and shortcomings. As for getting spanked...let&#039;s just say I&#039;m pretty sure you ride to work in a tiny car with a dozen other individuals with big red noses.  Again, the invitation to discuss/debate anything of intellectual merit stands.  You claim to have a &quot; funtioning cerebral cortex &quot; so here is your opportunity to PROVE it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eugene Debutante, I&#8217;m not by any means a therapist, but I&#8217;m pretty certain that the venom you so liberally ( emphasis on liberal = limp-wristed pansy ) spew is a reflection of your own self-hatred and an extremely over-the-top attempt to make up for your MANY failings and shortcomings. As for getting spanked&#8230;let&#8217;s just say I&#8217;m pretty sure you ride to work in a tiny car with a dozen other individuals with big red noses.  Again, the invitation to discuss/debate anything of intellectual merit stands.  You claim to have a &#8221; funtioning cerebral cortex &#8221; so here is your opportunity to PROVE it.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5422114', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: EugeneDebs</title>
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		<dc:creator>EugeneDebs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 06:17:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DRAGONWOLF13 Says: 

You are an ignorant punk DW. The first post I saw from you adovocated pretty much genocide in the middle east. You are a simpleminded moron who got your feelings hurt because you got spanked. Get over it. You are stupid it is going to happen again and again. Your stupidity is permanent you wont grow out of it. You will never have a functioning cerebral cortex nor the ability for higher brain function. Spewing your hivemind talking points and basic stupidity is the only thing you will ever be capable of then one of the liberals here will spank you again because you are too stupid to be anything more than batting practice. No sense in getting frustrated about it. If God had meant you to make sense or cogent arguments he would have given you a functional brain. He didnt and you never will. Accept your fate. You will  be a moron forever. A free clown show is the ONLY thing you have to offer.</description>
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<p>You are an ignorant punk DW. The first post I saw from you adovocated pretty much genocide in the middle east. You are a simpleminded moron who got your feelings hurt because you got spanked. Get over it. You are stupid it is going to happen again and again. Your stupidity is permanent you wont grow out of it. You will never have a functioning cerebral cortex nor the ability for higher brain function. Spewing your hivemind talking points and basic stupidity is the only thing you will ever be capable of then one of the liberals here will spank you again because you are too stupid to be anything more than batting practice. No sense in getting frustrated about it. If God had meant you to make sense or cogent arguments he would have given you a functional brain. He didnt and you never will. Accept your fate. You will  be a moron forever. A free clown show is the ONLY thing you have to offer.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5422102', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: DRAGONWOLF13</title>
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		<dc:creator>DRAGONWOLF13</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 05:54:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dbadbass, look into a childs&#039; eyes...if you are moved in a positive way, you have a soul, if you see a potential victim, you don&#039;t. If you don&#039;t get this, you are Eugene Debs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dbadbass, look into a childs&#8217; eyes&#8230;if you are moved in a positive way, you have a soul, if you see a potential victim, you don&#8217;t. If you don&#8217;t get this, you are Eugene Debs.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5422096', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: dbadass</title>
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		<dc:creator>dbadass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 04:47:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So about that soul thing?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So about that soul thing?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5422066', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: DRAGONWOLF13</title>
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		<dc:creator>DRAGONWOLF13</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 04:37:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eugebe Debs, anyone who doesn&#039;t agree with your views most certainly must have been &quot; programmed to spew this idiocy better than Pavlov&#039;s dogs.&quot;  After reading your ( mostly ) uniformed and severely biased posts, the only thing I wanted to &quot; spew &quot; was my lunch ! You make me weep for this county&#039;s future, because there are far too many uninformed and simple-minded cretins ( like yourself ) in this country who share your views. Myself and the other &quot; short bus &quot; riders laugh when we see such idiocy !  Of course, I do understand that arguing with you is akin to arguing with a block of cement ( which is no doubt an apt description of what resides between your ears ) but, if you wish to present anything at all in the way of an intelligent and informed ( without bias ) point, I am most certainly willing to listen and/or debate the FACTS.  As to your view that I am several rungs below &quot; pond scum &quot;, it is still a better view from up here than the one you must have. I do hope that in the future you take the time to review and analyze the facts ( not just what the America-hating spin- doctors propogate ) before offering your ( mostly ) worthless opinions on any subject.  A good start would be a history review, because, as the saying goes, &quot; if we fail to learn from history, we are doomed to repeat it.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eugebe Debs, anyone who doesn&#8217;t agree with your views most certainly must have been &#8221; programmed to spew this idiocy better than Pavlov&#8217;s dogs.&#8221;  After reading your ( mostly ) uniformed and severely biased posts, the only thing I wanted to &#8221; spew &#8221; was my lunch ! You make me weep for this county&#8217;s future, because there are far too many uninformed and simple-minded cretins ( like yourself ) in this country who share your views. Myself and the other &#8221; short bus &#8221; riders laugh when we see such idiocy !  Of course, I do understand that arguing with you is akin to arguing with a block of cement ( which is no doubt an apt description of what resides between your ears ) but, if you wish to present anything at all in the way of an intelligent and informed ( without bias ) point, I am most certainly willing to listen and/or debate the FACTS.  As to your view that I am several rungs below &#8221; pond scum &#8220;, it is still a better view from up here than the one you must have. I do hope that in the future you take the time to review and analyze the facts ( not just what the America-hating spin- doctors propogate ) before offering your ( mostly ) worthless opinions on any subject.  A good start would be a history review, because, as the saying goes, &#8221; if we fail to learn from history, we are doomed to repeat it.&#8221;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5422052', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: EugeneDebs</title>
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		<dc:creator>EugeneDebs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 02:55:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ElBruce Says: 


EugeneDebs Says: 

I have an IQ that puts your sad little pea brain in the toilet…

You WISH you had my career…

E-Peen alert. Woop, woop!
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;

In my defense I have a housecat that is better than Uidiot also and he is dead</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ElBruce Says: </p>
<p>EugeneDebs Says: </p>
<p>I have an IQ that puts your sad little pea brain in the toilet…</p>
<p>You WISH you had my career…</p>
<p>E-Peen alert. Woop, woop!<br />
&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;</p>
<p>In my defense I have a housecat that is better than Uidiot also and he is dead<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5421918', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: ElBruce</title>
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		<dc:creator>ElBruce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 01:46:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;ysoserious Says: 

The Left loves to play the blame game. All of the world’s problems are Bush’s fault. The economy is his fault, the high gas prices were his fault (but he had nothing to do with them coming back down), the war is his fault. &lt;/em&gt;

Correct.  

One exception: honestly, I have no idea why the gas prices came down, and it&#039;s weird that nobody&#039;s reporting on it.  Do gas prices fluctuate randomly, or what?  If there are reasons for the drop, what are they?  Might those factors cause a wild increase later?  I don&#039;t know, because nobody&#039;s telling me.  Apparently, as long as the news is what we want to hear, nobody digs any deeper.  I find this highly disconcerting.

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&lt;em&gt;ysoserious Says: 

Let’s not lose sight of the fact that he took us to war in Iraq because of failed intelligence - intelligence that we’ve been gathering for years, long before he even took office. Should we blame Clinton for that? And you think that intelligence is going to IMPROVE by playing nice. Okay, good luck with that.&lt;/em&gt;

The President is responsible for selecting the people in charge of the intelligence agencies.  When it comes to making a decision as consequential as starting a war, he&#039;s also responsible for checking the intelligence.  Let&#039;s go into that a bit closer: BushCo claimed that the information given to them was &quot;real evidence, not just a summary.&quot;  We found out later, that it was just a summary.  I could go further and discuss the Office of the Vice President &quot;pipelining&quot; intelligence past analysts who could determine its value, but I think the evidence/summary thing alone stands as sufficient reason to claim that: A) Bush lied about the war, and B) Bush didn&#039;t care if the &quot;intelligence was wrong&quot; so long as it told him what he wanted to hear.

Let&#039;s go over this step by step:
&lt;strong&gt;1)&lt;/strong&gt; Bush stocked the intelligence agency with loyal partisans.
&lt;strong&gt;2)&lt;/strong&gt; Bush &amp; Co. hinted/cajoled/threatened the loyal partisans in the intelligence agencies to find a reason to attack Iraq.
&lt;strong&gt;3)&lt;/strong&gt; Cheney was &quot;pipelining&quot; the &quot;raw intelligence&quot; that said Iraq had WMD&#039;s and/or was in league with Al-Qaeda directly to the White House, bypassing analysts who could determine whether those were important tips or just biased rumors.
&lt;strong&gt;4)&lt;/strong&gt; The intelligence agencies finally presented Bush with a summary statement saying Iraq had WMD&#039;s and was in league with Al-Qaeda.
&lt;strong&gt;5)&lt;/strong&gt; Bush made the decision to launch a preventive war (the first in U.S. history since the Spanish-American war) with no exit strategy (for the first time since Vietnam).  Further even-longer-term &quot;firsts&quot; would follow.
&lt;strong&gt;6)&lt;/strong&gt; Bush &amp; Co. used the summary statement provided by the intelligence agencies to convince Congress, our allies, and the American public that they knew that Iraq had WMD&#039;s and was in league with Al-Qaeda.  They didn&#039;t show anyone any evidence (although our allies and Congress saw the summary) and told us all to trust them.
&lt;strong&gt;7)&lt;/strong&gt; Buch &amp; Co. made the argument to Congress that they needed an authorization of force from the Senate so they could &quot;negotiate from a position of strength&quot; with Saddam.
&lt;strong&gt;8)&lt;/strong&gt; Within the same week that the authorization of force had passed, Bush claimed that &quot;diplomacy has failed&quot; and began mobilizing the military into the area.

Who&#039;s fault is that?

Next up, a brain-teaser: what result does militarily destablizing the Middle East have on the price of oil?

Later we can talk about a little thing called &quot;deregulation.&quot;

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&lt;em&gt;EugeneDebs Says: 

I have an IQ that puts your sad little pea brain in the toilet...

You WISH you had my career...&lt;/em&gt;

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<p>The Left loves to play the blame game. All of the world’s problems are Bush’s fault. The economy is his fault, the high gas prices were his fault (but he had nothing to do with them coming back down), the war is his fault. </em></p>
<p>Correct.  </p>
<p>One exception: honestly, I have no idea why the gas prices came down, and it&#8217;s weird that nobody&#8217;s reporting on it.  Do gas prices fluctuate randomly, or what?  If there are reasons for the drop, what are they?  Might those factors cause a wild increase later?  I don&#8217;t know, because nobody&#8217;s telling me.  Apparently, as long as the news is what we want to hear, nobody digs any deeper.  I find this highly disconcerting.</p>
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<p><em>ysoserious Says: </p>
<p>Let’s not lose sight of the fact that he took us to war in Iraq because of failed intelligence &#8211; intelligence that we’ve been gathering for years, long before he even took office. Should we blame Clinton for that? And you think that intelligence is going to IMPROVE by playing nice. Okay, good luck with that.</em></p>
<p>The President is responsible for selecting the people in charge of the intelligence agencies.  When it comes to making a decision as consequential as starting a war, he&#8217;s also responsible for checking the intelligence.  Let&#8217;s go into that a bit closer: BushCo claimed that the information given to them was &#8220;real evidence, not just a summary.&#8221;  We found out later, that it was just a summary.  I could go further and discuss the Office of the Vice President &#8220;pipelining&#8221; intelligence past analysts who could determine its value, but I think the evidence/summary thing alone stands as sufficient reason to claim that: A) Bush lied about the war, and B) Bush didn&#8217;t care if the &#8220;intelligence was wrong&#8221; so long as it told him what he wanted to hear.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s go over this step by step:<br />
<strong>1)</strong> Bush stocked the intelligence agency with loyal partisans.<br />
<strong>2)</strong> Bush &amp; Co. hinted/cajoled/threatened the loyal partisans in the intelligence agencies to find a reason to attack Iraq.<br />
<strong>3)</strong> Cheney was &#8220;pipelining&#8221; the &#8220;raw intelligence&#8221; that said Iraq had WMD&#8217;s and/or was in league with Al-Qaeda directly to the White House, bypassing analysts who could determine whether those were important tips or just biased rumors.<br />
<strong>4)</strong> The intelligence agencies finally presented Bush with a summary statement saying Iraq had WMD&#8217;s and was in league with Al-Qaeda.<br />
<strong>5)</strong> Bush made the decision to launch a preventive war (the first in U.S. history since the Spanish-American war) with no exit strategy (for the first time since Vietnam).  Further even-longer-term &#8220;firsts&#8221; would follow.<br />
<strong>6)</strong> Bush &amp; Co. used the summary statement provided by the intelligence agencies to convince Congress, our allies, and the American public that they knew that Iraq had WMD&#8217;s and was in league with Al-Qaeda.  They didn&#8217;t show anyone any evidence (although our allies and Congress saw the summary) and told us all to trust them.<br />
<strong>7)</strong> Buch &amp; Co. made the argument to Congress that they needed an authorization of force from the Senate so they could &#8220;negotiate from a position of strength&#8221; with Saddam.<br />
<strong>8)</strong> Within the same week that the authorization of force had passed, Bush claimed that &#8220;diplomacy has failed&#8221; and began mobilizing the military into the area.</p>
<p>Who&#8217;s fault is that?</p>
<p>Next up, a brain-teaser: what result does militarily destablizing the Middle East have on the price of oil?</p>
<p>Later we can talk about a little thing called &#8220;deregulation.&#8221;</p>
<p>.</p>
<p><em>EugeneDebs Says: </p>
<p>I have an IQ that puts your sad little pea brain in the toilet&#8230;</p>
<p>You WISH you had my career&#8230;</em></p>
<p>E-Peen alert.  Woop, woop!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5421842', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: dbadass</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 23:17:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seems excessive Clayton...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems excessive Clayton&#8230;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5421598', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Clayton W. Wentworth</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2009/01/11/bush-authorized-torture/comment-page-6/#comment-5421574</link>
		<dc:creator>Clayton W. Wentworth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 23:09:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Global Fund &quot;Mission&quot; statement is at - http://www.theglobalfundforpeacejusticeanddevelopment.net/0206_20Nov2008.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Global Fund &#8220;Mission&#8221; statement is at &#8211; <a href="http://www.theglobalfundforpeacejusticeanddevelopment.net/0206_20Nov2008.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.theglobalfundforpeacejusticeanddevelopment.net/0206_20Nov2008.htm</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5421574', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Clayton W. Wentworth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clayton W. Wentworth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 23:03:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also - listen to what Scott Rotter says about Bush. Ritter - an American - was Chief UN Weapons Inspector in Iraq for 7 years. HE KNOWS WHAT HE IS TALKING ABOUT - http://www.tvotw.com/TVOTW_InResponseToBush_CarrierDeclaration_2May2003.htm#ScottRitter</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also &#8211; listen to what Scott Rotter says about Bush. Ritter &#8211; an American &#8211; was Chief UN Weapons Inspector in Iraq for 7 years. HE KNOWS WHAT HE IS TALKING ABOUT &#8211; <a href="http://www.tvotw.com/TVOTW_InResponseToBush_CarrierDeclaration_2May2003.htm#ScottRitter" rel="nofollow">http://www.tvotw.com/TVOTW_InResponseToBush_CarrierDeclaration_2May2003.htm#ScottRitter</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5421558', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Clayton W. Wentworth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clayton W. Wentworth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 22:59:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Email everyone - &quot;BUSH KNEW !!!&quot; - http://www.tvotw.com/index2.htm These 2 words need to be on the lips OF EVERY AMERICAN - AND QUICKLY !!!

Email everyone you know asking them to join the &quot;Facebook&quot; group - &quot;HE KNEW !!!&quot;

Have everyone sign up to &quot;Twitter&quot; at http://twitter.com/home and become followers of &quot;TheGlobalFund&quot;.

An open letter has been sent to Obama at - http://www.tvotw.com/0246_7Dec2008.htm

Email and ask everyone to support The Global Fund at - http://www.theglobalfundforpeacejusticeanddevelopment.net/PJD_Relevance.htm

The BBC conspiracy is at - http://www.tvotw.com/0208_23Feb2006.htm

Any other questions - email to - claytonw.wentworth@tvotw.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Email everyone &#8211; &#8220;BUSH KNEW !!!&#8221; &#8211; <a href="http://www.tvotw.com/index2.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.tvotw.com/index2.htm</a> These 2 words need to be on the lips OF EVERY AMERICAN &#8211; AND QUICKLY !!!</p>
<p>Email everyone you know asking them to join the &#8220;Facebook&#8221; group &#8211; &#8220;HE KNEW !!!&#8221;</p>
<p>Have everyone sign up to &#8220;Twitter&#8221; at <a href="http://twitter.com/home" rel="nofollow">http://twitter.com/home</a> and become followers of &#8220;TheGlobalFund&#8221;.</p>
<p>An open letter has been sent to Obama at &#8211; <a href="http://www.tvotw.com/0246_7Dec2008.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.tvotw.com/0246_7Dec2008.htm</a></p>
<p>Email and ask everyone to support The Global Fund at &#8211; <a href="http://www.theglobalfundforpeacejusticeanddevelopment.net/PJD_Relevance.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.theglobalfundforpeacejusticeanddevelopment.net/PJD_Relevance.htm</a></p>
<p>The BBC conspiracy is at &#8211; <a href="http://www.tvotw.com/0208_23Feb2006.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.tvotw.com/0208_23Feb2006.htm</a></p>
<p>Any other questions &#8211; email to &#8211; <a href="mailto:claytonw.wentworth@tvotw.com">claytonw.wentworth@tvotw.com</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5421542', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: EugeneDebs</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 22:55:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uidiot Says: 

You are bored with US. You are so stupid you must be left over from the original primordial stupid. Your posts are nothing but a waste of life to read. I have an IQ that puts your sad little pea brain in the toilet as does everyone with a triple digit IQ. Dryer lint is smarter than you. You WISH you had my career. Your ignorant attempts at mind reading out you as an UberMoron. You dont know what I do for a living nor how lazy I am only that I have time to spare and entertain myself this way, the same way YOU are entertaining YOURSELF. It isnt my fault that YOUR career asking if they want fries with that takes up so much or your time so you can afford the rent on your mommys basement. See how easy it is to just pull stupid assumptions about someone out of ones lower torso? My GOD you are ignorant. It must suck to be as stupid as you. I suggest you give up on any dream of higher brain function but you MIGHT take a shot at recognizing it one day you imbecilic cretin.</description>
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<p>You are bored with US. You are so stupid you must be left over from the original primordial stupid. Your posts are nothing but a waste of life to read. I have an IQ that puts your sad little pea brain in the toilet as does everyone with a triple digit IQ. Dryer lint is smarter than you. You WISH you had my career. Your ignorant attempts at mind reading out you as an UberMoron. You dont know what I do for a living nor how lazy I am only that I have time to spare and entertain myself this way, the same way YOU are entertaining YOURSELF. It isnt my fault that YOUR career asking if they want fries with that takes up so much or your time so you can afford the rent on your mommys basement. See how easy it is to just pull stupid assumptions about someone out of ones lower torso? My GOD you are ignorant. It must suck to be as stupid as you. I suggest you give up on any dream of higher brain function but you MIGHT take a shot at recognizing it one day you imbecilic cretin.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5421524', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 22:21:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How many times did Bush, Rice and Perino publicly say, &quot;We don&#039;t torture.&quot;? Such lying liars...Chances are, Helen Thomas would have asked him about this at the presser today.  What a great send-off that would have been!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How many times did Bush, Rice and Perino publicly say, &#8220;We don&#8217;t torture.&#8221;? Such lying liars&#8230;Chances are, Helen Thomas would have asked him about this at the presser today.  What a great send-off that would have been!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5421428', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Uidiot</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 21:37:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>EugeneDebs Says: &amp; ysoserious Says

Both of you are complete tools. Do either of you have any type of real education or careers... you know a JOB to go to? You guys are lazy asses that spend way too much time fighting on the computer. Quite frankly, I am completely bored with both of you, GET A LIFE. When you can come up with something intelligent to say and a source to reference and back your statements up, we might just have some interest in what your ill-faded attempts of intelligent conversation is all about!! Until then, try to find a publisher. I hear that children fiction books are very popular. It sounds to me that every problem you both have ever come across is someone else’s fault, perhaps the government. I didn&#039;t realize you were both married, divorce each other and move on with your pathetic lives.</description>
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<p>Both of you are complete tools. Do either of you have any type of real education or careers&#8230; you know a JOB to go to? You guys are lazy asses that spend way too much time fighting on the computer. Quite frankly, I am completely bored with both of you, GET A LIFE. When you can come up with something intelligent to say and a source to reference and back your statements up, we might just have some interest in what your ill-faded attempts of intelligent conversation is all about!! Until then, try to find a publisher. I hear that children fiction books are very popular. It sounds to me that every problem you both have ever come across is someone else’s fault, perhaps the government. I didn&#8217;t realize you were both married, divorce each other and move on with your pathetic lives.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=5421304', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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